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Doctor Q
Sep 21, 2003, 09:47 PM
One week from today, the third season of Alias (http://abc.go.com/primetime/alias/index.html) begins, Sunday nights on ABC. Stars: Jennifer Garner, Michael Vartan, Victor Garber. Eleven Emmy nominations two years in a row.

Good-looking actors, lots of action, intrigue, double-crosses, plot twists, mysteries, daring spy operations, and of course James Bond style gadgets. Sometimes a little silly, but always fun. And series creator J.J. Abrams is a Macintosh fan, so he's obviously a good guy.

Who's a returning fan? Who hasn't watched it before but might give it a try?



MrMacMan
Sep 21, 2003, 10:32 PM
Returning Fan.

:D

2 Years later... ech, too much would happen in 2 whole years AND Only a Few Days After 'the world would end'!

:(

Doctor Q
Sep 22, 2003, 01:51 AM
Alias won two more Emmy awards tonight. Here's the two-year record:

--- 2002 Emmy awards ---

Winner for:
Outstanding Art Direction - Single Camera Series
Outstanding Cinematography - Single Camera Series

Also nominated for:
Outstanding Lead Actress - Drama Series (Jennifer Garner)
Outstanding Supporting Actor - Drama Series (Victor Garber)
Outstanding Casting - Drama Series
Outstanding Costumes - Series
Outstanding Single Camera Editing - Series
Outstanding Hairstyling - Series
Outstanding Makeup (non-prosthetic) - Series
Outstanding Stunt Coordination
Outstanding Writing - Drama Series

--- 2003 Emmy awards ---

Winner for:
Outstanding Makeup (non-prosthetic) - Series
Outstanding Stunt Coordination

Also nominated for:
Outstanding Lead Actress - Drama Series (Jennifer Garner)
Outstanding Supporting Actor - Drama Series (Victor Garber)
Outstanding Supporting Actress - Drama Series (Lena Olin)
Outstanding Cinematography - Single Camera Series
Outstanding Costumes - Series
Outstanding Single Camera Editing - Series
Outstanding Hairstyling - Series
Outstanding Sound Editing - Series
Outstanding Art Direction - Single Camera Series

arn
Sep 22, 2003, 02:24 AM
I'm an alias fan. Quite a cliffhanger last season.

:)

arn

sketchy
Sep 22, 2003, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Doctor Q

Who's a returning fan?

My wife and I *love* Alias. Tivo is already set to get it. number one on the list.

I read some spoilers in Entertainment Weekly.

Bad Dave

Veldek
Sep 22, 2003, 11:43 AM
I watched whole season 1 and liked it a lot. Here in Germany, we still have to wait for the second season. Even "24" is just running in it's first season... :(

wdlove
Sep 22, 2003, 02:59 PM
I'm a returning fan. Great action and story. Jennifer Garner is a great actress!

MacFan25
Sep 22, 2003, 04:24 PM
I started watching last season. I enjoyed the few episodes that I did see.

I plan on watching it some more this season, though. :)

Doctor Q
Sep 22, 2003, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by Veldek
I watched whole season 1 and liked it a lot. Here in Germany, we still have to wait for the second season. Even "24" is just running in it's first season... :( It seems to me that they would have been clever to release the Season 2 DVD in time to help with publicity for the start of season 3. But I read that the "Alias - The Complete Second Season" DVD is not scheduled for release until December 2, 2003.

MrMacMan
Sep 22, 2003, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Veldek
I watched whole season 1 and liked it a lot. Here in Germany, we still have to wait for the second season. Even "24" is just running in it's first season... :(


How did you think of Alias's Interpretation of Germany?

It seems way more techonlogically advanced on TV then in real life (Well, then again I was there 5 years ago)...



Do you see it in english or German?

Doctor Q
Sep 25, 2003, 09:15 PM
Tentative episode names and schedule for the first 6 episodes of Alias season 3:

"The Two" (premiere), Sunday, September 28, 2003
"Succession", Sunday, October 5, 2003
"Reunion", Sunday, October 12, 2003
"A Missing Link", Sunday, October 19, 2003
"Repercussions", Sunday, October 26, 2003
"The Nemesis", not yet scheduled

janey
Sep 25, 2003, 09:54 PM
wow i didnt see this thread :)
i got season one on dvd :)
hehe...cant wait for the season premiere...

WHY DOES EVERYONE IGNORE MARSHALL HE's like the poor little cute genius geek dude that nobody appreciates :(

Doctor Q
Sep 25, 2003, 11:09 PM
I seem to remember that Marshall had a girlfriend at the end of season two. Since two years have gone by, he has probably gotten up the nerve to take her out for coffee at least a few times. "Um, would you like to, I mean, maybe, well, I guess you wouldn't, but if you like coffee, I like coffee, we could maybe go to did you know they built a new Starbucks down the block, I think it's next to the cleaners, the one named Johnson's, they did a good job on my shirts, so we could go if we finish, I mean finish our work, I think, OK?"

MrMacMan
Sep 25, 2003, 11:39 PM
So true Doctor Q.

You are right like 2 days after 'doomsday' to have sushi, yeah.

A lot of stuff must have happened in 2 years its gonna be really weird...

pyrotoaster
Sep 26, 2003, 12:02 AM
I'm a returning fan, and I can't wait for the new season.

Talk about a strange cliff hanger, though. It'll be interesting to see how they tie everything together. But I'm sure they'll find some way for it all to make sense. The show's got great writing that isn't afraid of taking chances and making changes (like "Evil Francie" and getting rid of SD-6).

Edit: BTW, I was in Australia over the summer and they were airing "new" episodes from the beginning of season two.

Doctor Q
Sep 26, 2003, 12:10 AM
-----

#1 show I want to watch this season: Alias, Sunday nights, 9-10pm.

#2 show I want to watch this season: Carnivŕle, Sunday nights, 9-10pm.

Murphy's Law?

-----

I've collected some Alias trivia tidbits (no, not spoilers - we should avoid them in these forums). Here are a few:

* Ron Rifkin, who plays Arlin Sloane, read for the Jack Bristow part. J.J. Abrams wanted him for Sloane instead.

* Kevin Weisman helped invent his own character, Marshall, who J.J. had originally envisioned as an ex-hippie hacker, more like Neo than the James Bond-type Q character.

* Bradley Cooper's character, Will Tippin, learned about Sydney's secret life because of... fan reaction! People didn't like Will in Season 1 because Sydney was threatened by his reporter investigation. So the writers changed the story to make us happy. Hey, maybe J.J. is reading this thread right now and will do whatever the next person who posts asks!

Doctor Q
Sep 27, 2003, 01:33 AM
More Alias trivia! (Part of my plan to build up interest for the new season and be rewarded with a job on the show as Kevin Weisman's new technical advisor.)

* The character of Milo Rambaldi is a tribute to Carlo Rambaldi (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0708058/), the designer of E.T. (http://www.cinefex.com/et/images/05.html) and other special effects (http://www.giffoniff.it/2002/rambaldi01.gif).

* The symbol <0> is the sign of the "Magnific Order of Rambaldi". This symbol is shown in one frame of the opening credits, right before the word Alias appears.

* The Season 1 story line about the missing page 47 of the Rambaldi manuscript was only one of the references to Alias's favorite number: 47. There are reportedly 47s in every episode. For example, in Season 2 Episode 13, "Phase One", Sloane's secrets are said to be stored in a computer: server number 47. (That's the episode that immediately followed the Super Bowl XXXVII and brought in a bunch of new fans, probably more for Jennifer's costumes than for the ongoing plot.)

* The bio of Milo Rambaldi, who lived to be 52 (hmmm, not 47!), says he invented a "machine code" in the 15th century. Did it eventually evolve into the Power Mac G5? They don't say!

MrMacMan
Sep 27, 2003, 01:40 PM
Intresting.


I don't think I can see an 'ex-hippie hacker' though!

'Like, Dude, I totally Cracked the Server Man!'

;)

Doctor Q
Sep 27, 2003, 07:37 PM
One more day to go, so there's time for a few more trivia facts:

* In Season 1, Esisode 10 ("Spirit"), Jack is ordered to shoot Sydney by arms dealer Ineni Hassan in Cuba. The scene was actually shot in the abandoned Ambassador Hotel (http://www.seeing-stars.com/Hotels/Ambassador.shtml) in Los Angeles, which was the site of the very first Academy Awards ceremony on May 16, 1929, and was also the hotel in which Robert F. Kennedy was shot on June 4, 1968.

* In Season 2, Episode 7 ("Counteragent"), the character of Marshall says "Do you know that polar bears can't be detected by infrared photography? Their fur emits no heat. Nothing. Nada. Zip." This fact is true (http://www.polarbearsalive.org/facts3.php).

* The character of Marcus Dixon is red-green colorblind (http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/ency/color_blindness.html) in his left eye. This means that one eye doesn't distinguish colors as well as the other (not that it sees only in black and white). Colorblindness in one eye, like total lack of color vision (http://www.achromat.org/what_is_achromatopsia.html), is rare.

* All Rambaldi artwork on the show is drawn by artist Andrea Dietrich. Here's a sample (http://www.dearsally.org/alias/images/seasonone/1467_device_rambaldi.jpg) of her work. (I think it's a design for the Power Mac G5 fan system.)

* Michael Va{ugh,rta}n: separated at birth? According to the show bios, the character of Michael Vaughn is a male Caucasian, 6'0", 180 pounds, speaks English and French, and grew up in Fleury, Normandy, France. His character dated Sydney Bristow. Actor Michael Vartan is a male Caucasian, 6'0", 180 pounds, speaks English and French, and grew up in Fleury, Normandy, France. The actor has reported dated Jennifer Garner. Could there be a more amazing coincidence?

MrMacMan
Sep 27, 2003, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by Doctor Q

* The character of Marcus Dixon is red-green colorblind (http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/ency/color_blindness.html) in his left eye. This means that one eye doesn't distinguish colors as well as the other (not that it sees only in black and white). Colorblindness in one eye, like total lack of color vision (http://www.achromat.org/what_is_achromatopsia.html), is rare.


Where did you get *that* from?

I don't remember any Time where he only used 1 eye and couldn't tell the colors!

:confused:

Doctor Q
Sep 28, 2003, 12:28 AM
I don't remember them mentioning Dixon's colorblindess in an episode. I got this detail from his bio (http://abc.go.com/primetime/alias/profiles/sd6_dixon.html), which is posted at ABC's main Alias site and is also on the DVD that comes with Alias Declassified (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0553375970/qid=1064720582/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/103-0005174-5321473?v=glance&s=books&n=507846), a book by Mark Cotta Vaz.

