PowerMac G5s Trickling In [Archive]

macnews

Sep 25, 2003, 05:04 AM

Just got my new, 2 GHz, G5 w/the radeon 9800. Ram is arriving tomorrow to go up to 2.5Gig. New 23" display should be arriving next week (have 17" now).

Installed Indesing, Photoshop, Acrobat pro and Illustrator. Did some testing on Photoshop start up time (only 512MB ram in the G5 right now). Compared it to a 733Mhz G4, 768MB ram. Oh, and did not install the Photoshop G5 advanced plugin. Both machines had Photoshop installed exactly the same as well.

G4 - 12 sec.
G5 - 8 sec

I know this doesn't say much, but I just had to get a feel for it. Can't wait to play more. I will try to post some comparable numbers opening actual files later.

However, aftering seeing Genie's pics, my G5 just doesn't seem quite as sexy now. ;)

macnews

Sep 25, 2003, 05:14 AM

Originally posted by Tiauguinho
Excelent Pics! Congratulations on the purchase! Did you really maxed it out to 8GB RAM? How does the beast react with 8GB? Im so jealous! :)

I don't think she did max it out to 8GB ram. The ram from her pictures is from Crucial.com. They do not have 1GB ram for the G5 - yet. I just ordered my ram today and it was not available. I could be wrong - Genie?

I searched all over the net for 1GB ram modules. Difficult to find and very $$$. 2.5GB is good enough for me, right now.

esheep2001

Sep 25, 2003, 05:14 AM

Well "shipping" is a bit of a joke here in Europe.

I'm based in the UK near London and my Dual G5 "shipped" on Monday (22nd). Unfortunately, I decided to get Apple Care at the same time and that means that the machine that was built in Cork, Ireland has to go all the way to Luxembourg to be "merged" with the Apple Care. It is then sent back to me.

At the moment, Apple tell me that it's in Luxembourg being "merged" and that I should get it next Monday! 7 days, just because I wanted something that is intangible! I wouldn't mind if it was picking up an essential component but APP is just a piece of paper surely!

Ugh! I will never buy a machine and other components from the Apple store again. After 3 months (yes mine was 6/23 order) of waiting, I'm having to go through this now! Never again, I have sworn no more pre-orders and certainly no machine + other bits from the Apple store. Machine on it's own from now on and only if I want a CTO.

e.

trilogic

Sep 25, 2003, 05:29 AM

I checked my order on thuesday and it said shipped.

I'm afraid I won't get my dual before this weekend, but it should arrive next week.

freddiecable

Sep 25, 2003, 05:41 AM

sounds like poor logistics ;)

Originally posted by esheep2001
Well "shipping" is a bit of a joke here in Europe.

I'm based in the UK near London and my Dual G5 "shipped" on Monday (22nd). Unfortunately, I decided to get Apple Care at the same time and that means that the machine that was built in Cork, Ireland has to go all the way to Luxembourg to be "merged" with the Apple Care. It is then sent back to me.

At the moment, Apple tell me that it's in Luxembourg being "merged" and that I should get it next Monday! 7 days, just because I wanted something that is intangible! I wouldn't mind if it was picking up an essential component but APP is just a piece of paper surely!

Ugh! I will never buy a machine and other components from the Apple store again. After 3 months (yes mine was 6/23 order) of waiting, I'm having to go through this now! Never again, I have sworn no more pre-orders and certainly no machine + other bits from the Apple store. Machine on it's own from now on and only if I want a CTO.

e.

esheep2001

Sep 25, 2003, 05:44 AM

Originally posted by freddiecable
sounds like poor logistics ;)

Sounds like a comedic farce more like :)

What concerns me most, though, is the amount of unecessary vibration the unit is receiving during all this. It cannot do it any good, no matter how good the packaging is.

The whole thing is just stupid!

e.

mvc

Sep 25, 2003, 06:07 AM

Originally posted by esheep2001
The whole thing is just stupid!

