Baby forced to smoke cannabis & beaten

[edesignuk]

From BBC Article:
A teenager who forced a baby to smoke cannabis has been sentenced to four-and-a-half years custody.

Michael Carter, 19, put the pipe filled with the drug into the six-month-old girl's mouth at least three times during drug-smoking sessions, Cardiff Crown Court heard.

He also admitted dropping her on the floor, which resulted in a fractured skull and broken ribs.

Prosecutor Hywel Hughes told the court that Carter, of Graig-y-Rhacca, Caerphilly, was a regular user of cannabis.

"He admits putting the pipe holding cannabis into the baby's mouth," he told the court.
Full Article. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3100160.stm)

****ing sick bastard :mad: :rolleyes:

edit: felt the need to curse on this topic :D

[XnavxeMiyyep]

People like this should be locked up for the rest of their lives!:mad:

[ColoJohnBoy]

Why is anybody posting stuff like this on MacRumors? I come here to read about Apple and Macs, not to see topics like "Baby forced to smoke cannabis and beaten." The boy shouldn't have done it. but leave news like this where it belongs. Don't bring it here.

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by ColoJohnBoy
Why is anybody posting stuff like this on MacRumors? I come here to read about Apple and Macs, not to see topics like "Baby forced to smoke cannabis and beaten." The boy shouldn't have done it. but leave news like this where it belongs. Don't bring it here.
Current Events forum description:

"mac, non-mac, news items (provide links please)"

U don't like it? Don't click it! :rolleyes: :p

edit: BTW, have you looked at the current events (http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=40) forum recently? I see maybe one or two Mac related stories on the first page right now, it must be driving you nutz! :eek: :D

[chadfromdallas]

Originally posted by ColoJohnBoy
Why is anybody posting stuff like this on MacRumors? I come here to read about Apple and Macs, not to see topics like "Baby forced to smoke cannabis and beaten." The boy shouldn't have done it. but leave news like this where it belongs. Don't bring it here.

If this board was nothin, but mac talk, it wouldn't be as great as it is. Just do't read it if you don't like it. ;)


Person who did this to their kid should be tied up in chains and dragged behind a truck :eek:

[Mblazened]

he should be dropped on his head

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by Mblazened
he should be dropped on his head
Indeed, I think from the top of Canada Tower (our tallest sky scraper, a mere 50 floors, but I think it'd do the trick!)

[dabirdwell]

I hope people realize that this is an irresponsible person using cannabis rather than thinking that the "REEFER MADNESS" made him do it.

[rainman::|:|]

Originally posted by dabirdwell
I hope people realize that this is an irresponsible person using cannabis rather than thinking that the "REEFER MADNESS" made him do it.

no kidding. thanks to this sick bastard, now people think pot is even *more* dangerous, when in reality, it's just stupidity that's dangerous.

can't we bring back stonings for people like this? it would be poetic justice.

pnw

[TEG]

He should be dropped from the CN Tower. The tallest freestanding structure in the world.

TEG

[chadfromdallas]

Originally posted by paulwhannel
can't we bring back stonings for people like this? it would be poetic justice.

pnw


Actually...in the middle east.....ah nevermind ;)

[medea]

Originally posted by ColoJohnBoy
Why is anybody posting stuff like this on MacRumors? I come here to read about Apple and Macs, not to see topics like "Baby forced to smoke cannabis and beaten." The boy shouldn't have done it. but leave news like this where it belongs. Don't bring it here.
Um maybe you havn't been paying attention, but this is the Current Events section, try reading the description: "mac, non-mac, news items (provide links please)"

Back to the topic, that is a horribly stupid thing to do and deserves more than a mere four and a half years in custody, reckless endangerment of children should be dealt with much harsher. If the Govt. was ever looking for a poster child on why not to smoke weed......

[tazo]

Yeah and people say there is nothing wrong with smoking canabis. yeaaaaah right. hopefully this sicko will get all that he can punishment wise.

May some inmate take pity inside him.

