Help With Fight

[thebiggoose]

Me

Hi guys, I thought I would re-introduce myself, as I havent been active lately. My name is Steven. I live in Michigan. I am 16. I am 6'7 and about 205 lbs. I'm in decent shape and have wrestled (amateur/olympic style) for 9 years. I also have a small amount of training in Jui Jitsu and Boxing.


The Situation

I have a pretty serious girlfriend. I care about her alot. There is this kid who she sort of dated over 2 years ago, we'll call him Asshat. I have never met him. He is 15, ~ 6'0, and about 275 lbs per my estimate from seeing him a couple of times. He looks really out of shape. There is another kid in one of my classes. We can call him Shortdick. Shortdick is friends with Asshat. In the last few days Shortdick has been giving me **** during class. HE is telling everyone that this Asshat, whom I have never met, is saying horribly vulgar things about my girlfriend, who she hasn't had contact with in months. The things he are saying are ruthless and I'm not gonna let someone disrespect someone I love like that.

I wanna know what strategy you guys think I should approach this with. Someone told me that they pass him in the hall at the same place and time everyday.

I don't want to get suspended or in serious trouble, but I am ready to deal with any consequences. What I'm thinking now is I'm gonna wait for the kid and blindside him into the wall. I'm not gonna swing until he does. I plan on just holding him there and making my point that he won't be saying stuff like that any longer. If all goes as planned it will end there. I he continues to spread rumors, I will find him and really hurt him. If he swings initially, I'm ready to fight. It's never good to have a plan, but I have some options I'm thinking about. If he swings wildly at my head, which I'm sure e will do, ad most people in our town are inexperienced fighters, I will hit a double leg on him and either start kicking or mount and start swinging. If it resorts to stand up fighting, I will try and hit him with a solid elbow to the nose. Then try and end it.

What do you guys think? Any Advice? (Do you think I have a decent reason for fighting?

[ab2650]

Do you think I have a decent reason for fighting?

No.

You're 16. It's not worth getting either a) the stuffing beat out of you, or b) getting tossed out of school.

I don't have doubts that you would "win" the fight, but what do you think would happen? He's not going to suddenly respect you and your girlfriend. He'll be pissed.

My advice is be the bigger person. and don't make stupid choices.

[Jschultz]

Well, the first problem is that you live in MI :D

Generally, you ought to only fight to defend yourself. I'm not a fan of confrontation, but whatever. Just ask yourself, what do YOU accomplish in the end by resorting to violence?

[lancestraz]

15 years old and 275 pounds? Holly ****!

Isn't there enough senseless violence in the world already?
Beating this kid up will do nothing except make him really mad.

[JNB]

Talk is cheap. if these things are really being said (of which you have no direct knowledge), who cares? Sounds like he's a jealous, infantile little jerk, and you've already won. She's your girlfriend now, right?

[David G.]

There's a forum member on here (I don't remember who) who has/had a sig that said something like "Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to there level and beat you with experience." While I too don't think you would lose the fight, I still believe one could gain alot from thinking about what that quote really means.

[goodtimes5]

Don't be an idiot.

[ravenvii]

You're 16.

[Fearless Leader]

well i dont think you shoulld beatup shortdick or asshat (great names btw...) but if you feel like getting kicked out of school, arrested, family sued, lives of you and those around you go to crap. sure go for it.

[zioxide]

See 30 years ago you could have just beat the **** out of them and moved on, but now you'll probably get expelled. Gotta love the wussification of america.

[shecky]

fighting is always the best way to solve a problem. look at iraq.

[Luis]

I don't understand how hitting someone may end up in a legal case, with suing and whatnot. Over here it's like a fight goes on, everyone is separated and then people go on with normal life. I don't get the point?:confused:

[ab2650]

See 30 years ago you could have just beat the **** out of them and moved on, but now you'll probably get expelled. Gotta love the wussification of america.

I suppose you would want to beat us for disagreeing with you?

I'll be the first person to tell this kid to defend himself, but this isn't defense. This is being a pissed off 16-year old male, and thinking someone is talking about someone you think you have the duty to defend their honor. With due respect, this isn't a Shakespearian tragedy.

Think of how this could turn out, OP. You have 8 years wrestling experience, plus some Jui Jitsu... You should know that one precisely placed blow can do permanent damage. In the heat of a fight, who's to say you wouldn't do that... or do it by accident.

