I just upgraded to Leopard! READ ON!!!

[petvas]

Well, I just upgraded my White iMac to Leopard!
I started the upgrade at 00:36 local time (Germany) and I only had to put my password. Leopard did all the rest. It upgraded my installation. The process finished at 01:06, so it took exactly 30 minutes!
First Impressions

All my applications and settings were retained
Time Machine asked me on the first time I started in leopard, which of my five external Hard Drives should be used for backups. I didn't have to configure anything else
When I started Mail for the first time, it had to upgrade the mail database. After that, Mail is blazing fast!
I told Mail to import my RSS Feeds from Safari but that didn't work!
Reading RSS in Mail is nice to have
Tasks in Mail appear even if completed. That might be a bit distracting for some people
Mail is FAST! Seeing is believing!
Finder: Well, the first time it ran, it hanged! After killing the process, I was amazed by the speed and coverflow!
Quick View: COOL - GREAT FEATURE
Safari is blazing fast!
.mac has the option to synchronize settings and Dock items
Stacks: I am not impressed. I like the downloads stack though. I had to manually change the path in Mail and Safari though!
Spaces: I created 4 Spaces and I find it a very cool feature, especially the live ala expose preview
Applications start instantly, especially iLife and iWork!
iCal is much better. There is an inline editor and an event drop box now
Contacts is more or less the same
iTunes seems much faster than before


I am attaching screenshots! Seeing is believing!

[Eric Lewis]

Well, I just upgraded my White iMac to Leopard!
I started the upgrade at 00:36 local time (Germany) and I only had to put my password. Leopard did all the rest. It upgraded my installation. The process finished at 01:06, so it took exactly 30 minutes!
First Impressions

All my applications and settings were retained
Time Machine asked me on the first time I started in leopard, which of my five external Hard Drives should be used for backups. I didn't have to configure anything else
When I started Mail for the first time, it had to upgrade the mail database. After that, Mail is blazing fast!
I told Mail to import my RSS Feeds from Safari but that didn't work!
Reading RSS in Mail is nice to have
Tasks in Mail appear even if completed. That might be a bit distracting for some people
Mail is FAST! Seeing is believing!
Finder: Well, the first time it ran, it hanged! After killing the process, I was amazed by the speed and coverflow!
Quick View: COOL - GREAT FEATURE
Safari is blazing fast!
.mac has the option to synchronize settings and Dock items
Stacks: I am not impressed. I like the downloads stack though. I had to manually change the path in Mail and Safari though!
Spaces: I created 4 Spaces and I find it a very cool feature, especially the live ala expose preview
Applications start instantly, especially iLife and iWork!
iCal is much better. There is an inline editor and an event drop box now
Contacts is more or less the same
iTunes seems much faster than before


I am attaching screenshots! Seeing is believing!


how did you get this? other then pirating?


HOW IS PHOTOBOOTH BACKDROPS ? PHOTOS?

[petvas]

Why don't you focus on Leopard?

I have a family pack license. More I cannot tell!

[gauchogolfer]

Why don't you focus on Leopard?

I have a family pack license. More I cannot tell!

Well, people tend to be sensitive to pirated software around here. Especially something like OS X. So, you're either using a developer copy, which I imagine has no family pack license, in which case you're violating an NDA, or you're using a copy you downloaded. Which is it? It doesn't really matter, now does it?

[dukebound85]

Why don't you focus on Leopard?

I have a family pack license. More I cannot tell!

seeing how it hasnt been released im curious as well

also beta copies dont have family licenses.... if in fact you are a developer. so either way i think you got this through shady means if i do say so myself which is not too cool here

[petvas]

Photobooth? Well let me attach a screenshot!

[psychofreak]

I would like to know a few things:

Does final Safari3 have 'Scale to fit' when you right click an image that takes up the page, like S2 has but S3beta does not?

Is there a keyboard shortcut for 'Merge All Windows' in Safari? If so, what is it?


Is there a keyboard shortcut for 'Read next unread story' in Mail's RSS? If so, what is it?

How does the yellow Safari Find function (if that is what it is) look?

[petvas]

Well, people tend to be sensitive to pirated software around here. Especially something like OS X. So, you're either using a developer copy, which I imagine has no family pack license, in which case you're violating an NDA, or you're using a copy you downloaded. Which is it? It doesn't really matter, now does it?

