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aft
Oct 1, 2007, 08:56 PM
all of my playlists work fine on my iPod touch except for my top 25 most played smartlist. When I look at it on iTunes it looks fine but on my iPod they are completly different songs and they are not songs that are even close to my most played. I tried deleting my old list and creating it over again but it didnt help. Does anyone else have this problem?



SirithX
Oct 1, 2007, 11:58 PM
Hmm, now that you mention it I seem to have the same problem. It's almost as if the iPod isn't recording the play count from iTunes and instead just goes by what you've listened to on it.

haiggy
Oct 2, 2007, 01:09 AM
Yes I have the same problem =(

sundayx
Oct 2, 2007, 01:49 AM
I don't have a problem with 'recently played' but I do have a playlist (album specific) that doesn't seem to play on the touch at all.

aft
Oct 2, 2007, 07:58 AM
Well at least I'm not the only one. I wonder if anyone knows the cause or how to fix it. I haven't found anything about it on any other threads or in other forums:( Seems like it would be an easy fix as long as Apple actually knows about it.

haiggy
Oct 2, 2007, 12:10 PM
Yeah, my Smart Playlist for my iPod nano works fine on the touch.... it uses play counts to sort. However my "Recently Added" playlist syncs like 48 songs from a random album (when it is set to be 50 songs in the list) and sorted by date... ? :S

nouras
Oct 3, 2007, 05:46 AM
Yup it's effed for me as well.. It's annoying that whenever i add songs it doesnt show up in my recently added smart playlist and doesnt show my recently played either.. Does it matter if you manually manage music or sync? I find myself having to click sync a new times sometimes in order for some changes to take effect. Eg, once i changed a video from a movie to music vid it didnt register just like that. I had to sync it several times before the touch got it into its head.. Am i alone with this?

aft
Oct 3, 2007, 08:14 AM
Yup it's effed for me as well.. It's annoying that whenever i add songs it doesnt show up in my recently added smart playlist and doesnt show my recently played either.. Does it matter if you manually manage music or sync? I find myself having to click sync a new times sometimes in order for some changes to take effect. Eg, once i changed a video from a movie to music vid it didnt register just like that. I had to sync it several times before the touch got it into its head.. Am i alone with this?

i didnt have an issue with this once i applied changes it automatically synced everthing that I told it to.

RumMunkey
Oct 3, 2007, 08:23 AM
I've read in other threads that there might be a problem with iPod syncing ratings and play counts (from the iPod back to the computer) on the new nano, classic and touch.

I have this happening:

I have a smart playlist that is supposed to randomly pick 10 tracks from a certain collection (old radio shows if you must know) "with a playcount <1" (thus I don't get re-runs).

It's stopped doing this now because my iPod touch isn't telling iTunes when the playcount changes from 0 to 1.

joefinan
Oct 5, 2007, 07:12 AM
I have an smart playlist called 'Chart' - 200 most-played tracks in descending order. That playlist on my Touch has 200 seemingly random tracks which don't even appear in the original 'Chart' playlist.

My old Nano had no problem so why is this newer £250 iPod?? It's really very rubbish.

joxer
Oct 5, 2007, 08:50 AM
I'm guessing these are teething pains. The old ipods had a dedicated software written explicitly for their limited hardware. Now we have a slimmed down OS X, and they're writing all the code all over again for managing all this stuff as just one program under a real operating system. Hopefully in the end this means that stuff is easier to fix, and there's definitely more features and room for adding more (if Apple doesn't continue to sell us the old 'it's just an ipod' line and refuse to add new apps or allow 3rd party real apps).

bobbylove
Oct 8, 2007, 01:54 AM
I'm having a similar problem with my iPod touch. I have a smart playlist which lists tunes by most recently added. The touch seems to begin syncing the playlist at a random point (about 800 down the list). Annoyingly the songs ARE on my iPod touch if I search for them under artist, album or song, but the playlist is screwed. I'm going back to my 2 gig Nano until this is fixed. Very disappointing.

bobbylove
Oct 8, 2007, 05:22 PM
...mentioned on this thread is not much of a solution. Yes you can show the playlist in the right order if you reverse the criteria (ie LEAST recently added when you actually require MOST recently added). However... That doesn't stop iTunes copying ALL of the LEAST recently added files to the ipod touch regardless, thus taking up valuable space. So, all-in-all, a very unsatisfying workaround for a (so-far) very unsatisfying product. C'mon Apple. Don't make me come down there.

aft
Oct 8, 2007, 08:53 PM
...mentioned on this thread is not much of a solution. Yes you can show the playlist in the right order if you reverse the criteria (ie LEAST recently added when you actually require MOST recently added). However... That doesn't stop iTunes copying ALL of the LEAST recently added files to the ipod touch regardless, thus taking up valuable space. So, all-in-all, a very unsatisfying workaround for a (so-far) very unsatisfying product. C'mon Apple. Don't make me come down there.

thanks for the workaround, I guess it will work for now but i hope they fix this. Although since posting this thread there has been another similar thread posted and some users said that this is an issue with the iphone too and has been since the release.

cawiddis
Oct 12, 2007, 03:26 PM
I have a 2nd Gen Nano, with 1.1.3 on it. Just did a restore on it, and now I'm syncing only a single smart playlist. It is set to limit the playlist to 3GB, and not played in last 2 weeks. iTunes shows the playlist fine... 318 songs & 3GB exactly.

