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MacRumors
Sep 8, 2003, 06:58 PM
According to an email from the organizer of Apple Expo Paris, there will be no live keynote stream for next week's Keynote Speech.



daSilVetZ
Sep 8, 2003, 07:05 PM
Wow. That's disappointing :mad:

Omek
Sep 8, 2003, 07:09 PM
Uhg.... where was this heard...?

Freg3000
Sep 8, 2003, 07:12 PM
There goes......ummm....everything. Someone tell me I am wrong. I would love to be wrong.

P.S. Just thinking....does this mean no live stream, and following one will be available, or no stream period?

Powerbook G5
Sep 8, 2003, 07:18 PM
I hope it's just no live stream, which could be obvious since it will be like 3 am ET here when it is being given in Paris. WWDC didn't have a live stream, either, but one that followed a few hours later. I would hope that they included the same thing for Paris that we could watch the next day.

GregGomer
Sep 8, 2003, 07:23 PM
Even if new hard ware was coming, it's more likely to be released out side of MacWorld unless it was something huge, like the G5 or 17" powerbook, but other wise Apple has gotten away from Hard Ware at expos. Probably announced the week of or after on their site.

If anything I only expected to learn more about Panther, and to maybe get a release date. That wouldn't get streamed, we'll probably be able to watch a stream of it later, but I doubt it would be a live stream.

bobindashadows
Sep 8, 2003, 07:40 PM
Well, how about we make completely unfounded conclusions based on the facts we know:

a) Steve is speaking

b) No Live Stream

Well Jeez, come on, it's obvious nothing is coming out, despite, like was mentioned, WWDC wasn't live streamed. (on the net, I mean)

AppleMatt
Sep 8, 2003, 07:47 PM
hmmm. Annoying but I wouldn't read into it. No doubt it'll be posted on Apple's site after the event.

I don't give a crap about folding, because I have to pay electric bills, and my G4 is a ***** when it comes to the bills

:confused:

AppleMatt

simX
Sep 8, 2003, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by AppleMatt
:confused:

AppleMatt

(i.e.: G4 sucks power; power costs money; power bills ask for money; money goes away after paying bills. Ergo, turn off G4, money stays. :) )

cb911
Sep 8, 2003, 08:16 PM
hopefully this means Apple will do something like they did with WWDC. then when they show it a couple of hours later they have time to edit out all the mishaps. ;) :p

pyrotoaster
Sep 8, 2003, 08:55 PM
I'm not surprised in the slightest by this. A live stream would be nice, but only so many people would bother getting up at 2 AM to watch it. It may not be worth the work.

Stella
Sep 8, 2003, 08:58 PM
Life sucks.. but in reality, for people living West of Europe (read: Americas), need not worry. In EST, the Paris keynote is like 3am in the morning!

Get a good night sleep and watch the speech at work or at uni or something!

alia
Sep 8, 2003, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by pyrotoaster
I'm not surprised in the slightest by this. A live stream would be nice, but only so many people would bother getting up at 2 AM to watch it. It may not be worth the work.

And I was really hoping it was worth the look! :)

Alia

Photorun
Sep 8, 2003, 09:11 PM
Craporola. I wish Apple/Jobs would get it through their thick thick skulls that PR/buzz is GOOOOOD!!! WTF do they think they'd gain by not showing it? Moronic move... that is, if this rumor is true.

Then again, maybe they'll show it on MSNBC only on Windoze Media player like the Apple Music store announcement/keynote was. GRRRR!!!

stoid
Sep 8, 2003, 09:23 PM
At least it's early, so that by time we awake on Tuesday, we'll have the results! :D

Wonder Boy
Sep 8, 2003, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by stoid
At least it's early, so that by time we awake on Tuesday, we'll have the results! :D

Excellent point.

twentyeight7
Sep 8, 2003, 10:03 PM
ya im EST so i dont really care about a stream

MrMacMan
Sep 8, 2003, 11:14 PM
A steam would have been nice...

drat.