Ahh, just like a jilted lover you will forgive Apple once the big G5 box'a'chocolates arrives on your doorstep - you will be blinded by love/lust!

esheep2001

Sep 25, 2003, 06:10 AM

Originally posted by mvc
Ahh, just like a jilted lover you will forgive Apple once the big G5 box'a'chocolates arrives on your doorstep - you will be blinded by love/lust!

:)

I still feel like that over my 18 month old iMac 800Mhz FP! Unfortunately, my hate for the Apple store UK will endure until they do some serious sorting out of their unbelievably pathetic so called logistics!

DO NOT BUY FROM APPLESTORE!

e.

JOHNGAETANO

Sep 25, 2003, 06:34 AM

Got mine last Thursday. I have had little time with it, but enough to play Medal of Honor a few times ;) . WOW, WOW, WOW is it fast.

Like Genie said, opening the box was fun. Reminded me of the day I got my Newton 2000.

I wish I could switch all our office computers over to duals.

See ya

JOHN

arn

Sep 25, 2003, 06:40 AM

Originally posted by JOHNGAETANO

Like Genie said, opening the box was fun. Reminded me of the day I got my Newton 2000.

Wow.... now THAT was a best thing to open/play with for the first time (Newton 2000). I wish I had taken pics of me opening my Newton at the time. :)

arn

Sebastian

Sep 25, 2003, 07:59 AM

i ordered mine mid august, and it shipped last night. 'course, i'm leaving for a few days on business and won't be here when it arrives.. gah!!!

gothamac

Sep 25, 2003, 09:10 AM

Genie's a cutipie.

jayscheuerle

Sep 25, 2003, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by Genie
They seem to be coming in regularly now.
http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://geniesongs.com/personal.html)

Seems tight getting the hands in there for adding RAM. I'd imagine the same thing for PCI cards.

Of course, I'm used to a beige G3 minitower and those were the best for accessing the boards easily...

jayscheuerle

Sep 25, 2003, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by freddiecable
genie: what are you doing with your hair? ;) it looks like it's really windy inside :D

9 fans...

iLife

Sep 25, 2003, 09:35 AM

i was the 23rd person to order one in Miami at the Falls Apple Store ( i know because my G5 card had a 23 on it)... i got mine two days ago.

I'm a convert from PC to an apple, and it couldn't be going smoother. All my apps open three times as fast and i'm loving the integration between all the iApps. My iSight rocks and everything is really cool with the computer.

Can't wait to really start workign off this machine!!!

it was the biggest suprise to get it thsi early; my estimated shipping was Oct 7, and i got it Sep 22.

sososowhat

Sep 25, 2003, 10:02 AM

Stanford got 40 2.0's in on Tuesday. They weren't pre-ordered, but you need a Stanford ID to buy one.

The Apple Store in Palo Alto called me late Tuesday to say mine was in. I'd gotten on their list in July.

By the way: I bought a 1.8 at the Apple Store in Palo Alto a few weeks ago. It comes with a 30-day 100% money-back privilege, so since I really needed one then & my 2.0 wasn't in yet the salesperson kindly suggested I do that & return it when the 2.0 came in.

Observations:
a) the 2.0 definitely feels faster. I wasn't sure it would on everyday apps, but it does. Loading my 8000 photos to iPhoto is several seconds faster; scrolling around them is noticably better. I used 2.5G ram in both machines.

b) the 2.0 seems quieter. hmm.

c) the 2.0's a whole lot more likely to kick up the fans when things are going on. The 1.8 seemed just to hum along at some mid-level of noise.

d) when working in the evening & my girlfriend's sleeping, using the Energy Saver option to lower the performance definitely lowers the noise level to a beautiful soft hum.

e) if I'm editing in word or on the web, I've been leaving the Reduced Performance option on. It doesn't seem to impact anything and keeps the machine whisper quiet.