On the Nano though, it results in only 219 songs & 1.6GB. Deleting, recreating, different settings etc.. all result in no more than 220'ish & 1.5GB. If I create a 2nd 3GB playlist, it can also copy over... so it does get close to 4GB.

Sounds like Houston has a problem with their smart playlists!

cw

Wyvernspirit
Oct 14, 2007, 09:36 AM
I have this very same issue, which I noticed yesterday for the first time. I was looking at my top 50 on my iPhone, and the very first song on the list shouldn't even be on the device. So I was playing with it today, and the Playlist only seems to work is when it is the only playlist on my iPhone (I deleted everything and added each playlist, one at a time). All my other playlists (smart or not) seem to work fine. I will play with this some more.

Guess I should submit a bug report. :rolleyes:

SirithX
Oct 14, 2007, 09:59 AM
I haven't tried reversing it as a workaround, what I've been doing instead is just creating a new regular playlist with my top 25 songs which syncs fine since it isn't a smart playlist. I just have to keep it updated whenever my top 25 changes.

Wyvernspirit
Oct 14, 2007, 09:42 PM
I found a work around on the Apple Support Discussions (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5055079�) section.



There is a bug (do a search for smart playlist in this forum) with smart playlists not displaying the correct songs on the iPhone.

I just tried something that seems to have worked...

I have a playlist in iTunes called "Recently Added" which I want to keep synced with my iPhone.

I created a new smart playlist called "Recently Added (iPhone)". The playlist has one rule: "Playlist is Recently Added" with live updating checked.

I now sync this second playlist with the iPhone and all the correct songs show up in it.



Hope that will help people who are having this issue.

This seems to be working for me, so I will continue for the time being.

iwantatouch
Nov 5, 2007, 11:35 AM
I quickly skimmed the posts so I'm sorry if someone already said this, but I have been having trouble with my touch's smart playlist- my "80 most recently added" playlist works great in itunes but syncs completely different songs to the playlist on my touch. I tried a bunch of things but here's what worked:

I changed the smart criteria from "most recently added" to "least recently added." The playlist on itunes now showed my oldest songs (as it should've) BUT when I synced to my ipod touch: Suddenly it showed my MOST recently added songs. Talk about a bizarre bug.

I love my touch but safari and coverflow crash and music randomly stops playing. I hope these are bug they can work out.

Wyvernspirit
Nov 5, 2007, 01:04 PM
I quickly skimmed the posts so I'm sorry if someone already said this, but I have been having trouble with my touch's smart playlist- my "80 most recently added" playlist works great in itunes but syncs completely different songs to the playlist on my touch. I tried a bunch of things but here's what worked:

I changed the smart criteria from "most recently added" to "least recently added." The playlist on itunes now showed my oldest songs (as it should've) BUT when I synced to my ipod touch: Suddenly it showed my MOST recently added songs. Talk about a bizarre bug.

I love my touch but safari and coverflow crash and music randomly stops playing. I hope these are bug they can work out.

Read my post above yours:

I found a work around on the Apple Support Discussions (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5055079�) section.



There is a bug (do a search for smart playlist in this forum) with smart playlists not displaying the correct songs on the iPhone.

I just tried something that seems to have worked...

I have a playlist in iTunes called "Recently Added" which I want to keep synced with my iPhone.

I created a new smart playlist called "Recently Added (iPhone)". The playlist has one rule: "Playlist is Recently Added" with live updating checked.

I now sync this second playlist with the iPhone and all the correct songs show up in it.


Hope that will help people who are having this issue.

This seems to be working for me, so I will continue for the time being.

Hope that helps, it does seem to be a known issue.

LordEntropy
Nov 14, 2007, 07:19 AM
So can anyone confirm if the smart playlist situation has improved any with 1.1.2?? :)

cammonro
Dec 1, 2009, 01:37 PM
One thing I've noticed - some of my smart playlists we're not showing in my sync menu because I was saying "Media Kind *is not* Movie". Apparently *is not* anything doesn't work. Changing this to "Media Kind *is* Music" made my playlists appear in the sync menu. Go figure.

splorp
Mar 4, 2010, 12:16 PM
I ran into this exact same issue with my first generation iPod touch (3.1.3)

If adding a “Media Kind *is* Music” rule does not help get your Smart Playlists syncing again, try adding a “Playlist *is* Music” rule as well.

Cheers.

dgeorge4vt
May 4, 2010, 12:22 AM
If you uncheck the 'live updating' box in the smart playlist settings for "Recently Added" it will fix the reversed order that is created when it syncs to your ipod touch or iphone

Gandalf.Fix
May 28, 2010, 11:36 PM
Add a new rule to your smart playlists. "Playlist is Music" I found this on a discussion board, it didn't work for podcasts but it worked for all my playlists :)