The 1st Dual 2.0GHz Arrives

[MacRumors]

xlr8yourmac.com (http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/index.html#S16078) posts a reader email claiming to have received his Dual 2.0GHz PowerMac. The reader has subsequently sent in photos as well as an Apple System Profile report. Further tests/benchmarks pending.

If true, this would represent one of the first Dual G5 2.0GHz machines to be shipped to an individual.

[Ed note: The G5 photo gallery at the top of Xlr8yourmac.com is unrelated to this story. One at Xlr8yourmac.com, scroll down to "Reader reports his EDU order Dual G5 arrived"]

[freaky57]

I am so pissed I ordered mine right after WWDC and I checked the Apple store today and it has just been pushed back another 21 days!!! AGHHH!
By the way I am offically anoucing my computer company today it's called "NeveRaRive" we are announcing the FASTER COMPUTER IN THE WORLD AT 22GHZ, will be released in 2023.:mad:

[~Shard~]

Originally posted by freaky57
I am so pissed I ordered mine right after WWDC and I checked the Apple store today and it has just been pushed back another 21 days!!! AGHHH!
By the way I am offically anoucing my computer company today it's called "NeveRaRive" we are announcing the FASTER COMPUTER IN THE WORLD AT 22GHZ, will be released in 2023.:mad:

I totally hear you - by the time these things get out to the masses, they WON'T be the fastest computers anymore! I wonder how all the people who have ordered G5s feel being the owners of "virtual computers" right now. ;)

Oh, and the scary thing is, in 2023, a 22GHz machine will no doubt be very slow - I'm sure some sort of "optical psychic computer" will be around by then. And people will still be waiting for their 15" G5 PowerBook updates...

;)

- Shard

[freaky57]

The part that's really bad is that I ordered a 23 cinema display and a the soundsticks with the iSub at the same time as the G5 announcment. I have to use them on my crappy PC untill the Dual G5 Beast is shipped. I also ordered a 30gb iPod at the same time but I finally gave up and sold it it really sucks using musicmatch. The drive is formated for windows so I can't swap with my mac friends. I can't wait to leave the windows world!
The screen sure does rock!:)

[Arcady]

Originally posted by freaky57
The part that's really bad is that I ordered a 23 cinema display and a the soundsticks with the iSub at the same time as the G5 announcment. I have to use them on my crappy PC untill the Dual G5 Beast is shipped.

You have a PC with an ADC port?

[JtheLemur]

I smell bullshiiiiit.

But hey, if not, and this kid really got his, I'm pissssed. All my Edu. Inst. orders (Keynote-day CTOs) got bumped to 9/23. Which, according to my rep, is only 10-15 days, but still - school starts tomorrow. Argh.

[themadchemist]

Originally posted by xlr8yourmac
In other news, the individual who reported to have received her EDU order has been identified. She is a Ms. Jobs.

sorry folks, it's the only explanation I can come up with.

[freaky57]

No... PC's do not have ADC ports! I use my Apple Display with the ADC to DVI converter that Apple sells for 100 bucks. Apple screen are soooo... nice.

[seamuskrat]

I can personally attest to 3 machines at USC that are Dual G5.
They arrived Today and are sitting in the shipping and receiving secure loading dock area. So SOME machines are out there, at least with those affiliated with universities.

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by freaky57
I also ordered a 30gb iPod at the same time but I finally gave up and sold it it really sucks using musicmatch. The drive is formated for windows so I can't swap with my mac friends. I can't wait to leave the windows world!

you realize you can reformat it for the mac, right?


my order (placed last friday) still says on or before 10/14.. which is ok, except that new orders (same exact config) say 3-5 weeks... here's hoping it's the "or before" part. hah

[sonicsessions]

what a joke! my dual was just bumped to 23 Sept from 2 Sept... I just love how Apple waits until after it was supposed to ship, then bumps the shipping date.
I really don't get why this fellow would get his now... I ordered 3 hours after WWDC's keynote, through the Apple Dev Connection as a Student Developer, and yet I got bumped... maybe this guy is masquerading as Virginia Tech or something...

[cb911]

even though i'm not ordering a G5 PowerMac, i still can't wait to see some benchmarks. :D

[Modano]

Where are the pics, then? Why would they say he'd sent pics then not post them?