Speaking from experience, I had a friend who pulled a 'stupid prank' and it went wrong... And he spent 18 months in prison because of it. Think about it.

[Fearless Leader]

I don't understand how hitting someone may end up in a legal case, with suing and whatnot. Over here it's like a fight goes on, everyone is separated and then people go on with normal life. I don't get the point?:confused:

Its something called assault in America, thats where all this nasty legal business comes into play. Get a good enough lawyer and lawsuit. Sue anybody for anything medical bills, trauma mental/physical, I can go on.
edit: just noticed that you're located in costa rica, sorry if my post seems harsh.

[gauchogolfer]

I don't understand how hitting someone may end up in a legal case, with suing and whatnot. Over here it's like a fight goes on, everyone is separated and then people go on with normal life. I don't get the point?
Ahh, but you don't have the wonderfully litigious society that we have. Pity.

[Counterfit]

Whatever you do, don't initiate contact.

[itsallinurhead]

Grow up.

[arkitect]

...I will find him and really hurt him...

It's never good to have a plan, but I have some options I'm thinking about.

...I will try and hit him with a solid elbow to the nose. Then try and end it.


"God bless America…"

[bartelby]

Take the moral high ground and ignore them.
It'll just escalate if you try violence.

You're kids, kids talk ***** about other kids all the time. Some grow out of it and some don't. Learn to deal with it now, or you'll be in trouble later in life.

[iBlue]

Let it go.

A. you fight, you could get sued.
A friend of mine was hit in the face and her nose was broken - the girl who broke her nose was in deep s*** for that. She was expelled and her parents were sued in a big big way. Don't get in fights with kids whose parents have good lawyers. You should never assume that they don't.

B. you fight, you could lose.
I'm a girl. The huge, twice my size, school bully picked on me one day and I wasn't taking it, I beat his ass. He didn't realize I had been practising martial arts since I was 7 years old.
You should never assume you are going to win a fight.

C. you fight, you get sued, lose, embarrass yourself, get in trouble at school and probably at home... etc.
I bet I don't need to explain further, riiiiight?


The whole thing is a bad idea. I know you're young and full of angst but it's just not worth it, not over some stupid rumour.

[Jaffa Cake]

Any Advice?Yes. Don't go beating anyone up.

[MrSmith]

Assuming you're strong enough to defend yourself verbally, just keep back at him, get him angry, and he'll either get fed up and leave you alone or lash out and give you the fight you want.

[Abstract]

If you fight one of them, you'll have to fight the other eventually, and then you'll have to fight them both one day while you're walking alone.


Don't bother. Even if you win, you'll lose.

And besides, you're dating her now. Not them. They're only saying these things because they're jealous and angry about it. They'll always be the loser, and you'll always be the winner. You walked off with the girl....."their" girl, and the obese 15 year old loser kid walks off with Shortdick.

[itcheroni]

1. DO NOT FIGHT AT SCHOOL! That is absolutely the worst place you could do it for so many reasons.

2. DO NOT SUCKER PUNCH! If you do decide to confront him. Be a man and tell him you want to fight him for what he said. Fight with some dignity. It's very likely he will just back off.

3. Yes, you could be sued. Let's say you knock him out. Send him to the hospital. Cause him permanent brain injury for life. The way damages are calculated by considering medical bills, lost wages, pain and suffering, punitive damages. Let's say you brain damage a guy for life. And, hypothetically, he made $30,000 per year at his job. And he would have worked 30 more years. Damages will be $900,000 just for his earnings. Yes, that is what you will have to pay for causing the brain damage. You don't even want to talk about pain and suffering and medical bills. This is why you will never ever see a lawyer take a punch at someone. Even if you touched the other guy on the nose with your pinky and somehow he ends up dead, because he fell down awkwardly or whatever, you will be liable for everything that happens after you touch him.

4. You cannot "consent" to a battery. If you agree to fight and get your ass handed to you. You can sue that person for battery and vice versa.

5. Being a minor does not shield you from lawsuits. Even though you might not be arrested, you can be sued. I don't know about Michigan, but most States treat kids over 14 the same as adults in court. And even if you're under 14, you're only shielded from negligence. A battery is intentional. If you were 7 or under, then you would be shielded from intentional torts(possibly).

[Lau]

Of course, it could all be a cunning plan on the part of Asshat and Shortdick, and beating up Asshat could mean that your girlfriend thinks you're a dick (of undetermined length) for kicking someone's head in as, frankly, any self respecting girl would. She leaves you for your agressive dickish behaviour, and decides that Asshat didn't seem so bad after all (and as it happens, it all turned out to be untrue rumours anyway).

