Sept US hardware/software sales

[Sky Blue]

HW Sales
Xbox 360 527.8K
Wii 501K
Nintendo DS 495.8K
PlayStation Portable 284.5K
PlayStation 2 215K
PlayStation 3 119.4K
Game Boy Advance 75K

SW Sales
360 HALO 3* MICROSOFT (CORP) 1 3.3 million
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA 2 282K
NDS LEGEND OF ZELDA: PHANTOM HOURGLASS NINTENDO OF AMERICA 3 224K
PS2 MADDEN NFL 08 ELECTRONIC ARTS 4 205K
360 SKATE ELECTRONIC ARTS 5 175K
360 MADDEN NFL 08 ELECTRONIC ARTS 6 173K
WII METROID PRIME 3: CORRUPTION NINTENDO OF AMERICA 7 167K
360 BIOSHOCK TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE (CORP) 8 150K
NDS BRAIN AGE 2: MORE TRAINING IN MINUTES A NINTENDO OF AMERICA 9 141K
PS3 HEAVENLY SWORD SONY (CORP) 10 139K


wowzers 360/Wii, lol PS3

[MacRumorUser]

Good sales figures. Hell 120,000 isn't so bad. Better than 360 in Japan no doubt :)

[Dagless]

Whoa! Contrats 360 :D Halo 3 really was a big event for MS!

At least the PS3 got above 100k this time.

[mkubal]

Whoa! Contrats 360 :D Halo 3 really was a big event for MS!

At least the PS3 got above 100k this time.

5 week month. Just sayin....

[sikkinixx]

One day a 3rd party Wii/DS game is gonna need to actually sell some units. Every top game is ALWAYS a Nintendo 1st/2nd party game. On the graph they have on Kotaku, 360 had 74% of the software revenue, Wii had 17% of the software sales and PS3 had 9%. So despite selling 4 times as many systems, it had less than twice the amount of software. And even without Halo 3 sales, 360 sold double the PS3 take so 360 would still outsold Wii games even without Halo 3.

Think 360 has peaked for this year? It has a lot of good games coming out but if people didn't buy it for Halo 3, what else are they gonna wait for? But it is a little worrying to me that 360 barely outsold the Wii despite it's biggest game, maybe even the biggest game period, coming out. Although NPD says that "

"According to the world-wide authority in entertainment reviews, Metacritic, Xbox 360 has 80 titles with a Metacritic review score of 80 or higher compared to just 31 for PS3 and 11 for Wii.

Newly released title "The Orange Box" (Valve) and the highly anticipated title "Mass Effect" (Microsoft Game Studios) have both generated rankings of 97 and higher according to Metacritic. And not to forget "BioShock" (2KGames) which remains one of the year's highest rated games."

So maybe the 360 is just getting started.

So, good news for 360 and Wii but a bit of bad news for all, though mostly for Sorny (as usual).

And the PSP is still doing well, I'm glad to see it's getting some sales since it really is becoming a great system (FFT....mmm)

[desenso]

Really? I'm not surprised to see the PS3 down there, but who the eff buys a PS2 at this point?

[Agathon]

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Think 360 has peaked for this year?

I think it's peaked period.

The PS3 is superior hardware, and its now cheaper for a more capable system. Microsoft had to hope that they had built a big enough lead with their year's head start. I honestly don't think they have.

/I own both consoles.

[sikkinixx]

I think it's peaked period.

The PS3 is superior hardware, and its now cheaper for a more capable system. Microsoft had to hope that they had built a big enough lead with their year's head start. I honestly don't think they have.

/I own both consoles.

I doubt that. Maybe next year after Sony hits with MGS4, GT5, GTAIV, Killzone 2, maybe even FFXII PS3 might have a good chance to score some massive damage against the 360.

But 360 will have GTAIV as well, plus the exclusive dlc and then Fable 2, Too Human, probably Gears 2...

I do agree that MS totally screwed themselves, especially last year by not putting out the AAA content to establish a better lead, and releasing Halo 3 so soon into the lifecycle is weird since there isn't gonna be a Halo 4 for a good long time, if ever and Halo = $$$Xbox$$$, but I suppose they will pull a Nintendo and milk the Halo name for all it's worth.

[michaelltd]

I think it's peaked period.

The PS3 is superior hardware, and its now cheaper for a more capable system. Microsoft had to hope that they had built a big enough lead with their year's head start. I honestly don't think they have.

/I own both consoles.

Remember though, just because one system has superior hardware doesn't mean it will become on top.

I'm not saying that PS3 won't be on top in the long run, but I'm also not saying that it will.

[mkubal]

I think it's peaked period.

The PS3 is superior hardware, and its now cheaper for a more capable system. Microsoft had to hope that they had built a big enough lead with their year's head start. I honestly don't think they have.