edit: more thoughts

Bolt

Sep 25, 2003, 10:17 AM

Well, I now have hope that the Apple Store in Woodfield will be calling me hopefully this or next week. For some reason, they said their list wasn't that big for in store purchases..

jtizzle

Sep 25, 2003, 10:37 AM

I was supposed to get mine in this week from PC Connection. It was a build to order dualie with 512mb ram, 9800 ATI, and dual 250gb drives. Apple then without any information pushed back my order without any date given. I think the BTO's were pushed back even longer. I ordered mine july 11th. Also my PC's harddrive just died last night. APPLE COME TO THE RESCUE! I WANT TO BE A SWITCHER TO MAC AND CAN"T DO IT WITHOUT MY DUALIE....

tychay

Sep 25, 2003, 10:45 AM

Does anyone else like the startup noise the G5 makes? I was talking to my girlfriend over the phone last week and heard this sound like a sports car (vrrrm vrrrm). It turned out she was starting up her 2x2 G5.

Strange, she got a big kick out of opening her box also.

3-22

Sep 25, 2003, 10:58 AM

My first Mac... I'm still waiting, ordered 6/25 but doesn't seem to matter. What I heard from Apple is they are trying to push them out this week as fast as possible because of year end. I'm probably not getting much attention, since I ordered mine through ADC student program. Saved me $600, but I'm sure they are going to ship the $3k orders before mine.

Marble

Sep 25, 2003, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by tychay
Does anyone else like the startup noise the G5 makes? I was talking to my girlfriend over the phone last week and heard this sound like a sports car (vrrrm vrrrm). It turned out she was starting up her 2x2 G5.

Strange, she got a big kick out of opening her box also.

The G5's startup noise is an engine revving up??

jtizzle

Sep 25, 2003, 11:13 AM

YEa this is going to be my first mac. If I ever get it. I had my apple rep at PC connection try to match my student discount rate, so i Got my apple dualie cheaper than student rates. But I would pay more just to be playing with it now!

contempt

Sep 25, 2003, 11:19 AM

I remember when I ordered by BTO TiBook the first day Steve announced it. My BTO took almost a month longer than the stock TiBooks to ship. Apple really needs to speed this process up like Dell does. Dell BTO's ship in about two days. What's up with that?

Plus I think it's a problem throughout the Apple business. Everytime I walk into the SoHo Apple Store, there are about 30 Apple employees helping people out. However, there's only 3 employees at the registers and about 30 people waiting in line! This is a perfect example of how Apple operates. High in the selling, low on the execution.

Bytesmiths

Sep 25, 2003, 11:20 AM

From the FedEx tracking site:

"Sep 25, 2003__ 2:47 am On FedEx vehicle for delivery_PORTLAND, OR"

I'm going to be insufferable until that truck gets here... :-)

What was REALLY frustrating was that I ordered the G5 2x2 on October 1, along with a Cinema HD. The display got here two days later, and has been sitting here on my desk, BLANK, because my G4/400 won't drive it, even with the Apple DVI-ADC adaptor. (It took hours of searching the Apple website to find out why it wasn't working -- ATI Rage 128 Pro doesn't have enough VRAM to drive it...)

jer2665

Sep 25, 2003, 11:28 AM

I just recently ordered my g5, and have another month to go till the estimated ship date :-\ god im going nuts. Luckily I got the next day, because if i knew that thing was done, and just out there traveling around the country on a truck for 5 days, i'd have an aneurism.

jer2665

Sep 25, 2003, 11:30 AM

also...

does it suck apple isn't filling pre-orders and instead is filling stores and schools? yes it does. but it is smart.

You're going to wait for the one you ordered, you will, you have no choice, you aren't going to cancel it, no matter how many times you say you are.

So they have you getting one, and now people in the stores getting one. easy way to fill more people in about the same time. Good business? yeah. bad for the consumer, terrible.

