Britney loses custody of her children

[freeny]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/10/01/spears.federline/index.html

Even though she is a train wreck right now and most are sick of seeing her in the press, I cant help but feel sorry for her. Losing your kids is almost as bad as it gets.
Hope she doesnt try something REALLY stupid from this.

[MacNut]

Britney do something stupid....I find that hard to believe.....:rolleyes:

[mactastic]

Sounds like she failed a drug test...

[bartelby]

Britney do something stupid....I find that hard to believe.....:rolleyes:

Oh, something stupid like release another single?:eek:

[MacNut]

Sounds like she failed a drug test...So how is Kevin gonna be any better.:p:rolleyes:

[siurpeeman]

at least the children get to be in custody of a parent. i'm not going to pretend to know what kind of parent kevin federline is, but they can't be in an environment when their mother is constantly on drugs. hopefully, britney will see this as a "rock bottom" moment to turn things around.

[freeny]

Sounds like she failed a drug test...

link?

[Duff-Man]

Duff-Man says....Good. She *shouldn't* have those kids now - she can't even look after herself. I am sick of hearing about her and her daily dramas but as has been said already - perhaps this will be the wake-up call she needs...oh yeah!

[crazycat]

I do not care about her, Paris, OJ and whoever does something stupid in a few weeks. I tried and failed to care less, its all the same thing. Someone does something stupid, they say sorry, they go to rehab stop and repeat.

[Kardashian]

There are children involved. No one needs to make stupid digs about her singing career, or how 'shocking' it would apparently not be if she did something stupid.

Fact is, she has had a very successful career. To amount to the number of record sales she has achieved, as a solo singer and in such little time - she must have, or had, a lot of dedicated fans.

She is clearly very, very troubled. This is a disturbing enough story - from drugs, to binge drinking, head shaving, to drunken sex with strangers - without there being children involved. But there are children invovled.

I believe things just got a whole lot worse for Britney Spears. Shes unpredicatble (according to the media) as it is, and apparently still centre's her life around her children. Now that they're gone? Who knows. She doesn't really have anything to 'put herself back together' for.

She's either going to see this as a turning point, and get back on track for her children, and at this point, equally as important - herself.

Or, she will do something stupid. And not stupid in the sense of another single, or attempting a career comeback. Stupid as in ''..she was so young, and oh so troubled".

With stories coming out about her apparently contemplating suicide, I hope (as a human being, and not necessarily a Britney Spears' fan) that she doesn't attempt anything of the sort, and takes time for herself.

She has enough money to last a life time - she doesn't need a career spotlight. She will always have fame - she is after all Britney Spears. She needs time, time for herself, and her children.

I wish her all the best.

[freeny]

There are children involved. No one needs to make stupid digs about her singing career, or how 'shocking' it would apparently not be if she did something stupid.

Fact is, she has had a very successful career. To amount to the number of record sales she has achieved, as a solo singer and in such little time - she must have, or had, a lot of dedicated fans.

She is clearly very, very troubled. This is a disturbing enough story - from drugs, to binge drinking, head shaving, to drunken sex with strangers - without there being children involved. But there are children invovled.

I believe things just got a whole lot worse for Britney Spears. Shes unpredicatble (according to the media) as it is, and apparently still centre's her life around her children. Now that they're gone? Who knows. She doesn't really have anything to 'put herself back together' for.

She's either going to see this as a turning point, and get back on track for her children, and at this point, equally as important - herself.

Or, she will do something stupid. And not stupid in the sense of another single, or attempting a career comeback. Stupid as in ''..she was so young, and oh so troubled".

With stories coming out about her apparently contemplating suicide, I hope (as a human being, and not necessarily a Britney Spears' fan) that she doesn't attempt anything of the sort, and takes time for herself.

She has enough money to last a life time - she doesn't need a career spotlight. She will always have fame - she is after all Britney Spears. She needs time, time for herself, and her children.

I wish her all the best.
Thank you for "getting" this thread. :)

Her children need her.

[QCassidy352]

Thank you for "getting" this thread. :)

Her children need her.

seconded. Well said, JDT.

[Sun Baked]

Thank you for "getting" this thread. :)

Her children need her.

Her children "need" her to straighten out.

Currently, the way she is seems like she cares more about partying than the kids.

But alas, she is still young enough to be seen as young and stupid. However, the amount of press just makes it look pathetic.