Doctor Q
Sep 28, 2003, 05:51 PM
Good short article (http://www.vartanho.com/articles/2003/wheredidtimego.html) containing an interview with J.J. Abrams about the evolution of the characters and story.We needed to adjust for time in order to tell the story with Sloane we wanted to tell. Given where he was and given where he is, it was something we could have watched happen, but it would have been a lot less interesting than getting him there and telling the story once he was there.

...

It's not that you needed to go two years in advance to do these things, but it gave you the carte blanche to say, 'What can happen to someone in two years?'

...

Yes, we've rocked the boat, but the ride to come will prove that it was worth it.

Doctor Q
Sep 28, 2003, 06:18 PM
Ready for more trivia? Here are the languages spoken by the characters in Season 1 and Season 2:

Sydney Bristow: Arabic, Cantonese, English, French, German, Hungarian, Indonesian, Italian, Japanese, Portuguese, Romanian, Russian, Spanish, Urdu, Uzbek

Jack Bristow: English, Ukrainian

Francie Calfo (now Allison Doren): English

Irina Derevko: English, Russian, Thai

Marcus Dixon: Cantonese, English, French, Greek, Hebrew, Uzbek

Marshall Flinkman: English, Ewok (yes, I mean Ewok!)

Sark: English, Indonesian, Japanese, Spanish

Arvin Sloane: English, French, Japanese

Will Tippin: English

Michael Vaughn: English, French, Italian

Eric Weiss: English, German

MrMacMan
Sep 28, 2003, 06:27 PM
Okay Doc Q.

I request what episode Sydney Spoke all those languages in!


;)

Especially Urdu and English

zach
Sep 28, 2003, 06:38 PM
alias tonight! yay.

Me watching.

Doctor Q
Sep 28, 2003, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
I request what episode Sydney Spoke all those languages in!

;)

Especially Urdu and English OK, I'll see your ;) ...

Arabic (1.2), Cantonese (1.1), English (1.*,2.*), French (1.21,2.1,2.12), German (1.5,2.14,2.21), Hungarian (2.5), Indonesian (1.20), Italian (1.8,1.16), Japanese (2.7), Portuguese (1.5), Romanian (1.6), Russian (1.2,1.3,1.15,2.4), Spanish (1.3,2.20), Urdu (2.9), Uzbek (2.8).

(n.m) = Season n, Episode m

Urdu was in Season 2 Episode 9, "Passage".

and raise you one:

Let's see you answer this question: Which Alias character hates coffee ice cream? ;)

Vector
Sep 28, 2003, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
OK, I'll see your ;) ...

Arabic (1.2), Cantonese (1.1), English (1.*,2.*), French (1.21,2.1,2.12), German (1.5,2.14,2.21), Hungarian (2.5), Indonesian (1.20), Italian (1.8,1.16), Japanese (2.7), Portuguese (1.5), Romanian (1.6), Russian (1.2,1.3,1.15,2.4), Spanish (1.3,2.20), Urdu (2.9), Uzbek (2.8).

(n.m) = Season n, Episode m

Urdu was in Season 2 Episode 9, "Passage".

and raise you one:

Let's see you answer this question: Which Alias character hates coffee ice cream? ;)

Impressive research.

Francie hates coffee ice cream.

MrMacMan
Sep 28, 2003, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
OK, I'll see your ;) ...

Arabic (1.2), Cantonese (1.1), English (1.*,2.*), French (1.21,2.1,2.12), German (1.5,2.14,2.21), Hungarian (2.5), Indonesian (1.20), Italian (1.8,1.16), Japanese (2.7), Portuguese (1.5), Romanian (1.6), Russian (1.2,1.3,1.15,2.4), Spanish (1.3,2.20), Urdu (2.9), Uzbek (2.8).

(n.m) = Season n, Episode m

Urdu was in Season 2 Episode 9, "Passage".

and raise you one:

Let's see you answer this question: Which Alias character hates coffee ice cream? ;)

Well we know Allison Doren Didn't like Coffee (well atleast untill she remembered she was suppose to hate it)

Francie Calfo

Originally posted by Vector
Impressive research.

Francie hates coffee ice cream.


Indeed you are correct, but he did address the question to me... :rolleyes:

pyrotoaster
Sep 28, 2003, 08:31 PM
Only half an hour left! :D

Here's another piece of trivia:
J.J. Abrams doesn't like having evil characters use Macs. He only wants the "good guys" to have 'em (like Syd and her iPod).

MrMacMan
Sep 28, 2003, 09:08 PM
GOGOGGO!

Everyone on EST go watch!

Doctor Q
Sep 28, 2003, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by pyrotoaster
Here's another piece of trivia:
J.J. Abrams doesn't like having evil characters use Macs. He only wants the "good guys" to have 'em (like Syd and her iPod). Just like in real life - good guys use Macs!

Actually, J.J. has trouble with this habit because you can't always tell who's a good guy and who isn't. I guess Irina is the biggest unknown, and it'd be no fun if we could tell whose side she's on simply by noting her computer model.

MrMacMan
Sep 29, 2003, 12:07 AM
Wow.

That was a killer Eps.

Wow... nice.

Doctor Q
Sep 29, 2003, 02:39 AM
A bunch of surprises! They certainly got the action started quickly. I wonder how soon we'll see Francie, I mean Allison. And Will. And Sark.

Ulp! I don't see Lena Olin listed in the case at ABC's website (http://abc.com/primetime/alias/). I sure hope she's back as Irina.

wdlove
Sep 29, 2003, 03:40 PM
That was a great season premiere IMHO. I enjoyed every action packed moment. Glad that Sydney was able to get her father out of prison. Hopefully over the season she can unravel the lost 2 years!

Doctor Q
Sep 29, 2003, 08:51 PM
Random thoughts:

* In Season 1, Sydney was learning about her father's history. In Season 2, Sydney was learning about her mother's history. In Season 3, Sydney is learning about her own history!

* It looks Sydney was a naughty girl during those 2 years. If she was programmed, "Manchurian Candidate"-style, I wonder if she's still programmed? Maybe they need that agency psychiatrist to look into it.

* I have a theory why Sydney has a scar on her side. I think whoever took her two years ago removed something from her body and left it in the fire, so her DNA would be identified. An appendectomy? A piece of bone? (What do you think, wdlove?)

* Did anyone notice any Mac or PC computers by brand? I was too busy with the story to notice such details.

* Congrats to Marshall and what's-her-name. And Dixon for his promotion.

MrMacMan
Sep 29, 2003, 11:29 PM
Indeed.

BTW... Weren't there like 5 people before Dixion to get the head position?

I mean really there were like 2-3 guys that had a higher position...

Marshall is having problems with the mother of the baby... :o

No computer sightings...

she needs psyco-analyzes...

Did Sloane use her during that time?

And is 'Peace' Such a hard concept?

:confused:

Doctor Q
Sep 29, 2003, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Weren't there like 5 people before Dixion to get the head position?It could be merit based. He seems qualified to me. Of course, he once cheated on a drug test, so maybe he cheated on his civil service advancement test.Did Sloane use her during that time?He must have, otherwise he wouldn't be the bad guy we love to hate.And is 'Peace' Such a hard concept?Who said it was 'Peace'? It could have been 'Piece' or even 'Peas'!

scaryperson
Oct 5, 2003, 08:43 AM
One thing on the Va[ugh,arta]n coincidence, why not make up Vaughn a new bio? Wierd.
I really don't see how Will and Francie can be alive, they both looked dead.
And Syd was being a slight hypocrit when she said that if it was her in Vaughns shoes she'd have waited, as, how long did she wait with Danny?
JJ Abrams has a hell of a lot of questions to answer, I'm confused over everything that's happening :confused:

Still love it ofcourse :D

And, the page in the rambaldi book Syd had to get was 47, Marshall wanted the camera that was at 42 shots to be at 47 as that's prime, server 47 was on a boing 747 They really like that number, it's creepy.

pyrotoaster
Oct 5, 2003, 12:16 PM
Will's alive but missing. Finding him will probably be part of this season's plot. Francie (the real one or the evil one), on the other hand, is dead. Real Francie was shot in the head, and A.G. Doren looked dead at the end of last season's finale.

I really want to know what happened to Syd's mom, though. Lena Olin isn't in the opening credits anymore.
Originally posted by MrMacman
And is 'Peace' Such a hard concept?
For Sloane, yes.

MrMacMan
Oct 5, 2003, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
Who said it was 'Peace'? It could have been 'Piece' or even 'Peas'!
I really thought Sloane sayied the word displayied was 'Peace' was a I wrong?

:confused:

Originally posted by pyrotoaster

For Sloane, yes.
Hehe yes.

Doctor Q
Oct 5, 2003, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by scaryperson
One thing on the Va[ugh,arta]n coincidence, why not make up Vaughn a new bio? Wierd.
Welcome to MacRumors, scaryperson. I see this is your first post.

I have no proof that it isn't merely a coincidence, but I remember seeing a Bill Tippin among the technical credits in the first season. I wonder if they got Will Tippin's name from him? I couldn't find any more such coincidences for other character names, except for Milo Rambaldi being named after Carlo Rambaldi, as I mentioned above.

Originally posted by pyrotoaster
A.G. Doren looked dead at the end of last season's finale.As I remember it, Sydney shot Allison in the shoulders, so I'm sure she's still in the game. I guess whoever took Sydney 2 years ago after that battle might have taken Will as well. That kid just can't seem to stay out of trouble, can he?

MrMacMan
Oct 5, 2003, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by Doctor Q As I remember it, Sydney shot Allison in the shoulders, so I'm sure she's still in the game. I guess whoever took Sydney 2 years ago after that battle might have taken Will as well. That kid just can't seem to stay out of trouble, can he? [/B]

No way she was alive...

She was shot like what 3 times?

Left Shoulder.. right shoulder... and somewhere else, those were *gapping* wholes.

/me thinks sydney used A Deagle... the blood loss alone could kill, if she survived!

:eek:

Doctor Q
Oct 5, 2003, 04:23 PM
I dug up some more trivia. Sydney has been on missions to the following 41 countries:

Algeria, Argentina, Australia, Austria, Brazil, Columbia, Crete, Cuba, Czechoslovakia, Dominican Republic, Egypt, England, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Italy, Japan, Kenya, Madagascar, Mexico, Morocco, Panama, Poland, Romania, Russia, South Africa, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Tunisia, United States, Uzbekistan, Vietnam

and two areas that are not technically countries:

Kashmir, Siberia

Apparently nothing spy-related ever happens in close-by Canada!