[mactastic]

If only there were minimum competency levels for having kids. What a jerk.

[mactastic]

Originally posted by tazo
Yeah and people say there is nothing wrong with smoking canabis. yeaaaaah right. hopefully this sicko will get all that he can punishment wise.

May some inmate take pity inside him.

Oh yeah, smoking weed causes you to abuse children, I forgot the drug czar's office had issued that proclamation.:rolleyes:

[tazo]

Originally posted by mactastic
Oh yeah, smoking weed causes you to abuse children, I forgot the drug czar's office had issued that proclamation.:rolleyes:

People say there are no ill effects of marijuana use...I am sure there are plenty of similar situations like this one where a marijuana user has abused and or neglected their baby.

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by XnavxeMiyyep
People like this should be locked up for the rest of their lives!:mad:


No, people like this need to be shot in the head so that those that live in peace can do so.

[applemacdude]

That Bastard! Not only did he make the baby smoke but he/she also droped it ! Only six months old. Don't people have compassion anymore? Don't they care about little cute babies? Don't they care about cute lttle kittin's ?

BASTARD!!!

[beez7777]

"Hugh Wallace, defending, said Carter was "reckless" but did not intend to harm the baby. "

is that a joke? gimme a friggin break. :mad:

[tazo]

Originally posted by beez7777
"Hugh Wallace, defending, said Carter was "reckless" but did not intend to harm the baby. "

is that a joke? gimme a friggin break. :mad:

hey if people were willing to say they would defend bin laden and call him misunderstood, then why not become a lawyer and call child abusers "reckless" ?:rolleyes:

[Durandal7]

Originally posted by tazo
People say there are no ill effects of marijuana use...I am sure there are plenty of similar situations like this one where a marijuana user has abused and or neglected their baby.

And I am sure that there is a far higher incidence of people on alcohol abusing their babies.

Do you think the US should return to prohibition?

[amin]

Originally posted by tazo
People say there are no ill effects of marijuana use...I am sure there are plenty of similar situations like this one where a marijuana user has abused and or neglected their baby.

I'm just as sure there are plenty of similar situations where a non-marijuana user has abused and or neglected their baby.

There are ill effects of marijuana abuse (cancer, etc), but baby abuse is not one of them.

[tazo]

Originally posted by Durandal7
And I am sure that there is a far higher incidence of people on alcohol abusing their babies.

Do you think the US should return to prohibition?

Yes.

Alcohol ruins lives.

So does smoking.

Marijuana is no different from the aforementioned two.

The proponents of those drugs are kidding themselves! What do these drugs do that are positive? Oh, marijuana can allegedly cure glaucoma, and other eye-related diseases. Great! So lets develop medicines to fight/treat glaucoma, that don't induce pseudo-psychotic breakdowns by individuals under their influence that are conducive to "reckless" acts of child abuse.

Alcohol kills THOUSANDS every day with drunk driving, or alcohol-related domestic violence etc. Hell we as a nation have lowered murder caused by a vehicle to a mere "vehicular homicide" charge. Which is often reduced to manslaughter if the individual has a great lawyer.

Smoking? Well how many MORE people must die of lung cancer, and how many more teens must become addicted and die young(er) before we as a nation put a stop to the stuff?

Marijuana? If you don't know the risks of marijuana then why have you read this far? The real risk of marijuana is not even associated with the drug itself. It's born in the myth most people contain that marijuana has no ill effects.

In and of itself that is a lie.

I say ban smoking, marijuana use, and drinking. Nothing but death results via their usage.


Originally posted by Amin
I'm just as sure there are plenty of similar situations where a non-marijuana user has abused and or neglected their baby.

I never denied that alcoholics often abuse their children in the midst of their drinking tendencies, what I was trying to imply was that its even more sinister when marijuana is involved.

This is due to the fact that their is a great myth that marijuana has no ill effects, while it is obvious that many people know the dangers of alcohol.