Look, I do own a family pack license. How I got the installation media shouldnt be the issue here. Now, do you want to here about Leopard or not?
I always buy licenses of everything I own. I do mean that!!!

I would like to know a few things:

Does final Safari3 have 'Scale to fit' when you right click an image that takes up the page, like S2 has but S3beta does not?

Is there a keyboard shortcut for 'Merge All Windows' in Safari? If so, what is it?


Is there a keyboard shortcut for 'Read next unread story' in Mail's RSS? If so, what is it?

How does the yellow Safari Find function (if that is what it is) look?

In Safari, merge all Windows doesnt have a shortcut

I dont know if there is a shortcut for next unread story in Mail (RSS)

Scale to fit? Well, I havent tested that much but I will check. Here in Germany its 02:31am and I think I should go to sleep!

[xUKHCx]

Is there a keyboard shortcut for 'Merge All Windows' in Safari? If so, what is it?


i've had one for ages. System preferences - keyboard and mouse - keyboard shortcuts - then add your own.

88239

[petvas]

At the moment I am having a problem adding Web Clips to dashboard. I will post as soon as I find out why!

[CRAZYBUBBA]

how did you get this? other then pirating?




He is steve job's long forgotten german brother.

[monke]

Look, I do own a family pack license. How I got the installation media shouldnt be the issue here. Now, do you want to here about Leopard or not?
I always buy licenses of everything I own. I do mean that!!!

It is.

Leopard hasn't been released yet. Developers don't get family packs.

[flopticalcube]

Photo of installer disc, please?

[Eric Lewis]

Photobooth? Well let me attach a screenshot!

can photobooth take videos?

Photo of installer disc, please?

YES..please

or this is a pirated copy?

how did u get this?

can photobooth take videos?

how do the backdrops work?

photos please!

[xUKHCx]

;)88241;)

[petvas]

can photobooth take videos?

Yes!

[Eric Lewis]

Yes!

how did you get this copy?

[petvas]

how did you get this copy?
I cannot tell you. Its not illegal though. I just have my connections at Apple

[Eric Lewis]

I cannot tell you. Its not illegal though. I just have my connections at Apple

post a picture of the disk then!

[Sun Baked]

;)88241;)

This thread will be over real soon. :(

[monke]

I cannot tell you. Its not illegal though. I just have my connections at Apple

:rolleyes:

Nice try.

[juxtaposer]

Hmmmm... Well seeing as there was a thread earlier saying that Leopard had been leaked, and the OP's reluctance to give any details, I think I can safely put 2+2 together. It's a shame it leaked really.

[petvas]

RSS Bookmarks in Mail from Safari now works. A reboot did the trick

[/dev/toaster]

Hmmmmm

[Eric Lewis]

Hmmmmm

nice find!

[Sun Baked]

:rolleyes:

Nice try.

Not even a good try, and it is going to get really ugly in here.

How long before this thread goes invisible?

[monke]

Hmmmmm

wow. :rolleyes:

go figure.

[flopticalcube]

"I've already paid for it so torenting (from and to people who have not) is OK!"
hmmm....

[petvas]

post a picture of the disk then!

Who told you that the disc has to be an original one? I have a copy, I got it from Apple, and my official package is on its way. I don't understand you people!

"I've already paid for it so torenting (from and to people who have not) is OK!"
hmmm....

I never torrent anything. Sharing is illegal

[monke]

Who told you that the disc has to be an original one? I have a copy, I got it from Apple, and my official package is on its way. I don't understand you people!

So this one you have then is not official.

[Eric Lewis]

Who told you that the disc has to be an original one? I have a copy, I got it from Apple, and my official package is on its way. I don't understand you people!

U STOLE IT OFF THE INTERNET WITH TORRENTS>>>! THAT ILLEGAL>>DONT LIE ABOUT WHAT YOU DID! WE ALL KNOW

[LittleJ09]

Hmmmmm

Burn :)

[petvas]

So this one you have then is not official.

In the way you mean it no

[petvas]

U STOLE IT OFF THE INTERNET WITH TORRENTS>>>! THAT ILLEGAL>>DONT LIE ABOUT WHAT YOU DID! WE ALL KNOW

No I havent. I wont answer to u again. Enough said

[Eric Lewis]

No I havent. I wont answer to u again. Enough said

explain this

First, I'd like to say, I have placed my order for the family pack. It wont be shipped till Friday, that means I will get it on Monday or Tuesday...
I dont want to wait so long, so I am now downloading the final version from newsgroups. I wont tell u how, so please dont pm me.
I dont feel like I am being illegal here, I have paid 199€ for the family licence. I am just getting the DVD a bit earlier :)

[/dev/toaster]

Credits to xUKHCx for the original find :D

[Sun Baked]

No I havent. I wont answer to u again. Enough said

But you already answered.