Alternatively, she thinks you and Asshat are idiots for fighting, and decides Shortdick (in spite of his diminutive member) seems like quite a nice guy as he decided to stay out of the childish fighting, and goes out with him. Which is what he wanted all along, hence spreading the rumours.

Ignoring the fact that beating someone up is idiotic anyway, I would be very suspicious of a friend spreading rumors about another of their friends – what's in it for them, and why would they put you before their friend, unless it's to stir things up?

[Cromulent]

fighting is always the best way to solve a problem. look at iraq.

Hahaha. Best post I've seen in weeks.

[edesignuk]

Wonder how you'd handle it if you were 5'7 and 130lbs, hmmmmm.

edit: just re-read the OP, this bit particularly tickles me:If he swings wildly at my head, which I'm sure e will do, ad most people in our town are inexperienced fighters, I will hit a double leg on him and either start kicking or mount and start swinging. If it resorts to stand up fighting, I will try and hit him with a solid elbow to the nose. Then try and end it.http://forums.macrumors.com/image.php?u=75541&dateline=1167159038&type=profile (http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?u=75541)

You're so tough, you show that little man who's boss :rolleyes:

[teleromeo]

make love, not war ...

[PlaceofDis]

make love, not war ...

words to live by

[iBlue]

"think you can take me?"

http://upc.edesignuk.com/uploads/smilies/bigchillpill.gif

[Dagless]

Grow up.

Wait, he's 15 now and was going out with her for 2 years? They started dating at 13 (at the latest!)? Wow.
I thought I was young having a serious g/f at 14 :rolleyes:

[Lau]

make love, not war ...

or mount and start swinging...

He is possibly considering this...

[iGav]

Here, back in the olden days... a gentlemanly way of settling such a thing would be a duel.

Do you both own guns? if not... I guess swords would work as well.

Tally-ho.

[bartelby]

Here, back in the olden days... a gentlemanly way of settling such a thing would be a duel.

Do you both own guns? if not... I guess swords would work as well.

Tally-ho.

They're in the US, so I guess guns would be easy to come by...

[JNB]

They're in the US, so I guess guns would be easy to come by...

Or Finland, even easier. Besides, duels are so European...

[jessica.]

Me

Hi guys, I thought I would re-introduce myself, as I havent been active lately. My name is Steven. I live in Michigan. I am 16. I am 6'7 and about 205 lbs. I'm in decent shape and have wrestled (amateur/olympic style) for 9 years. I also have a small amount of training in Jui Jitsu and Boxing.

The Situation

I have a pretty serious girlfriend. I care about her alot. There is this kid who she sort of dated over 2 years ago, we'll call him Asshat. I have never met him. He is 15, ~ 6'0, and about 275 lbs per my estimate from seeing him a couple of times. He looks really out of shape. There is another kid in one of my classes. We can call him Shortdick. Shortdick is friends with Asshat. In the last few days Shortdick has been giving me **** during class. HE is telling everyone that this Asshat, whom I have never met, is saying horribly vulgar things about my girlfriend, who she hasn't had contact with in months. The things he are saying are ruthless and I'm not gonna let someone disrespect someone I love like that.

First of all, comparing yourself to her ex who she claims she has not contacted in months (and you do not appear to have anything to prove nor disprove she is not in contact with him) is pointless. To say that you are somehow better suited or better in general given your very confident appearance of yourself is lame and clearly only shows that you lack the emotional maturity to even say you "care for" and "love" this girl. I'm not doubting that you think you love her and it is possible, but it appears if you believe that your appearance somehow gives you a leg up then I'm going to question the maturity level right here. Not to mention, if you define another individual by the mere size of their member then again, I'm going to question the maturity level here.


I wanna know what strategy you guys think I should approach this with. Someone told me that they pass him in the hall at the same place and time everyday.

I don't want to get suspended or in serious trouble, but I am ready to deal with any consequences. What I'm thinking now is I'm gonna wait for the kid and blindside him into the wall. I'm not gonna swing until he does. I plan on just holding him there and making my point that he won't be saying stuff like that any longer. If all goes as planned it will end there. I he continues to spread rumors, I will find him and really hurt him. If he swings initially, I'm ready to fight. It's never good to have a plan, but I have some options I'm thinking about. If he swings wildly at my head, which I'm sure e will do, ad most people in our town are inexperienced fighters, I will hit a double leg on him and either start kicking or mount and start swinging. If it resorts to stand up fighting, I will try and hit him with a solid elbow to the nose. Then try and end it.