[TheFish]

look on the bright side, if they are delayed any longer theyll ship with panther

[Mr. G4]

MacBidouille has thishttp://www.macbidouille.com/niouzcontenu.php?date=2003-09-03#6496

[arn]

Originally posted by Mr. G4
MacBidouille has thishttp://www.macbidouille.com/niouzcontenu.php?date=2003-09-03#6496

those are single's :)

arn

[AppleMatt]

Originally posted by Modano
Where are the pics, then? Why would they say he'd sent pics then not post them?

Waste of bandwidth? Hasn't the time? Too low a quality? Preparing a later article?

I believe the report, if Mike thinks it's real I'm happy to take his word.

AppleMatt

[theRebel]

Originally posted by sonicsessions
what a joke! my dual was just bumped to 23 Sept from 2 Sept... I just love how Apple waits until after it was supposed to ship, then bumps the shipping date.
I really don't get why this fellow would get his now... I ordered 3 hours after WWDC's keynote, through the Apple Dev Connection as a Student Developer, and yet I got bumped... maybe this guy is masquerading as Virginia Tech or something...

Did you order a standard config or a BTO config?

Standard configs get shipped faster.

BTW, ordering 3 hours after the keynote probably still puts a few thousand systems ahead of you.

[zer0army]

I think the High res pics of the single G5 are from a different person. The Dual Pics have just not be posted yet

[brucku]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
you realize you can reformat it for the mac, right?



He meant, that it has to be in windows format for him to manage it with musicmatch, but then it is incompatible with his mac friends, but i think he should have kept it until his mac came, then reformatted.

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by brucku
He meant, that it has to be in windows format for him to manage it with musicmatch, but then it is incompatible with his mac friends, but i think he should have kept it until his mac came, then reformatted.

ahh. well i say screw the friend. hah

and i'm pretty sure macs can't work with ipods in windows format, but not the other way around... oh well

[Roller]

Originally posted by zer0army
I think the High res pics of the single G5 are from a different person. The Dual Pics have just not be posted yet

Yes, the pics were taken by someone else. Even though he only has a single processor G5, the images are stunning and well worth a look.

[Magicite]

I just started college and got a job working for the computer department [obviously called something else].

One of the big cheeses has a Dual 2 Ghz G5 sitting on his desk, and he got it / unpacked it yesterday. Supposedly I'm going to be allowed to pet it tomorrow. Yay!

[ImAlwaysRight]

I have a dual 2.0 G5 EDU institutional order placed July 24, was to ship "on or before Oct. 3" and was told this AM it was being built. I noticed online there is a problem with the credit card processing so I will call tomorrow AM to clear that up, but hopefully this will ship tomorrow. I upgraded my shipping to next day, so I should have this by Friday.

This is very sweet as last time Apple announced a new product and I ordered early through EDU store, I learned of retail orders that were placed 2 weeks AFTER my order shipped before mine. So it looks like things have come full circle. :)

[Phil Of Mac]

"On or before September 26" means, "We'll ship it this month, as early as possible. September 26 is the worst case scenario."

At least according to ThinkSecret.

[pjhornak]

http://hardmac.com/niouzcontenu.php?date=2003-09-03#447


Not Duals but some nice pics from hardmac.com


you have to scroll up

[prajnaparamita]

Originally posted by ImAlwaysRight
I have a dual 2.0 G5 EDU institutional order placed July 24, was to ship "on or before Oct. 3" and was told this AM it was being built. I noticed online there is a problem with the credit card processing so I will call tomorrow AM to clear that up, but hopefully this will ship tomorrow. I upgraded my shipping to next day, so I should have this by Friday.

This is very sweet as last time Apple announced a new product and I ordered early through EDU store, I learned of retail orders that were placed 2 weeks AFTER my order shipped before mine. So it looks like things have come full circle. :)

ARE YOU SURE?????
I ordered it the same day and my estimate shipping is 10/3!!
OMG!OMG!OMG!

........No, I shouldn't be too excited. I haven't recieved anything yet. And I know for sure the life isn't that easy.

but still..
OMG! OMG! OMG!

[ledzep37]

Originally posted by ImAlwaysRight
I have a dual 2.0 G5 EDU institutional order placed July 24, was to ship "on or before Oct. 3" and was told this AM it was being built. I noticed online there is a problem with the credit card processing so I will call tomorrow AM to clear that up, but hopefully this will ship tomorrow. I upgraded my shipping to next day, so I should have this by Friday.

This is very sweet as last time Apple announced a new product and I ordered early through EDU store, I learned of retail orders that were placed 2 weeks AFTER my order shipped before mine. So it looks like things have come full circle. :)

Was your order a stock order or a CTO (and if so, what options did you order)?

