View Full Version : Unoffical List of MISSING Features in Leopard
Wild-Bill
Oct 30, 2007, 06:07 AM
I haven't seen a thread on this, so I figured I'd start one. Hopefully we can get a lot of participation on this and it'll become a sticky.
So, what did Apple leave out of Leopard that was supposed to be in Leopard? i.e. demoed and touted by Steve.
Resolution Independence
iChat Star Wars hologram
No album art with leopard front row when networking
No wireless backups in Time Machine
Half of the firewall (it seems) :p
User-created Stacks from random apps/files/folders
Inability to sync Mail notes to iPhone
No iPod Home
No "Fast" switching with Bootcamp
Java Version 6
Jobs mentioned "secret features". So where are they?
What else was left out? :confused:
** This list is mainly for tallying the features that were supposed to be in Leopard, but got dropped inexplicably. **
miniConvert
Oct 30, 2007, 06:10 AM
Java Version 6. The mind boggles.
frosse
Oct 30, 2007, 06:11 AM
What does the resolution independence mean?
Queso
Oct 30, 2007, 06:13 AM
More options in the Appearance System Prefs panel allowing adjustment of translucency levels.
Wayfarer
Oct 30, 2007, 06:25 AM
-Option in Appearance Preferences to toggle between transluscent/opaque menubar
-Option in Dock Preferences to toggle between 2D/3D dock.
-Bringing back nested folders to Dock stacks
-More stack customization (Ex. changing icon size)
-Option to assign your own desktop pictures to Spaces?
Ilomoga
Oct 30, 2007, 06:37 AM
Didn't Steve Jobs say on the WWDC this year that you can switch between Windows and MacOS really fast? I always wondered how this could be possible without virtualization, but nothing like this is included in Leopard - except that Leopard boots and shuts down fast, but that doesn't count for Windows (XP or Vista), which booth need long to boot on my MacBook .. (especially XP needs much longer than on my old (!) PC).
joshysquashy
Oct 30, 2007, 06:39 AM
No iPod Home
No "Fast" switching with Bootcamp
Oh and you can make your own stacks - just drag a folder to the dock and everything in that folder shows in the stack!
Steve Jobs=God
Oct 30, 2007, 06:47 AM
Wasn't there another iCHat effect missing aswell?
Hero i think it was called, looked pretty cool
Iggy
Oct 30, 2007, 06:47 AM
Address book doesn't do Bluetooth anymore.
xUKHCx
Oct 30, 2007, 06:52 AM
No iPod Home
No "Fast" switching with Bootcamp
Oh and you can make your own stacks - just drag a folder to the dock and everything in that folder shows in the stack!
By iPod Home are you meaning Portable User accounts that can be stored on external drives such as the iPod. If so I don't remember it supposidly being intorduced in Leopard, however thre is a similar feature now avbailabe in Server (http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/features/client.html)
External Accounts
Hard Drive
External Accounts is a new Portable Home Directory feature that allows you to store a user’s home directory on a portable FireWire or USB drive. The account can be fully managed using Workgroup Manager and protected using FileVault.
grabberslasher
Oct 30, 2007, 06:52 AM
Resolution Independence is in Leopard, change the screen scale factor to 2x or 3x and you can see that text and controls remain sharp.
xUKHCx
Oct 30, 2007, 08:00 AM
An update re: portable user accounts. There is some stuff in the standard release that i just found (while looking for something completely different)
89464
pilotError
Oct 30, 2007, 08:21 AM
Time Machine Backups to a network device (ie. Disk hanging off of AEBS or an NAS device).
The forums are buzzing with work arounds. I'm a little surprised Apple pulled this...
Wild-Bill
Oct 31, 2007, 01:22 AM
Anyone else have any items that were planned for Leopard, talked about, and/or demoed that suddenly went "missing" (dropped) by Apple?
Hobofuzz
Oct 31, 2007, 01:26 AM
Resolution Independence isn't missing.
When I connected my external monitor to my laptop for the first time after upgrading, Leopard mirrored the displays and my laptop LCD ended up displaying at 1024x768. When I went to change this with System Preferences, the window took up the exact percentage of my screen as it did when at the native resolution of my LCD, 1440x900. In Tiger, all I'd see was a giant window that didn't fit on the screen. With Leopard, that giant window was scaled down and fit perfectly.
Nermal
Oct 31, 2007, 01:52 AM
HD DVD support. I never saw screenshot proof but heard that earlier versions of DVD Player had partial support for them (preferences and logos, even though it couldn't play them).
mosx
Oct 31, 2007, 05:24 AM
Leopard definitely needs a FULL firewall with the ability to block outbound traffic.