First, I'd like to say, I have placed my order for the family pack. It wont be shipped till Friday, that means I will get it on Monday or Tuesday...
I dont want to wait so long, so I am now downloading the final version from newsgroups. I wont tell u how, so please dont pm me.
I dont feel like I am being illegal here, I have paid 199€ for the family licence. I am just getting the DVD a bit earlier :)

Which is what killed this thread.

[OldSkoolNJ]

;)88241;)


HAHAHAHAHA ..... I have never used this word before but I feel I must in this case .. pOwNeD!

Kevin :apple:

[monke]

Thread summary: OWNED. ;)

[xUKHCx]

U STOLE IT OFF THE INTERNET WITH TORRENTS>>>! THAT ILLEGAL>>DONT LIE ABOUT WHAT YOU DID! WE ALL KNOW

You were askin him questions before the moral 'police' came

[motulist]

You guys, relax about how he got the install. The thing comes out in just a few days, we're all gonna buy it, including this guy who got his hands on it 3 days early. He isn't giving the install to anyone, he's just giving us some info about what we're all gonna have in just a couple of days. I'm sure at this point Apple is happy to have people buzzing about the new OS. So lets all just enjoy the buzz.

[Eric Lewis]

You were askin him questions before the moral 'police' came

whatever..i was dying about PHOTOBOOTH LOL

[DeaconGraves]

Who told you that the disc has to be an original one? I have a copy, I got it from Apple, and my official package is on its way. I don't understand you people!

If you got your copy from Apple and its not the one you bought (and its not a torrent) then you violated the NDA. Good job. :mad:

[kresh]

explain this

Well technically he is not sharing, if he got it from usenet groups. Usenet's not like torrent where you have to upload to download.

Does not make it right though.

[njmac]

If you got your copy from Apple and its not the one you bought (and its not a torrent) then you violated the NDA. Good job. :mad:

he said in the other thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4372827) that he downloaded it from a newsgroup but doesn't feel its illegal (even though it is) because he ordered the family pack so he's just getting it early.

[Sun Baked]

he said in the other thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4372827) that he downloaded it from a newsgroup but doesn't feel its illegal (even though it is) because he ordered the family pack so he's just getting it early.

He also says he worked for Microsoft, so I guess that makes it all right to pirate Mac software. :p

[DeaconGraves]

he said in the other thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4372827) that he downloaded it from a newsgroup but doesn't feel its illegal (even though it is) because he ordered the family pack so he's just getting it early.

Hmm... guess I'll go buy a rolex online and then take someone elses before it gets here.

[psychofreak]

Hmm... guess I'll go buy a rolex online and then take someone elses before it gets here.

That is NOT the same, and you know it...

[yadmonkey]

Wow, you'd think this guy got busted for child abuse the way these holier-than-thou forum members are coming down on him. I'm sure none of them has ever broken a law of any kind.

[Eric Lewis]

so i can rob a bank

and pay them back later?

and nothing happens?

this is like what you did? can i do this with a bank?

[DeaconGraves]

That is NOT the same, and you know it...

Explain. And don't just say he bought a license, not the actual software.

Not trying to being high and mighty, but people keep breaking the rules and then wondering why apple keeps tying things down more.

[ironic23]

what kind of file system is leopard using? any options for ZFS?

[flopticalcube]

Wow, you'd think this guy got busted for child abuse the way these holier-than-thou forum members are coming down on him. I'm sure none of them has ever broken a law of any kind.

If we do, we don't go about on internet forums bragging about it. At any rate, its in all our interests to make sure that Apple never feels the need to start activation of any kind. We all know where that road leads.

[vansouza]

Hmmmmm

brilliant find

[psychofreak]

Explain. And don't just say he bought a license, not the actual software.

Not trying to being high and mighty, but people keep breaking the rules and then wondering why apple keeps tying things down more.

Torrenting after paying (without the will to cancel the order etc.) hurts no one financially, it is essentially a victimless crime.

