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MacRumors
Sep 24, 2003, 07:00 AM
Vote: Poll: Can you roll your tongue? (http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=281)



dilg
Sep 24, 2003, 08:43 AM
Are you serious? I thought everyone could roll theirs.

coumerelli
Sep 24, 2003, 08:47 AM
Both my wife and i can roll our tongues, but something she can do that I can't is flip it over (upside down). Crazy people! ;)

jrv3034
Sep 24, 2003, 09:17 AM
Yep, ever since elementary school. And I can also flip it upside-down. Freaked out my classmates!:D

bennetsaysargh
Sep 24, 2003, 09:33 AM
here's the daily, "why isn't there a option for?" maybe?

Mr. Anderson
Sep 24, 2003, 09:36 AM
interesting link on the info....I can roll my tongue and my wife can't....

And in this case there isn't a maybe - you can or you can't ;)

D

bennetsaysargh
Sep 24, 2003, 09:52 AM
well,i think it'spossible to partially do it, so i think that that's in the middle of the choices:p

Mr.Hey
Sep 24, 2003, 09:53 AM
:D

I use my rolled tongue to sip the rest of the soy-bean milk that I didn't get with my spoon...yummy yummy!

Mr. Anderson
Sep 24, 2003, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
well,i think it'spossible to partially do it, so i think that that's in the middle of the choices:p

Is this what you can do, or do you know someone who can only do it a bit....

But what do you mean about partially? That you can bend it? I can roll it into a tube and blow air down the middle....

D

tazo
Sep 24, 2003, 10:02 AM
i don't think I can...I have seen the looks my friend gets from girls when he does his 'look i can write an essay with my tongue' look ;)

usersince86
Sep 24, 2003, 10:09 AM
No biggie, but I can whistle after rolling my tongue (i.e. I can whistle with my tongue in that rolled-up position).

I have met only one other person who shares this *odd* trait... and only a few who care!

:D

Chealion
Sep 24, 2003, 10:49 AM
Yes, yes I can. These polls get funnier by the day :)

Raid
Sep 24, 2003, 11:26 AM
I can roll my tongue, but that's nothing compared to a girl I dated. She could do this 'four-leafed-clover' thing with hers. It was very bizarre, but strangely alluring... ;)

Raid

ibjoshua
Sep 24, 2003, 11:27 AM
of course. and sideways left and right.

i_b_joshua

Sonofhaig
Sep 24, 2003, 11:36 AM
.....but I don't do it often because it tends to speed up and get away from me.

helmsc
Sep 24, 2003, 11:39 AM
wtf does the have to do with computer stuff? This is more rediculous than the debate about a 2 button mouse from Apple :p

TheFish
Sep 24, 2003, 11:49 AM
man, macpolls is really out of ideas. well i cant roll my tounge, i cant even wistle. well some times i can on a good day. i have an idea for the next poll, do a poll on how many people stil use os9 im cruious. and if not that, how many people have webbed toes.

granex
Sep 24, 2003, 11:57 AM
Well, this is an odd poll. The categories aren't quite complete either, since there should be a category for rolling the tongue up (fairly common) or backward (much more rare).

I'm a geneticist, so this is a chance to educate. You can read a little more about this in the Online Mendelian Inheritence in Man:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Omim/dispmim?189300

pbooktebo
Sep 24, 2003, 12:05 PM
So far, the results are consistent with the average for the population (around 70% can, as this is a dominant genetic trait).

I couldn't find many interesting links, but here's one:
http://www.bartleby.com/64/C004/029.html

Hey, no tongue-rolling smilie? :(

edenwaith
Sep 24, 2003, 12:11 PM
What next? Can our new iMacs roll their disc drives? Hmmm...

I can roll my tongue and even learned how to go cross-eyed.

The side article is kind of interesting. My brother used to not be able to roll his tongue, but he 'trained' himself to be able to do it by using his hands and over time, he was able to do it naturally.

tpjunkie
Sep 24, 2003, 12:51 PM
I can roll my tongue, flip it over, and do the 4 leaf clover thing...which at first glance may not seem like its got much use....


but think about it ;)

baby duck monge
Sep 24, 2003, 01:23 PM
i can do the clover thing, but not the regular rolling. oh well...

bograt
Sep 24, 2003, 01:38 PM
I am not the worlds greatest biologist but I do pretty damn well and it is absolute rubbish to even suggest having a maybe on the can you do it or not! This is no time for being a fool, it is genetics and for this characteristic it is a straightforward case of yes or no - there is no in-between, the clover thing is a different case - I'm not sure what people are talking about but I think I've seen it - anyone care to send in a specemin?

wdw_
Sep 24, 2003, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by tpjunkie
I can roll my tongue, flip it over, and do the 4 leaf clover thing...
Same here. I can also make my tounge go up and down faster than anybody I know. It allows me to do really funny voices and that thing that they say only middle-eastern women do. You know, where they yell "lalalalala...". It might not sound that special, but somehow my voice does something that I can't explain. it's like my voice jumps up and down an octave in the course of one "la". It's really freaky.:p

Phil Of Mac
Sep 24, 2003, 02:34 PM
What is the four-leaf clover thing?