She has yet to go on missions to any countries starting with the letters L, N, O, Q ( :( ), W, X, or Y, or Z. If she wanted to rectify this, she could go to these countries:

L: Lao People's Democratic Republic, Latvia, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, or Luxembourg

N: Namibia, Nauru, New Caledonia, Nepal, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria, or Norway

O (only one choice): Oman

Q (only one choice): Qatar

Y (only one choice): Yemen (or, formerly, Yugoslavia)

Z: Zaire, Zambia, Zimbabwe

I know of no countries starting with W or X!

MrMacMan
Oct 5, 2003, 04:41 PM
Intresting she has never been to the U.K.


And for all intensive purpose Hong Kong is now part of China. (And yeah she has been to china outside of hong kong)

So please fix that... :p

Doctor Q
Oct 5, 2003, 05:16 PM
Yes, Sir! Hong Kong is now removed. I also checked to see whether she was in India-controlled Kashmir or Pakistan-controlled Kashmir, in case Pakistan should be in the list. The answer is that she was in New Delhi (in India proper) in Season 2, Episode 8 and in Srinigar (in India-controlled Kashmir) in the following episode. So she hasn't been to Pakistan.

Sydney has been on missions to the following 40 countries:

Algeria, Argentina, Australia, Austria, Brazil, Columbia, Crete, Cuba, Czechoslovakia, Dominican Republic, Egypt, England, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Italy, Japan, Kenya, Madagascar, Mexico, Morocco, Panama, Poland, Romania, Russia, South Africa, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Tunisia, United States, Uzbekistan, Vietnam

She has been to the U.K. Note that England is in the list. No missions to Ireland, Scotland, or Wales yet.

Doctor Q
Oct 6, 2003, 01:21 AM
An observation: In both last week's and this week's episodes, we see the surveillance tape where Sydney (or a lookalike) apparently kills Andrian Lazarey. Did you notice that the surveillance camera zooms in on Sydney's pocket as she reaches for a knife? An unmanned hidden camera would not have anticipated her move. I see three possibilities:

1. The camera was manned by someone who was very observant and somehow predicted her move, following her hand as she reached into her pocket.

2. The tape was doctored after the hidden camera took it or was faked in the first place, so the zoom was used to purposely emphasize Sydney's move.

3. The zoom-in was a mistake in the Alias episode film direction and means nothing in the plot.

#1 seems unlikely. #3 would be disappointing. I'll go with #2.

Edit: Typo corrected.

wdlove
Oct 6, 2003, 12:30 PM
I found last night's episode to be very interesting. That Sidney got another piece of the puzzle, prior to the death of the scientist. "I was never able to break you."

MrMacMan
Oct 6, 2003, 01:13 PM
'Doctor Q, I think it's number 2!'

Okay, I think it is really number 3 I couldn't hole back on the rhyme... ;)

I think it is the only connection to syd... the terrorist organization and her disappearance for 2 years.

How else can they be connected?

:confused:

Vector
Oct 6, 2003, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by wdlove
I found last night's episode to be very interesting. That Sidney got another piece of the puzzle, prior to the death of the scientist. "I was never able to break you."

i thought he said "you were my favorite. you never broke."

scaryperson
Oct 11, 2003, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Vector
i thought he said "you were my favorite. you never broke."
yup, he did say that, maybe that's to do with rambaldi and the drawing of "Syd"
When the camera zoomed in on syd killing Lazaray, was it only me who noticed the rather pregnant look to her stomach?
Sark must have some part to Syd's disappearance, how else does she wind up killing his father and inheriting 800M I really don't believe it's all the Covenant, and Sloane has to be something to do with it.

pyrotoaster
Oct 12, 2003, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by scaryperson
Sark must have some part to Syd's disappearance, how else does she wind up killing his father and inheriting 800M I really don't believe it's all the Covenant, and Sloane has to be something to do with it.
Nah, Sark had nothing to do with it. He didn't even know he had inherited any money.

Sloane on the other hand... ;)

Doctor Q
Oct 12, 2003, 03:51 PM
Jack's instant message chat with Irina, complete with computer-generated voice, was really cheesy. It looks like an unfortunate attempt to keep her character in the story without requiring (expensive) actress Lena Olin.

pyrotoaster
Oct 12, 2003, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
Jack's instant message chat with Irina, complete with computer-generated voice, was really cheesy. It looks like an unfortunate attempt to keep her character in the story without requiring (expensive) actress Lena Olin.
It was cheesy, but it worked. It'll have to do until they can find some way to get Lena back.

Doctor Q
Oct 19, 2003, 02:11 PM
Here are some anagrams I found. Are any of them secret messages to us from J.J. Abrams?

Sydney Bristow:
Wry destiny... sob!
Dirty newsboys.
Wry deity snobs.
Dry boys, wet sin.
Worst by Disney!

Jack Bristow:
Was Brit jock.

Arvin Sloane:
Lose Nirvana.
None as rival.
Vain as loner.
Non-real Visa.
Vino arsenal.

Michael Vaughn:
Lug can have him.

Marcus Dixon:
Coax in drums.

Eric Weiss:
"Wee" crisis!

I didn't find any revealing anagrams for Will Tippin (the dirty newsboy?), Marshall Flinkman, or other characters.

janey
Oct 19, 2003, 10:07 PM
last sunday's episode regarding Medusa...OMFG SLOANE HAS A 17" POWERBOOK!!!

i'm waiting patiently. Alias will be on in less than two hours here on the west coast, and i will not miss it again. Had to bittorrent the last one because i was with josh that night and came back home after it was over.

Doctor Q
Oct 20, 2003, 09:45 PM
A few more anagrams, supplied by others:

Will Tippin:
Pill pin wit.

Irina Derevko:
Dine oak river.

Laura Bristow:
As burrow tail.
Aw, rub oil, rats.
Bar us, toil war.
Brat row ail us.
Broil USA wart.
Brow lust aria.
I rub a rat, owls.
Law bar suitor.
Ow, rub lariats.
Roar, wail, bust.
Sailor but war.
Wail, row, rub at.
Wait, blur, soar.

MrMacMan
Oct 20, 2003, 10:38 PM
Doctor Q:
________
Much To Much Time On Hands
To Much Time on Alias
God-Of-Watching-Alias
Probably-Has-Every-EPS-On-Tape.


:p ;)

Doctor Q
Oct 21, 2003, 12:10 AM
Nice anagrams, MrMacman, except where are the letter Q's? Are you sure these are anagrams?

Originally posted by MrMacman
Much To Much Time On HandsYou are right. I should probably walk on my feet instead of my hands.
To Much Time on AliasWell, at least it gets me off MacRumors for one hour a week.
God-Of-Watching-AliasSince I'm a secret agent myself, the time I spend watching Alias is actually a business deduction.
Probably-Has-Every-EPS-On-Tape.Not a one, as a matter of fact. I only watch it live. After all, VCR tapes can cost $1 or more each. Do you think I just carry around a big pad of money and peel it off whenever I want some!?!? (Note to self: I hope he didn't see this post (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=529559#post529559).)

MrMacMan
Oct 21, 2003, 06:44 PM
Hehe my creative tank ran dry I couldn't use the Letter Q for any of the anagrams... :p

BTW, I had previously read your money pad... :D

Which has caused me to stuff my wallet with fake money, one being the real bill and other others placebo. (Thank you people who jumped me) :D

Doctor Q
Oct 26, 2003, 04:34 PM
Kevin Weissman, who plays Marshall Flinkman in Alias, is a member of the country rock band Trainwreck (http://www.t-wreck.tk/), under the name Kenny Bob Thorton. They played at the Viper Room (http://www.viperroom.com/schedule.html) on Sunset Blvd. in Los Angeles the last two nights.

Kevin is one of the band members (http://www.tenaciousjoes.com/trainwreckband.html), along with Klip Calhoun, of the band Tenacious D (http://www.tenaciousd.com/).

Sample Trainwreck music (MP3 format): Trainwreck Theme Song (http://www.ragekage.com/~tenaciousjoes/audio/trainwreck-two_tracks-theme_song.mp3) (country), Baby, Let's Rock (http://www.ragekage.com/~tenaciousjoes/audio/trainwreck-two_tracks-baby_lets_rock.mp3) (rock).

Kevin is second to left:

http://www.tenaciousjoes.com/trainwreck/trainwrex3.jpg

MrMacMan
Oct 26, 2003, 05:55 PM
LoL, they certainly look like a trainwreck!

:p

Doctor Q
Oct 27, 2003, 01:50 AM
Best line by Marshall tonite, when talking about the programmable biological weapon: "Pretty Cool... in a sick, horrible way."

Did they use makeup on Kevin Weissman for his high school photo (http://alias-media.com/modules/My_eGallery/gallery/ep-caps/season3/repercussions/repercussions-773.jpg) or did they use an actual old photo of him? After seeing the Trainwreck photo, I know he doesn't always look like regular ol' Marshall!

MrMacMan
Oct 27, 2003, 08:31 PM
Yeah it looks Offical.

I mean... it is a really funny photo...

hehe.

Doctor Q
Oct 27, 2003, 09:38 PM
I'll never need to IM you, MrMacman. Lately, we seem to have complete privacy here in this thread!

Did you get the feeling that Lauren enjoyed her car chase? She and Marshall may not be field trained, but they both seem to enjoy getting in on the action!

pyrotoaster
Oct 27, 2003, 10:29 PM
Oh ho ho! Think you have so much privacy, do you? :D

Last night's ep was good, but I already can't wait for next week. Evil Francie (a.k.a. A.G. Doren) is alive!

Now all they've got to do is bring back Will and Irina...

Doctor Q
Nov 3, 2003, 01:43 AM
Tonite's episode was "The Nemesis", no doubt referring to Francie, I mean Allison. Some thoughts:

Did you notice that Sydney was dressed in white and Allison in black for their encounter? Is that in case we can't tell the good guys from the bad guys?

Sydney is Sloane's handler? And she wants to put him in danger? I think we have a wee bit of conflict of interest.

They figured out a way for Kevin Weissman to show off his real drumming talent (see earlier post). Geeks rule!

Lauren and Vaughn have to keep secrets from each other. Very clever way to stress the marriage, J.J.

Doctor Q
Nov 9, 2003, 05:57 PM
Trivia about Greg Grunberg, who plays Eric Weiss:

* He was friends with J.J. Abrams long before the days of Alias.