[ImAlwaysRight]

Originally posted by prajnaparamita
ARE YOU SURE?????
I ordered it the same day and my estimate shipping is 10/3!!
OMG!OMG!OMG!

........No, I shouldn't be too excited. I haven't recieved anything yet. And I know for sure the life isn't that easy. My CC was preauthorized this morning, exactly one month after it was last preauth, so I thought that is all this was. But just to make sure I emailed my sales rep this morning and she confirmed it was being built, but added she did not know when this would ship. I cannot say if this will ship tomorrow, and the web order status page STILL says shipping "on or before 10/3," but at the top instead of saying "open" it says "Action Required: WE ARE UNABLE TO OBTAIN AN AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CREDIT CARD YOU PROVIDED. PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CARD ISSUING BANK." Well, it was a successful preauthorized this morning, so I have a hunch I know what the problem is and will call in the AM to clear it up.Originally posted by ledzep37
Was your order a stock order or a CTO (and if so, what options did you order)? Mine was a CTO, with the changes being Radeon 9800, Combo drive instead of SuperDrive, and no modem.

[yoshi1013]

Right now part of me is thinking "Well, I've practically waited for four years so what's another month and a half?"

But the other part of me is thinking "Dude! I've been waiting for four years, get it to me NOW god dammit!!!"

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by ImAlwaysRight
Mine was a CTO, with the changes being Radeon 9800, Combo drive instead of SuperDrive, and no modem.

What's CTO? I gather it's the same as BTO. Change To Order? Custom To Order? Just wondering.

[gregorypierce]

Continuously Tardy Order

[two_tail]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
What's CTO? I gather it's the same as BTO. Change To Order? Custom To Order? Just wondering.

It stands for "Configure-To-Order", another way of saying "Build-To-Order". However, you certainly could debate over configure-to-order vs. build-to-order for the best term to use.

For CTO you could say that configure-to-order is the best term because all CTO really does is save you the hassle of buying the extra components (more RAM, upgraded video card, etc.). However, once in a while you get something (in this case the built-in Bluetooth option) that requires building on to the motherboard, instead of putting a card in an already-built slot. That would be more along the lines of BTO.

In the end, I think gregorypierce sums it up best when he says that CTO stands for "Continuously Tardy Order", as that certainly seems to be the case.

[prajnaparamita]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
What's CTO? I gather it's the same as BTO. Change To Order? Custom To Order? Just wondering.

Configure To Order, that is..
I've been wondering about it too..
Is it different from BTO, anybody?

[two_tail]

Originally posted by yoshi1013
Right now part of me is thinking "Well, I've practically waited for four years so what's another month and a half?"

Because in that month and a half the value of the G5, both real and imaginary, which is currently being suspended by hype and suspense (among other things), will start to fall, especially as we get closer to the end of the year and the emergence of the 3GHz G5 (be it a 970 or not).

Again, originally posted by yoshi1013
But the other part of me is thinking "Dude! I've been waiting for four years, get it to me NOW god dammit!!!"

I'll agree with this sentiment. Now that the developer dual orders have been pushed back (which was very unexpected, at least over at Mac OS Rumors) along with the others, something is definitely wrong. I confirmed this when I called and found out that there definitely was a problem, but that "the general public" would not be told what it was.

[prajnaparamita]

oops..

It looks sort of dumb that there is the answer right above the question.

Thanks anyway :)

[thatguy_youknow]

Originally posted by freaky57
No... PC's do not have ADC ports! I use my Apple Display with the ADC to DVI converter that Apple sells for 100 bucks. Apple screen are soooo... nice.

No offense but i think this guy is full of s***. The ADC to DVI is only 40 bucks and musicmatch is not that bad if it is all you have. Why make stuff up. :p' :D :p

[ImAlwaysRight]

Originally posted by thatguy_youknow
No offense but i think this guy is full of s***. The ADC to DVI is only 40 bucks and musicmatch is not that bad if it is all you have. Why make stuff up. :p' :D :p Well, freaky57 just made an error and should have said "DVI to ADC adapter" which allows Apple ADC displays to be used on PC's, and those cost $100. The ADC to DVI, to allow a DVI LCD display to be connected to the Mac's ADC port on the video card, that costs $40.

[halabar]

The more I think about it, the more this smells like the 500mhz G4 all over again.

Since Apple stated that it already had 100,000 orders for G5's, by looking at the posts here and elsewhere, at least half of those had to be for Duals, probably closer to 75%.