You do not want to get into trouble. Ok. But hey, second thought..."I'm going to blindside him." Ok. Wait, "I'm not gonna swing until he does." Ok. I'd like it very much if you'd focus on making up your mind rather than trying to find out if you have cause for fighting.

What do you guys think? Any Advice? (Do you think I have a decent reason for fighting?
My advice is there is never a reason for fighting. Fighting does not prove anything more than you are physically capable of leveling the "out of shape" kid that you so desire to level. A woman, and I speak as a woman, at any age should know that no man is declaring their love or defending their honor in any way when they resort to fighting. What a man or a boy in your case, tells me when the resort to fighting for purposes of honor lacks intelligence, lacks dignity, and only showed me that he will in fact resort to punching given any opportunity.

If a man loves me and opts to stand up in my defense if another man is being offensive then being able to speak to the offender. If it does not stop then you did your best. It would appear that your girlfriend either does not know about the offense or if she does then in time she'll realize that high school is brutal, rumors go far but they generally stop in high school. Both of you should focus your efforts on your future either together or separately. You focus on your "good physical appearance" and let her focus on whatever she does well or is into. Eventually the kid will get exhausted with the constant lack of attention and go away.

The exception to the fighting rule is that if a man comes up and starts to get physical with me (aka attempts to hit me) and another man is with me, I then give full permission to ward him off at any cost in an effort to protect me. To protect yourself or your loved one is one thing, to defend someone's honor from nasty rumors is another.

However, my guess is you want advice but the wall of text has lost you so I'll sum it up...
Grow up little boy, fighting never solves anything.

[eyemacg5]

Hahaha. Best post I've seen in weeks.

Agreed.

[dogtanian]

Ah mate, really?

Grow up please. The only people I know over 13 that fight are the drunk football hooligans that stumble outta my local pub and I doubt they satyed in school long. Theirs more important things in life (Like your girlfriend perhaps!?).

[Dagless]

Has the OP realised yet that perhaps her old boyfriend is bitter and jealous?

[Raid]

<snip>
The Situation
There is another kid in one of my classes. We can call him Shortdick. Shortdick is friends with Asshat. In the last few days Shortdick has been giving me **** during class. HE is telling everyone that this Asshat, whom I have never met, is saying horribly vulgar things about my girlfriend, who she hasn't had contact with in months.Ok, first a physical confrontation is a bad idea, the best reason of all is your martial arts training. Approaching anyone in anger in your situation makes you look like the aggressor that pushed Asshat (or is it Shortdick... I mean do you really know who's saying what about whom?) into a defensive position where they are defending themselves against you. The attack you describe is violent and malevolent and would be seen as such by the authorities especially if your martial arts training is revealed.

I know your angry about what is supposedly being said, but before you entertain thoughts of decimating this guy get your facts straight about:
1. what is being said
2. who is saying them
3. what your girlfriend thinks of the whole situation

If it's truly upsetting your gf then try every above-board method of resolving the situation peaceably and with the 'rules' on your side. Your current mode of thinking is why my dojo is very cautious about training certain individuals and kids your age. Take the pill Dr. iBlue prescribed and post back in the morning. :rolleyes:

[jng]

jeez, what a dumb thread. i'd wasteland this. or at least lock it. increasing threads about personal problems here and the idea that violence can be a solution really ruin this place.

might as well change the forum name to, "ask MR..."

[Iscariot]

If he's not cowering in fear the next time he sees you, you didn't beat him hard enough.

Go for the joints.

[zioxide]

I don't understand how hitting someone may end up in a legal case, with suing and whatnot. Over here it's like a fight goes on, everyone is separated and then people go on with normal life. I don't get the point?:confused:

Like I said, back in the day this is exactly what would have happened.

Now people are whiney bitches and they have to talk **** out with words. And if for some reason there is a fight, everyone gets litigation-happy after and it doesn't really solve anything.

[pseudobrit]

In the last few days Shortdick has been giving me **** during class.

HTFU.

Only reason to throw down is if you (or one of your mates) have been assaulted or are about to be.

[leekohler]

HTFU.

Only reason to throw down is if you (or one of your mates) have been assaulted or are about to be.