* He auditioned for the Fred Flintstone part in "The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas."

* He played the (thrilling) role of "shirtless fan" in "Austin Powers in Goldmember."

* Because his character rooms with Sydney now and is everyone's shoulder to cry on, he said in an interview that his role is "the show's Dr. Phil."

Eric Weiss gets to go on missions, but tonite, at long last, Sloane gets out of that fancy office and back into the real world too. Thank goodness.

The episode is named "Prelude".

pyrotoaster
Nov 9, 2003, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
Eric Weiss gets to go on missions, but tonite, at long last, Sloane gets out of that fancy office and back into the real world too. Thank goodness.

The episode is named "Prelude".
Jennifer Garner was on Leno on Friday (the only reason I bothered watching Leno on Friday), and she said that tonight's episode is going to be the beginning of story line that will lead to a big mid-season event (al la last year's destruction of SD-6 and The Alliance).

Looks like we're in store for some good stuff (maybe Will or Irina could come back, $$ issues aside).

MrMacMan
Nov 9, 2003, 11:28 PM
Tonights eps... Hmm, I dunno it let me down...

Not enough a_s kicking. :D

If alias goes back into love triangle mode I'm not gonna watch. :(

I hope they don't do that.

pyrotoaster
Nov 9, 2003, 11:37 PM
Oooh...

Syd's in trouble, Dixon's removed from power, and Vaughn's wife's a complete jerk. I'd say that's pretty good (even without a whole lot of fighting stuff).

Looks like there's some big stuff on the way for the mid-season event. But we have to wait two weeks for a new episode! I knew it was bound to happen, but I was just so used to the weekly new eps... :D

Doctor Q
Nov 10, 2003, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by pyrotoaster
tonight's episode is going to be the beginning of story line that will lead to a big mid-season event (al la last year's destruction of SD-6 and The Alliance).Originally posted by pyrotoaster
...Dixon's removed from power...
Isn't it obvious? In a few weeks we'll see the big mid-season event: the total destruction of the CIA!

Or maybe not. ;)

Boy, that Lauren (Mrs. Vaughn) is really annoying - always doing her job when we all know she shouldn't! Seriously, I don't think J.J. is handling her character right. As a jealous wife and also as someone unwilling to bend the rules in a morally uncertain situation, she's not going to have any fans among the fans. The characters with more ambiguous motives and methods (like Sloane and even Jack) are more entertaining and less annoying.

I love Marshall's little car. I want one too!

Vector
Nov 10, 2003, 01:34 PM
The midseason event is what they showed in the preview of the nect episode. Sydney is in the custody of the NSC and Jack, Vaughan, and Sloane put together a team to extract her from the place where the NSC is holding her. Lauren is forced to choose between her job and her husband. Either she will stay loyal to the NSC and be a boring character who will be gone by next season, or she will go with Vaughan and become a completely different character (allowing her to remain beyond the current storyline).

"When Sydney is taken into custody by the NSC, Jack and Vaughn have no choice but to ally themselves with Sloane to rescue her. But with only hours to spare before she is forced to undergo a radical surgery to recover her memory, they must put together an extraction team, headed by freelance operative Brill (Richard Roundtree). Meanwhile, Lauren faces an impossible choice — side with the NSC, who she wants to believe is doing the right thing — or with her husband."

sketchy
Nov 10, 2003, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
Isn't it obvious? In a few weeks we'll see the big mid-season event: the total destruction of the CIA!


I'm thinking her mom is going to be back real soon. The CIA can get her out, but where does she go from there? Dixon is out of power, NSC is taking over the office. I think Sydney will be working for her mom. Or Sloan.. but that seems unlikely. Maybe he can hide her.. he has weird paternal vibes.

dave

MrMacMan
Nov 10, 2003, 09:25 PM
Haha...

Random Speculation...

Lets see...

Mrs. Vaughn will stay with the NSC.

The NSC will effectivly 'take over' the CIA.

The Real CIA will branch off into an organization of their own. (Dixion, Syd, Jack)

Jack's wife will possibly team up to destroy the covenant...

yada yada yada.

Speak Lies I do,... yes. (yoda voice)

Doctor Q
Nov 16, 2003, 11:26 PM
And tonight's Alias episode is... next week! Auuuuggggghhh!

manitoubalck
Nov 17, 2003, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by arn
I'm an alias fan. Quite a cliffhanger last season.

:)

arn

Series 2 only finished screening in Aus tonight. Grr! I want to see season 3.

Doctor Q
Nov 23, 2003, 04:59 PM
Tonight we learn if Sydney will really undergo that surgery they keep talking about. The more important question, of course, is whether she has asked for any cosmetic surgery as long as she's on the table anyway. Most fans don't seem to think she needs any work done, so it probably depends on her health insurance.

Without an Alias episode last week, we all had to find something else to keep us busy on Sunday. I chose the chess match (http://www.x3dchess.com/) between Garry Kasparov and the reigning software champ: X3D Fritz. Did anybody else watch or follow it? The game was played in virtual reality: Kasparov used goggles to see the board floating in front of him.

The overall match was a draw: two games drawn, one win for X3D Fritz, and one exciting win for Kasparov last Sunday. That one was quite a victory for those of us rooting for the human. Read the details (http://www.x3dchess.com/news/reportgame3.htm) if you want to see how Kasparov's long-term strategy trumped X3D Fritz's massive computing power. Of course, Fritz runs on a quad 2.8 GHz Xeon server, not a Power Mac G5 supercomputer, so it was needlessly underpowered!

OK, back to Alias. What will be tonight's opening sequence? Is Sark a pawn? Was it right for Dixon to get promoted? Will Lauren betray her mate? Will Vaughn become Sydney's knight in shining armor? Will we see more of the CIA's rank and file officers? Tune in tonite and check!

Doctor Q
Dec 7, 2003, 04:38 PM
Alias Season 2 is now out on DVD (http://video.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?EAN=786936227918).

You can also buy a soundtrack CD (http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?ean=0030206652123).

MrMacMan
Dec 7, 2003, 11:17 PM
Ah I watched tonights episode...

Vaughn!

Wow... finally... what is that like 9 eps into the season?

Have they even paid him?

:o

Doctor Q you seem to have missed an epsisode overview!

:eek:

Oh No!

Doctor Q
Dec 7, 2003, 11:33 PM
I'm gotten in the habit of postings news, opinions, or trivia about Alias on Sundays, since that's when I'm thinking about it. Since I'm on the west coast, where we are all too lazy to watch our TV shows until 3 hours after the east coast does, I haven't seen tonite's episode yet. I'm looking forward to seeing it and voicing my opinion on that life-and-death issue: whether Will's new haircut is any good.

Edit: OK, now I've seen it. Will's hair is fine. I like the unshaven look.

I guess Lazarey isn't going to get that tie he wanted from Sark for Father's Day after all.

I like to be fooled/surprised, and I think the sniper outcome was a little too easy to guess. Or else I got lucky and saw what Sloane was up to before we were supposed to figure it out. I incorrectly predicted one thing about it: I thought they'd end this episode with the sound of the shot but not showing who it hit.

Can we really count Allison out? For sure? Definitely? See didn't look very lively, but Will didn't have time to check her pulse either. I wonder if they will find a way to bring her back. So, of course, that leaves me in "Allison wonder land". Get it?

sketchy
Dec 8, 2003, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
I like to be fooled/surprised, and I think the sniper outcome was a little too easy to guess. Or else I got lucky and saw what Sloane was up to before we were supposed to figure it out. I incorrectly predicted one thing about it: I thought they'd end this episode with the sound of the shot but not showing who it hit.

So, of course, that leaves me in "Allison wonder land". Get it?

I knew that was going to happen to. A little to obvious, but satisfying. I think it was the "I'll tell you when I know" bit Sloane told the sniper.

With the reunion show last night I was expecting to see her mom. maybe next week. Did you guys get a preview? We got jack.

Dave

Doctor Q
Dec 8, 2003, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by sketchy
Did you guys get a preview? We got jack.Nope, no preview. That's because "Full Disclosure" (season 3, episode 11) isn't scheduled for broadcast until Sunday, January 11. :(

Vector
Dec 8, 2003, 11:12 AM
So anyone care to venture a guess as to why the box that sydney hid in gratz contained the flesh of rambaldi?

MrMacMan
Dec 8, 2003, 09:46 PM
Yup, she 'looks' dead... for the 2ed time...


lol... I dunno she was pretty dead.

rambaldi yes he is the sources of all stuff!

Doctor Q
Jan 11, 2004, 08:23 PM
Don't forget, Alias is back tonite. In this episode, Full Disclosure, we are supposed to learn at last what Sydney's been doing the last two years. Of course, we already know: making the best TV show on the air! Oh wait, that's Jennifer Garner, not Sydney Bristow. I have trouble telling them apart sometimes.

Doctor Q
Jan 12, 2004, 06:52 PM
They certainly disclosed a lot last night, although I doubt J. J. Abrams would really give us all the facts. It's always fun to find out who's alive vs. dead, who's a good guy vs. a bad guy, and who "knew the secret" vs. "was kept in the dark" compared with what we knew from previous episodes -- if you can keep track!

Meanwhile, it's time to join the Hollywood Foreign Press Assocation and fill out our Golden Globe ballots. Let's see, there are five nominees in the TV category for Actress In A Leading Role - Drama Series. Hmmmmm. A tough call:

--------------------------------------------
Frances Conroy in Six Feet Under - no

Allison Janney in The West Wing - naw

Joely Richardson in Nip/Tuck - nope

Amber Tamblyn in Joan Of Arcadia - negative

Jennifer Garner in Alias - yes! :)
--------------------------------------------

Jennifer won in 2001 and was nominated in 2002. Alias didn't get nominated for Outstanding Production as it did in 2001. :(

We'll know the results Sunday, January 25, 2004. The show will be on NBC, 8pm eastern time.

Vector
Jan 12, 2004, 08:08 PM
It will be interesting to see what sloane's connection is to all of this. Remember it was him that gave sidney the letter, apparently forged, which led to the covenant finding Lazaray (sp?) and ultimately the box. I thought that the truth about Lauren was a bit predictable, especially given the fight seen between them when sidney was trying to recover her memory.

MrMacMan
Jan 13, 2004, 12:39 AM
Yeah we have to remember that sloane is really the mastermind behind everything.

;)

BTW, we didn't see him At all in the last Episode, no?

Lauren was predictable from the beggining of the season... I mean really.

Learning about her past was fun... hehe.

