12-year-old RIAA target settles music swap lawsuit

[MacBytes]

Category: News and Press Releases
Link: 12-year-old RIAA target settles music swap lawsuit (http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/09/09/music.swap.settlement/index.html)

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[dstorey]

I wonder how much if any of this 2 grand will go to the artists she downloaded...i hedge to bet none.

[szumlins]

This is sad...someone needed to defend this kid pro-bono or something. There goes one more 12 year old that will have yet another semester of student loans to pay off in 10 years.

[aarond12]

I'd like to know what the mother was talking about spending $29.99 to "subscribe" to Kazaa... Is there a pro version of Kazaa or something (without popups or advertising)?

[Mr. Anderson]

That's just ridiculous....it comes out to $2 a song! I don't think that 12 year olds should be sued in this case, they're not adults and this is peanuts.

And who is going to get the money?

Blah, totally stupid....

D

[machinehien]

people should forward this story to everyone they know. This is absurd. Well iTunes music store looks like an absolute bargain considering.

[amin]

This was the best possible outcome for the RIAA. If they excused the 12 yo, they pretty much would have put everyone elses cases in jeopardy. If they went to trial with the 12 yo, they would have similarly been headed for trouble.

[Stella]

The real pirates are RIAA themselves.

Cost of music is way too high. Why are tapes far cheaper than Cds when - CDs are cheaper to manufacture - therefore cheaper to buy, and secondly, CDs are cheaper to duplicate?

(Please, correct me if I'm wrong).

And still we pay such a high price.

Some of the blame also lies with Artists - they release a couple of good song on an album, and fill the rest of the album with utter crap. People stop buying poor quality albums, record companies revenue drop - and of course, its the fault of illegal copying - according to RIAA. Never the fault of the record companies, oh no.

Though saying that, Artists get screwed by the record companies. I have more sympthy with artists generally, because they are the ones who lose out when music is copied.

The price of music should be lowered then more people will buy. Unfortunately, this never happens. Same thing everywhere - for example, public transport gets more and more expensive and people stop using them, so in order to recoup the lost revenue - the transport companies hike the prices up further - a downward spiral. The will never dare to take the risks of *lowering* prices to attract customers back.

Greed.

[cc bcc]

the riaa and their razzia.. let bring some true alternatives for illegal downloading first. iTMS doesn't count yet, I can't use it nor can windows users. Other online music stores don't count as alternatives.. Buy a buymusic.com song and you can listen to it as long as you keep that pc, since the drm binds it to the hardware.

[Fender2112]

If the girl did have 1000 songs she was sharing, maybe she's not so innocent, even at 12 years old. She's old enough to know right from wrong.

I also agree with someone's comment about the mother. Parents have to keep tabs on what their kids are doing. I feel this is major problem in the world or at least the US. But that's another topic. ;)

That being said, I also agree that settle was appropiate. It's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. If you do press charges against a 12 year old, it sends one message. If you don't, it send send a totally different message.

Now, having said that. The RIAA needs to get their thumb out of their rear end and come up with some alternative methods of distribution and quit trying to sue everbody. If your not making money selling CD's, don't sell them. Can you say "iTune" ... I can. So can the folks that downloaded 10 million songs and PAID for them. You hear that... it's almost 10 million dollars folks PAID, not stole, swapped or shared. This sends a clear message to RIAA that folks want something different. It tells me that folks are willing to PAY for the good stuff or at least the stuff they like. They are not interested in the crap. We live in a digital world and CD's are not the only way to distribute digital media.

I'm done. Anyone else want to say something? :)

[Jerry Spoon]

$2000 for 1000 songs? She should have only paid 99 cents a song;)

[chadfromdallas]

Originally posted by aarond12
I'd like to know what the mother was talking about spending $29.99 to "subscribe" to Kazaa... Is there a pro version of Kazaa or something (without popups or advertising)?


Theres a version called Kazaa lite. Doesnt have any spyware or pop ups and its free. Dont understand what they were paying for :confused: :confused:

[amin]

Originally posted by chadfromdallas
Theres a version called Kazaa lite. Doesnt have any spyware or pop ups and its free. Dont understand what they were paying for :confused: :confused:

If they're dumb enough to think sharing copyrighted music is legal, they're likely too dumb to know what kazaalite, spyware, or pop-ups are.

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by amin
If they're dumb enough to think sharing copyrighted music is legal, they're likely too dumb to know what kazaalite, spyware, or pop-ups are.

Obviously they thought it was a One Pay deal PAY-SERVICE.

Jesus, they weren't dumb, just misguided.


The Money gained from these lawsuits goes back to the RIAA's Legal Fund (almost) exclusivly, No Artists are making money from the RIAA's Rampage.

[wdlove]

Joyce Mullen of Methuen has her picture on the top of the Boston Globe Business section for September 10th. "Dozens in state face RIAA suits, Recording industry runs risk of raising anger of consumers." Megans Mom is holding the subpoena that was revieved yesterday because of ilegal downloaded misic. "Everyone was doing it, so it was almost notmal to do," she said.

Terrance Fitzgerald whose 14 year old daughter frequently used Kazaa to download perhaps 500 songs said, "It makes me mad that they're shaking up people."

[Genie]

The RIAA really really, stinks like poopie.

I give my music away because I'm nice ;) and I've got enough money, and because those poopieheads running the labels [I know them personally] have ruined the music business anyway, so I'm not losing much.

I think this might be a very good solution:
http://www.nilssonmedia.com/artistsponsor.com

[Mudbug]

yeah - new iTunes campaign

Legal music.
Half price of illegal music.
Get yours today!

stupid RIAA.

[cb911]

Originally posted by Mudbug
yeah - new iTunes campaign

Legal music.
Half price of illegal music.
Get yours today!

stupid RIAA.

LOL!! :D

oh well, now the RIAA has settled this case. it's true it wouldn't have been a good outcome if they just let it slip because she's 12 years old.

there's probably a ton of young kids out there that think they can't get caught because they're young. let this be a lesson to them. they'll just be causing trouble for their parents.

[Marble]

A big middle finger to the RIAA. All this does is teach children that Big Brother is out there, watching you, and waiting to grab you. I really dislike the RIAA, imagine what this new generation of children will think in ten years.

Beating a child is not a good way to teach them anything. There's enough grief in this world, for goodness' sake.

[sjk]

Originally posted by Genie
I think this might be a very good solution:
http://www.nilssonmedia.com/artistsponsor.com And that's an unbiased referral? :)

[Genie]

Originally posted by sjk
And that's an unbiased referral? :)

kinda sorta
:)