/I own both consoles.

Peaked in what sense? Given that the 360 owners seem to buy a lot of games, certainly more games are likely to be made. If more games continue to be made people will continue to buy the system.

Peaked technologically? That doesn't keep the Wii and DS from thorough domination in hardware every month.

I guess I just don't understand how a system that continues to easily outsell the PS3 (in NA) and has better games (my opinion... I guess) with more on the way will suddenly fall off. Sorry, but that's insane.

Do I have a PS3? No. Do I want one? Absolutely. But let's not be delusional about it overtaking the 360 in the near future. If it was as simple as having superior hardware PS3 would already be winning.

[2nyRiggz]

Good ole PSP still hanging in there stomping with the big dogs....well done.
PS3 is not making the sales it should but that could all change just like anything else in this world.

I think the 360 will be fine.....reached its peak...naaa...it has two to three years left in it. The line up of games doesnt interest me at the moment but I'll keep looking in for the gems.

Whats really interesting is what SK posted:

"According to the world-wide authority in entertainment reviews, Metacritic, Xbox 360 has 80 titles with a Metacritic review score of 80 or higher compared to just 31 for PS3 and 11 for Wii."

Not bad for the first year......oh and I really dont wanna hear people talk about the PS3 not having good games when the almighty wii has 11 80 or higher rating games.....yup no good games alright.(lets just put that to rest)


Bless

[Dagless]

2ny 2ny 2ny, as long as there are people shouting FUD like comments like BluRay being required for new games, Wii stock being held back blah blah you should expect such comments back.

Either way. Out of all these "80+ rated games" none on the 360 are enticing me. GTA4 is what I'm after, even these Halo 3 and PC ports (Orange Box) aren't exciting me.

[takao]

while software sales being impressive for halo the hardware push doesn't seem overwhelming..
the 360 out selling wii thanks to their absolute totally dominating blockbuster by _5%_ isn't the wide margin everybody expected (even i considered more like 100-200k)

[MacRumorUser]

Remember though, just because one system has superior hardware doesn't mean it will become on top.

I'm not saying that PS3 won't be on top in the long run, but I'm also not saying that it will.

Exactly. Agathon is talking the usual fanboy FUD.
Superior hardware tends to mean Jack ***** in these things.

MP3 wins music format war - but is less quality than what it replaces
VHS won over beta, but beta was a technically superior format
PS2 won over Cube & Xbox and yet was hardware inferior to both

PS3's hardware is not a guarantee of success, Sony forgot that and became utterly complacent and contemptuous towards it's customer base.

The 360 has just as many killer AAA games coming out for it as the PS3.
Alongside all the multi-format releases, GTA IV, Devil May Cry, Mercenaries etc... There is Mass Effect, Alan Wake, Too Human and a whole myriad of others.

Simply because you fail to see them or have any interest in them, does not negate their existence and importance to others.

And lets face it, there's still a chance Unchartered could turn out to be as much of a turkey as Lair and the rather bland/average hack n slash Heavenly Sword.


Oh and by adding /I own both consoles does not solidify an utterly meritless argument. period...

[2nyRiggz]

There is Mass Effect, Alan Wake, Too Human and a whole myriad of others.
And lets face it, there's still a chance Unchartered could turn out to be as much of a turkey as Lair and the rather bland/average hack n slash Heavenly Sword.


Thats your opinion but HS was a good game(the user/"professional:rolleyes:"ratings show that) What you are talking about here can go both ways....whos says those 360 titles won't be duds...your last argument doesn't hold up as well as the begining...we gotta look at these things equal.

We could all be up *beeps* creek if these titles don't deliver.


Bless

[MacRumorUser]

What you are talking about here can go both ways....whos says those 360 titles won't be duds...your last argument doesn't hold up as well as the begining...we gotta look at these things equal.

Oh I agree that MS games could be turkeys too. I didn't mean it to sound one way at all.

Oh and I know HS being average is only my opinion, I never said it was terrible, just average 6-7/10 for me (much like Gears and Halo 3) Over hyped and over-rated... :)

[2nyRiggz]

Oh and I know HS being average is only my opinion, I never said it was terrible, just average 6-7/10 for me (much like Gears and Halo 3) Over hyped and over-rated... :)

:eek: How did you fix your tongue to say that about the beloved!.....what I'm really checking for now is games...no more what console is best or none of that crap...I want the games to be as good as they can for all platforms.