--MrMacMan

Doctor Q
Jan 13, 2004, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Yeah we have to remember that sloane is really the mastermind behind everything. BTW, we didn't see him At all in the last Episode, no?Right. He was off somewhere this week, probably up to no good. But he figures heavily in next week's plot.

Here are the loose ends from this week that I'm wondering about:

* Was Lauren's assassination attempt successful or will Lazarey get to say more about "the passenger"? I think this is the 3rd time the poor guy's been "probably dead"!

* Did Sloane make off with a fertilized egg? I think he did.

* Can you ever trust Marshall not to plant a bug?

3rdpath
Jan 13, 2004, 02:14 AM
oh, how i could spoil all of the suspense and bring your alias world crashing down...but i won't...;)

you can also expect a certain incredibly funny english comedian to play a villain in the near future.

and maybe someday i'll tell ya about the time i had dinner with jennifer....

Doctor Q
Jan 18, 2004, 06:36 PM
Tonite's Alias episode: "Crossings", with North Koreans as the bad guys.

Seeing North Korea selected as tonite's site of trouble brings a topic to my mind, which will be the subject of today's Doctor Q lecture...

The Soviet Union used to be the reliable bad guys in spy thrillers. Throughout the 60s and 70s, James Bond could always rely on Russian bad guys to show up, even as recently as Octopussy (Roger Moore, 1983), with a renegade Soviet general, and Goldeneye (Pierce Brosnan, 1995) with the Russian mafia. The other films in the Bond series since Octopussy have had to find new bad guys:

License to Kill (Timothy Dalton, 1989) - drug dealers

Tomorrow Never Dies (Pierce Brosnan, 1997) - media barons (Ted Turner, Rupert Murdoch, Bill Gates, and Larry Ellison rolled into one)

The World is Not Enough (Pierce Brosnan, 1999) - oil tycoons [more importantly to me, the last appearance of Desmond Llewelyn as Q!]

Die Another Day (Pierce Brosnan, 2002) - North Koreans

Notice that the most recent film gave North Korea the starring role, just as Alias does tonight. I think the North Koreans make believable bad guys because so many people are suspicious of, and therefore fearful of, what's going on in North Korea right now. Alias plots take us all over the world, but I think it is no surprise that we hear about North Korea in the daily news, in a Bond film, and now in Alias.

Enjoy the episode, because after tonite we have a forced vacation for the next two Sundays. The first will be a boring day without Alias. The second is Superbowl Sunday, which might help distract us.

MrMacMan
Jan 23, 2004, 12:14 AM
I liked this past episode... it didn't answer a lot... but it was great neither the less...

What I did find... it was more bloody then I can remember... chop sticks through the hands... AK47 ---> Kills like 8 people...


A whole lot of stuff.

jrv3034
Jan 23, 2004, 11:11 AM
Last night I just saw the last two episodes of Alias in a row. I had them taped, and now I'm all caught up.

OMG, Lauren!!!:eek:

Who is "the Passenger"? Is it the embryo? What the?

Isabella Rosellini is STILL hot. Damn!

So when does Vaughn get to fight with Lauren?

Good stuff!

Doctor Q
Jan 23, 2004, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by jrv3034
So when does Vaughn get to fight with Lauren?A lot of folks on this show have learned that their romantic partner is a spy: Danny, Jack, Emily (Sloane), Will, and Diana (Dixon). Eventually Vaughn will find out that Lauren isn't on his side, but I don't think it'll be right away.

I can just imagine the ceremony if Vaughn eventually marries Sydney:

Minister: Sydney, do you take this man to be your lawfully wedded husband?
Sydney: I do.
Minister: Vaughn, do you take this woman to be your lawfully wedded wife?

At least he has a first name, even if nobody uses it. Poor Sark's mother apparently couldn't think of a first name.

MrMacMan
Jan 24, 2004, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by Doctor Q

I can just imagine the ceremony if Vaughn eventually marries Sydney:

Minister: Sydney, do you take this man to be your lawfully wedded husband?
Sydney: I do.
Minister: Vaughn, do you take this woman to be your lawfully wedded wife?

At least he has a first name, even if nobody uses it. Poor Sark's mother apparently couldn't think of a first name.
What is Vaughn's first name?

Does anyone even remember? ;)

Haha thats sad.

And Sark's first name is Sark... its Sark Jr.

:p

Doctor Q
Jan 24, 2004, 02:12 AM
Originally posted by MrMacman
What is Vaughn's first name?That's easy. Don Juan Vaughn.

Vector
Jan 24, 2004, 02:33 PM
His name is michael vaughan.

MrMacMan
Jan 25, 2004, 02:52 AM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
That's easy. Don Juan Vaughn.
I
Was
Kidding.

:p

Doctor Q
Jan 25, 2004, 03:14 AM
Originally posted by MrMacman
I
Was
Kidding.
Not me. I was very serious. He wants you to think his name is Michael, but it's another spy trick!

Doctor Q
Jan 25, 2004, 04:03 PM
Tonite's Alias episode is a repeat of the third episode from this season, first broadcast on Columbus Day last year.

Trivia of the day: Bradley Cooper, who plays William D. Tippin on Alias, was one of the stars of the TV movie "I Want to Marry Ryan Banks", broadcast last night.

For 50 points, what does this poem have to do with tonite's episode?

...........Fury said to a
..........mouse, That he
........met in the
......house,
...“Let us
.....both go to
.......law: I will
.........prosecute
...........YOU. —Come,
..............I’ll take no
...............denial; We
............must have a
........trial: For
.....really this
..morning I’ve
.nothing
to do.”
..Said the
....mouse to the
......cur, “Such
........a trial,
..........dear Sir,
................With
............no jury
.........or judge,
.......would be
.....wasting
....our
.....breath.”
......“I’ll be
........judge, I’ll
..........be jury,”
..............Said
...........cunning
.............old Fury:
............“I’ll
.............try the
................whole
.................cause,
....................and
...............condemn
..............you
.............to
..............death.”

MacFan25
Jan 25, 2004, 04:03 PM
Anyone know if tonight's episode is new or a re-run?

Edit: Nevermind, just saw Doctor Q's last post - which was posted at the same time as mine. ;)

MrMacMan
Jan 25, 2004, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
Not me. I was very serious. He wants you to think his name is Michael, but it's another spy trick!

Ah yeah... yeah it is.

;)


Gah and why are they having repeats?

BAH!

:(

Doctor Q
Jan 27, 2004, 02:46 AM
Jennifer Garner didn't win a Golden Globe award, but Daredevil is eligible for an Oscar nomination, and those nominations are going to be announced in a few hours. Go get 'em, Jennifer!

Doctor Q
Jan 30, 2004, 02:31 PM
Well, nobody won the big 50-point prize for knowing what a curved poem had to do with this season's third episode.

The answer: The poem is from Chapter III of Alice in Wonderland ("A Caucus-Race and a Long Tale"), where a mouse tells a "tale" while Alice thinks of it as a "tail". Alice in Wonderland is Sydney's favorite book, and she lost her copy in her apartment fire at the end of season 2. Weiss gives her a new copy at the end of season 3, episode 3.

By the way, in addition to the 50 points, the winner would have gotten a date with Jennifer Garner or Michael Vartan. I forgot to mention that earlier.

Instead of February 8, ABC now says the next new episode will be February 15.

MrMacMan
Jan 31, 2004, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
Well, nobody won the big 50-point prize for knowing what a curved poem had to do with this season's third episode.

The answer: The poem is from Chapter III of Alice in Wonderland ("A Caucus-Race and a Long Tale"), where a mouse tells a "tale" while Alice thinks of it as a "tail". Alice in Wonderland is Sydney's favorite book, and she lost her copy in her apartment fire at the end of season 2. Weiss gives her a new copy at the end of season 3, episode 3.

By the way, in addition to the 50 points, the winner would have gotten a date with Jennifer Garner or Michael Vartan. I forgot to mention that earlier.

Instead of February 8, ABC now says the next new episode will be February 15.

Holy crap.


That was a frikken master piece.


Wow, that was great.


I Love you... okay, if you were a girl... :rolleyes:



:eek: <--- Me in sheer Amazement

Doctor Q
Feb 15, 2004, 04:55 PM
Today's featured actor: Melissa Suzanne George, who plays Lauren Reed.

She was born in Perth, Australia on August 6, 1976 (which makes her 27). As a youngster and teen, she rollerbladed and rollerskated competitively, nationally and internationally, and came in second in the Junior World Roller Skating championships when she was 14. Laster, she dropped out of high school and was named Western Australia Teenage Model of the Year.

She's been in movies, including Mulholland Drive and last year's "Down With Love", and TV shows, where her roles included a lesbian nanny on Friends, the queen of the Valkryies on Charmed, and a murderess actress on Monk (good practice for Alias!).

Melissa has been married for 3-1/2 years, has an 8-year-old stepdaughter, and lives in Los Angeles.

Can you spot her in this lineup (http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0186589/5), which is from the 2001 movie "Sugar & Spice" about bank-robbing cheerleaders?

I wonder who's better:Melissa George on (roller) skates or Michael Vartan on (ice) skates? Both of them (without their skates) will be seen in tonite's Alias episode, "After Six".

MrMacMan
Feb 16, 2004, 01:59 AM
What?

No Features Episode?

Tarantino is back baby! ;)

I missed the first 15 minutes of the show damn...

Sloanes big dark secret? wtf with drugs?

meh.

--MrMacMan

Doctor Q
Feb 17, 2004, 01:30 PM
As we all know, Sydney was called Julia Thorne while she was missing for two years.

Senator John Kerry married his best friend's sister in 1970, was separated from her in 1982, and divorced her in 1988. Her name? Julia Thorne.

In the world of Alias, you never know whether to believe in coincidences. Was J.J. Abrams trying to tell us something about the presidential candidate?

SiliconAddict
Feb 17, 2004, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
One week from today, the third season of
Who's a returning fan? Who hasn't watched it before but might give it a try?

*SiliconAddict counters with: Stargate SG-1 Season 7 with a strength multiplier for 150 episodes and a dexterity multiplier for SG1 is signed up for an 8th season. I WIN! ;) :D*

:D Woo Hoo its the 150's episode this week and they are a kill'n someone to
celebrate it! ;)

As for Alias. I never got into it. Sundays I'm out and about with my friend. Eventually I'm going to sign up for netflicks and will rent the various seasons at that point. I've seen a couple episodes but I really never got into Alias. *shrugs* Then again it was one of the first episodes. Most series take at least 2 seasons to mature enough to gain my interest.