Mneme

Sep 25, 2003, 11:33 AM

I got my home machine last week, a dual 2 GHz (ordered the day of the keynote)

It's very nice, and spends much of its time running at the quietest setting. It is kinda interesting to know when you're taxing it as the fans start spinning faster. For example, I was thinking about something and happened to have a text selection and was idly expanding and contracting it with the mouse. Slowly the fans spun up to a slightly higher speed. I stopped and said something like "oops, sorry...".

The machine is very fast. Some things you might expect to be CPU intensive, like UT2003, don't seem to tax it at all -- the fans mostly run at the lowest setting, or the next one above. I guess the graphics card is doing most of the work.

BUT, if you want hear how loud it *can* be, try running the Apple hardware diagnostics. It turns on all fans at full speed, and the machine sounds like a vacuum cleaner.

On the ordering/delevery front, I also ordered another one for work (ordered a few days after the keynote), and that one hasn't shown up yet, and just got pushed back to "On or before 10/29".

[I had thought it was 09/29 when I posted, but now I see it's 10/29.]

jer2665

Sep 25, 2003, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by Genie
They seem to be coming in regularly now.
http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://geniesongs.com/personal.html)

Is this like geek porn? I mean, yeah there's weird porn for everyone, but i mean..."ooohh, shes putting in the ram, oh baby 4ghz"

Genie

Sep 25, 2003, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by contempt
I haven't seen Amish porn this good in weeks!!!

:p

You're funny!

Doraemon

Sep 25, 2003, 11:41 AM

I just called my reseller and was told that mine will most likely be shipping next week.

Good news! :)

sabbath999

Sep 25, 2003, 11:44 AM

No, not about your computer... you got 150 pix of you and the new machine, and your fellow got to hold the camera? That's not right!

How about a few (not 150 please) of him with your new monster?

Genie

Sep 25, 2003, 11:45 AM

Oh- I actually put 512's in cause I couldn't find gigabyte sticks for the G5- anybody know where to find them?;)

Kheraha

Sep 25, 2003, 11:59 AM

Mine shipped on the 23rd according to UK Applestore, however, like others on this forum, because I ordered a few other things at the same time (Display, iSight, etc) - the machine itself is stuck in some depot waiting to be joined by the other items! These, according to my tracking page, have been in Holland for two days just sitting there - whilst the G5 sits in a UK depot near Heathrow. The carriers just tell me that its Apple I should contact, whilst Apple UK simply dont answer emails (phoning is difficult from work).

Never again will I purchase direct from Applestore UK - the simple art of logistics has passed them by - next day delivery hasnt quite reached these backward parts and the great art of customer care is sadly lacking too.:mad:

whooleytoo

Sep 25, 2003, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by esheep2001
Well "shipping" is a bit of a joke here in Europe.

I'm based in the UK near London and my Dual G5 "shipped" on Monday (22nd). Unfortunately, I decided to get Apple Care at the same time and that means that the machine that was built in Cork, Ireland has to go all the way to Luxembourg to be "merged" with the Apple Care. It is then sent back to me.

I live in Cork (can see the factory from my living room window), but I remember buying a Mac and it shipping to Paris, then back to Cork to me. Bizarre...

Mike.

NicoMan

Sep 25, 2003, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by Genie
Oh- I actually put 512's in cause I couldn't find gigabyte sticks for the G5- anybody know where to find them?;)
At the moment you can't really find them anywhere but on the Apple Store. But then that delays your orders.... especially on the new PBs. Everyone is also complaining about those 1GB sticks price on the Apple store, but then again it's the only way to get them. And in that respect, the prices are not that ridiculous...

ryan

Sep 25, 2003, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by freddiecable

genie: what are you doing with your hair? ;) it looks like it's really windy inside :D
I felt like I was watching a shampoo commercial.

Genie

Sep 25, 2003, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by NicoMan
At the moment you can't really find them anywhere but on the Apple Store. ...

I thought last week I saw them somwhere for $300 but I can't remember where.