I'm greedy....I win when good games come out;)


Bless

[MacRumorUser]

I'm greedy....I win when good games come out;)


Amen to that brau

(in a dog the bounty hunter accent) :D

[sikkinixx]

Amen to that brau

(in a dog the bounty hunter accent) :D

ya gotta find Christ brau, stay off the ice :p


While those games listed could be crap, I doubt it. Bioware doesn't make crappy games, maybe Jade Empire I guess, neither does Naughty Dog so Mass Effect and Uncharted are gonna be good games, two dudes from 1up Your basically made verbal love to Mass Effect on their last show. R&C is gonna be great too, since again, Insomniac doesn't make crappy games and R&C is their bread n butter, not mention that aside from people saying "well it might be too much like older R&C games" there has been nothing but good thoughts on it. Alan Wake, well who knows same with Fable 2 (remember Fable?! *grumble*) and Denis Dyac seems to hate Epic & MS so I'd like to see how good Too Human turns out to be (early previews say damn pretty but dull game).

[twoodcc]

dang, ps2 is still outselling ps3? :eek:

[zero2dash]

I think it's peaked period.

The PS3 is superior hardware, and its now cheaper for a more capable system. Microsoft had to hope that they had built a big enough lead with their year's head start. I honestly don't think they have.

/I own both consoles.

Don't let the fact that Sony's pushing the panic button with a console not even 1 year old sway your "opinion", please. -$200 in Ps3 price cuts vs -$50 for Microsoft? Yet the 360 has peaked and must be in danger? Pfft...:rolleyes:

[GFLPraxis]

I wouldn't say the 360 is in danger, but Sony's drastic price cuts might give them room to catch up.

[Agathon]

Exactly. Agathon is talking the usual fanboy FUD.
Superior hardware tends to mean Jack ***** in these things.

Yes it does. It means a great deal when the hardware isn't just a little better, but a lot better. All the PS3 has to do is roughly track 360 sales (i.e. sales as if the launch dates were aligned). If it can do that, eventually the technical advantage will begin to tell. The 360 is going to be punished for not having an HD drive for games, and for not having high capacity hard drives on most models (and the PS3 is actually cheaper if you take all the features into account).

HD gaming has not really taken off yet, so it's anyone's game. The fact that the PS2 has been outselling the next gen consoles (with the exception of last month) is telling.

You play Motorstorm or Heavenly Sword, and besides what you think of the games, you point me to a single 360 title that can match the graphics that those games have on the scale they have. I can't think of a single one (and I have most of the good 360 games). The 360 cannot even run its premier title, Halo 3, in true HD.

Simply put, once the console hits its stride in the next couple of years you'll see stuff on the PS3 that the 360 simply won't be able to emulate, because it just doesn't have the juice.

But by all means, continue to believe whatever you like.

[Agathon]

Don't let the fact that Sony's pushing the panic button with a console not even 1 year old sway your "opinion", please. -$200 in Ps3 price cuts vs -$50 for Microsoft? Yet the 360 has peaked and must be in danger? Pfft...:rolleyes:

Except the point of the next gen consoles was to be more than gaming machines. To be media centers. The 360 is hopeless at that. Most systems have a small hard drive and they all make such an abominable noise as to be useless at it. Not so for Sony's offering.

The PS3 is a more powerful machine and has a high definition format for its games (and a better HD format for media), and it is cheaper (feature for feature) and more reliable. How long before 4GB simply isn't enough for a next gen game? One year? Two years? Microsoft has already said that 360 games will not be on HDDVD. That is the 360's Achilles heel.

But go on believing. Microsoft's gamble was that they could build up enough of a lead with an inferior product given one year's head start. So far, they haven't managed to do that, and Nintendo is cleaning their clocks as well.

With every passing week that the 360 fails to obliterate the PS3, it becomes a weaker proposition. And the weeks are passing...

[Mackilroy]

<opinions without proof>

You make me laugh, Agathon. Even if the PS3 is more powerful than the Xbox 360, power isn't all there is. Isn't that what all the PS2 fanboys were screaming in the last generation? Because we all know the Xbox has more power than the PS2. And it came out on top.

And: If you use all the features, sure, it's cheaper. How many people are going to when a computer is a better system to use such features on? I have the 60 Gb PS3, and I've never used the memory card reader, SD slot, or any of that. I don't have any Blu-Ray movies either. While on the latter that might be more unusual, how many people use the former? Even with the wireless adapter I got for my 360, it was still cheaper than my PS3. And if all you want to do is play games, than the 360 is cheaper every time, regardless.

You also seem to be forgetting about compression and procedural generation. Have you heard of .kkrieger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.kkrieger)? It takes up 97 kilobytes, and it looks pretty good for those 97 kilobytes.

[Agathon]

I guess I just don't understand how a system that continues to easily outsell the PS3 (in NA).

And there you have it. In North America. The world is a very large place. Xboxes are largely a North American thing (like macs, if truth is to be told).

Don't think that the rest of the world cares as much as North Americans do.