[Kardashian]

However, the amount of press just makes it look pathetic.

The press are pathetic. They really are a bunch of money-hungry, soul-less, pit feeders.

I know they have a buck to earn at the end of the day - but so do the rest of us. We manage to do it with dignity and without wrecking someones life.

Don't get me wrong, Britney's actions have caused havoc. She has behaved in a truly unbelievable way. But the press have made it much, much worse, and transformed her from being someone we pitty, and want to help - to a circus freak, who shaves her head and parades around naked.

How many of us have done stupid things when we're drunk and have friends capture it on a mobile/cell/whatever? I certainly have.

Now imagine your Britney Spears, and your friends sell you out for a quick buck.

Shes conflicted. Shes a youngster. Shes a popstar. Shes rich. Shes a mother. What order these things go in, she's yet to find out.

Her kids need her to straighten out. Luckily, they're at an age where if she gets herself back on track, it shouldn't send them down a route of self destruction and all that horribleness.

[jaydub]

Considering how much money she was paid for the opening of LAX here in Las Vegas, I'd say she's definitely got her head in the wrong place. I think this was bound to happen, and regardless of her reputation, the kids' wellbeing is the most important thing here. She's proven over and over that she's not really trying very hard to be a good mother to them.

[Kardashian]

She's proven over and over that she's not really trying very hard to be a good mother to them.

I'm sorry, but I don't think you, me, or anyone else on this board or any other have the right to say that.

Freedom of speech and all, but it does have its limits.

You have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. Look at how Kevin Federline has treated her? It was this time last year people were shouting how happy they were she finally kicked the scrounging money-grabber out. Now? He's the publics saviour, come to rescue the children.

The media is a joke. She is being portrayed as bad mother because it sells papers, and it fits.

I'm not saying she's a good mother either, but the point of this thread is: Britney has been bad, for one reason or another. Britney has problems. Britney has now lost the one thing she says mattered to her most. Where does she go from here?

It's not about right, wrong, and who's to blame.

[jaydub]

I'm sorry, but I don't think you, me, or anyone else on this board or any other have the right to say that.

Freedom of speech and all, but it does have its limits.

You have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. Look at how Kevin Federline has treated her? It was this time last year people were shouting how happy they were she finally kicked the scrounging money-grabber out. Now? He's the publics saviour, come to rescue the children.

The media is a joke. She is being portrayed as bad mother because it sells papers, and it fits.

I'm not saying she's a good mother either, but the point of this thread is: Britney has been bad, for one reason or another. Britney has problems. Britney has now lost the one thing she says mattered to her most. Where does she go from here?

It's not about right, wrong, and who's to blame.

I don't really care whether I have the right to say anything about it - if she's going to be in the public spotlight (which was her choice) then she's going to have the criticism of the general public coming. I'm going based on my own interpretation of her actions, and nothing else. I don't even read the newspaper or see websites to see what she does now.

Do I have the right to judge her? Probably not. I do, however, have the right to make any comments about her fitness as a mother. I'm obviously not alone in my assessment, otherwise she wouldn't have lost custody.

edit: I don't mean for this to sound abrasive toward you JDT, I apologize if it seems that way. :D

[Kardashian]

I don't really care whether I have the right to say anything about it

Therefore, your adding fuel to the fire. You are being 'the media'.

if she's going to be in the public spotlight (which was her choice)

It is believed her mother spearheaded her daughters domination of the pop world, from an early age. When Britney released her first single, I think it is highly unlikley she had any idea what what fame, or infamy was coming her way. She saw lights, money and dancing.

I'm going based on my own interpretation of her actions, and nothing else.

Interpretations based on what then? Your knowing her? Living with her? Witnessing her? If your not basing your judgements on her as points derived from sources such as the media, what are you basing them on? Guess work, filling in gaps the media has left open?

I'm obviously not alone in my assessment, otherwise she wouldn't have lost custody.
Do you know why your not alone? The millions of web articles, news paper articles and E! News shows which broadcast her every mistake - whether they be fictional, 'hear-say', an ex-employee, or otherwise. Its hard to escape the media attention this girl gets - and subconciously, it affects the way most of us perceive her.

edit: I don't mean for this to sound abrasive toward you JDT, I apologize if it seems that way. :D

I don't mean to sound offensive, either. I'm just direct and to the point. I also find it strikes a nerve with me when the whole world has forced this girl to crumble before their eyes, and now she has, shes getting backlashed for it. We've heard the ''she's this, she's that'' - nows the time for ''oh God, this is serious. She needs help''. Her name does not need to be dragged down further.