[xUKHCx]

so i can rob a bank

and pay them back later?

and nothing happens?

this is like what you did? can i do this with a bank?

say some abuses a child and then shares that picture with someone, the sharing of the picture is said to drive the abuse

how do the backdrops work?

photos please!

[DeaconGraves]

Torrenting after paying (without the will to cancel the order etc.) hurts no one financially, it is essentially a victimless crime.

In this one instance sure... but nothing's stopping him from turning around and selling his legal copy of leopard now that he's got a copy. I am not saying that the OP will do this but nothing's stopping anyone else from doing it.

Besides, everytime someone gets on the internet and brags about downloading leopard early, we get one step closer to "Apple Activation Wizard" for 10.6

[Blue Velvet]

Besides, everytime someone gets on the internet and brags about downloading leopard early, we get one step closer to "Apple Activation Wizard" for 10.6


Heh, not a vision many of us want to share, but it has some truth to it.

[Sun Baked]

Anyways, thanks for the pictures Peter.

Sort of sucks that the thread turned south, but that is what tends to happen with these.

[Brianstorm91]

Maybe he felt the need to get one over us after we got 2 over them ;)

Cue threats, claims of racism or blocking by a mod.
I'm English: sarcasm :rolleyes:

[vansouza]

Explain. And don't just say he bought a license, not the actual software.

Not trying to being high and mighty, but people keep breaking the rules and then wondering why apple keeps tying things down more.

He has no right to the software until the license is in his hands. If in fact his copy has not shipped yet, his card has not been charged, and he has no ownership rights. None, therefore he is in fact stealing; morally and legally wrong as in without any righteousness. You do not have to have lived a life free wrong to recognize it when you see it. :eek:

[xUKHCx]

Maybe he felt the need to get one over us after we got 2 over them ;)

Cue threats, claims of racism or blocking by a mod.
I'm English: sarcasm :rolleyes:

What 66 and 01 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_1_England_5_(2001)). Seriously though they got their own back at wembley a month or so ago.

[Karvel]

More screen-shots please ;)

[DeaconGraves]

Maybe he felt the need to get one over us after we got 2 over them ;)


Oh Snap!

[motulist]

If I pay mail-order for a physical object, then take someone else's same object so I can use it while I wait for my own object to arrive in the mail, at which point I'll return the stolen object to its owner, that results in several events that make it theft. I've deprived that person I stole from of the use of that object while I had it, and I've given it normal-use wear and tear.

If I pay mail-order for a copy of software, then make a COPY of the software which I use until my software arrives in the mail, then no one was deprived of the use of software while I was using it early, and there was no normal-use wear and tear that the owner of the original will now suffer.

It's a night and day difference. In the real world of how life works, one is clearly theft, the other clearly is not.

[yadmonkey]

I'm not getting into an ethical debate. I just have a big problem with people judging each other so readily. People are all too willing to judge each other quickly and that seems to me to be the root of so much ill-will in the world. I think judgement should be used sparingly and otherwise people should be humble enough to know that they know so little in the big picture. Yes, what he did was technically illegal, but it's difficult for me to see how the OP has warranted so much venom.

[Brianstorm91]

What 66 and 01 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_1_England_5_(2001)). Seriously though they got their own back at wembley a month or so ago.

Yeah, the footie :rolleyes:

[Daveway]

Can you all stop fighting about the morality of the OP and just shut up. We were all getting very helpful and good information, until someone cried wolf.

Stop trying to look like an Apple profit heroin and get over it.

[Sun Baked]

It's a night and day difference. In the real world of how life works, one is clearly theft, the other clearly is not.

But that is also a difference that can only be determined in a court after you have been nailed for downloading from a site.

When you download from the same site as everyone else who doesn't pay, it is rather hard for somebody to sort you out from the crowd.

Plus: it is really stupid to say you are going to make a download from a site, then prove it with a BIG VISIBLE thread like this.

[DeaconGraves]

If I pay mail-order for a physical object, then take someone else's same object so I can use it while I wait for my own object to arrive in the mail, at which point I'll return the stolen object to its owner, that results in several events that make it theft. I've deprived that person I stole from of the use of that object while I had it, and I've given it normal-use wear and tear.

If I pay mail-order for a copy of software, then make a COPY of the software which I use until my software arrives in the mail, then no one was deprived of the use of software while I was using it early, and there was no normal-use wear and tear that the owner of the original will now suffer.