Exactly. This kind of p***ing contest is ridiculous. To the OP- you really wanna prove you're a tough guy? Ignore these guys. Right now you're sounding pretty juvenile.

[skunk]

I think you should take the mounting and swinging option. Sounds like fun.

[it5five]

1. Get off the 'roids. You'll find that you are less prone to random bouts of anger.

Probelm solved.

[leekohler]

I think you should take the mounting and swinging option. Sounds like fun.

Stop it! You're making me think bad thoughts. :)

[MacNut]

I think you should take the mounting and swinging option. Sounds like fun.Just wear protection.....head gear and such.:p

Is fighting over a girl really ever the answer, its not like your married to this person, and at 16 I doubt you even know what love is.

[ab2650]

It's hard to see who's being entirely serious on this thread, but there are certain folks who I would consider to be egging him on.

So how does it feel that you're telling a minor that he should go pick a fight with someone? Regardless of the whole "legal repercussions" angle, what would make individuals like zioxide, Luis, iGav, and Iscariot want to get an obviously confused 16-year-old into a fight with someone?

Whether or not you think "talking, not fighting, is the p***yfication of America," advocating, let alone condoning, a kid to start a fight at school is the most hair-brained idea ever.

[leekohler]

Like I said, back in the day this is exactly what would have happened.

Now people are whiney bitches and they have to talk **** out with words. And if for some reason there is a fight, everyone gets litigation-happy after and it doesn't really solve anything.

You're kidding, right? So possibly knocking out someone's teeth or breaking their skull sounds like a good idea to you? Solving problems without violence is a pretty damn good idea in my book.

[Rodimus Prime]

Do not waste you time. There are times and places where fighting is worth it. This is not one of them. You are just looking you get your self put into a hospitable. First off he is a hell of a lot bigger than you. 2nd off you will be out numbers. if you are the aggressor you are going jump by multiple people. First rule in this type of thing is never try a fair fight. You always want to be on the stronger side.

He only has to get one good hit on you are out.

It is not worth it. You do not have anything to prove. He is really only doing harm to himself in the way he is acting.
Oh and if he out numbers you he not going to get shame in it for not fighting with "honor" it all fair game because of how the fight would start. First rule is never fight fair.

[zioxide]

You're kidding, right? So possibly knocking out someone's teeth or breaking their skull sounds like a good idea to you? Solving problems without violence is a pretty damn good idea in my book.

Yeah, if you knock their tooth out they're not going to start **** again. Problem solved.

Talking with them isn't going to do ****.

Unfortunately with our society now, you can't do that. So have fun trying to talk it out because it's not really going to do anything.

[leekohler]

Yeah, if you knock their tooth out they're not going to start **** again. Problem solved.

Talking with them isn't going to do ****.



Really? You really think it would end there? If someone knocked my tooth out I can tell you that they'd just doused a fire with gasoline. You seem to be under the assumption that a fight just ends with that one fight. It doesn't- that's why fighting doesn't solve anything. It just keeps going. That- and it's insanely immature.

[Keebler]

biggoose, it sounds like you are physically the bigger man, but time to mentally be the bigger man and let it go. talk is cheap and this loser will look just like that...a loser.

if you smack him up, then you'll be a loser. just let it go.

plus, sounds like you're a 'small' guy playing sports. you might have a collegiate career in wrestling or football. why potentially mess with that over some schmuck?

she's your GF so just hang with her. and if she's upset by the idiot, tell her not to worry. chances are she'll just want you to reassure her it's not bad. anyone who knows your GF will know the stuff the loser is spreading is nonsense so in the end, mean nothing it will.

cheers,
Keebler

[Keebler]

jeez, what a dumb thread. i'd wasteland this. or at least lock it. increasing threads about personal problems here and the idea that violence can be a solution really ruin this place.

might as well change the forum name to, "ask MR..."

it's not 'ask MR'...it's in the 'community' section.

i think it's ok for ppl to vent and ask questions.

some kids don't do that and then walk into schools with guns and open up.

sometimes talking about feelings and thoughts helps people. may sound silly that one needs help from a forum of typed responses from virtual ppl, but if it works, don't knock it.

we can all be friends....

[jessica.]

It's hard to see who's being entirely serious on this thread, but there are certain folks who I would consider to be egging him on.

So how does it feel that you're telling a minor that he should go pick a fight with someone? Regardless of the whole "legal repercussions" angle, what would make individuals like zioxide, Luis, iGav, and Iscariot want to get an obviously confused 16-year-old into a fight with someone?