I'll try it with 4GB for a while.
Maybe by the time I need 8GB I'll be ready for the all new Dual4GHZ model:)
http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://geniesongs.com/personal.html)

whooleytoo

Sep 25, 2003, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by jayscheuerle
9 fans...

I think Genie has a lot more fans than that now!!

By the way, what is this fashion for photos of women with G5s? That's the third such gallery I've seen. Is it a secretive marketing campaign by Apple for men? ("Who needs a flash car, chicks love G5s!") or for women? ("Who needs a man, I've got a G5!")

:D

Mike.

Genie

Sep 25, 2003, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by whooleytoo
I think Genie has a lot more fans than that now!!

By the way, what is this fashion for photos of women with G5s? That's the third such gallery I've seen. Is it a secretive marketing campaign by Apple for men? ("Who needs a flash car, chicks love G5s!") or for women? ("Who needs a man, I've got a G5!")

It's a secret apple conspiracy to gain microsoft-like domination of the planet and install G5 chips in all foreheads or right hands...

Repeat after me...You will buy a G5...;)

NicoMan

Sep 25, 2003, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by ryan
I felt like I was watching a shampoo commercial.
It's because you're worth it!

rlmorel

Sep 25, 2003, 12:43 PM

Genie,
You are indeed as attractive as the G5! (from a computer geek, that says a lot!) Thanks for sharing...I can't wait until MINE arrives!

Baja2k

Sep 25, 2003, 12:44 PM

It's here....It's finally here...

Wife just called and said my baby was here.. I said but your only 6 months pregnant.....Oh wait you mean my Mac....... Sweet.....I'm going home to pick it up and bring it up to the office so I can get some "work" done. ;)

Gotta go.....

EDIT: Ignore sig....Cause it's no longer on it's way.

iLife

Sep 25, 2003, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by Marble
The G5's startup noise is an engine revving up??

no, the startup noise is the same, but I've noticed as it starts up the main fans rev really fast for like a second (maybe to clear out any dust?) and then winds down (which kinda sounds like an engine rev)... i'm guessing that's what he heard on the phone.

Loopy

Sep 25, 2003, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by Genie
It's a secret apple conspiracy to gain microsoft-like domination of the planet and install G5 chips in all foreheads or right hands...

Repeat after me...You will buy a G5...;)

Foreheads for Girl's ? Right Hand for Men ?

What about us Left handers do we get the girl and the G5.

whooleytoo

Sep 25, 2003, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by Genie
Repeat after me...You will buy a G5...;)

"You will buy a G5"... Nope, does nothing for me! ;)

To hell with the chant, your pictures were a lot more convincing!! By the way, do the European designers call those "aluminium" dresses? ;D

Mike.

Foxer

Sep 25, 2003, 02:04 PM

Have they been spotted in any stores (other than LA and Plano)? I'd drive to friggin' Minneapolis if I had to.

jamesatzones

Sep 25, 2003, 02:14 PM

I just got confirmation that we are receiving several hundred dual G5 on Monday, more than enough to cover the back orders. Contact me via e-mail if you want to order one, end of quarter and deals are flying...

jer2665

Sep 25, 2003, 02:19 PM

jamesatzones

Sep 25, 2003, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by NicoMan
At the moment you can't really find them anywhere but on the Apple Store. But then that delays your orders.... especially on the new PBs. Everyone is also complaining about those 1GB sticks price on the Apple store, but then again it's the only way to get them. And in that respect, the prices are not that ridiculous...

I have the 1GB and 2GB kits available from Edge and Kingston soon...

jer2665

Sep 25, 2003, 02:24 PM

how is crucial memory? i mean i've heard the name for quite a while, but never got anything from them, but they are dirt cheap. good enough? or crap?

chmilar

Sep 25, 2003, 02:57 PM

I have two sticks of 1GB density RAM sitting on my desk right now. I received them one month ago, in anticipation of an 8/29 ship date on my Dual G5.

