What's the point of Jailbreak if you can't access half the apps w/o WiFi.

[duelingdragons]

I mean, say you're on a road trip and you want to use Google Maps to find something.

It's not like I can take the iPod Touch out and open up Google Maps.

Sure, all these apps are cool, but unless you have access to a wifi network 24/7, what's the point?

I'm not gonna need Google Maps from my house, or check email at work when I'm already on a machine all day.

[speakerwizard]

whats the point in this post

[duelingdragons]

whats the point in this post

I'm just saying, I don't get all the hype when you can't really do anything on the go anyway.

I'd love to have Google Maps at my disposal in my car on my way somewhere, but without wifi, it's pointless to even have the app on there.

[baummer]

I mean, say you're on a road trip and you want to use Google Maps to find something.

It's not like I can take the iPod Touch out and open up Google Maps.

Sure, all these apps are cool, but unless you have access to a wifi network 24/7, what's the point?

I'm not gonna need Google Maps from my house, or check email at work when I'm already on a machine all day.

Well, considering that jailbreaking assumes you will be using those apps with WiFi access, as you need WiFi access to perform the jailbreak, then I don't see the issue. The Touch was never intended by Apple to have apps placed on it, at least not yet. It is assumed that to use the mobile functions that require the internet, you'd be in an area with WiFi access.

[baummer]

I'm just saying, I don't get all the hype when you can't really do anything on the go anyway.

I'd love to have Google Maps at my disposal in my car on my way somewhere, but without wifi, it's pointless to even have the app on there.

It's not pointless. The app requires WiFi to be used. Only apps that don't need the internet are the Music, Video, Calc, and Note apps. Basically the default apps except for Mobile Safari. You should have known this purchasing the device, as it has no way of accessing Google Maps or other similar programs without WiFi access.

[triela]

What's the point of Jailbreak if you can't access half the apps w/o WiFi

...the other half of the apps you can access without Wi-Fi?

Editable Calendar, Notes, Games, Web Application/Development Script Support, File Management, Interface Customization, eBook Reader, etc.

Maybe there's no point for you because of your specific desires, but that doesn't make the Jailbreak pointless outright.

[duelingdragons]

Well, considering that jailbreaking assumes you will be using those apps with WiFi access, as you need WiFi access to perform the jailbreak, then I don't see the issue. The Touch was never intended by Apple to have apps placed on it, at least not yet. It is assumed that to use the mobile functions that require the internet, you'd be in an area with WiFi access.

I understand the philosophy, but I don't really understand why there's so much hype over apps like Google Maps and Email, when unless you're in range of a wifi network, you can't use them.

I mean, what's the point of checking e-mail on your iPod Touch, when under the same wi-fi signal, you can just log on to your email on a laptop.

I just don't get it. Don't get me wrong, I think its awesome that we have the ability to install programs, but its just really pointless, at least for me.

[BII]

I tethered my iPt to my tmo dash, so there very much is a point to jailbreaking.;)

[kyc]

I understand the philosophy, but I don't really understand why there's so much hype over apps like Google Maps and Email, when unless you're in range of a wifi network, you can't use them.

I mean, what's the point of checking e-mail on your iPod Touch, when under the same wi-fi signal, you can just log on to your email on a laptop.

I just don't get it. Don't get me wrong, I think its awesome that we have the ability to install programs, but its just really pointless, at least for me.

Not everyone carries their laptop with them everywhere they go. The touch slips right in your pocket and you can hop into almost every coffee store and use their wi-fi when you are outside.

[SirithX]

Well, if you live in a place where wi-fi isn't too prevalent, I can see how you aren't reaping the benefits of the jailbreak as much as others. Personally I live on a university campus, and the Touch is very helpful if I want to find any places nearby for food or whatever, or look up movie times, or check my mail or anything. Even outside campus, my city also has a few free wi-fi hotspots spread out for anyone who needs it. I was stopped at a red light once and to my surprise my Touch had a wi-fi connection, and I was able to load up Google to amuse myself before the light turned green.

[gloss]

I find Maps useful because it keeps listed directions available until a new set of directions is calculated, so I can look up a route at home/work/wherever and not bother having to print out instructions to lose.

Also, should I ever get lost, I need only find a wifi hotspot to recalculate directions.

[macchappy]

Doesn't maps keep directions in cache? I mean, If you did a search for directions for a cross-country trip, I think the start and end points would have the images. AFAIK, the rest wouldn't, but the instructions are still there.