Perhaps there are more tongue-rollers because it provides an evolutionary advantage. I'll let you figure out the rest.

Centris 650
Sep 24, 2003, 03:06 PM
I can't do it. My wife can and my 2 year old son can. He'll be playing and stick his tongue out and roll it but when I try (and fail) he just laughs at me. No respect, even from my son!

:p See even the smiley can't do it. ;)

j33pd0g
Sep 24, 2003, 03:17 PM
No tongue rolling here. I also can't tie stuff into a knot. I had a girlfriend once that could tie a cherry stem into a knot. I think her cherry stem tying is something I'll always miss.

MacFan25
Sep 24, 2003, 03:48 PM
I can roll it and flip it over part of the way! :D

Doctor Q
Sep 24, 2003, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Perhaps there are more tongue-rollers because it provides an evolutionary advantage.See tazo's previous post for the evidence. He said "I have seen the looks my friend gets from girls when he does his 'look i can write an essay with my tongue' look". So there's ironclad proof that tongue-rollers have the advantage when finding mates.

Jerry Spoon
Sep 24, 2003, 03:50 PM
Running out of poll ideas?;)

pimentoLoaf
Sep 24, 2003, 03:51 PM
:confused:

Are Scandinavians more likely to mate with earwax-laden Northern Englanders if they can roll their tongues, or is it only with non-tongue rolling Iranians?

Snowy_River
Sep 24, 2003, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by bograt
...it is genetics and for this characteristic it is a straightforward case of yes or no ...

Well, actually, the preponderance of data seems to suggest that it isn't genetic. So, there could be "I'm still learning - so, sort of". However, in principle, I'd agree that this is properly a yes or no question. Either you can or you can't. If you're still learning, then the answer is no.



P.S. I can roll my tongue, and I can tie cherry stems into knots...

eyelikeart
Sep 24, 2003, 04:29 PM
I cannot roll it...but...

I can do this wicked trick with it that gets the ladies everytime... :D ;)

iLilana
Sep 24, 2003, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by wdw_
Same here. I can also make my tounge go up and down faster than anybody I know. It allows me to do really funny voices and that thing that they say only middle-eastern women do. You know, where they yell "lalalalala...". It might not sound that special, but somehow my voice does something that I can't explain. it's like my voice jumps up and down an octave in the course of one "la". It's really freaky.:p

I want to marry you:p

Lyle
Sep 24, 2003, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
I can roll my tongue and my wife can't...Don't fret. With some practice on her part (and patience on yours), your wife may some day be able to roll your tongue.

MrMacMan
Sep 24, 2003, 06:33 PM
Yes.


To bring a more important question:

Oh my God, why was this even a question?

I find it troubling when we get *very* far away from the Mac Topics...


How about of
'what was your favorite rumor that never made it'
1) iWalk
2) Video iPods
3) Mac Os X on PC
4) (Original) PowerMac G5

Something...

Doctor Q
Sep 24, 2003, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by pimentoLoaf
Are Scandinavians more likely to mate with earwax-laden Northern Englanders if they can roll their tongues, or is it only with non-tongue rolling Iranians?I expect to see exactly that as tomorrow's poll question. Unless it is "How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?"

wdlove
Sep 24, 2003, 08:04 PM
No, no I can't roll my tongue! My wife can't either!

The Grimace
Sep 24, 2003, 08:15 PM
...also chew gum and walk, pat my head and rub my belly (and vice versa), wiggle my ears, lift one eyebrow at a time, do the Moonwalk, and any number of other stupid human tricks.

'Course, being A.D.D., these were survival skills in school...

(tig)

scem0
Sep 24, 2003, 10:09 PM
Hell yeah! I can do a lot with my tongue....

ok this post is quickly getting sexual. ;)

scem0

Chilton
Sep 24, 2003, 11:43 PM
My Grandmother, an English teacher, used to tell us very sadly that because she and my Grandfather did not inherit this gene, that their kids could not do this. Then my Uncle, her son, one day showed me that he could. I asked him how he could do that, and he said it wasn't anymore genetic than the ability to raise an eyebrow (I can only raise one, for some reason). He claimed that once you understood how the underlying muscles were laid out, and worked, you could do just about anything with them. He could flip his eyelids over, make a 'w' with his tongue, roll it sideways left, right, and roll it inverted (so the gap is on the bottom), wiggle his nose, ears, and wave his eyebrows around like some kind of circus monkey. He worked at NIMH, where he did a lot of research on human muscular coordination.

It is my humble opinion that 'genetics' is used as a scapegoat by many medical researchers, as well as those who write books.