With that many orders, a shipment of 1,100 cpus to Vtech should not have made that much difference.

Either Apple clearly underestimated the demand for the Duals, or there are manafacturing problems or a chip shortage.

It sounds like Apple has only shipped a 1,000 or so Duals at best, perhaps much less.

Something really stinks somewhere.

I'm more and more glad that I cancelled my Dual G5 order today. I'll wait until they are in the stores.

[Phil Of Mac]

Apple hasn't always had the most reliable manufacturing contractors. It very well may be a problem there.

[GigaWire]

Originally posted by gregorypierce
Continuously Tardy Order

LOL, good stuff!

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by brucku
He meant, that it has to be in windows format for him to manage it with musicmatch, but then it is incompatible with his mac friends, but i think he should have kept it until his mac came, then reformatted.

Actually an iPod formated for Windows will work just fine on the Mac without reformatting. Just plug it into the Mac and it works you would never know it was formatted differently unless you checked.

[tduality]

Originally posted by ~Shard~

Oh, and the scary thing is, in 2023, a 22GHz machine will no doubt be very slow - I'm sure some sort of "optical psychic computer" will be around by then. And people will still be waiting for their 15" G5 PowerBook updates...

;)

- Shard

Don't think so. By this time Apple will have released an 'Powerbook 15'' emulator' which will run on one of those optical psychic quantum computers. :p

[esheep2001]

Well, I for one am not going to believe that the dual machines are shipping until I see some pictures somewhere of one being unpacked and in a users home or office. In fact I'd even be happy of a pic of one in a Apple store.

e.

[jZilla]

"your latest shipping date is October 17"-Apple UK on the phone 2 minutes ago... and my G5 dualie with Bluetooth and 9800 is a priority order (ie should ship with the Edu etc).

Grrr.

[ImAlwaysRight]

Originally posted by esheep2001
Well, I for one am not going to believe that the dual machines are shipping until I see some pictures somewhere of one being unpacked and in a users home or office. In fact I'd even be happy of a pic of one in a Apple store. I'll be more than happy to oblige assuming I get this credit card issue sorted today and my dual G5 actually ships. Darn EDU store doesn't open until 7:30 AM. I discovered the problem at 6:55PM last night, and of course they closed at 6:30...:rolleyes:

[robbieduncan]

Originally posted by two_tail
Because in that month and a half the value of the G5, both real and imaginary, which is currently being suspended by hype and suspense (among other things), will start to fall, especially as we get closer to the end of the year and the emergence of the 3GHz G5 (be it a 970 or not).


This is seems to be a common misconception. 3Ghz G5s are not due by the end of the year. Steve said within a year. i.e. probably late spring/early summer next year.

[Sayhey]

My dual G5 shipment is also delayed by a small technical factor: money! To be more specific my lack of enough to buy one of these excellent machines. Folks, the larger picture is they are shipping. I haven't seen a product release yet of anything that is worth a damn that doesn't have bottlenecks. Don't worry about getting yours and having the 3GHZ machines out too soon and thereby making yours obsolete - those will have the same distribution problems!

[zoozx]

Lets take a look at this.
Stevie boy says 3 gig G5 within a year on June 23 2003.
G5 2 gig's are not shipping until the end of Sept in any numbers which is the best case scenario as of today Sept 4.
That leaves 9 months to bump speeds from 2 - 3 gigs.
This means a speed bump will need to come in Jan - March to someplace in the 2.5 gig range.
Does any of that make sense.
Unfortunately I'm using a dinosaur and needed to upgrade 1 year ago but have been putting it off waiting for a G5. If your not desperate now, WAIT!

[3-22]

Has anyone actually got a dual G5 (or a shipping tracking #) yet? I've been pushed back, no email either... Kinda crappy... Gotta love "Estimated Ship Date". Just wondering if any are shipping at all...

[jamesatzones]

I'm sure a few machines have made their way out to the public but with the Virginia Tech order and several other large orders out there I would recommend not holding your breath about receiving one soon. Now you have to define soon and it is within the month then decide if you can hold your breath. This is of course Apple and can anyone say when hardware was actually out on time?

Still, I can't wait to start shipping these, many clients call daily asking about their order and all I can say are nice soothing phrases to hold off the dire need and desire to get pissed. Like the old adverb, good things come to those who wait, though no where does it say how long the "wait" may be!

[merges]

Originally posted by zoozx
This means a speed bump will need to come in Jan - March to someplace in the 2.5 gig range.
Does any of that make sense.