[Tmchenry2010]

If you think jailbreaking your ipt is usless then just dont do it.

[BII]

I understand the philosophy, but I don't really understand why there's so much hype over apps like Google Maps and Email, when unless you're in range of a wifi network, you can't use them.

I mean, what's the point of checking e-mail on your iPod Touch, when under the same wi-fi signal, you can just log on to your email on a laptop.

I just don't get it. Don't get me wrong, I think its awesome that we have the ability to install programs, but its just really pointless, at least for me.

It is far more convienent to check mail on a handheld than to pull out the Lappy, but hey whatever works for you.

[Rhosfelt]

I mean, say you're on a road trip and you want to use Google Maps to find something.

It's not like I can take the iPod Touch out and open up Google Maps.

Sure, all these apps are cool, but unless you have access to a wifi network 24/7, what's the point?

I'm not gonna need Google Maps from my house, or check email at work when I'm already on a machine all day.

What you are saying is equivalent to why put Safari and iTMS on the iPod b/c you may not be around WiFi all the time. And if you do have wifi there is always a computer according to you, so why did you buy it at all?

[Barnard]

Doesn't maps keep directions in cache? I mean, If you did a search for directions for a cross-country trip, I think the start and end points would have the images. AFAIK, the rest wouldn't, but the instructions are still there.

If you flick through every step of the directions, the iPod caches a picture of every step.

I'm finding the ability to compose emails offline, on the bus or tube, and then send them when in range an absolutely brilliant.

[dairymandip]

i love my touch im waiting for the bus and scanning and picking up wifi all over the place

in stores in malls, on the street

[Dublo7]

What about weDict?
Portable Encyclopedia + Dictionary = Awesome. Probably my favourite app on the Touch/iPhone so far.

[savar]

I'm just saying, I don't get all the hype when you can't really do anything on the go anyway.

I'd love to have Google Maps at my disposal in my car on my way somewhere, but without wifi, it's pointless to even have the app on there.

Then you should have bought an iPhone...I don't see the point of your question.

[savar]

I tethered my iPt to my tmo dash, so there very much is a point to jailbreaking.;)

How did you do that?? That would be a huge upgrade to my ipod touch.

[uburoibob]

I mean, say you're on a road trip and you want to use Google Maps to find something.

It's not like I can take the iPod Touch out and open up Google Maps.

Sure, all these apps are cool, but unless you have access to a wifi network 24/7, what's the point?

I'm not gonna need Google Maps from my house, or check email at work when I'm already on a machine all day.


Just carry an AirportExpress in your other pocket and you'll always have WiFi.:p

[Bittermormon]

How did you do that?? That would be a huge upgrade to my ipod touch.

See Here (http://forums.thoughtsmedia.com/showthread.php?p=125309). These aren't my instructions, but they work!

Woohoo 1st post here

[owen-b]

Here in the UK unless you live or work in the centre of London there's really bugger all free WiFi to be had, so I'm in the same boat. Impressed with Arux for creating the iJailbreak but now I've done it I'm just even more wound up that I can barely ever make any use whatsoever of the apps. No way I'd get an iPhone though - tariff is stupidly poor value and I don't relish wearing out the battery on my phone every day. My Blackberry lives for days on end.

Ho hum.

I'll just wait till Apple put the editable iCal back on there and then not bother re-jailbreaking, pretty pointless for me.

[yacoub]

Free wi-fi and wi-fi hotspots are becoming increasingly prevalent. This will only increase the usefulness of the touch when out-and-about.

I already use it at home, work, restaurants, and even at a hotel business conference where I used it to get some work done on a web-based application!

That said, the only games that are worthwhile are ones that are actually native apps on the touch and don't require being online. That way you can play them anywhere, just like listening to music or watching movies on it.

[Tymmz]

At least in the UK it makes much sense with The Cloud offering unlimited WiFi for iPod Touch users for 3.99.

LINK (http://www.thecloud.net/page/3653)

[DAP1MP13]

No offense or anything but....
I think it's pretty ignorant of you to say all this is pointless.
You must understand everyone is in different situations.

I live in NYC and there is wifi pretty much EVERYWHERE, literally....
You get access to wifi almost anywhere you go in the city, except the subway of course, lol....

[owen-b]

No offense or anything but....
I think it's pretty ignorant of you to say all this is pointless.
You must understand everyone is in different situations.