News From this site I guess... will still be good.

:D

SeaFox
Sep 9, 2003, 01:28 AM
Originally posted by pyrotoaster
I'm not surprised in the slightest by this. A live stream would be nice, but only so many people would bother getting up at 2 AM to watch it. It may not be worth the work.

Get up? Who's said we all went to bed that early?

On the other hand, going to bed and waking up to new Powerbooks would be kinda like Christmas. :D

... In his sharp Gap turtleneck all wooly and black, I knew at once what he had in his sack....

And Santa Jobs exclaimed as he drove out of sight:
"Merry iPods to all, and to all a Panther night! Ho-ho-ho!"

groovebuster
Sep 9, 2003, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by Powerbook G5
I hope it's just no live stream, which could be obvious since it will be like 3 am ET here when it is being given in Paris.

Don't be so self-centered! ;) 50% of Apple's customers are not living in North America and they maybe would like to know too what is going on. And since this Macworld is targeting the european market it would be more than fair if european mac-heads can follow the keynote, don't you think?

groovebuster

onemilkid
Sep 9, 2003, 02:30 AM
I think it is **** that there will be no stream, because then I've to raise my head to the stage instead of looking at my laptop, cause I got K badges for the Keynote next week. I will be there when Steve-O announces:

Wireless-Bluetooth-Mouse and Keyboard
New PowerBooks
New Phillips-RendezVous AV Home Device
New Soundsticks (5.1 Surround)
New 17/20/23 and 33" Cheesegrater Displays
Panther
New XServe and Raid
iApp-Updatorama
iTunes Store Europe in September
iTunes for Windoes in October

groovebuster
Sep 9, 2003, 02:41 AM
You got a badge for the Keynote? When did it arrive? I subscribed for the Keynote but just got my ticket for the Macworld in general so far...

:(

groovebuster

orion123
Sep 9, 2003, 06:51 AM
Has MW Paris ever been streamed live? I don't think so. In fact, I can't remember anything that was streamed live other than MWSF, MWNY and Seybold.

iPod launch wasn't, iTMS wasn't, G5 at WWDC wasn't. Was the white iBook launch special announcement live? I don't think it was.

It's 3am, it's tough to set up a huge transatlantic mp4 stream with a live broadcast control room, and besides, it will probably be available a few hous later, which is when I'll be waking up anyways.

Shrike_Priest
Sep 9, 2003, 07:50 AM
Crap... I would have loved to see it live. It can't be that hard can it, they've done it in the past.

I don't think Apple understands how much of an impact the keynotes have.

At least when it comes to Mac users, that's like the number one event of the year.

Kid Red
Sep 9, 2003, 09:01 AM
Ah. refreshen my memory as to when there was ever a Paris stream.

buseman
Sep 9, 2003, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by Kid Red
Ah. refreshen my memory as to when there was ever a Paris stream.

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/expo02/

mkwilson68
Sep 9, 2003, 09:52 AM
Hey, it's nice for once that we Europeans get to see something live... usually, like this year's WWDC (Apple's biggest announcement in years) we have to wait for the post-event stream or follow the text commentaries from an attendee.

But hey, don't worry, we'll keep you all informed ;)

orion123
Sep 9, 2003, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by buseman
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/expo02/

Yes but that was not a live stream. There has never been a live Paris stream that I remember. I do hope they archive one though, and if SJ is there, you can be sure they will.