Why will there be an intermediate speed bump?

[nexus810]

at macworld sf jobs will annonce the 3ghz g5 to come out in June... Meanwhile he only says June but he actually means June 2005... Which is then changed to august 2005 due to errors and "back to school orders"

[jamesatzones]

Originally posted by nexus810
at macworld sf jobs will annonce the 3ghz g5 to come out in June... Meanwhile he only says June but he actually means June 2005... Which is then changed to august 2005 due to errors and "back to school orders"


Isn't 2005 a little optimistic, look how long it took the G4 to break the GHz barrier and we are now expecting a 1GHz speed bump...

[nexus810]

i was being sarcastic since Jobs said "within one year"

heh

[theRebel]

Originally posted by jamesatzones
This is of course Apple and can anyone say when hardware was actually out on time?

Last month the 1.6Ghz and 1.8Ghz G5 PowerMacs were shipped on time.

[jamesatzones]

Originally posted by theRebel
Last month the 1.6Ghz and 1.8Ghz G5 PowerMacs were shipped on time.

1.6 and 1.8 did ship out on time, so I retract my previous statement to a point: there are still not large quantities of both systems in the channel.

[MacBandit]

I think we as a group (that being Apple users) are still thinking like we did when Apple was dependent on Motorola. Those days are gone. Now about the 3GHz G5. The difference between IBM and Motorola is simple. Motorola would have or had to stop everything in order increase yields of the 2GHz PPC970 chips if they were producing them. This is not the case for IBM. The production development team is completely separate from the new chip development team. I don't know this for a fact but I have seen very strong evidence of it from the rapid development of the PPC970. While IBM may or may not be struggling to keep up on production of the 2GHz PPC970s (Remember production of the PowerMacs have been halted for the want of much much smaller parts in the past so there's no guarantee we're waiting for processors.) they have continued the development and engineering of the next generation PPC970 or maybe even the PPC980. Also Steve will want to ramp of the speed of the PowerMacs to be competitive on a paper as soon as possible so it wouldn't be impossible for them to announce a 3GHz PPC970 in January or February for the following month delivery.

[sky131]

Campus Computer at the University of Texas just got in a Dual 2 GHz demo yesterday, and I got to play with it for about 15 minutes. It was just the stock configuration, but it was insanely fast. After seeing and believing I will be placing an order for one tomorrow.

They also had the 1.6 model, but the dual was just intense.

I ran profiler on it and it had a Pioneer 106 in it as opposed to the Sony drive.

Hopefully the channel will be full of these by next month and everyone can experience the sheer awe of this machine.

[fourthtunz]

Originally posted by yoshi1013
Right now part of me is thinking "Well, I've practically waited for four years so what's another month and a half?"

But the other part of me is thinking "Dude! I've been waiting for four years, get it to me NOW god dammit!!!"

Yeah, the evolution of the Mac and the G4 has kept me glued to these forums:D
I still love the Mac but figure I can wait until more people have tested them. I can wait until Dec or Jan. The thing is I was going to rush out and get the cheap one but I don't want to buy ram that won't be around for awhile:confused:
8-1gig memory sticks for the 1.8 and the 2. gig
are going to push the cost up quite a bit, so I'm going to wait...:(
daniel

[Photorun]

Still no pics. I don't buy this story, I've been to Acc. your Mac practically every hour. Either they've been duped or we're being duped but no pics, no machine, all hoax. Want to convince us? Show us some DP pix or some screen shots. Can't/dont show them? Lies and damned lies told by the liars that tell them.

Still waiting.

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Photorun
Still no pics. I don't buy this story, I've been to Acc. your Mac practically every hour. Either they've been duped or we're being duped but no pics, no machine, all hoax. Want to convince us? Show us some DP pix or some screen shots. Can't/dont show them? Lies and damned lies told by the liars that tell them.

Still waiting.

I've been reading xlr8yourmac for years and have had a lot of correspondence with Mike Breeden the guy who runs XLR8yourmac.com and as said above if he says they're real, then they are.

[txcraig75]

Originally posted by sky131
Campus Computer at the University of Texas just got in a Dual 2 GHz demo yesterday, and I got to play with it for about 15 minutes. It was just the stock configuration, but it was insanely fast. After seeing and believing I will be placing an order for one tomorrow.

:eek:

Excuse me while I step out of the office and take a little trip down to 21st Street between Gregory Gym and Mo-Hill. }:8

[arn]

Photos and some Benchmarks posted:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37238