Xbench 1.1 is now available. Optimized for the PowerMac G5.

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Link: Xbench 1.1 is now available. Optimized for the PowerMac G5. (http://www.xbench.com)

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[P-Worm]

Excellent. Maybe now we can see some benchmarks that are a little closer to the truth...

P-Worm

[bobindashadows]

The new version gives my Quicksilver 867 (single) 512MB

4 less Gigaflops on Altivec.
AAnd this vecLib FFT (I think thats it) I get a 20 on it.... not cool.

[MrMacMan]

Its weird... I thought I posted in this thread... hmmm well my post from the other thread really says what I want:

Originally posted by MrMacman
Is it me or do you guys think there should be 2 benchmarks:

Optomized for the G5 And
Not Optimized for the G5.

Look, right now most products are *not* optomized for the G5, so optomizing benchmarking is almost pointless.

Its giving the advantage to the G5 almost un-fairly.

You must expect they don't optomize to have a fair benchmark.

Anyone else think my idea is correct?

Your gonna have Photoshop all optomized soon enough, now xBench is optomized, you know what, when we have a non-optomized app your not gonna get the preformance your thinking of.

[P-Worm]

Originally posted by MrMacman
Its weird... I thought I posted in this thread... hmmm well my post from the other thread really says what I want:



Anyone else think my idea is correct?

Your gonna have Photoshop all optomized soon enough, now xBench is optomized, you know what, when we have a non-optomized app your not gonna get the preformance your thinking of.

Well, You're always going to have benchmarks different for different apps. I think that having two versions of xBench is a fine idea, but just having one that is optimized for the G5 is better than having just one that isn't. Apps are going the 64 bit route (if needed) so I think that the new xBench is just fine.

P-Worm

[Chaszmyr]

Originally posted by MrMacman
Anyone else think my idea is correct?

Your gonna have Photoshop all optomized soon enough, now xBench is optomized, you know what, when we have a non-optomized app your not gonna get the preformance your thinking of.

Well the thing is benchmarks are optimized for other processors, so to have a truly fair competition it needs to be optimized for the G5 too. Xbench 1.0 was optimized for the G4 processor, and when dealing with cross-platform benchmarks they are optimized for the Pentium and Athlon processors

[markiv810]

Guys SteveG56 posted these results on SpyMac forums. The results are as listed below:

Longer is better — scores greater than 200 will be truncated, and have "—>" inside the bar

Name
Score
Detail

Results
126.13

System Info

Xbench Version
1.1

System Version
10.2.7

Physical RAM
1280 MB

Model
PowerMac7,2

Processor
PowerPC 970 @ 1.60 GHz

L1 Cache
64K (instruction), 32K (data)

L2 Cache
512K @ 1600 MHz

Bus Frequency
800 MHz

Video Card
GeForce FX 5200

Drive Type
ST380013AS

CPU Test
91.85

GCD Recursion
72.97
2.85 Mops/sec

Floating Point Basic
213.26—>
758.44 Mflop/sec

AltiVec Basic
78.43
1.14 Gflop/sec

vecLib FFT
51.25
789.76 Mflop/sec

Floating Point Library
264.65—>
10.59 Mops/sec

Thread Test
80.68

Computation
59.27
477.48 Kops/sec, 4 threads

Lock Contention
126.33
1.59 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads

Memory Test
251.00—>

System
199.11

Allocate
327.59—>
110.45 Kalloc/sec

Fill
155.75
1239.80 MB/sec

Copy
178.75
893.76 MB/sec

Stream
339.49—>

Copy
335.86—>
1369.69 MB/sec [G5]

Scale
319.23—>
1326.10 MB/sec [G5]

Add
347.79—>
1467.62 MB/sec [G5]

Triad
357.52—>
1471.49 MB/sec [G5]

Quartz Graphics Test
156.39

Line
174.55
4.44 Klines/sec [50% alpha]

Rectangle
174.20
12.26 Krects/sec [50% alpha]

Circle
175.11
4.04 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]

Bezier
148.88
1.62 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]

Text
123.84
2.02 Kchars/sec

OpenGL Graphics Test
188.62

Spinning Squares
188.62
132.00 frames/sec

User Interface Test
141.20

Elements
141.20
48.04 refresh/sec

Disk Test
105.75

Sequential
114.68

Uncached Write
146.61
58.36 MB/sec [4K blocks]

Uncached Write
138.07
53.89 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Uncached Read
75.75
11.99 MB/sec [4K blocks]

Uncached Read
131.30
53.05 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Random
98.12

Uncached Write
86.38
1.24 MB/sec [4K blocks]

Uncached Write
102.33
23.08 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Uncached Read
95.15
0.63 MB/sec [4K blocks]

Uncached Read
112.26
23.10 MB/sec [256K blocks]

I don't know how the G5 compares to the Dual 1.25 or Dual 1.42, please post your result in comparison.