I got them from DataMem.com (http://www.datamem.com/viewitems.asp?C=1125&D=Apple%5FMac%5FMemory&K=) (2GB kit, DM50 613x2). They have the best price I have seen.

My machine, ordered immediately when Apple's website went live after the keynote (with 9800 card and 1x250GB drive), is still estimated to ship 9/29. I hope it doesn't get bumped again.

Genie

Sep 25, 2003, 03:02 PM

The Datamem price is about what I've seen- the 1 gig stick= almost double the price of 2 512's...

:(

http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://geniesongs.com/personal.html)

Genie

Sep 25, 2003, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by jer2665
how is crucial memory? i mean i've heard the name for quite a while, but never got anything from them, but they are dirt cheap. good enough? or crap?

Crucial has been a great value for me over the years... Someone more technical might know more but I've heard pretty good reports...

Baja2k

Sep 25, 2003, 03:25 PM

Hello All,

I haven't seen anyone mention this yet so:

There are definetly Mac OS update coupons in the G5 boxes. However, it does not say if they are good for updates/upgrades to Panther. Since this is my first Mac I'm not sure what it means. I'll try to attach a picture of the coupon shortly. Actually there are 3 coupons label 1,2, and 3.

Regards,

Genie

Sep 25, 2003, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by Baja2k
Hello All,

There are definetly Mac OS update coupons in the G5 boxes. However, it does not say if they are good for updates/upgrades to Panther. Since this is my first Mac I'm not sure what it means. I'll try to attach a picture of the coupon shortly. Actually there are 3 coupons label 1,2, and 3.

Regards,

This is the sound of me running to check my box...http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://geniesongs.com/personal.html)

iLife

Sep 25, 2003, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by jer2665
Does her other boyfriend have a loud car? could have been him leaving :eek:

that's funny! no, it really does make that noise, kinda suprised me at first, you'll be happy with the computer, you get the computer by my birthday! :D

Baja2k

Sep 25, 2003, 03:38 PM

Sorry Genie I should have been more specific:

It's a single sheet of coupons in with the setup guide package.

Setup Guide
Apple Stickers
Apple Care Advertisement
license agreement
1 year warranty info
AND IMPORTANT APPLE Software PROOF-Of-PURCHASE Coupons

So make sure to look in your paperwork package.

Regards,

Genie

Sep 25, 2003, 03:42 PM

http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://geniesongs.com/personal.html)

Originally posted by Baja2k

It's a single sheet of coupons in with the setup guide package.
AND IMPORTANT APPLE Software PROOF-Of-PURCHASE Coupons

Regards,

Just had a look and boy is that the most vague coupon I've ever seen. Intentionally vague, I think...
Nobody seems to know when Panther will come out, even at Apple.

Me thinks they're going to make us pay full price for Panther.

Baja2k

Sep 25, 2003, 03:43 PM

Coupon Attached:

Foxer

Sep 25, 2003, 04:00 PM

Thoese coupons are nothing new. I've got them with every MAc I've bought over the past few years.

grahamfw

Sep 25, 2003, 04:01 PM

I friggin order August 1 and the ship date has remained the same the entire time - Oct. 14. I upgraded to 10.2.8 on my ibook and it started crashing and now doesn't start and still people are getting their G5's before me. It's really quite bothersome. I'm about ready to cancel my developer order and go to the Apple Store at Lenox and get whatever the hell they have. It's really annoying.....

Oh, and at least in my luck, I ordered as a student developer and after a call I was told that there was no way to expedite my order regardless of the whole student thing and the STUDENT developer discount..... what a drag. Anyone else need to gripe?

Baja2k

Sep 25, 2003, 04:04 PM

Since I don't have my .mac website setup here's my single picture offering of my new Mac. I think Genie was a much better subject beside her new Mac than most of us anyway! I was trying to figure out if I was envious of Genie cause she had her Mac or of her Mac because it had her...Ohh nevermind ;) lol

Anyway I thought this was an interesting picture of my new Mac beside my Sun Ultra 60 and my Dell D600. Notice it makes the Ultra 60 look kinda small. Of course that is mainly because the handles are very large on the G5.