-Chilton

Doctor Q
Sep 25, 2003, 12:14 AM
Using a Macintosh is genetic. Here's my scientific proof: Everyone in my family uses one. Macs have a small market share so it is extremely unlikely to be a coincidence. Many neighbors are PC users so our Mac usage is not caused by our environment. Therefore, it's genetic!

scem0
Sep 25, 2003, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by Chilton
My Grandmother, an English teacher, used to tell us very sadly that because she and my Grandfather did not inherit this gene, that their kids could not do this. Then my Uncle, her son, one day showed me that he could. I asked him how he could do that, and he said it wasn't anymore genetic than the ability to raise an eyebrow (I can only raise one, for some reason). He claimed that once you understood how the underlying muscles were laid out, and worked, you could do just about anything with them. He could flip his eyelids over, make a 'w' with his tongue, roll it sideways left, right, and roll it inverted (so the gap is on the bottom), wiggle his nose, ears, and wave his eyebrows around like some kind of circus monkey. He worked at NIMH, where he did a lot of research on human muscular coordination.

It is my humble opinion that 'genetics' is used as a scapegoat by many medical researchers, as well as those who write books.

-Chilton

Couldn't it just have been a recessive gene that didn't show up on either of his parents?

scem0

Phil Of Mac
Sep 25, 2003, 01:06 AM
If it's recessive, then why is it that most people can roll their tongues?

baby duck monge
Sep 25, 2003, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
Using a Macintosh is genetic. Here's my scientific proof: Everyone in my family uses one. Macs have a small market share so it is extremely unlikely to be a coincidence. Many neighbors are PC users so our Mac usage is not caused by our environment. Therefore, it's genetic!

hahaha! that's great! sadly, though, things with that shoddy of evidence are sometimes passed off (or at least someone tries to pass them off) as truth.

about the cherry stem thing, though. i can do that. it's kinda fun. not strictly a tongue thing, though. also involves a little bit of teeth. may want to be careful is asking a girlie for a special demonstration of that sort of thing...

SiliconAddict
Sep 25, 2003, 01:30 AM
Naaa the real question is can you tie a knot in a cherry stem while sing living la vita loca. :D

Snowy_River
Sep 25, 2003, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by scem0
Couldn't it just have been a recessive gene that didn't show up on either of his parents?

scem0

But, aside from the number of people that can do this, all researchers have asserted that it is a dominant trait. So, one of his parents had to be able to do it, if it was genetic.

Oh, here's another one. Did you know that fertility is genetic? If your grandfather didn't have any kids, then your father probably didn't either, and neither will you, probably. (This is a quote from a college biology paper.)

:p

bennetsaysargh
Sep 26, 2003, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by Snowy_River


Oh, here's another one. Did you know that fertility is genetic? If your grandfather didn't have any kids, then your father probably didn't either, and neither will you, probably. (This is a quote from a college biology paper.)

:p

lol:p it may be true! but if your grandfather didnt have any kids, and your father didnt have any kids...
haha!
who's college paper was that?

ibjoshua
Sep 26, 2003, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
If it's recessive, then why is it that most people can roll their tongues?

if dwarvism is dominant why aren't there more dwarves?

i_b_joshua

NicoMan
Sep 26, 2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by Lyle
Don't fret. With some practice on her part (and patience on yours), your wife may some day be able to roll your tongue.
Btw, what's the best way to tone-up your tongue??
:rolleyes:

NicoMan
Sep 26, 2003, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by Chilton
My Grandmother, an English teacher, used to tell us very sadly that because she and my Grandfather did not inherit this gene, that their kids could not do this. Then my Uncle, her son, one day showed me that he could. I asked him how he could do that, and he said it wasn't anymore genetic than the ability to raise an eyebrow (I can only raise one, for some reason). He claimed that once you understood how the underlying muscles were laid out, and worked, you could do just about anything with them. He could flip his eyelids over, make a 'w' with his tongue, roll it sideways left, right, and roll it inverted (so the gap is on the bottom), wiggle his nose, ears, and wave his eyebrows around like some kind of circus monkey. He worked at NIMH, where he did a lot of research on human muscular coordination.

It is my humble opinion that 'genetics' is used as a scapegoat by many medical researchers, as well as those who write books.

-Chilton
Is your uncle 'The Mask'??

Phil Of Mac
Sep 26, 2003, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by i_b_joshua
if dwarvism is dominant why aren't there more dwarves?

i_b_joshua

Natural selection favors standard height.

Natural selection might also favor tongue-rolling, but not to as great an extent.

bryanc
Sep 26, 2003, 03:19 PM
Despite it's completely non-mac related substance, I'm kind of enjoying this thread, as both a geneticist and a trumpet player.

I can roll my tongue, as well as do double and triple tonguing (now *that's* a good pick-up line).

I know that the ability to roll one's tongue is used as an example of an autosomal dominant trait in genetics textbooks, but I couldn't find it in OMIM, and I don't know what, if any, evidence there is for this claim. It's unusual, but not unheardof, for textbooks to contain factual errors. So I expect it's probably true, but I'll keep my eyes open for evidence to support/refute that hypothesis.

Cheers