[rdowns]

I have no sympathy for her. I feel bad for her kids. Pretty effin sad when Kevin Federline is considered to be the "responsible" parent. Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqtjOn9qVg4&mode=related&search=)

[Kardashian]

I have no sympathy for her. I feel bad for her kids. Pretty effin sad when Kevin Federline is considered to be the "responsible" parent. Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqtjOn9qVg4&mode=related&search=)

That video has absolutely nothing to do with Kevin being responsible, or her being not responsible.

Its been included to add to the comedy show that is the life of Britney Spears, and her children.

If you have no sympathy for her, I don't know what kind of person you are.

All I see is a broken person, not a celebrity with money.

At least on that sort of level, you should have some sort of sympathy or empathy. (I believe, anyway)

PS: If you have sympathy for the kids, try not dragging Mommy's name through the mud. I'm sure thats a small way to better their lives. I think when they're older and they come across all the internet slanging matches toward her, its gonna make incredibly tough reading for them. Slagging her off has got her and her kids nowhere so far. Its time the public tried a different approach.

[Lau]

JDT, I've not always seen eye to eye with you on everything, but your responses in this thread have been spot on. Nicely done, mate.

[jaydub]

Therefore, your adding fuel to the fire. You are being 'the media'.
Though my only interest in commenting on her story is the fact that it's been followed by many for a long time. I think a lot of people predicted her self-destruction, and now she's got to live with the consequences.

It is believed her mother spearheaded her daughters domination of the pop world, from an early age. When Britney released her first single, I think it is highly unlikley she had any idea what what fame, or infamy was coming her way. She saw lights, money and dancing.

That might be true, but the direction her career took in its later stages was under her complete control. She started off as a goody-two-shoes singer, and she exploited herself.

Interpretations based on what then? Your knowing her? Living with her? Witnessing her? If your not basing your judgements on her as points derived from sources such as the media, what are you basing them on? Guess work, filling in gaps the media has left open?
My interpretation is mostly anecdotal, based on what I see on billboards about her appearance at a club opening, only a few short weeks after Kevin Federline went for custody. [/quote]

I don't mean to sound offensive, either. I'm just direct and to the point. I also find it strikes a nerve with me when the whole world has forced this girl to crumble before their eyes, and now she has, shes getting backlashed for it. We've heard the ''she's this, she's that'' - nows the time for ''oh God, this is serious. She needs help''. Her name does not need to be dragged down further.
Perhaps her name doesn't need to be dragged down further, but she also doesn't help matters by continuing her activities in the public spotlight. It's not even a matter of us judging solely on what is published in the rags about her, it's about what she does so publicly. We'd likely have the same commentary about someone who acted like her in public - without the name notariety.

[Prof.]

Does anyone think that Britney's Mom would get custody?

Prof. :apple:

[Cleverboy]

Looks like everybody loses. Nice.

~ CB

[fotografica]

I have no sympathy for her. I feel bad for her kids. Pretty effin sad when Kevin Federline is considered to be the "responsible" parent. Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqtjOn9qVg4&mode=related&search=)

Neither do I..There comes a time in everybody's life when one has to stand in front of the mirror,look into it and take control of your life. People from worse situations,with far less resources available to them,have managed to turn it all around...

[heaven]

Neither do I..There comes a time in everybody's life when one has to stand in front of the mirror,look into it and take control of your life. People from worse situations,with far less resources available to them,have managed to turn it all around...

I second that. She deserves it. I hope the kids will be fine..

[JLatte]

I'm sorry, but I don't think you, me, or anyone else on this board or any other have the right to say that.

...

You have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. Look at how Kevin Federline has treated her? It was this time last year people were shouting how happy they were she finally kicked the scrounging money-grabber out. Now? He's the publics saviour, come to rescue the children.

The media is a joke. She is being portrayed as bad mother because it sells papers, and it fits.



You make decent points, but on the contrary, who are you to think you know everything there is about her? To criticize the media for publicizing her life while at the same time saying that the media makes her look bad... where do you get the grounds that she's not that bad? From the media as well?