[Chaszmyr]

Results 122.37
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1
System Version 10.2.6
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Model PowerMac3,6
Processor PowerPC G4x2 @ 1.00 GHz
Version 7455 (Apollo) v2.1
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 256K @ 1000 MHz
L3 Cache 1024K @ 250 MHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card GeForce4 Ti 4600
Drive Type IBM-IC35L080AVVA07-0
CPU Test 124.84
GCD Recursion 124.15 4.85 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 122.76 436.57 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 125.86 1.83 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 125.90 1.94 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 125.61 5.03 Mops/sec
Thread Test 117.85
Computation 119.12 959.65 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 116.61 1.46 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 144.54
System 132.37
Allocate 124.69 42.04 Kalloc/sec
Fill 208.02 1655.87 MB/sec
Copy 101.67 508.35 MB/sec
Stream 159.16
Copy 156.28 637.34 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 158.85 659.86 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 165.90 700.09 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 156.00 642.08 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 121.67
Line 128.69 3.28 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 122.91 8.65 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 134.52 3.10 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 122.85 1.33 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 104.02 1.70 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 116.77
Spinning Squares 116.77 81.72 frames/sec
User Interface Test 95.16
Elements 95.16 32.38 refresh/sec
Disk Test 94.19
Sequential 95.77
Uncached Write 88.05 35.05 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 83.07 32.42 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 155.35 24.59 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 83.80 33.86 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 92.66
Uncached Write 96.10 1.37 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 90.39 20.39 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 95.67 0.63 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 88.93 18.30 MB/sec [256K blocks]

[NavyIntel007]

This xbench version has to be wrong. My Altivec basic went from 4+ GFlops to 1 and some change. Every test is down across the board. I just don't believe that a 1.6 G5 is only going to have 1.75 GFlops Altivec Basic either.

This update didn't work... I imagine there will be a 1.1.1 soon.

[markiv810]

I also felt that the Xbench results were a bit screwed up. I hope that the newer version of Xbench is out before I receive my PowerMac G5, so that I could do some real benchmark tests.

[phc]

Learn how to spell!

O-P-T-I-M-I-Z-E

[bobindashadows]

Originally posted by phc
Learn how to spell!

O-P-T-I-M-I-Z-E

:lol: thank you, I was about to post that myself. Are you on OS X? Turn on spelling as you type in this text field (the "Your Reply:" one).

I don't like this new Xbench, since my quicksilver has a higher CPU rating than the G5. However, my memory test was much, much lower :lol:

There's a serious problem with that Veclib FFT. Some G4's are getting realllllly low (I got a 20), some are getting quite high (see above Dual 1Ghz posted by Chaszmyr), and the G5 is at 50!

[Chaszmyr]

Originally posted by bobindashadows
There's a serious problem with that Veclib FFT. Some G4's are getting realllllly low (I got a 20), some are getting quite high (see above Dual 1Ghz posted by Chaszmyr), and the G5 is at 50!

The first time i ran the new xbench my scores were VERY low, but they were back to normal subsequent times

[garymm]

I've been hearing about extremely erratic results with this program for a while, so I don't know why people keep using it. If you test the same system twice, I've heard you can get very different results. I just don't think it's well-written. we should stick to cinebench, PShop, UT2003, Quake3, that type of professionally coded cross-platform benchmark that doesn't have radically different results every time you run it, or get insanely slower with an update.

[Sun Baked]

Originally posted by Chaszmyr
Results 122.37
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1
System Version 10.2.6
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Model PowerMac3,6
Processor PowerPC G4x2 @ 1.00 GHz
Version 7455 (Apollo) v2.1
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 256K @ 1000 MHz
L3 Cache 1024K @ 250 MHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card GeForce4 Ti 4600
Drive Type IBM-IC35L080AVVA07-0
CPU Test 124.84
GCD Recursion 124.15 4.85 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 122.76 436.57 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 125.86 1.83 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 125.90 1.94 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 125.61 5.03 Mops/sec
Thread Test 117.85
Computation 119.12 959.65 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 116.61 1.46 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 144.54
System 132.37
Allocate 124.69 42.04 Kalloc/sec
Fill 208.02 1655.87 MB/sec
Copy 101.67 508.35 MB/sec
Stream 159.16
Copy 156.28 637.34 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 158.85 659.86 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 165.90 700.09 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 156.00 642.08 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 121.67
Line 128.69 3.28 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 122.91 8.65 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 134.52 3.10 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 122.85 1.33 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 104.02 1.70 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 116.77
Spinning Squares 116.77 81.72 frames/sec
User Interface Test 95.16
Elements 95.16 32.38 refresh/sec
Disk Test 94.19
Sequential 95.77
Uncached Write 88.05 35.05 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 83.07 32.42 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 155.35 24.59 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 83.80 33.86 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 92.66
Uncached Write 96.10 1.37 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 90.39 20.39 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 95.67 0.63 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 88.93 18.30 MB/sec [256K blocks]Now I can read it.;)

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by Sun Baked
Now I can read it.;)

Wow thanks that helped a frikken ton.

:)

[Nermal]

Originally posted by phc
Learn how to spell!

O-P-T-I-M-I-Z-E

*Ahem*

O-P-T-I-M-I-S-E

(for those of you outside the USA) :)

[Gyroscope]

If (insert your app/task here)can be optimised to run on G5 much faster than it ever could on G4, that'd be the real indicator of performance advantage. For me at least.

Personally, I think that benchmarks are rarely anything more than marketing tool for hardware vendors.

[ollywilson2003]

I have got some very odd scores with this program as well, i found that just moving the Xbench app from a folder to my desktop improved my score by 7-10!


P.S. I tried this several times.

[whooleytoo]

Originally posted by Nermal
*Ahem*

O-P-T-I-M-I-S-E

(for those of you outside the USA) :)

Yeah, us non-US Mac users do spell things a little differently, but it's a lot simpler, for example:

iTunes Music Store is spelt as:
N-O-T--Y-E-T--A-V-A-I-L-A-B-L-E

iPhoto Printing Service is spelt:
N-O-T--Y-E-T--A-V-A-I-L-A-B-L-E

Most Sherlock channels are spelt:
N-O-T--Y-E-T--A-V-A-I-L-A-B-L-E

See? Simple to remember! :D