Whether or not you think "talking, not fighting, is the p***yfication of America," advocating, let alone condoning, a kid to start a fight at school is the most hair-brained idea ever.
When a person seeks advice such as this, medical advice, love advice, etc. from a forum such as this then he/she needs to be aware of the myriad of bad advice they will inevitably receive.
In other words, this kid needs a parent or two to talk to. Not a bunch of *******s (me included) in a mac forum.

[leekohler]

When a person seeks advice such as this, medical advice, love advice, etc. from a forum such as this then he/she needs to be aware of the myriad of bad advice they will inevitably receive.
In other words, this kid needs a parent or two to talk to. Not a bunch of *******s (me included) in a mac forum.

You're absolutely right.

[119576]

When a person seeks advice such as this, medical advice, love advice, etc. from a forum such as this then he/she needs to be aware of the myriad of bad advice they will inevitably receive.
In other words, this kid needs a parent or two to talk to. Not a bunch of *******s (me included) in a mac forum.


Sound advice.

Go with this OP.

[Dagless]

If you do hit the guy I hope you do sue him.

Oh, and your girlfriend, if she's worth her salt, will think badly of you for hitting someone weaker. The only time (as has been said) to fight for someone's "honour" is when they're getting attacked or if it's something serious. Which doesn't include name calling.

[pseudobrit]

Yeah, if you knock their tooth out they're not going to start **** again. Problem solved.

Talking with them isn't going to do ****.

Unfortunately with our society now, you can't do that. So have fun trying to talk it out because it's not really going to do anything.

Fighting only solves problems in bars and hockey games. And then only because the participants are thrown out.

[mactastic]

What do you guys think? Any Advice? (Do you think I have a decent reason for fighting?
Absolutely not. Particularly after telegraphing your intentions to harm someone on the internet.

Outside of armed conflict (ie. war) there is only one justifiable excuse for physical violence, and that is to protect you or someone else from imminent physical harm.

Any decent martial trainer should have taught you that.

[absolut_mac]

Help With Fight

Fighting is just plain stupid and a sure way to get hurt and/or into trouble.

The art of self defense is making sure that you stay in one piece - often times that means using the Nike defense i.e. you run away as fast as you can.

For more about REALISTIC self defense, and where I was first introduced to the Nike defense, see the very informative site listed below.

http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/

[Rodimus Prime]

Fighting only solves problems in bars and hockey games. And then only because the participants are thrown out.


Speaking of hockey games some of the fights are agreed to ahead of time by the players of each team. I will say a hockey fight is pretty cool when you see the gloves come off.

[Luis]

It's hard to see who's being entirely serious on this thread, but there are certain folks who I would consider to be egging him on.

So how does it feel that you're telling a minor that he should go pick a fight with someone? Regardless of the whole "legal repercussions" angle, what would make individuals like zioxide, Luis, iGav, and Iscariot want to get an obviously confused 16-year-old into a fight with someone?

Whether or not you think "talking, not fighting, is the p***yfication of America," advocating, let alone condoning, a kid to start a fight at school is the most hair-brained idea ever.

Wait a second. I am not encouraging him to fight. I'm just making a comment on how different society works on our countries, and how it seems amazing to me that you can get prosecuted for a high school fight. But I am not encouraging him to fight, even more, I could care less if he hits the kid or not.

[mactastic]

Like I said, back in the day this is exactly what would have happened.

Now people are whiney bitches and they have to talk **** out with words. And if for some reason there is a fight, everyone gets litigation-happy after and it doesn't really solve anything.
And fighting does solve things?:confused:

[ab2650]

Wait a second. I am not encouraging him to fight. I'm just making a comment on how different society works on our countries, and how it seems amazing to me that you can get prosecuted for a high school fight. But I am not encouraging him to fight, even more, I could care less if he hits the kid or not.

I reread your post, and I agree I shouldn't have included you in the one's egging him on. Your statement is exactly what you say; It just didn't fall into the category of (to me) obviously the OP shouldn't start a fight at school.

Jessica hit the nail on the head and I vote for her being the most rational human being on this forum. Kudos!

[Abstract]

make love, not war ...
words to live by

So who should he make love to first? I suggest Asshat. Shortdick doesn't sound as......appealing.