We always hear about cocaine and crack babies, or babies born with AIDs, and yet when a "parent" abuses their kid under the influence of cocaine, or another heavy drug we are shocked! Amazed at how the individual could commit such a heinous crime as child abuse. The same goes for crimes committed under the influence of alcohol.

Yet when the same thing happens under the influence of marijuana the only thing that happens is people say the individual was reckless.

We never hear about cases of marijuana users abusing their kids because it is just considered child abuse.

Just child abuse.

That is what makes marijuana such a sinister and vile object: the fact that people think it is not so.

[Pinto]

Although smoking cannabis does have some dangers, they are less than alcohol or tobacco.

Although dropping a baby on it's head can cause brain damage, in some situations smoking cannabis can protect the brain from damage (I kid you not).

[tazo]

Originally posted by Pinto
Although smoking cannabis does have some dangers, they are less than alcohol or tobacco.

Although dropping a baby on it's head can cause brain damage, in some situations smoking cannabis can protect the brain from damage (I kid you not).

However I would venture to say that the thought that it is harmless is more damaging.

[edesignuk]

Hmmmm....this has been moved to "Political Discussions & War Discussion"? Fine...

[Pinto]

Originally posted by tazo
However I would venture to say that the thought that it is harmless is more damaging.

Please explain how "thinking" something is harmless, makes it more damaging than the actual physical harm created.

[Daveman Deluxe]

If you think something is harmless, you will use it far more often. However, if you think it is harmful, you are not nearly as likely to use it.

The ignorance of the potential danger is what allows you to use the product in the first place.

If people knew there is formaldehyde in their mayonaise (calcium disodium EDTA) and salad dressing (using Best Foods and Kraft as the examples here), they would most likely think twice before eating them.

[shadowfax]

tazo, don't be an idiot. banning drugs--particularly alcohol and cigarettes--only increases the problems they cause. did you not read about the 1920s?

eating too much chocolate can kill you, can make you a far more dangerous projectile in a car wreck. we should ban chocolate. and fast food restaurants. they make people fat, ugly, and undesirable.

no. that's pathetic. anything taken to the extreme is terrible. alcohol is not intrinsically bad. allowing yourself to get addicted is, of course. drunkenness is dangerous. but alcohol is very pleasurable in moderation. have you never had a sip of it? your stomach feels like it's radiating, and a shudder of comforting warmth goes through your body. is that bad?

come on. if you sit there and eat ice cream all day, and only ice cream, it will drive you insane from the headaches that it will induce, not to mention make you obese.

getting addicted to anything is bad. that doesn't mean we should ban anything that can be addictive (like this site).

banning marijuana is what makes it so much worse. teens try it because it's thrilling to do something you're not supposed to. the same thing happens with prohibition. and with kids who grow up never allowed sweets. the very restriction of something actually elicits intemperance.

make no mistake--this man's crimes cannot be blamed on marijuana in the very least. marijuana in that sense is a tool of worthless human beings to escape and export the filth that is their own perversion.

there are people in this world, tazo, that look just the same as you and me, that don't need drugs to drop their children and forget them in the car in 105 degree weather for 6 hours. people that can assure you

2 and 2 always makes 5.

[K4NN4B15]

Pot isnt dangerous because people think its harmless. Its dangerous because people think its dangerous. Nobody smokes a joint and goes into a violent rage and beats their children or their wife. Nobody wraps their car around a telephone pole because they were stoned. Nobody spends all of their money to satisfy their addiction to weed and starve to death and beg for cigarettes and change on the corner. You might end up getting emphazima, but thats about it. However, they DO loose their jobs, they DO go to jail, and so on. Its the myth that it is dangerous that screws people over, not visa versa.

But why legalize it when you can make(spend, its the same thing for the us government) billions of dollars and thousands of jobs fighting this great "plauge", and insurance/pharmseutical companies can force zoloft or ritalin whatever down everyones throat. And dont forget industrial hemp and all of the big corperations that it would be able to compete with. Oil companies for one...

you can say "oh look! it is dangerous just look at the headline!", but please.. This guy was a moron. There are plenty of morons who dont smoke weed too.