I live in NYC and there is wifi pretty much EVERYWHERE, literally....
You get access to wifi almost anywhere you go in the city, except the subway of course, lol....

No, what's ignorant would be if the person felt it was pointless for EVERYONE.

Personally, I think it's completely pointless for me, now I've done it, because no matter what anyone says about paying for Cloud WiFi access, or there being WiFi "pretty much everywhere", where I go in London for my work (I'm a TV camera operator and photographer), there is practically NO WiFi access.

Hence, my Blackberry does everything the hacks bring to the touch, and it does it anywhere at all - much like the iPhone but without the ridiculous tariff and danger of killing the battery and being unable to make calls because I've been having fun with the iPod or Maps or whatever. Don't get me wrong, it's deeply cool when you're near a free and open WiFi spot, but totally impractical the rest of the time. Hey ho.

[DAP1MP13]

No, what's ignorant would be if the person felt it was pointless for EVERYONE.

Personally, I think it's completely pointless for me, now I've done it, because no matter what anyone says about paying for Cloud WiFi access, or there being WiFi "pretty much everywhere", where I go in London for my work (I'm a TV camera operator and photographer), there is practically NO WiFi access.

Hence, my Blackberry does everything the hacks bring to the touch, and it does it anywhere at all - much like the iPhone but without the ridiculous tariff and danger of killing the battery and being unable to make calls because I've been having fun with the iPod or Maps or whatever. Don't get me wrong, it's deeply cool when you're near a free and open WiFi spot, but totally impractical the rest of the time. Hey ho.

Didn't I just say in my last post that everyones situation is different.

Also, I don't pay for "cloud" wifi access, nor do any of my friends, I'm not sure if thats what you implied though.
On the street in New York, you can pick up free wifi signals from schools/colleges/universities, hospitals, cafes, museums or anyone who choses to setup an unprotected network.

[owen-b]

Didn't I just say in my last post that everyones situation is different.

Also, I don't pay for "cloud" wifi access, nor do any of my friends, I'm not sure if thats what you implied though.
On the street in New York, you can pick up free wifi signals from schools/colleges/universities, hospitals, cafes, museums or anyone who choses to setup an unprotected network.
Yes you did say that, and I agreed with you by pointing out that not everyone that was saying it was pointless was being so ignorant as to say it was pointless for everyone. Seems more and more like you're being a bit ignorant yourself, dude... ;)

I wasn't implying that you are paying for Cloud. I was referring to the other posters in this thread that are suggesting paying for Cloud.

Also, I'm not in New York. Wonderful for you, though, I'm stoked for you. But I'm not in New York. All subjective, isn't it?

Blackberry that doesn't die within a day, and iPod touch for music and movies, best combo.

WiFi surfing on iPod touch an occasional bonus.

[kinchee87]

Anyway, the point of jailbreak is to gain read-write-modify access to the iPod Touch. Without having wifi access you're left with the ability to customizing the look and feel of the OS (assuming you are by a computer with wifi access) and also installing apps that don't require a wifi connection to work.

[DAP1MP13]

Yes you did say that, and I agreed with you by pointing out that not everyone that was saying it was pointless was being so ignorant as to say it was pointless for everyone. Seems more and more like you're being a bit ignorant yourself, dude... ;)

I wasn't implying that you are paying for Cloud. I was referring to the other posters in this thread that are suggesting paying for Cloud.

Also, I'm not in New York. Wonderful for you, though, I'm stoked for you. But I'm not in New York. All subjective, isn't it?

Blackberry that doesn't die within a day, and iPod touch for music and movies, best combo.

WiFi surfing on iPod touch an occasional bonus.

I agree with most of what you said.

But of course, as you know, not everyone has a blackberry or similar device.
Thats one reason this is so "hyped."
Think of all the people out there who are stuck with their crappy/old cellphones, where you can't check email and browse the web, all you can do is make/receive phone calls.
For those aforementioned people this is probably a little more than just a little "bonus." These are the people that are probably most excited about this.
I'm sure they don't think these hacks are pointless of useless, right? ;)

[owen-b]

Going round in circles now - we both agree that some people will find them useless due to lack of WiFi, others won't...

All I want to know is, is there any simple straightforward way of putting the editable iCal onto my iPod touch without downloading a plist and editing a this and hacking a that and changing a checksum and wazzing a whizzo and hopping a doodah?

;)

[DAP1MP13]

lol, sorry owen-b.... :D