Now the only question is can I avoid clicking on any Mac news sites before wiatching the video? No.

onemilkid
Sep 9, 2003, 10:28 AM
does anybody know where you can see some older keynotes from 2002 and before?

cb911
Sep 9, 2003, 04:36 PM
yeah, i think you can watch the older streams. just do a search, or try typing in the appropriate URL. i'm not sure where exactly you can find them though.

and for all the people calling Steve Jobs 'Steve-O' could you please just call him Steve? whenever Steve-O is mentioned i keep thinking about "The Horribly Gay Career Ending Footage of Steve-O". :eek: eewww... and that's something i don't want to be reminded about.

bennetsaysargh
Sep 9, 2003, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by cb911
hopefully this means Apple will do something like they did with WWDC. then when they show it a couple of hours later they have time to edit out all the mishaps. ;) :p

like the digital camera! :p

i would wake up for it at 3am if it was live. i'll need to get ready for school t 5, so figure it's 2 hours, or even an hour and a half.

ColoJohnBoy
Sep 9, 2003, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by Freg3000
There goes......ummm....everything. Someone tell me I am wrong. I would love to be wrong.

P.S. Just thinking....does this mean no live stream, and following one will be available, or no stream period?

I don't think this is really significant. Only the select few Mac Faithful (meaning those reading this) would be the ones watching it at 3 am, not making it worth the trouble. I'm positive they'll make stream available later that day, no matter how minor the announcements made.

Edot
Sep 9, 2003, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by orion123
Yes but that was not a live stream. There has never been a live Paris stream that I remember. I do hope they archive one though, and if SJ is there, you can be sure they will.

Now the only question is can I avoid clicking on any Mac news sites before watching the video? No.

There was supposed to be a stream from Paris Expo to Seybold Seminars in SF in 2001, but they cancelled Paris Expo because of Sep. 11. I don't think that even counts as a cancelled stream as you are referring to a web stream.:D

cb911
Sep 10, 2003, 05:26 AM
Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
like the digital camera! :p


eh? what digital camera?:confused:

groovebuster
Sep 10, 2003, 05:33 AM
Originally posted by ColoJohnBoy
I don't think this is really significant. Only the select few Mac Faithful (meaning those reading this) would be the ones watching it at 3 am, not making it worth the trouble.

Thanks from the insginficant 50% of macusers not living in the US... :rolleyes:

groovebuster

groovebuster
Sep 10, 2003, 05:35 AM
Originally posted by cb911
eh? what digital camera?:confused:

The one that didn't work a few macworlds ago when SJ wanted to show how iPhoto works... I guess the battery was empty if I remember right! :D

groovebuster

cb911
Sep 10, 2003, 05:51 AM
he he. :D i never heard about that camera incident.

i also just found a nice shot of 'Steve-O' (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/steveomug1.html).

i doubt that Steve Jobs would staple his scrotum to his thigh, or would want to be mentioned in the same sentence as Steve-O. so please, no more Steve-O. too many bad memories! :eek: :p :eek:

bennetsaysargh
Sep 10, 2003, 06:23 PM
lol about the steve-o

and the battery was dead:p
i thought they check these kind of things!
wouldnt it be funny if he forgets to turn the screens on and tries to play a new commercial?:p

SeaFox
Sep 10, 2003, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by groovebuster
The one that didn't work a few macworlds ago when SJ wanted to show how iPhoto works... I guess the battery was empty if I remember right! :D

groovebuster

Yeah, but they never edited it out. I saw it in the non-live QT stream later on. He's there playing with the camera for about three minutes and then chucks it right off stage.

Rower_CPU
Sep 10, 2003, 11:26 PM
Have there ever been live streams for any of the non-US events?

I can't recall seeing one for Tokyo, but my knowledge of Apple streams doesn't go that far back...

ABassCube
Sep 15, 2003, 11:20 AM
I'm not sure which keynotes have been live, as I watch most of them later anyway. I do believe the first iPod announcement was live, and I'm thought the iTMS keynote was too. Anyway, it doesn't really matter if it's not live. It doesn't matter at all to me cause I'm obviously not getting up at 3 in the morning to watch it. But even for those living outside the US, you can't wait a couple of hours to find out what happened? There'll most likely be live updates on the rumor sites anyway. MacRumors says they'll try to, or they'll link to another site that is. MacCentral always does live coverage too.

Adam