[Dagless]

Except the point of the next gen consoles was to be more than gaming machines. To be media centers. The 360 is hopeless at that. Most systems have a small hard drive and they all make such an abominable noise as to be useless at it. Not so for Sony's offering.

Not really. Not one of the HD console owners around here uses them as media centres, hell once I got a big monitor for my iMac I ditched my own Xbox Media Centre machine.

Media centres are good for an absolute minority of people. The most these machines will see is Blue Ray or HD-DVD playback.

Look at console sales. PS2 is beating down the PS3, the DS is dancing over the PSP and the Wii topples them all. Media playback isn't a big deal for game machines. PSX anyone?

The PS3 is a more powerful machine and has a high definition format for its games (and a better HD format for media), and it is cheaper (feature for feature) and more reliable. How long before 4GB simply isn't enough for a next gen game? One year? Two years? Microsoft has already said that 360 games will not be on HDDVD. That is the 360's Achilles heel.

4gb may reach a limit, but 9.5gb?

A game without copious hours and days of cutscenes and individual textures (PGR4 was it?) simply do not need more storage. Games use prefabs, games use compression and other techniques to keep file sizes down (and quicker to load). Despite how much I don't like the game itself - Halo is giant. It's a very epic game yet it's sitting pretty on a DVD9. Orange Box? There's 40 hours of single player gameplay on one DVD.

But I do agree to the extent that the 360 has to do something big to stand up against the PS3. I can't imagine the PS3 overtaking any of the current systems, but I can imagine the 360 "sweating" it a little.

Right now it seems to be the PS3 sweating. What with all the price drops and new systems and every last ditch attempt to get the system priced alongside a 360.

Re: the power issue. Anyone care to tell me where the most powerful console won a generation? Seems to me the weakest seems to come out on top. Wonder why that is, price maybe? Easy to code for, bringing in more devs?

[ChrisK018]

I think the 360 will be fine for the next month or two as people continue to pick up Halo 3, aka "the franchise that saved the MS game console." When Mario Galaxy comes out my guess is that it will bump Wii purchases in a similar manner.

I can't think of a similar super-ultra flagship title for the PS3. Gran Turismo 5 and the latest FF? Those two are a wee bit too specialized.

[mkubal]

And there you have it. In North America. The world is a very large place. Xboxes are largely a North American thing (like macs, if truth is to be told).

Don't think that the rest of the world cares as much as North Americans do.

This is a thread about NA sales. If you want to talk about something else please start your own thread. Or at the very least stop with the unprecedented amount of FUD.

360 not a good Media Center? WTF I guess I'm just dreaming when I'm able to stream video and music from my iMac to the 360. Someone call me a doctor, I'm hallucinating.

The crap about the 360 being loud: when streaming content the disc drive (what causes the 360 to be loud) is not in use. Are you sure you own a 360 and haven't just played a friend of a friend's?

Again, please stop claiming the 360 is about to fail. The hardware and software numbers say the opposite. I think sonydefenseforce.com might be looking for a writer.

[Dagless]

I think sonydefenseforce.com might be looking for a writer.

WTF, did you know that was a real site or were you just guessing?

I say real site, they bundled together the "Sony Family" but split up Nintendo family :D must be written by a humourist or something.

[MacRumorUser]

the great soothsayer posts more words of incomprehensible wisdom!

I was going to respond but simply cant see any reason to rationalise with the irrational.

The thread has been killed by FUD! time to leave.

[mkubal]

WTF, did you know that was a real site or were you just guessing?

I say real site, they bundled together the "Sony Family" but split up Nintendo family :D must be written by a humourist or something.

I knew it existed, but I heard recently that it's written completely tongue-in-cheek. Regardless, it seems too serious to be fake, but it's awesome for a laugh every now and then, especially so on NPD day. They tend to (always) give crap reviews to 360 games and stellar reviews to PS3 games. Who knows why they even review 360 games.

And yes, that chart is freakin hilarious. :D

[zero2dash]

Except the point of the next gen consoles was to be more than gaming machines. To be media centers.

Really? I didn't know that any of the three companies made media centers. Oh wait, they don't. They are game consoles first and foremost. Perhaps you've been reading Kutaragi as if it were the gospel, hmm? But please, save us your "4D gameplay!!" and "I'll work four jobs to afford one!" speeches. :rolleyes:

The rest of your post is a 99&#37; FUD moot point, but I will entertain your last ditch effort at being witty.

With every passing week that the 360 fails to obliterate the PS3, it becomes a weaker proposition. And the weeks are passing...

...and Sony's still dead last, behind two consoles that you perceive as being weak and ill-equipped for taking down 'teh JUGGERNAUT!!!~!' :rolleyes:

Try harder next time, maybe you can spread on an even thicker layer of FUD. :cool: