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Cointreau
Oct 19, 2007, 07:43 AM
Now that the iPod Touch is Jailbroken, is there any way to change the background from the basic black to a custom image, WITHOUT installing Summerboard? I ask because I already installed Summerboard once (the alpha version, manually, from the website) and it kept causing my applications to randomly crash. I restored the iPod, re-installed everything except Summerboard and have been working fine since.

But now, I just want to put a custom image on the background. Not change icons or anything like that...

Is there a way to do this and if so, can someone point me in the right direction? None of the posts on the forum that i have found have given an explanation. Maybe I am using the wrong search terms.

Thank you in advance!



Vigilante
Oct 19, 2007, 08:38 AM
There is a customize program that I know of on thespicychicken.com. I have never used it myself, I'll post a link in a second to it.

Edit: Dock Swap (http://code.google.com/p/dockswap/)

Arisian
Oct 19, 2007, 08:40 AM
let me know if customize works. I uninstalled it because it didnt actually DO much of anything. It was written for the iphone before the update. If this is possible, I will uninstall summerboard as well... this is the only thing that is keeping me with sb...

so let me know if customize works :)
Thanks

Cointreau
Oct 19, 2007, 08:50 AM
Thank you for the reply!
I actually have already installed Customize, thinking that would allow background changes.
It does not seem to... or if it does, I don't know where to do that. I've been able to change my sliders around but not the actual background.

thank you for the link though, as now I'll be able to follow the progression of the software!

Any other thoughts, anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Arisian
Oct 19, 2007, 08:57 AM
thats sad...

I wish there was a simple app that does that because trip1pogo and summerboard hate eachother. Its like North Korea and South Korea live on my ipod!

Arisian

solyd
Oct 19, 2007, 09:51 AM
thats sad...

I wish there was a simple app that does that because trip1pogo and summerboard hate eachother. Its like North Korea and South Korea live on my ipod!

Arisian

SummerBoard by itself is just buggy.

It'd be nice if we can customize the background (dimmed) and have "Skip the Last Row" option manually. Someone's got to know how...

adamsweeting
Oct 19, 2007, 10:16 AM
Hear, hear guys...

SB is buggy as hell. I have to say that leaving pogo off has made it a lot better - but still get the odd crash. Nowhere near as bad as when I had both pogo and SB installed.

Like Arisian the only reason I'm stiicking with SB is coz of the wallpaper.

There must be a way!

Arisian
Oct 19, 2007, 10:34 AM
so in your guys experience, which is less buggy, trip1pogo or summerboard...

I can uninstalls summerboard but not trip1pogo unless I do a restore



it would be nice to know where the crap summerboard is reading/moving the background too so I could just change that file and move them in and out...

does anyone know?
Arisian

adamsweeting
Oct 19, 2007, 11:10 AM
Is SummerBoard written by Nullriver?

If so, we should drop them a mail - and ask them where to put the files?

Arisian
Oct 19, 2007, 11:16 AM
bleh, im at work... you can give it a try.. Take one for the team maybe?

Arisian

solyd
Oct 19, 2007, 12:29 PM
so in your guys experience, which is less buggy, trip1pogo or summerboard...

I can uninstalls summerboard but not trip1pogo unless I do a restore

Thoughts,
Arisian

Trip1Pogo is a LOT less buggy. I have Trip1Pogo right now without SummerBoard and I have NO crashes, none whatsoever. I'm leaving SummerBoard off until a more stable release; I hated the fact that it made my iPod crash every time I try to listen to music or run an application. It always happened at the most inopportune time too.

Someone should definitely send an e-mail to Nullriver and the PXL Development Team. Or maybe even ask around on the iPhone/iPod Touch dev IRC channel.

PowerFullMac
Oct 19, 2007, 12:31 PM
Is SummerBoard written by Nullriver?

If so, we should drop them a mail - and ask them where to put the files?

SummerBoard is working fine for me... If you want to know where to put the files then go on YouTube and search for "iPod Touch SummerBoard", should come up with a few video tutorials.

solyd
Oct 19, 2007, 12:37 PM
SummerBoard is working fine for me... If you want to know where to put the files then go on YouTube and search for "iPod Touch SummerBoard", should come up with a few video tutorials.

We're not talking about the files you have in mind. We're talking about what files SummerBoard modifies to change the background on the home screen.

PowerFullMac
Oct 19, 2007, 12:40 PM
They will come with the app itself. If you dont mind setting a few things up again and you have Windows then restore your iPod and use touchFree to jailbreak, it installs SummerBoard automaticly and thats what I used and its working fine, not a single crash (well mabee in Safari, but nothing outside the normal).

solyd
Oct 19, 2007, 12:43 PM
They will come with the app itself. If you dont mind setting a few things up again and you have Windows then restore your iPod and use touchFree to jailbreak, it installs SummerBoard automaticly and thats what I used and its working fine, not a single crash (well mabee in Safari, but nothing outside the normal).

Yes...we know the features come with SummerBoard. We're trying to manually change the background without SummerBoard as it is very buggy on our iPods and cause a lot of constant crashes. Please read the rest of this thread, seems obvious that you didn't.

PowerFullMac
Oct 19, 2007, 12:46 PM
Yes...we know the features come with SummerBoard. We're trying to manually change the background without SummerBoard as it is very buggy on our iPods and cause a lot of constant crashes. Please read the rest of this thread, seems obvious that you didn't.