It's a night and day difference. In the real world of how life works, one is clearly theft, the other clearly is not.

This might work if we were dealing with two weeks ago and I had ordered a Tiger upgrade...

But Leopard has not been RELEASED yet. No one is supposed to have a copy of Leopard yet, so you aren't even legally "borrowing" it. Also, it brings up the fact that many other people have mentioned that Leopard hasn't shipped so one technically hasn't even paid for it either.

[Eric Lewis]

well if u stole it..its too late anyways

post more screenshots please

[xUKHCx]

Yeah, the footie :rolleyes:

I did get the reference so no need for the rolleyes,, it twas a little sarcasm back.

[Sun Baked]

well if u stole it..its too late anyways

post more screenshots please

I think we chased him off.

http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2967

[Brianstorm91]

I did get the reference so no need for the rolleyes,, it twas a little sarcasm back.

OS X.6 should automatically detect sarcasm and put it in italics or something, it'd make IM conversations much more understandable.
And forums :)

[nissan.gtp]

doesnt' seem like a big deal, as long as it's *actually* paid for

if a copy(s) is loose in torrents, be more concerned with those that leaked it in the first place.

[motulist]

But that is also a difference that can only be determined in a court after you have been nailed for downloading from a site.

When you download from the same site as everyone else who doesn't pay, it is rather hard for somebody to sort you out from the crowd.

As I said, I wasn't arguing about what the law says, the laws in this country are beyond corrupt these days. I'm talking about what is and what is not theft in the real world. As for him being stupid about announcing his piracy, I'll agree with you there, but as for actually getting in legal trouble for it, he didn't download from a site, he DL'ed from NGs, which is basically impossible to get bust for downloading from, so he's in no danger at all.

[xUKHCx]

OS X.6 should automatically detect sarcasm and put it in italics or something, it'd make IM conversations much more understandable.
And forums :)

I just see someone is a brit and assume either what they say is in jest or is sarcastic :)

[Brianstorm91]

I just see someone is a brit and assume either what they say is in jest or is sarcastic :)

Good thinking mate.
Our Online Store's been down for ages now.

[Karvel]

On the front-page now haha

[dukebound85]

just wondering why this thread isnt locked as its talking about PIRATED software

sure im as excited as anyone else dont get me wrong

[Sun Baked]

just wondering why this thread isnt locked as its talking about PIRATED software

sure im as excited as anyone else dont get me wrong

It'll likely vanish now that arn has picked it clean.

[D1G1T4L]

just wondering why this thread isnt locked as its talking about PIRATED software

sure im as excited as anyone else dont get me wrong

Too busy putting it on the front page.

[DeaconGraves]

just wondering why this thread isnt locked as its talking about PIRATED software

sure im as excited as anyone else dont get me wrong

Two words: ad clicks

[twoodcc]

haha, nothing like reading how macrumors scared off a pirate :p

[Sun Baked]

haha, nothing like reading how macrumors scared off a pirate :p

Still little too much personal info from Peter, can nail his ass with the pics -- if somebody so chooses.

If a mod is feeling nice they will make the thread vanish so the risk to Peter is minimized.

[twoodcc]

Still little too much personal into from Peter, can nail his ass with the pics -- if somebody so chooses.

If a mod is feeling nice they will make the thread vanish so the risk to Peter is minimized.

yeah, but the funny part is that no one had to go to those measures....and still scared him off.

i mean, if you're gonna make an argument or claim, stand by it

[majorwimp]

Thanks for the post. Just looking at this Eric Lewis guy completely losing his mind over the fact that you have Leopard and he doesn't just brings warm feelings to my heart. Nice work.

[aquanutz]

Is it just me or in the screenshots of PhotoBooth does it look like he is wearing blue makeup on his eyelids before you look at the image in its actual size?

It also amazes me how stupid this guy is... I thought it was classic when he claimed he has sources at Apple... Toolbox.

[xUKHCx]

He is only giving us information we all want. If not him then someone else would've posted it anyway.

[lateralus1082]

lol, I don't know why all you people get your panties in a bunch over this. So you people paid $129 for this, and some didn't. Why lose sleep over this?

[MBX]

he's not scared off.

i assume it's just really late or early now in germany and our german freund wearing wife-beater is asleep.

but if our german freund can tell us if cs3 works alright on leopard that would be lovely.