Doctor Q
Feb 22, 2004, 03:44 PM
At the Online Film & Television Academy Awards (which formerly had separate Online Motion Picture Academy Awards and Online Television Academy Awards), Alias won in three categories:

Best Series Lighting
Best Series Costume Design
Best Series Sound

That must be what makes the show so good - the great lighting! The amazing plots have nothing to do with it. ;)

Next episode: "Blowback", in two weeks.

Opteron
Feb 22, 2004, 08:37 PM
Alias Season 3 starts in Australia this week for anyone who cares.

halfpast 8 or 9 on thursday, on Channel 7. Enjoy.

MrMacMan
Feb 22, 2004, 08:39 PM
DAMN SUPER MILLIONAIRE!

Ahh, I hate you ABC with your crappy scheduling.

I'd rather Alias then your crappy law show thats on after it!

arg!

Doctor Q -- Really... lighting and costumes make the show great?

Umm, not really.

Sydneys 10000 different costumes are nice... but not very award winning...

Opteron
Feb 24, 2004, 05:38 PM
Bump:p well not realy.

Alias season 3, started last night in australia and I wasn't disapointed. I only hope Channel 7 doesn't do what the ABC has done in the US and screw arround with the programming sheduals.

Also Cheers for the insight in the earlyer pages of this post.

MrMacMan
Feb 25, 2004, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by Opteron
Bump:p well not realy.

Alias season 3, started last night in australia and I wasn't disapointed. I only hope Channel 7 doesn't do what the ABC has done in the US and screw arround with the programming sheduals.

Also Cheers for the insight in the earlyer pages of this post.

hehe have fun!


I hope we didn't spoil it for you!

:(

ABC... who knows what crazy stuff their gonna do... maybe they are gonna cancel the show because of getting too high on the ratings...

Crazy people...


The local station offered me a job, I'm not out of High school yet...

:confused:

Opteron
Feb 25, 2004, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
The local station offered me a job, I'm not out of High school yet...


I'd take it:p

MrMacMan
Feb 26, 2004, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by Opteron
I'd take it:p

I would...

If I applied for a JOB!

:eek: :eek:


There are jumping the gun a little... :eek:

Doctor Q
Mar 7, 2004, 05:22 PM
In tonight's Alias episode, we'll see the same events unfold from two points of view: good guys and bad guys. I like J.J. Abrams' willingness to experiment with methods of story presentation.

You might think that the episode titles would give clues about what's going to happen, but I can never make much out of them. The next six episodes, starting with tonight's, are named "Blowback", "Facade", "Taken", "The Frame", "Unveiled", and "Hourglass". I guess "Unveiled" could refer to Lauren.

Doctor Q
Mar 14, 2004, 08:25 PM
Tonite's bad guy is played by Ricky Gervais, who recently won a Golden Globe award for Best Performance by an Actor in a Television Series - Musical or Comedy for The Office (http://www.bbcamerica.com/genre/comedy_games/the_office/the_office.jsp).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/images/400/theoffice_2.jpg

Presumably, he'll look a little more menacing tonight, in the Alias episode named "Facade".

P.S. Happy Pi Day (3-14) to Marshall and other geeks everywhere!

carbonmotion
Mar 14, 2004, 08:53 PM
season 3 sucks right now.... im sorry but someone has to say it... the first few episodes were good... but now, its just been booooooring.

Doctor Q
Mar 21, 2004, 08:46 PM
Dr. Barnett is getting a bit chummy with Sloane lately, isn't she?

She's played by Patricia Wettig and it's not Ms. Wettig's first on-screen relationship. She first came to fame playing the wife in one of the two married couples in the thirtysomething (http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/T/htmlT/thirtysomethi/thirtysomethi.htm) TV series. Her real-life husband, Ken Olin, played the husband in the other couple! She also played the wife of Billy Crystal's character in the City Slickers and City Slickers II movies.

And no, Ken Olin is not related to Lena Olin, who (occasionally) plays Irina Derevko on Alias. It's confusing enough as it is without that being another connection!

The cast from thirtysomething. Ken Olin is the 4th adult from the left and Patricia Wettig is the 6th:

http://www.supostal.com.ar/wallpapers/imagenes/television/thirtysomething.jpg

A slightly more recent photo:

http://media.movieweb.com/galleries/1977/1307/hi/co3.jpg

HenMaster6000
Mar 22, 2004, 04:05 PM
Holy Crap! I go to MacRumors almost every day, and I'm just finding out now that you guys have a forum devoted to my favorite show? Wow.

Anyway, this season is feeling weak, do you think ABC will pick it up for another season? I hope. If they do, what should they change to make it more exciting?

I was thinking that they should make the rambaldi device a time machine and use it to take sydney back 2 years. I also think that the covenant should have a face other than Sark's, namely Sloane's. My third suggestion would be to bring back Lena Olin, however high the cost may be.

What do you guys think?

MacFan25
Mar 22, 2004, 04:15 PM
Good episode last night, though Vaughn's wife (Lauren?) is really getting on my nerves. I hope she is caught soon...

Vector
Mar 22, 2004, 04:25 PM
Good episode last night, though Vaughn's wife (Lauren?) is really getting on my nerves. I hope she is caught soon...

A description of the next episode says that jack will reveal his belief on lauren to her father, so she will be revealed in one of the next two episodes.

MacFan25
Mar 22, 2004, 04:43 PM
A description of the next episode says that jack will reveal his belief on lauren to her father, so she will be revealed in one of the next two episodes.
Good, I just hope she is revealed sometime before the season finale, though I know writers like to pull tricks like that. :p

Doctor Q
Mar 22, 2004, 07:09 PM
The dune buggy scene was so over-the-top that it beat Marshall's usual fumbling for funniest moment.

I agree that they need more characters. In the first season, SD-6 always seemed to run on a skeleton crew too, and when all the SD cells were shut down it didn't have as much impact as if you had seen the other offices and people. It's the same with the Covenant - it needs more people and more ambiguous connections among them, and more chances for side-switching, backstabbing, double-crossing, triple-crossing, and the other fun elements of the plot that keep us surprised and guessing.

MrMacMan
Mar 24, 2004, 01:00 AM
The dune buggy scene was so over-the-top that it beat Marshall's usual fumbling for funniest moment.


I found that I personally could have made that scene about 4 minutes longer...
'yeah I was suppose to be over HERE :point: but Where am I now again?'
'hmmm? :wakes up out of trance: uhh this is a restricted area!'

;)


Lauren is gonna get caught... too bad they always use the like 'love' in that damn weird way you know, it was obvious sark <--> lauren.


Also this was like the 4th episode where Dixion said 'I WANT TO FIND THIS LEAK'... oh yeah they are really finally getting to the bottom of that... tho I wanted him to say it like 100 more times just to make sure they got his point... ha.

Doctor Q
Mar 24, 2004, 04:29 PM
Read the story that 3rdpath tells here!

Doctor Q
Mar 28, 2004, 07:07 PM
Tonight we have guest actor Djimon Hounsou, who received an Academy Award nomination playing "Mateo" in the movie "In America" (which I thought was excellent). In that movie he played a man with a good heart and a tough exterior. Tonight the good heart is gone; he's bad guy Kazari Bomani, a part he played once before on Alias. He was the guy who kidnapped Sloane in the episode where Marshall went on a mission disguised as a gambler. Remember that one? :cool:

Highly suspicious coincidence: Tonight's episode is named "The Frame", and it's being released the same week that Adobe announced it would drop FrameMaker as a Mac product (http://news.com.com/2100-1012-5177920.html?tag=nl). Is Adobe guilty of abandoning a once great Mac product, or were they framed? :)

It looks like Lauren's counterspy mission is in trouble. Not only is Jack suspicious, but if she checks her contacts in the TV underworld she might learn that the episode following this one is named "Unveiled". :eek:

wdlove
Mar 28, 2004, 09:29 PM
My wife is watching Alias. She enjoys the show, likes a good mystery.

MrMacMan
Mar 28, 2004, 09:36 PM
This is the best episode ever...


Lauren is screwed, gets better every minute.

Best episode of season.

Wow... so great...


Look a new twist!

Lauren's mom?!

Oh No! :eek:

Doctor Q
Apr 11, 2004, 02:27 PM
Two bits of Jennifer Garner news today:

* The movie 13 Going on 30 opens April 23, starring Jennifer Garner as a 13-year-old girl who wishes to be grown up and turns 30 overnight. The male lead is played by Mark Ruffalo. See the movie trailer here (http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/13goingon30/). Does anybody remember the Tom Hanks movie Big (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094737/)? It sounds like the same kind of plot.

* The is a cover story on Jennifer Garner in today's issue of Parade Magazine (www.parade.com), which is issued in newspapers all over the country. The article will be available online in the magazine's archive on April 19. The article, titled "You Have To Work For Happiness", includes various personal tidbits:

She is divorced from Scott Foley, who was on TV series Felicity. She lives alone in Pacific Palisades. Her father Bill is a retired chemical engineer. Her mother Pat is a former college professor. She's the middle kid of three sisters. She played alto sax in high school. Says Garner about her high school years: "I was a geek, a bit on the outside of things. I wasn't particularly popular."

The gossips among you might note a pattern: In guest appearances on Felicity, she played the former lover of Scott Foley's character, and then she dated him, lived with him, and married him in real life. More recently, she dated Michael Vartan, who plays her sometimes lover on Alias. Will she date Mark Ruffalo next?

Tonight's Alias episode is named "Unveiled". Might J.J. Abrams be pulling a fast one on us again, and we'll find that the title refers to something other than Vaughn learning about his wife? Or maybe it's a triple cross and it DOES refer to Lauren because J.J. thinks we'll suspect that he's trying to trick us so it must be otherwise. Did you follow that?

There's also a computer virus in tonight's story. I wonder if it arrives disguised as an MP3 file?

Doctor Q
Apr 11, 2004, 08:24 PM
It has been called to my attention that Alias starts an hour later than usual (10pm, 9central). I don't know if this is a permanent change. If Sidney and Vaughn look oddly like Nick & Jessica (http://abc.go.com/specials/nick_jessica.html) tonight, it's because you turned on the TV an hour early.