Actions show louder than words, Britney isn't getting special court treatment for the kids, they're treating her just as if they'd treat any normal citizen in this type of situation. She clearly has issues, and the last thing she needs is to have her kids learning from her examples as she tries to clean up. When she's cleaned up her life, and there's no dispute that she does need to do that, then she should be able to have her kids back.

[heaven]

OMG! Chris Crocker has probably already started recording a new britney video. :eek: Please no!

If you missed what he did before, here is the link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc)

[Cassie]

I feel sorry for her. To have come down so low...

Every time I walk by a news stand, the front page is always something about Britney.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think I'm going to agree with Chris Crocker.

We need to leave her alone and let her get her life back together.

[Kardashian]

..who are you to think you know everything there is about her? To criticize the media for publicizing her life while at the same time saying that the media makes her look bad... where do you get the grounds that she's not that bad? From the media as well?

Your post seems to just try to contradict everything I have written in mine. Before making a reply like that again, please read my other posts - where I clearly say a few times 'Britney has problems. Britney has done things wrong'. And like I have also said, this post is not about that. This post is about her self destruction in front of the world, and people carrying on making her feel and look worse and worse. No one knows fact from fiction, but if the life of Britney Spears' children was so bad, they would have been taken from her long, long before this.

It's Hollywood - its hard to seperate fact from fiction. The papers aren't going to sell copies showing what a brilliant mother she is, thats more OK or HELLO!'s style. The papers want to tarnish her, dish the 'dirt'. Never once have I seen them print anything positive about her, or even well wishing her.

All I am saying is stop, and listen to where your getting all your information from. Papers, who have slagged who off in the past? Everyone. And how many times have papers printed something one week, to completely reverse their allegations the next? Not only is it Hollywood, but its the media - and mixing the 2, when they often go hand in hand, can have disasterious effects.

Britney has been very, very bad - thats well document from photographs of her out partying. Now its not the partying thats bad, its when she does it (ie: after court hearings). But we don't know whats going on behind closed doors.

Take this an example of what I'm saying. A lot of Britney's ex-staff are writing stories on her, and jumping onto K-Fed's side of the fence. Fair enough, they're doing their part ''because she's causing the children harm". But, when they were on Ms. Spears' payroll and earning God knows how much, where was their concern for the children? Where was their disgust, which is ''turning them to exploit all the lies"? They've suddenly developed good-will characteristics.

Anyway, back to my example. Priness Diana was loved by all. Now, before any of you get on your high horse saying "Don't compare her to Britney - close your mouths, and read my post properly. After her death, her closest aide, Paul Burrel, did the dirty on her, and sold a lot of secrets on her, did TV interviews, wrote books - the whole 9 yards. She was an angel - and nothing like Britney Spears, yet in the name of money and personal gain, even her staff turned their backs on her.

Now, think of it in Britneys case, except, add Hollywood, an already deep interest by the tabloids. It's too easy. It wouldn't surprise me if every account written by her staff in the media was a load of bull****.

Actions show louder than words, Britney isn't getting special court treatment for the kids, they're treating her just as if they'd treat any normal citizen in this type of situation.

Yes, as they should. However, the media aren't.

She is not getting the chance to respond, she's conflicting with herself over what to do, people are leaving her and turning their backs on her in the name of money left, right and centre. Her Husband, who she idolised against the whole worlds' wishes bled her dry and left her, even her own Mother who apparently dispised Kevin has now moved over to his camp. She's completely and utterly broken, in every sense of the word. She's probably on anti-depressents and God only knows what else.

She needs to left alone, no media, nothing. They should see just what its doing to her and her children. She needs a circle of strong, supportive people around her to get better - however long it takes. Writing things that are hear say will only make her go round in circles. The dogs who feed off her name aren't stopping, so why should she bother? No ones noticed that she's trying to improve.

Just because other people have got over things, myself included, we aren't all the same. The point someone made about people who have nothing getting over things is quite possibly the most ridiculous, idiotic thing I have heard in my life. Because she has assistants, money and a nice life.. it should make it easier? Your really have a lot to learn about 'people'.


That might be true, but the direction her career took in its later stages was under her complete control. She started off as a goody-two-shoes singer, and she exploited herself.

Not really. Record companies have a lot of control over their artists. While Britney's has nothing at all over her now - they did. Remember the time when it was ''Her naughty school image has gone - look at her NOW!". Britney Spears', like others, such as Christina Aguilera, had their Teenage Rebellion in front of the camera - at the support of the record companies and tabloids. Why? It made them all money.

