View Full Version : Boot Camp Beta Expires December 31st
MacRumors
Nov 28, 2007, 03:50 PM
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Apple emailed those who downloaded the Boot Camp beta and let them know that with the introduction of Leopard, Boot Camp Beta is over. The Boot Camp Beta software will expire on December 31, and Apple won't offer further updates of Boot Camp Beta for Mac OS X Tiger.
Boot Camp allows Intel-Mac owners to dual-boot into Windows. It is now a standard feature of Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard).
Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/11/28/boot-camp-beta-expires-december-31st/)
kornyboy
Nov 28, 2007, 03:53 PM
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That kind of stinks for people not wanting to upgrade just yet.
That is if they mean it won't work when they say "expire."
PlaceofDis
Nov 28, 2007, 03:56 PM
That kind of stinks for people not wanting to upgrade just yet.
its not like this is breaking news. its always been said that it would expire once leopard was released.
ross.32
Nov 28, 2007, 03:56 PM
Just because they do not offer updates, could we still use it as it? Or does it just stop working?
kornyboy
Nov 28, 2007, 04:12 PM
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That kind of stinks for people not wanting to upgrade just yet.
its not like this is breaking news. its always been said that it would expire once leopard was released.
True, but does expiring mean that it won't work at all or that they are discontinuing updates? I'm just curious.
ITASOR
Nov 28, 2007, 04:40 PM
Bootcamp is just the utility. If you already used it to partition and install Windows, nothing is going to change with that (pretty sure). It's possible the bootcamp app may no longer work, but I'm sure someone will figure something out. ;)
macaddiict
Nov 28, 2007, 04:40 PM
I agree - I wasn't clear from the email whether the beta software will keep working or if it has some sort of time bomb built in... hopefully it will just keep chugging along without updates. Anything else would be horrible on Apple's part.
Eidorian
Nov 28, 2007, 04:42 PM
*yawn*
Burn your drive disc or save the image. It'll be a pain to partition but you didn't really have to use Boot Camp to begin with.
SeanMcg
Nov 28, 2007, 04:43 PM
Bootcamp is just the utility. If you already used it to partition and install Windows, nothing is going to change with that (pretty sure). It's possible the bootcamp app may no longer work, but I'm sure someone will figure something out. ;)
However, if you need to remove the Windows partition, or if you replace the hard drive and need to re-configure, you will need to change your system time in order to run to the BootCamp Assistant Beta. This comes straight from Apple (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306805)
Apple just won't update the drivers or functionality of the beta.
dukebound85
Nov 28, 2007, 05:35 PM
Just because they do not offer updates, could we still use it as it? Or does it just stop working?
it works but you will be unable to delete the partition with bootcamp assistant
UNLESS you go back and change your system clock to a date before it expired
Schtumple
Nov 28, 2007, 07:45 PM
Wasn't this said months ago and no-one really complained?
Why kick up a small stink about it now?
bluebomberman
Nov 28, 2007, 08:50 PM
Wasn't this said months ago and no-one really complained?
Why kick up a small stink about it now?
It's like tax time. Everybody knows it's coming but some people still aren't ready for the time suck and the financial hit.
dvkid
Nov 28, 2007, 10:26 PM
It's like tax time. Everybody knows it's coming but some people still aren't ready for the time suck and the financial hit.
I couldn't find where on Apple.com you can go to file your extension... :D
CommodityFetish
Nov 29, 2007, 12:13 AM
I wonder if they ever would have released it as a beta if people hadn't hacked a way to do it, forcing apple's hand, as it were, to save their user base from the messy process of the hack, and the support issues etc...
On the other hand, it has helped them sell macs in those 18 months... so maybe it was in the cards all along.
Doctor Q
Nov 29, 2007, 12:41 AM
I think the email is a nice reminder wrapped in a thank-you wrapped in a sales pitch. Good job, Apple.