Im just saying that the way I installed SummerBoard on my iPod has resulted in no bugs, so it may work better for your iPods too. If you want a replacement for SummerBoard to use for changing the background then look around the Installer.app, im sure there will be one somewhere.

Cointreau
Oct 19, 2007, 12:51 PM
PowerFullMac- I also installed Summerboard, more than likely the way you installed it, based on the video tutorials et al...

I still randomly crashed. Because SB is an alpha release for the 1.1.1, it is probably a bit buggy still. Not complaining, I just am not going to put something on my machine that crashes the applications randomly.

So instead, I'm looking for a way to just replace the black background with an image of my choosing. Hopefully simple to do, yet no one but the application developers of SB have figured out where to do that.

If I have time to drop Nullriver an email, I'll ask about that, but I was hoping there was an easy way to do it, just by replacing an image or something...

Arisian
Oct 19, 2007, 01:29 PM
post, i think i can find it somewhere.... What Im going to do is rename my background in my themes folder then dump my ipod contents and search for it

it will tonight though

arisian

bwanac
Oct 19, 2007, 02:00 PM
Here is how I do it:

-Make my custom background image... 320x480 .png file
-name it whatever you want
-then ssh into your ipod
-upload the file to the folder Library>Wallpaper

Done and done.

Ps. you an also add thumbnail versions... but i dont do that as i have delted all the other wallpapers and only have my one.

Arisian
Oct 19, 2007, 02:02 PM
Here is how I do it:

-Make my custom background image... 320x480 .png file
-name it whatever you want
-then ssh into your ipod
-upload the file to the folder Library>Wallpaper

Done and done.

Ps. you an also add thumbnail versions... but i dont do that as i have delted all the other wallpapers and only have my one.

do you have summerboard installed?

Thanks for your reply
Arisian

Arisian
Oct 19, 2007, 02:25 PM
bumpalufugus

adamsweeting
Oct 19, 2007, 02:49 PM
I've sent an e-mail to nullriver....

Let's see if they reply.

Arisian
Oct 19, 2007, 02:58 PM
that will be interesting since they know you are trying to now not use their software to acheive a similar result! :-D

cool, thanks for doing that

Arisian
Oct 19, 2007, 03:02 PM
Here is how I do it:

-Make my custom background image... 320x480 .png file
-name it whatever you want
-then ssh into your ipod
-upload the file to the folder Library>Wallpaper

Done and done.

Ps. you an also add thumbnail versions... but i dont do that as i have delted all the other wallpapers and only have my one.

thats a correct answer to the wrong question since those are for the main page when the ipod is locked and not the menu page...

hmmm

adamsweeting
Oct 19, 2007, 03:04 PM
that will be interesting since they know you are trying to now not use their software to acheive a similar result! :-D

cool, thanks for doing that

Yeah... This is very true. But I figured since it's not a program they charge for, it was worth a shot!

As my Mum always says... "if you don't ask, you don't get"

Arisian
Oct 19, 2007, 03:12 PM
ive been looking through the smbprefs file to see what i can find... not alot

TurboSC
Oct 19, 2007, 03:14 PM
yea springboard has always been the solution for me. I've used it with iPhone and it's perfect.

solyd
Oct 19, 2007, 04:01 PM
Yeah... This is very true. But I figured since it's not a program they charge for, it was worth a shot!

As my Mum always says... "if you don't ask, you don't get"

Your Mum is a very cool lady then :)

Let us know when you get a response.

adamsweeting
Oct 19, 2007, 04:40 PM
Your Mum is a very cool lady then :)

Let us know when you get a response.

She sure is!

So... there's a slightly newer version of SummerBoard out in the wild. I've installed it, let's see if this version is more stable!

Arisian
Oct 19, 2007, 04:43 PM
its the same version

i installed it then uninstalled it... trip1pogo is actually showing my backgrounds which is interesting :)

adamsweeting
Oct 19, 2007, 04:49 PM
Arisian: How do you know it's the same version?

Arisian
Oct 19, 2007, 04:55 PM
i looked at the version i dloaded and installed manually and i looked at the version that is on comm. resources now...

the one on comm resources before was the one that crashed it

adamsweeting
Oct 19, 2007, 05:09 PM
Ah... ok.

I had 3.0a09 on before, so I've installed 3.0a11.

Arisian
Oct 19, 2007, 05:13 PM
sigh, looks like Ill be doing a restore tonight...

adamsweeting
Oct 19, 2007, 05:14 PM
sigh, looks like Ill be doing a restore tonight...

What happened?!

Arisian
Oct 20, 2007, 01:37 AM
i got rid of summerboard and trip1 and am using a mod of springboard...

works great, no crashes ever....

however, wish I knew how to change my f
'n backgorund without installing one of those buggy ass programs (summerboard)

Arisian

PowerFullMac
Oct 20, 2007, 03:23 AM
I take back everytihng I said about my SummerBoard not crashing, it started doing yesturday every few minutes! Even worse, after it crashed if I tried to run any other app it would run for 5 seconds then crash! It seems to be working ok now though, after I turned dim wallpaper off! I think there is a update for the iPod Touch version of SummerBoard that makes it a bit more stable, but I have no WiFi or SSH access so I cant install it :(

Arisian
Oct 20, 2007, 10:15 AM
after further research ive determined that its not actually a background image, but its a overly thats not transparent...

so we need to figure out how to make the menu section transparent...

Arisian