DVD Player needs disc caching. You know, cache the disc to RAM and play the movie from there. Saves battery life, reduces heat, increases the overall live of the optical drive.
DVD Player also needs proper audio down-mixing and decoding. Windows DVD players basically fold the 5 channels into 2 with no audio tossed out, and they decode the .1 LFE (subwoofer) channel and throw that into the mix too. Watching a DVD on good headphones on a Windows machine will outperform any of those sub-$500 HTiB systems you get from Best Buy, Wal-Mart, etc. Why can't Apple do this? WinDVD, PowerDVD, etc. have all had proper decoding and down-mixing since the late 90s.
DTS decoding in DVD Player would be nice as well.
Doctor Q
Oct 31, 2007, 10:17 AM
As far as I can tell, there is no AppleWorks plug-in for Quick Look.
xUKHCx
Oct 31, 2007, 10:23 AM
I know it was never mentioned but i'd like the ability to save the workspace between log outs / power cycles. By this i basically mean a variant of safe sleep that is persistent over log outs.
DavidLeblond
Oct 31, 2007, 10:25 AM
Just an aside, I wish people would stop griping about the lack of secret features. Jobs said there were aspects of Leopard he wasn't ready to announce yet when Leopard was first demoed. He showed those "secret features" at WWDC. Sure they weren't mind blowing, just a shiny dock and stacks, but its not his fault that we got ourselves in a rumor frenzy.
I'm a little surprised at the lack of the hologram in iChat, seeing how it obviously worked. And the time machine AirDisk support.
notsofatjames
Oct 31, 2007, 10:31 AM
An update re: portable user accounts. There is some stuff in the standard release that i just found (while looking for something completely different)
89464
that was in tiger too. something to do with server based sync. Like microsofts roaming profiles.
benpatient
Oct 31, 2007, 10:53 AM
Today we want to give you a preview of Leopard. First I want to tell you there are some top secret features that we're keeping close to the chest."
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/08/dsc_0484.jpg
he then went on to list the "non-secret" parts of Leopard:
• 64 bit Unix, with 64-bit Carbon (OOPS!) and Cocoa: -1 point for no 64 bit Carbon EVER.
• Time Machine
• Boot Camp
• Expanded Photo Booth
• Spaces
• Spotlight over networks (is this working well? Does it only work with Leopard machines on a network? if so, what's the point, most servers aren't Leopard servers and never will be?)
•Core Animation
•Universal Access: Major Enhancements to Voice Over, Braille, closed captioning, etc
•Enhanced parental controls
• Mail: To-dos, stationary, smart data gathering
• Dashboard: Dashcode and Web Clip
• iChat: iChat Theater, backdrops, multi-user, screen sharing and document sharing
The secret features? Apparently making the finder look like iTunes, plus the most poorly executed idea ever (Stacks).
I wish they had kept that last one a little bit "closer" to the chest. In Steve's gall bladder, maybe?
BillyBobBongo
Oct 31, 2007, 11:19 AM
Time Machine Backups to a network device (ie. Disk hanging off of AEBS or an NAS device).
The forums are buzzing with work arounds. I'm a little surprised Apple pulled this...
There seems to be problems with holding a wireless connection to the Airdisk. I'm sure Apple knew about this and that's why they pulled this feature. I think that once they have this issue resolved we'll see the implementation of Time Machine backups over network devices.
brewno
Oct 31, 2007, 11:25 AM
The Mona Lisa / Ballmer iChat / Photobooth effect...
And the upside down too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Faa_ireNobs
BornAgainMac
Oct 31, 2007, 11:40 AM
The Mona Lisa / Ballmer iChat / Photobooth effect...
And the upside down too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Faa_ireNobs
Don't forget George Washington. I think this feature would have been good for people that are normally camera shy. The upside down gag was funny too with the Coffee.
mkrishnan
Oct 31, 2007, 11:49 AM
Resolution Independence isn't missing.
Can you please post screenshots of what you described?
If things that were rumored are included on the list, then the lack of read/write ZFS I guess belongs there.
samh004
Oct 31, 2007, 12:10 PM
The Mona Lisa / Ballmer iChat / Photobooth effect...
And the upside down too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Faa_ireNobs
Of interest, the upside down effect and a few others not in Photo Booth or iChat are able to be used in Address Book if you take a photo for a contact. Only found them today when adding a photo in for someone else...
An update re: portable user accounts. There is some stuff in the standard release that i just found (while looking for something completely different)
89464
Not asking you specifically xUKHCx, but if I had a copy of Server running in my house on a different machine, does anyone know what this preference would allow me to do ?