MidiMonk
Nov 29, 2007, 02:38 AM
Apple must have realized I was planning on purchasing XP pro instead of Leopard.:eek:
Sharewaredemon
Nov 29, 2007, 02:41 AM
If you install leopard, does that mean that you also have the proper non-beta version of bootcamp?
seems like a silly question, but I already had bootcamp installed in tiger, and a windows partition up and running when I installed tiger so I feel the leopard installation didn't touch my windows partition.
dukebound85
Nov 29, 2007, 03:12 AM
If you install leopard, does that mean that you also have the proper non-beta version of bootcamp?
seems like a silly question, but I already had bootcamp installed in tiger, and a windows partition up and running when I installed tiger so I feel the leopard installation didn't touch my windows partition.
yup. leopard didnt touch install but overwrote bootcamp so you can select the drive as well as run the assistant
demenas
Nov 29, 2007, 04:04 AM
Just because they do not offer updates, could we still use it as it? Or does it just stop working?
I don't think there is anything to stop you booting into Windows. Boot Camp is not a boot loader and plays no part in your system's ability to bootup into Windows. I imagine what you will not be able to do is run the tool to ceate the driver disk & edit partitions. (I think all the partitioning tasks can be done from terminal if you know the utilities & syntax to run).
Steve
demenas
Nov 29, 2007, 04:05 AM
it works but you will be unable to delete the partition with bootcamp assistant
UNLESS you go back and change your system clock to a date before it expired
Or you do it from terminal using the native OS X partitioning command(s).
Steve
mkaake
Nov 29, 2007, 06:03 AM
Well, they pulled the installer the same weekend Leopard was introduced (which sucked, because I had some trouble-shooting to do on a bootcamp partition, and couldn't update the utility or find it anywhere for download anymore), so unless you already have the most up to date version (is it 1.4?), you're kind of stuck already.
As for the beta not working anymore, I've heard that the (extremely cheesy) clock trick works - just back yourself up in time, and it'll continue to work if you need to get something done.
twoodcc
Nov 29, 2007, 07:36 AM
glad that they are moving on. wouldn't surprise me if they sell you a version for tiger though
RichardI
Nov 29, 2007, 07:46 AM
Err...so what? I have Tiger, BootCamp Beta installed and running smoothly. I installed the ATI video drivers over the Boot Camp ones anyway. Why would I even care about this? I think this is a non-issue isn't it??:confused:
Rich :cool:
awatiker
Nov 29, 2007, 09:12 AM
The only part of this I find surprising is the fact that you can not remove Boot Camp after December 31. Obviously knowledgeable users can trick the system by changing the clock, but for the less informed, it doesn't seem very user friendly that they can not run the assistant just to remove the partition, unless I'm confused about how this will work.
george maringer
Nov 29, 2007, 11:08 AM
It has been confirmed by my apple representative that users will not be able to access their bootcamp partition after 12/31/2007.
All files on the partition will be there but you will not be able to access them until you switch to Leopard.
dukebound85
Nov 29, 2007, 11:11 AM
It has been confirmed by my apple representative that users will not be able to access their bootcamp partition after 12/31/2007.
All files on the partition will be there but you will not be able to access them until you switch to Leopard.
wrong!
i had a previous beta that had expired. you can still boot windows just fine just cant run the assistant
Eidorian
Nov 29, 2007, 11:11 AM
It has been confirmed by my apple representative that users will not be able to access their bootcamp partition after 12/31/2007.
All files on the partition will be there but you will not be able to access them until you switch to Leopard.Uh, how?
Unless they put some nasty boot loader timer.
mattibek
Nov 29, 2007, 11:49 AM
I think George is correct. The expiration of Bootcamp utility that already happened is I believe different from this new expiration on Dec 31st. They extended Bootcamp downloads due only to the delayed release date of Loepard. Call Applecare and find out directly instead of guessing so that your not frustrated if Bootcamp does stop working. Like it was said earlier in the thread, Apple is thanking you for trying and testing a Beta for them for FREE and now the trial is over and if you want to keep using something you have until this point expected to get for free well guess what somebody wants to get paid for all there hard work bringing you something really cool that they could have never given you at all and tested it in house only until Leopard, thats life! (All of that said nicely in an e-mail from Apple)
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