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I think the Santa Rosa MacBook Pros started to arrive a month after release. I would expect the MacBooks to do the same.
 
Hard to say

Could depend on how many flaws the first batch have 😱

Like the previous poster said, refurb SR macbook pros came out relatively soon after the SR chipset was released, same for core2 minis, but the Aluminum iMacs, which have been out for months, have just been added to the refurb store.

Guess you just have to play the waiting game.
 
If they do the usual $101 off on black friday, that won't be much more than the refurb price, at least for the cheapest model. Tho you have a chance at getting free extra ram in refurbs. I've heard something about a $100 off with american express which might be combinable.
 
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