[dsnort]

"Violence is the first option and the last resort of the truly competent"-Jeff Cooper

"Avoid fights. There is always someone more clever than yourself"- Bruce Lee

You're 16 years old, don't do something that can screw up the next 40 years of your life.

[mariahlullaby]

In these post-Columbine days, you aren't just going to get suspended. You will probably be arrested, and face serious charges.

And do you think your girlfriend will love that you beat the crap out of some guy?

[eric55lv]

kick him in the nuts hard

[yg17]

kick him in the nuts hard


That'll solve the problem :rolleyes:


Did you even read the entire thread?

[MacNut]

Has the op even come back?

[Abstract]

He's dead. ****!! You see, we all told him not to get into that fight. :(

[Sirus The Virus]

well i dont think you shoulld beatup shortdick or asshat (great names btw...) but if you feel like getting kicked out of school, arrested, family sued, lives of you and those around you go to crap. sure go for it.

Chances are if that kid is 15 and 275 pounds he's already halfway through with his life anyway. Don't get in a fight. It's hardly worth it. Oh, and you're 16.

Your avatar had me convinced there was a bug on m screen. I tried to get if off but it wasn't moving! AHHH!:eek:

[edesignuk]

Has the op even come back?He's too busy dishing out some whoop-ass. boo-yah!

[Jaffa Cake]

He's too busy dishing out some whoop-ass. boo-yah!Or too busy trying to scrape together his bail money...

[thebiggoose]

Back Guys.

*To whoever said that my girlfriend and Asshat had been dating for 2 years, you misunderstood. It wasn't serious and it was only a couple weeks. It was 2 years ago that this happened.

*To whoever said that I don't know what love is-I'm sorry if you haven't felt love at that age. Did your parents not love you? That is feeling love. Some people mature emotionally faster than others. If you plan on saying "Fighting is immature", then read on.

*Everyone who commented about the ridiculousness of America, with our lawsuits and pussyfication galore - I believe you are right, but it's not what I think that matters.

*So here's what happened- I was fired up when I made that post. I thought about it and realized that fighting would probably give validity to anything the kid said. I realized I wasn't going to fight Asshat. I don't even know him. I was going to get to the bottom of this ****. I was still upset, but only because my girlfriend was hurt. She doesn't care about what Asshat has to say, it's complicated. I'll try to explain. My girlfriend lost 60 pounds in the last year. She used to be kinda chubby and now she is beautiful, and perfectly shaped (not that I care how she's shaped). Some of the comments that were made were regarding her weight. It bothered her that she worked so hard to lose weight and people still give her ****. I got really pissed when I saw her crying and I comforted her. The next day in school, yesterday, I came into the class I have with Shortdick. As soon as he sat down he just started talking to everyone around him with a nonstop stream of insults about my girlfriend. So I got up and told him "If you are gonna talk crap about my girlfriend, do it to my face." Everyone in my class was surprised because Shortdick is a "hardass" and people don't stand up to him because he's been to jail and such. So he stood up and got inches away from my face and tried o stare me down. When I didn't break the stare, he looked a way and mumbled a comment about my girlfriend. I just grabbed him by the throat and threw him onto the table (It was Pottery class, they are big, heavy tables). I told him that he is gonna quit spreading rumors, and quit talking crap. By that time, our teacher had noticed something and came over. She sent us to "Peer Mediation", where you go to talk out issues with "peers". We went down and talked it out. It turns out he was in a rage because his girlfriend found out that he had sex with 2 other girls and dumped him. He figured that it would be easy to pick on someone so people wouldn't give him ****. So he made that crap up. So if I hurt Asshat, I'd really feel like the Asshat. But me and Shortdick talked it out. I gave Shortdick a nice handshake ;) and now we're fine.

Thanks fir listening and advice everyone.

[edesignuk]

Spiffy, well done old chap.

I must say I did find your choice of anonymous naming convention extremely amusing, thank you :D

[bartelby]

I gave Shortdick a nice handshake ;) and now we're fine.


You became real close buddies really fast!!

That's good!

[pseudobrit]

*Everyone who commented about the ridiculousness of America, with our lawsuits and pussyfication galore - I believe you are right, but it's not what I think that matters.

Sure it is. Being a wimp is having to resort to fisticuffs because someone's talking smack. You either laugh it off or shovel it back at them. If your first reaction is to fight, you've lost control of the situation and yourself and have shown your weakness.

I'm glad you were able to resolve the conflict with as little physical confrontation as possible.