Edit, later in the day: Next week Alias will be back to its normal time.

wdlove
Apr 11, 2004, 10:23 PM
Doctor Q or anyone did you see the article in "Parade" on Jennifer Garner. "You have to work for happiness" it was true love, marriage, and overnight success that forced her to remember. "She's reaching for happiness again"

Neserk
Apr 11, 2004, 10:26 PM
Two bits of Jennifer Garner news today:

* The movie 13 Going on 30 opens April 23, starring Jennifer Garner as a 13-year-old girl who wishes to be grown up and turns 30 overnight. The male lead is played by Mark Ruffalo. See the movie trailer here (http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/13goingon30/). Does anybody remember the Tom Hanks movie Big (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094737/)? It sounds like the same kind of plot.

* The is a cover story on Jennifer Garner in today's issue of Parade Magazine (www.parade.com), which is issued in newspapers all over the country. The article will be available online in the magazine's archive on April 19. The article, titled "You Have To Work For Happiness", includes various personal tidbits:

She is divorced from Scott Foley, who was on TV series Felicity. She lives alone in Pacific Palisades. Her father Bill is a retired chemical engineer. Her mother Pat is a former college professor. She's the middle kid of three sisters. She played alto sax in high school. Says Garner about her high school years: "I was a geek, a bit on the outside of things. I wasn't particularly popular."

The gossips among you might note a pattern: In guest appearances on Felicity, she played the former lover of Scott Foley's character, and then she dated him, lived with him, and married him in real life. More recently, she dated Michael Vartan, who plays her sometimes lover on Alias. Will she date Mark Ruffalo next?

Tonight's Alias episode is named "Unveiled". Might J.J. Abrams be pulling a fast one on us again, and we'll find that the title refers to something other than Vaughn learning about his wife? Or maybe it's a triple cross and it DOES refer to Lauren because J.J. thinks we'll suspect that he's trying to trick us so it must be otherwise. Did you follow that?

There's also a computer virus in tonight's story. I wonder if it arrives disguised as an MP3 file?

Did they forget the *she is beautiful* part?

My husband says I have a heterosexual crush on her :D What can I say? I love her!

Doctor Q
Apr 11, 2004, 11:12 PM
Doctor Q or anyone did you see the article in "Parade" on Jennifer Garner. "You have to work for happiness" it was true love, marriage, and overnight success that forced her to remember. "She's reaching for happiness again"Read the post 2 above yours.

MrMacMan
Apr 12, 2004, 03:09 AM
Read the post 2 above yours.
I find that strange that he missed that.


Anyway todays episode... they got SOO close to finding out her identity...

And then the end where they he find it out... yes!

Finally! The Truth!

Doctor Q
Apr 12, 2004, 03:00 PM
And then the end where they he find it out... yes!

Finally! The Truth!Not so fast. Maybe Lauren will erase Vaughn's memory of what was in that suitcase using her fancy magnetic ring device! :D

MacFan25
Apr 12, 2004, 06:09 PM
Good episode last night, I was glad that Lauren was finally revealed. I don't think we'll have to worry about Vaughn forgetting though (even if Lauren tries to use some fancy device on him :D ), because in the previews for next week's episode, Vaughn said something about how she betrayed him, and how it was time to get back at her, etc. :cool:

wdlove
Apr 12, 2004, 08:00 PM
Read the post 2 above yours.

I'm sorry Doctor Q, guess I was looking at your post above mine and not the previous.

My wife thinks that the other characters are going to find out that Lauren is part of the Covenant very soon. She misses the show when it isn't on.

ToddW
Apr 12, 2004, 09:46 PM
Thank god for tivo

Doctor Q
Apr 15, 2004, 12:13 AM
From collectmad.com (http://www.collectmad.com):
http://www.collectmad.com/madcoversite/mad441id.jpg

As a MAD subscriber, I got my copy in the mail today. Here's a sample frame from the Alias spoof:

Doctor Q
Apr 18, 2004, 07:02 PM
Trivia test: Speaking of Kill Bill and Ray Bradbury (two threads that have been active today), what actor was in both volumes of the Kill Bill movie, was a guest star on The Ray Bradbury Theatre TV show, and is a guest star in tonite's Alias? The first correct winner gets to snatch a pebble from my hand.

Vector
Apr 18, 2004, 07:07 PM
david carradine

Doctor Q
Apr 18, 2004, 07:45 PM
Vector wins a pebble! David Carradine returns as the monk who Sloane visited in the "Countdown" episode last season. His character is reminiscent of the mystical Kwai Chang Cain, the character he played on the Kung Fu TV series in the 1970s.

http://www.nostalgiacentral.com/images_tv/drama/kungfu_2.jpghttp://www.nostalgiacentral.com/images_tv/drama/kungfu_8.jpg

David Carradine, son of actor John Carradine, is a serial husband, having been married four times and having had live-in girlfriends for long periods in between marriages. He named his daughters "Calista" and "Kansas" and his son "Free". Hmmm.... Kansas? Free? Well, it's better than "Grasshopper" or "Mountaineer", I suppose. Come to think of it, Carradine's Alias character is named "Conrad", which doesn't sound much like a monk's name either!

Unlike Carradine, Vaughn might decide to stick with his wife Lauren rather than trade her in. She may be a murderous double-crossing traitor to her husband and her country, but maybe she can cook, or maybe Vaughn likes the way she looks in her red wig. :)

MrMacMan
Apr 18, 2004, 10:09 PM
A great episode...


But He dies!

And then Jack injects him with the solution.

And then he lives!


:command line:
/slay writers


Well Lauren found out about him finding out about here... :rolleyes:

Ah well.



So tell me how many people from Kill Bill are in Alias so far? 2? Or an I forgetting someone?

MacFan25
Apr 19, 2004, 03:48 PM
Good episode...I agree.

I had a feeling they were going to keep Sloane alive, but I just wasn't sure how they were going to do it. Pretty slick on Jack's part.

And Vaughn...you better watch your back. ;)

Vector
Apr 19, 2004, 04:54 PM
You knew that they couldn't kill sloane off. he is way to important to the show.

it was kind of predictable. having lauren come in at the last minute as a witness, pretending he didn't know she had clearance. it was all a con to deceive lauren. i kind of realized what was going to happen after i saw them start injecting sloane to kill him. it reminded me of the what happens in the opening sequence of spy game.

Doctor Q
Apr 19, 2004, 09:11 PM
Jack held the papers that would exonerate Sloane in his hand, putting them in his desk drawer at the last minute before the execution. His plan to keep Sloane alive was obviously arranged long before this moment, so I think his character wouldn't have really kept the papers out like that, and that the actor was instructed to do this only to fool us, the viewing audience. Was this a director's mistake?

For MacRumors members who need marriage counseling, I'm not going to recommend Dr. Barnet! How ethical was THAT last session she held?

I love the surprise news about Sydney's family and the resolution of the mystery over what Conrad handed Sloane on that mountain in Nepal and why he was doing his world-wide medical charity work. My faith in his lack of good deeds has been restored.

MrMacMan
Apr 21, 2004, 01:11 AM
Doc. Q -- The director playied on the drama.

Or Jack thought of it last minute and got the anti-lethal injection solution just before hand... but what was the purpose not not telling sydney after he knew he was just going to revive sloane?


Pretty lame.


This only ranks #2 on Alias lame list.
#1 lamest thing is when jack killed the guy for the code to turn off the bombs... he KILLED HIM and revived him. That is very lame.

Vector
Apr 21, 2004, 01:15 AM
are we sure that he didn't try to tell syd? he was about to say something when she got back after the "execution", but she stopped him.

pyrotoaster
Apr 21, 2004, 01:23 AM
I'm actually posting on the forums again (so it must be freakin' important)!

MrMacman: Whoa there! First off, didn't you catch Jack mentioning the whole thing about "I'm surprised you didn't get the reference, Arvin." Apparently, Jack and Arvin pulled that exact wine 'n execute 'n revive trick back in their ol' CIA days.

As for the killing the guy and using the AED to bring him back for the codes, I liked that stunt (because that's what it basically was, it could've gone horribly wrong and Jack would've been screwed).

Things like these really highlight that dark and twisted part of Jack. The part that almost could've become Sloane. There's a reason Arvin trusted Jack enough to make him a senior member of SD-6, someone who knew what he was doing was "evil."

If you want to get pissed about something, get pissed about the IM chats with Irina. I don't care if Lena Olin wants to be paid in borium ingots or solid gold dipped in chocolate or in freakin' Chuckie Cheese tokens, just bring back Irina!

Whew.

Doctor Q
Apr 21, 2004, 02:42 AM
but what was the purpose not not telling sydney after he knew he was just going to revive sloane?They could have been overheard in that hallway. Or, since she tricked him earlier in the episode, maybe he didn't want to take the chance to trust her.

Doctor Q
Apr 25, 2004, 02:04 PM
Mia Maestro was cast as Sydney's half-sister Nadia. I think she fits the part.

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/miramax_films/the_others/mia_maestro/otherspre2.jpg

Maestro's last three movies were The Motorcycle Diaries (2004), Hotel (2003), and Frida (2002).

Doctor Q
Apr 27, 2004, 03:32 PM
Will there be an Alias, season 4 thread at MacRumors? That depends on what ABC decides about renewing the series. Here's the latest predictions about the ABC fall lineup by the Los Angeles Times.

Will return: According to Jim, America's Funniest Home Videos, The Bachelor, Extreme Makeover, The George Lopez Show, Hope and Faith, My Wife and Kids, NYPD Blue

Will probably return: Alias, The Big House, Celebrity Mole, 8 Simple Rules, Less Than Perfect

Will probably not return: I'm With Her, It's All Relative, Life with Bonnie, Married to the Kellys

Will not return: The D.A., L.A. Dragnet, Line of Fire, 10-8, Threat Matrix

I've never heard of half of these shows. Of the whole list, I only watch Alias.

Does anybody know what's the best way to give ABC feedback about our opinions, e.g., by phone, fax, mail, e-mail, and/or web site, so that they will be most likely to listen to us?

MrMacMan
Apr 27, 2004, 09:59 PM
Will there be an Alias, season 4 thread at MacRumors? That depends on what ABC decides about renewing the series. Here's the latest predictions about the ABC fall lineup by the Los Angeles Times.

Will return: According to Jim, America's Funniest Home Videos, The Bachelor, Extreme Makeover, The George Lopez Show, Hope and Faith, My Wife and Kids, NYPD Blue

Will probably return: Alias, The Big House, Celebrity Mole, 8 Simple Rules, Less Than Perfect

Will probably not return: I'm With Her, It's All Relative, Life with Bonnie, Married to the Kellys

Will not return: The D.A., L.A. Dragnet, Line of Fire, 10-8, Threat Matrix

I've never heard of half of these shows. Of the whole list, I only watch Alias.

