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mcnaugha
Oct 17, 2007, 05:17 AM
I have to be pedantic but the correct phrase, in the Software Industry, is "Golden Master" not "Gold Master". The latter is the term used in the music recording industry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_master

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_master



pilotError
Oct 17, 2007, 08:10 AM
Wasn't that a Jet Li movie ;) :p

liketom
Oct 17, 2007, 08:12 AM
nope eddie murphy "The Golden Child";)

arn
Oct 17, 2007, 10:39 AM
I have to be pedantic but the correct phrase, in the Software Industry, is "Golden Master" not "Gold Master". The latter is the term used in the music recording industry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_master

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_master


Apple used the term "Gold Master" in the past

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2001/mar/07macosx_gm.html

arn

liketom
Oct 17, 2007, 10:42 AM
Apple used the term "Gold Master" in the past

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2001/mar/07macosx_gm.html

arn

wow all the way back to 2001 to proove that point:eek:

keen eye Arn :cool:

dernhelm
Oct 17, 2007, 08:20 PM
wow all the way back to 2001 to proove that point:eek:

keen eye Arn :cool:

That made me smile too. I've been in the software industry longer than I care to remember, and I've heard both terms used inter-changably. This was most probably the stupidest rant I've ever seen here. And I've been here a while as well... :D

RedTomato
Oct 17, 2007, 09:33 PM
This can mean only one thing...

GOOGLE FIGHT!!!!!!!


Apple Golden Master : 2,130,000 hits

Apple Gold Master : 2,200,000 hits


GOLD MASTER WINS !@!!!@£!!

(by a mere 70,000 hits or 3% lead)

For extra winnage, Apple Gold Master also returns you a top link to "Martini Gold Sour Apple Mix" - the champion's drink of choice obviously.

xx RedTomato sippin' a martini Gold (shaken not stirred)

IDANNY
Oct 18, 2007, 05:10 AM
This can mean only one thing...

GOOGLE FIGHT!!!!!!!


Apple Golden Master : 2,130,000 hits

Apple Gold Master : 2,200,000 hits


GOLD MASTER WINS !@!!!@£!!

(by a mere 70,000 hits or 3% lead)

For extra winnage, Apple Gold Master also returns you a top link to "Martini Gold Sour Apple Mix" - the champion's drink of choice obviously.

xx RedTomato sippin' a martini Gold (shaken not stirred)
haha that was great

twoodcc
Oct 18, 2007, 08:46 AM
really, is this that big of a deal?

MacRy
Oct 18, 2007, 09:17 AM
Geek fight! :D

BKKbill
Oct 18, 2007, 09:44 AM
Well I think this is all that has to be said:

pedantic:
1. Like a pedant, overly concerned with formal rules and trivial points of learning.
2. Being showy of one’s knowledge, often in a boring manner.
3. Often used to describe a person who emphasizes his/her knowledge through the use of vocabulary; ostentatious in one’s learning.
4. Being finicky or picky with language.

Although I'm surprised arn got into this one.

raptor96
Oct 18, 2007, 12:45 PM
Well I think this is all that has to be said:

pedantic:
1. Like a pedant, overly concerned with formal rules and trivial points of learning.
2. Being showy of one’s knowledge, often in a boring manner.
3. Often used to describe a person who emphasizes his/her knowledge through the use of vocabulary; ostentatious in one’s learning.
4. Being finicky or picky with language.

Although I'm surprised arn got into this one.

Hehe, best response. I was hoping someone would say this.

chaos86
Oct 18, 2007, 09:11 PM
Think differently

mcnaugha
Oct 22, 2007, 11:22 AM
Apple used the term "Gold Master" in the past

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2001/mar/07macosx_gm.html

arn

Because an Apple PR used it? lol. Dear lord. Have you ever met one of the people that write these things? lol.

I've been working with Apple engineering since the mid-90s. They're the ones that make the stuff and have always used the term Golden Master.

In any case, a Gold Master is a physical object and Golden Master is a version... that PR could very well have referred to a physical disc that was sent to manufacturing as that's how it was done back then. Nowadays it's a data file that goes to manufacturing.