Is it a backup feature, or what ? It could keep 2 accounts in sync... really well right ?
jbg232
Oct 31, 2007, 03:46 PM
The secret features? Apparently making the finder look like iTunes, plus the most poorly executed idea ever (Stacks).
I wish they had kept that last one a little bit "closer" to the chest. In Steve's gall bladder, maybe?
That's freaking hilarious (and I agree), although a better place would probably be his colon...
dr_lha
Oct 31, 2007, 04:08 PM
That's freaking hilarious (and I agree), although a better place would probably be his colon...
You're missing the best top secret feature:
Adjustable icon grid spacing! Worth the $129 alone.
mcdj
Oct 31, 2007, 04:39 PM
Being able to sort search results by size, date modified, label, etc. Boo.
stevietheb
Oct 31, 2007, 04:42 PM
-Option in Dock Preferences to toggle between 2D/3D dock.
I know it's not in the prefs, but it can be done:
% defaults write com.apple.dock no-glass -boolean YES
% killall Dock
I got this from John Siracusa's review on ArsTechnica.com (http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/mac-os-x-10-5.ars/1)
xUKHCx
Oct 31, 2007, 04:48 PM
Not asking you specifically xUKHCx, but if I had a copy of Server running in my house on a different machine, does anyone know what this preference would allow me to do ?
Is it a backup feature, or what ? It could keep 2 accounts in sync... really well right ?
I have no experience with server but how about this document (http://images.apple.com/euro/server/macosx/docs/User_Management_v10.5.mnl.pdf) (direct link to a pdf) about page 134.
torpy
Oct 31, 2007, 05:01 PM
Of interest, the upside down effect and a few others not in Photo Booth or iChat are able to be used in Address Book if you take a photo for a contact. Only found them today when adding a photo in for someone else...
Tried them out, turns out these effects are simply filters that are placed on top of a picture of you, it even lets you drag your photo around behind the filter..
Hobofuzz
Nov 1, 2007, 05:19 PM
Can you please post screenshots of what you described?
If things that were rumored are included on the list, then the lack of read/write ZFS I guess belongs there.
It's easy to duplicate.
Just change your screen resolution. System Preferences will still occupy the same amount of screen percentage than it did at the higher resolution.
This doesn't really translate in screenshots.
mechamac
Nov 1, 2007, 05:31 PM
Was there ever an official announcement that Fast OS Switching was ever going to be included in Leopard? I've heard this mentioned around as a missing feature, but I don't recall Apple mentioning it or any subsequent internet/magazine articles about it.
xUKHCx
Nov 1, 2007, 05:32 PM
Was there ever an official announcement that Fast OS Switching was ever going to be included in Leopard? I've heard this mentioned around as a missing feature, but I don't recall Apple mentioning it or any subsequent internet/magazine articles about it.
twas on the apple website briefly.
stcanard
Nov 1, 2007, 05:38 PM
Address book doesn't do Bluetooth anymore.
Seriously?
I daily use a bluetooth connection through iSync to sync Contacts / Appointments / ToDo's to my cell phone.
Does this break in Leopard?
xUKHCx
Nov 1, 2007, 05:41 PM
Seriously?
I daily use a bluetooth connection through iSync to sync Contacts / Appointments / ToDo's to my cell phone.
Does this break in Leopard?
Shouldn't do but it depends on your phone, see here (http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/isync/)
psychofreak
Nov 1, 2007, 05:43 PM
The option for the source list in Finder to be big, like in iTunes and Mail...my Grandad will find this particularly hard...
TheStu
Nov 1, 2007, 05:43 PM
Seriously?
I daily use a bluetooth connection through iSync to sync Contacts / Appointments / ToDo's to my cell phone.
Does this break in Leopard?
No, not at all, there just isn't a button there anymore. You can still sync your phone via iSync.
stcanard
Nov 1, 2007, 05:55 PM
No, not at all, there just isn't a button there anymore. You can still sync your phone via iSync.
Ahh, okay, so the poster meant that there is a bluetooth button that has been removed from Address Book.
That's better then -- since I never noticed it existed, I'm not going to particularly miss it :)
Iggy
Nov 1, 2007, 10:30 PM
Yeah, there was a bluetooth button that let you text and call from your phone through Address Book. Why they would remove this is beyond me. Don't worry, syncing is still there!
One more thing, though. When I use airtunes with my Airport Express there doesn't seem to be an option for "multiple speakers." Is this happening to anyone else?
Flobber88
Nov 1, 2007, 10:52 PM
Some screen savers didn't make their way into Leopard which I saw previews of, they looked pretty cool, though its sad they weren't included.:confused:
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