As for the last few years where has simply been 'out of the spotlight' (or at least tried). She has had a very troubles personal life. She seems like a very needy person. She chose Kevin Federline to fill that need. And look at what he did. A divorce or bad relationship is bad normally - imagine having your dirty laundry flaunted every day, across billboards, magazines, papers, TV and the internet. I would hate to think how I would cope. I don't think I would.



Perhaps her name doesn't need to be dragged down further, but she also doesn't help matters by continuing her activities in the public spotlight. It's not even a matter of us judging solely on what is published in the rags about her, it's about what she does so publicly.

There is no perhaps about it. It doesn't. End of story.

Continuing her activities in public? So, because of who she is, she's not allowed out to party, because it will wreck the pedestal image we are meant to hold of her? She has gone out at all the wrong times, and last year especially, all the wrong people. But people should have the common sense to see that she's literally breaking down - there is nothing left. She's going crazy.

You don't know anyone who's gone out and got wasted? Drowned their sorrows? She can't go anywhere non public and do this, other than her own home. And if she does that, her Staff are going to write things about her. At least if she goes out and does it, she can't be classed as directly hurting her children. They at least have someone looking after them.

I agree that she shouldn't get into the states she does, or at least as often, in public. But shes young, and lost. I can see it from what I would imagine is her point of view.

She can't go out without being classed as trying to 'createa public display' or exhibit herself - as the press are always after her. They literally chase people. It's their jobs and they do not care - they hunt people down.

[Abstract]

JDT has made many good points, and I agree with most of what s/he has said.


I just wanted to say that we don't really know much about Kevin Federline other than he looks like a d****e-bag. However, this doesn't mean anything in real terms. I don't know him personally, and my only impression is what the tabloid media tells us. If he's the better parent, or possibly, a "great" parent, then I don't have any problem with him having the kids.

[raggedjimmi]

Thank God for that. Those kids are better off elsewhere.

I don't know who this Kevin guy is but going off what the press has reported about her as a person then she sounds very dangerous to keep around such young children.

[Queso]

LEAVE BRITNEY SPEARS ALONE!!! SHE'S NOT WELL RIGHT NOW!!








leave britney alooooonnnnnneeee....



I'm bored of this already :(

;)

[jaydub]

I don't understand why she's made out to sound like the unfortunate pawn of her mother and the record company. :confused: She STILL had the choice about how to live her personal life, and she chose poorly. <forgive the indiana jones line...>

She's got her own personal responsibility in this, and whether the record company or her mother played a role (or not), she's the one who was ultimately responsible for her actions. It's always easier to blame all these peripheral people in her life, but in the end the one who pays the price is her - and she is.

[rdowns]

Oh, poor Britney.

Fake Steve postulates (http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/) that she is bad for the iPhone.

In other news, the Mother of the Year candidate overslept and missed a custody hearing. And we have new pics of her va-jay-jay.

Can't we just leave her alone. :eek:

[chaosbunny]

JDT, you made some very good statements, I agree with some of them.

However, I'm getting sick of the "omg poor star the evil press follows you everywhere" comments. Not only from you, but every time I hear or read this.

After all, the stars chose this career path, worked very hard and had the necessary luck to get there. And they earn an insane amount of money compared to other jobs, that doesn't reflect any of their actual effort, of course there have to be negative aspects. In the end, the media pushed these people to whom they are now, driving a different car every day of the year and bathing in champagne. Britney is just an example that money alone doesn't make you happy, but it certainly doesn't make you unhappy either.

There are thousands of homeless people, mothers with 2 children trying to survive with minimum wage or on social welfare, etc. etc.
Compared to these lives Britneys oh so big trouble seems like a little minor unlucky phase. After all, she has the money to just visit the best therapists on the planet and check into the best rehab clinic, she just needs to get her a** up. Others with no money and similar problems (drugs, depressions, etc.) don't have the luxury to take all the time that's necessary to get back on track.

If you want to pity someone, google Africa for example, but certainly not Britney Spears.

[bartelby]

LEAVE BRITNEY SPEARS ALONE!!! SHE'S NOT WELL RIGHT NOW!!








leave britney alooooonnnnnneeee....



I'm bored of this already :(

;)

Do you post on youtube at all?