Hits are pointless because it just shows how many people made the mistake. These things spread like wildfire. Wikipedia says it all for me. If you can't accept that then more fool you.

calculus
Oct 22, 2007, 11:27 AM
These things spread like wildfire.

Oh no! The sky is falling...

Gasu E.
Oct 22, 2007, 02:22 PM
xx RedTomato sippin' a martini Gold (shaken not stirred)

Gold Master, wasn't he the man, the man with the Midas touch? A spider's touch...

nbs2
Oct 22, 2007, 02:25 PM
Because an Apple PR used it? lol. Dear lord. Have you ever met one of the people that write these things? lol.

<snip the pedantic stuff?

Hits are pointless because it just shows how many people made the mistake. These things spread like wildfire. Wikipedia says it all for me. If you can't accept that then more fool you.

Wikipedia as an authoritative source? Especially over an official publication? Wow.

kwood
Oct 22, 2007, 03:02 PM
Wikipedia as an authoritative source? Especially over an official publication? Wow.

I Agree, Authoritative my foot! When anyone can register and edit any wikipedia article it looses all validity. No university or college professor will accept an essay or assignment that references wikipedia for this reason (unless the essay is on wikipedia or relevant). Wikipedia is not a trust worthy source.

xUKHCx
Oct 22, 2007, 03:04 PM
Authoritative my foot! When anyone can register and edit any wikipedia article it looses all validity. No university or college professor will accept an essay or assignment that references wikipedia for this reason (unless the essay is on wikipedia or relevant). Wikipedia is not a trust worthy source.

Think you should re-read the post.

WildCowboy
Oct 22, 2007, 03:06 PM
Wikipedia as an authoritative source? Especially over an official publication? Wow.

And it now cites "gold master" as an alternative term. So which version of the Wikipedia article should we point to as being "authoritative?" ;)

OttawaGuy
Oct 22, 2007, 03:08 PM
http://www.micahwright.com/downloads/shadow/Shadow350501.jpg

:)

kwood
Oct 22, 2007, 03:55 PM
Think you should re-read the post.

Whoops, I re-read it and realized I left out the "I agree" part. It sounded right in my head as I do agree with nbs2.

***lays down to take nap so hopefully I can think coherently***

mcnaugha
Oct 30, 2007, 06:18 PM
Ok ok... I give in... Wikipedia is corruptable sadly.

I don't think this is though:

http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn1132.html

My colleagues at :apple: Engineering reminded me of this official document, written in April 1988, describing Apple's software versioning system.

I also confirmed the 2001 press release did indeed refer to a gold CD which was sent to the factory for duplication. That's how they did it back then. It was never intended to refer to the version/build number.

Note that marketing grads that write PRs probably haven't even met a software engineer. What they write shouldn't be taken as official documentation. As engineering write the technotes I don't need to say anymore.

For those who didn't realise, the term pedantic was self-deprecating irony and hence not supposed to be responded to. I didn't claim this was a matter of world importance... I just wanted to help the accuracy of the journalism on this site and others like it. A journalist is nothing if he can't check his facts. MacRumors could have been a shining beacon of accuracy.

mac 2005
Oct 30, 2007, 08:37 PM
Apple used the term "Gold Master" in the past

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2001/mar/07macosx_gm.html

arn

What's interesting is that the cost remains $129. Talk about a deal. Six years and who knows how many dollars invested in development, and the price remains the same.

Thanks, Apple! :apple:

AppleMatt
Oct 31, 2007, 05:52 AM
Strange. I wonder how people would have responded if the OP had written 'Ipod' or "where's the Itunes icon on my MAC?"

AppleMatt

Cleverboy
Oct 31, 2007, 06:49 AM
wow all the way back to 2001 to proove that point:eek:
keen eye Arn :cool:

Or quick & exacting Google fingers.
http://www.google.com/search?q=&#37;22gold+master%22+site%3Aapple.com

One can also apply this to...
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22gold+master%22+site%3Amicrosoft.com

Or even...
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22gold+master%22+site%3Aadobe.com

I think etymology is such a creepy bizarre field of study. :)

~ CB