Does anybody know what's the best way to give ABC feedback about our opinions, e.g., by phone, fax, mail, e-mail, and/or web site, so that they will be most likely to listen to us?

The phone best way to do it is to call them.

Its the most personal method other then going there yourself and getting a chance to actually speak to a member of ABC... haha.

BTW, I'm pretty sure 'The Practice' isn't returning... ;)


Yeah ABC has a horrible comedy and overall lineup.

'Come here for your cruddy comedys!' bah!


I think I remember mia from Frida... wait... didn't she have like a 3 second sex scene? (I'm trying to remember which person did, I think it was her...)

Anyway I wasn't too impressed by the episode.

It was pretty obvious that Vaughn was walking into a trap... It looked to me like the trucker guy had an earpiece in!


Ah well... Slonea got what he wanted... :mad:

pyrotoaster
Apr 27, 2004, 10:05 PM
Finally! Arvin Sloane is creepy and obsessed again!
I like how it's now completely clear that Lauren is totally evil, that way the writers can get Vaughn and Sydney back together sooner. (How convenient!) ;)

Doctor Q
May 2, 2004, 10:52 AM
The Parade Magazine article I mentioned on April 11 is now available for viewing online: http://archive.parade.com/2004/0411/0411_index.html

And now I have something very interesting to report...

As I'm sure all Alias fans remember, two years ago, in Season 1 Episode 10 ("Spirit"), Sydney's reporter friend Will Tippin was investigating the death of Sydney's fiancé. When he heard the mysterious code name "SD1" on an audio tape, he googled it and found only one mention: the case of People versus David McNeil. He went to interview David McNeil at Lompoc Federal Penitentiary, which is a real place: Lompoc Federal Penitentiary is near Santa Barbara, California. Before the interview, we see a few frames of the prison, which is the first image I attached below.

In last week's episode ("Blood Ties"), Sydney rescued her half-sister Nadia from a prison in Chechnya, which we all know is a republic bordering Russia. Before Sydney goes in, we see a clip of the Chechnyan prison, which I also attached below. Look familiar? What a coincidence! They even have similar cars in the parking lot and similar big trucks on the far side of the yard!

If I didn't know better, I'd think Alias was only a TV show. Luckily, I know better, that it's a completely factual documentary, and that this is merely an architecturally coincidental prison design. ;)

Vector
May 2, 2004, 11:01 PM
Three weeks until the next episode. This is getting ridiculous. ABC has delayed alias so many times this season.

Doctor Q
May 9, 2004, 09:32 PM
Two more weeks to wait for the next episode. :( :( :(

And then it's the season finale! What will happen??? :confused: :eek: :confused:

And then it's summer, with no Alias. :( :mad: :(

Neserk
May 9, 2004, 09:38 PM
Two more weeks to wait for the next episode. :( :( :(

And then it's the season finale! What will happen??? :confused: :eek: :confused:

And then it's summer, with no Alias. :( :mad: :(

Boo-hoo! I was so looking forward to it tonight, and then found it wasn't even on!

Doctor Q
May 9, 2004, 10:15 PM
While we are waiting, we should make up our own episode.

Let's see...

Episode 21.5: Mass Confusion!

Lauren comes crying to Vaughn and says she is sorry and never meant to be bad and will he forgive her? Vaughn is such a wishy washy sap that he says ok. Then she grabs his wallet and runs crashing through a window. She gets away with $25 in cash and his ice hockey rink discount card.

Marshall's baby Mitchell turns out to be a genius and is hired to work for the C.I.A., reviewing satellite-based encephalograms looking for Elvis. He spots Will Tippin and Irina Derevko, but no Elvis, so he's sent back into the lab to keep looking.

Jack and Katya Derevko take a weekend vacation trip to North Korea, on the spur of the moment, and blow up a top secret munitions plant while they are there, just for fun.

Sydney discovers that the original Francie was one of triplets, and one of the triplets is a heroic police officer while the other is a master criminal. To make matters worse, both have disguised themselves as the other one and Sydney tracks them down in a Hall of Mirrors funhouse. They all shoot at each other, breaking a lot of glass, but missing each other.

Then the big climax: Sloane and Nadia are hiding out where nobody would look for them, in the middle of Central Park in New York. Since everyone else is globetrotting or frequenting back alleys and parking garages, nobody notices them in plain sight. As Sloane and Nadia are sitting on a bench feeding the pigeons, Milo Rambaldi materializes in front of them and says "Cool! My time travel invention worked!"

Doctor Q
May 23, 2004, 04:56 PM
Tonight. Season 3 finale. Any thoughts, Alias fanatics?

wdlove
May 23, 2004, 07:40 PM
Tonight. Season 3 finale. Any thoughts, Alias fanatics?

My wife is anxiously waiting the season finale. She is expecting it to be fast paced. Wondering if Lauren will get what's coming to her. :)

Doctor Q
May 23, 2004, 08:20 PM
Something shocking is bound to happen. Let's see what the likely choices are:

Somebody could die or be permanently changed in some physical or psychological way.

Somebody we thought was good could turn out to be bad.

We could learn a secret about somebody's past.

Somebody we thought was dead could turn out to be alive.

One of the above could apparently happen, but you aren't sure.

And, knowing J.J. Abrams, it could be all of the above!

iBook
May 24, 2004, 01:17 AM
Season finale was good over all, though the Sydney-Lauren "mask" thing really didn't work for me. Thankfully, there was not as much suspense in the "cliffhanger" as I was anticipating. Given that "Alias" won't return until January 2005, I was hoping the last show of the season wouldn't have a storyline that came out of left field like the one a year ago did.

gop007
May 24, 2004, 01:28 AM
The final episode was not as good as I would have expected. Given the many long pauses throughout the season, I wonder what ABC is up to. I would have expected a great cliff hanger climax that kept us at the edge of our seats for two hours.

Alias is one of the better shows that ABC has, but its ratings in the high 50's is what may keep the network from truly marketing the show. Jennifer has been taking advantage of the long breaks to further her career.

The Rimbaldi angle is getting old so I hope they come up with something more realistic come Jan 2005.

Doctor Q
May 24, 2004, 01:45 AM
That mask trick is hard to watch with a straight face - no pun intended. OK, pun intended. If was that easy, the characters in Alias should have been using these masks (and matching changed voices) all the time.

Regarding the cliffhanger, it was nothing like last season's shocker. I won't be on the edge of my seat wondering about this one. From Season 2, we already know that Jack put Sydney through Project Christmas, where kids were tested for future-spy abilities. When Sydney accused Jack of programming her to be a spy, he claimed he was only making her strong, not that he intended for her to join the family business. This is more of the same, so not a big surprise.

Neserk
May 24, 2004, 02:04 AM
. Given that "Alias" won't return until January 2005, I

WHAT??!?!?! :eek:

Doctor Q
May 24, 2004, 02:27 AM
Yes, ABC announced that no episodes would air until January 2005. Alias will be sharing or competing for its time slot with the series "Desperate Housewives" starting in the Fall. One rumor is that ABC is stalling while evaluating their choices. However, the reason given by Stephen McPherson, president of ABC Primetime Television, could be true, that by delaying the series to midseason, they can get ahead with the filming, which takes a long time because of all the location shots, and then they won't have to put so many "off" weeks or repeats in the schedule. In other words, they can show the episodes one a week for the whole sesaon.

If Alias is threatened, new site supportalias.com (http://www.supportalias.com/) has sprung up in the nick of time to let us take action.

ABC people you can contact:
Stephen McPherson, President, ABC Primetime Television
Anne Sweeney, Co-Chairman, Disney Media Networks
Kevin Brockman, Senior VP Entertainment Communications
Jeff Lindsey, Ratings/Viewership

address:
ABC, Inc.
500 S. Buena Vista St.
Building 23, Room 26
Burbank, CA 91521

alternate address:
ABC, Inc.
77 W. 66th St.
New York, NY 10023-6298


Or write to

JJ Abrams
ABC, Inc.
500 S. Buena Vista St.
Building 23, Room 26
Burbank, CA 91521

Neserk
May 24, 2004, 10:04 PM
Yes, ABC announced that no episodes would air until January 2005.

Damn. Will I get to see the reruns this summer, at least?

gop007
May 25, 2004, 05:36 PM
Damn. Will I get to see the reruns this summer, at least?

If we are lucky we might see Season 3 on DVD this summer. I bought Season 2 and borrowed Season 1. It made for some great movie watching for a few months. :)

Neserk
May 25, 2004, 08:00 PM
If we are lucky we might see Season 3 on DVD this summer. I bought Season 2 and borrowed Season 1. It made for some great movie watching for a few months. :)

That would be good. I've only seen bits and pieces of the 3 seasons. I'd love to sit down and watch them all.

iBook
May 25, 2004, 10:08 PM
Thought about buying the Alias DVDs and watching them to tide me over for the next seven months. Might be interesting to see how well the series holds up overall vs. week-to-week or week-to-month, as the production case may be ( :rolleyes: ).

Definitely hope JJ and company get the show back on track in season 4. This is one show I'd like to see play through to a reasonable, satisfying final show vs. one that collapses under convoluted story lines, viewer disinterest and network executive banishment.

Neserk
May 25, 2004, 10:10 PM
Can you rent the DVD's or do you have to purchase them?

cpjakes
May 25, 2004, 11:01 PM
Can you rent the DVD's or do you have to purchase them?

Yeah, but you have to go 3 or 4 episodes at a time. I wish the whole season would be one rental instead of 4 or 5. That's how I'm catching up on The Sopranos.

gop007
May 26, 2004, 01:26 AM
Can you rent the DVD's or do you have to purchase them?

I would recommend buying the whole season. I had never watched the first season. By watching an episode or two each night for about 2 weeks, you can follow and understand the complex plot lines much better. It makes a big difference if you watch each episode in order. This is a very complex series and there are a ton of details that can be missed or overlooked.

Doctor Q
May 30, 2004, 03:57 PM
In tonite's Alias episode, Sydney and Vaughn...



Oh, wait. I forgot. No more Alias 3rd season.

:( :( :( :(

Neserk
May 30, 2004, 04:14 PM
It not nice to tease like that... :( I was all excited for a sec.

evoluzione
May 30, 2004, 07:24 PM
at last i feel i can (somewhat) safely visit this thread!!!!!

i watched a couple of episodes of season 3, 'cause my girlfriend loved it, and i'd never seen it, was sceptical, but i started to enjoy it...rented all of season one and season two on dvd from netflix, and am so hooked, i like it even better than 24! trouble is, i now have to wait for september to see season 3 on dvd :(