Regards,

Genie

Sep 25, 2003, 04:04 PM

You should be able to find someone to get you one before Oct 14- that's a little long-

That would almost make you want to wait for Rev b in February...

http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://geniesongs.com/personal.html)

3.1416

Sep 25, 2003, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by Genie
Me thinks they're going to make us pay full price for Panther.

Almost certainly. Maybe when a release date for Panther is officially announced, systems bought afterwards will get a free upgrade, but that's the most I'd expect. This is just Apple soaking the early adopters, not that there's anything wrong with that.

chmilar

Sep 25, 2003, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by Genie
the 1 gig stick= almost double the price of 2 512's...http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://geniesongs.com/personal.html)

Yeah, it looks like the 1G sticks are rare enough to be expensive. The prices will drop over the next few months.

Datamem's price is half of what I've seen from anyone else who even has the part. (Crucial and Kingston don't!)

Of course, I haven't been able to test whether my 2Gigs actually works! Hopefully, my machine will ship tomorrow or Monday, so I can find out.

grahamfw

Sep 25, 2003, 04:37 PM

Whoa. Turns out apple upgraded my shipping option to Priority overnite.

*does a dance*

jer2665

Sep 25, 2003, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by iLife
it was the biggest suprise to get it thsi early; my estimated shipping was Oct 7, and i got it Sep 22.

This post gives me hope. Granted it's just pure delusional help, but help none the less...

and ya know, it is the damnedest thing, i keep checking my status on the apple store, just about every half hour, and it just doesn't seem to change, it keeps on 'on or before oct 24th', i figured if i checked it enough, maybe it'd magically jump up...sigh...

pjhornak

Sep 25, 2003, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by iLife
i was the 23rd person to order one in Miami at the Falls Apple Store ( i know because my G5 card had a 23 on it)... i got mine two days ago.

I'm a convert from PC to an apple, and it couldn't be going smoother. All my apps open three times as fast and i'm loving the integration between all the iApps. My iSight rocks and everything is really cool with the computer.

Can't wait to really start workign off this machine!!!

it was the biggest suprise to get it thsi early; my estimated shipping was Oct 7, and i got it Sep 22.

cool yeah the same for me... I was the first order from the menlo park nj apple store and got mine last week... I was told in the store that my order would have priority because it was placed there... .My order went in 24 June 0824L pdt.....I'm a switcher too... very very happy with everything.... it is very impressive in person... 23HD is awesome~!

pjhornak

Sep 25, 2003, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by 3.1416
Almost certainly. Maybe when a release date for Panther is officially announced, systems bought afterwards will get a free upgrade, but that's the most I'd expect. This is just Apple soaking the early adopters, not that there's anything wrong with that.

can't remember where but I saw $29.00 for 10.2 users maybe free for 10.2.7??

garymm

Sep 25, 2003, 06:32 PM

well, they're shipping now, which is good. but I'm still very dissappointed with how slowly they shipped. This is WAY after August.
I was planning on buying a Dual 2 at the end of August, but now that I haven't been able to get one and I know i won't be able to get one for another while, I think I'll wait until MacWorldSF and see if they update the line.

pjhornak

Sep 25, 2003, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by Baja2k
Since I don't have my .mac website setup here's my single picture offering of my new Mac. I think Genie was a much better subject beside her new Mac than most of us anyway! I was trying to figure out if I was envious of Genie cause she had her Mac or of her Mac because it had her...Ohh nevermind ;) lol

Anyway I thought this was an interesting picture of my new Mac beside my Sun Ultra 60 and my Dell D600. Notice it makes the Ultra 60 look kinda small. Of course that is mainly because the handles are very large on the G5.

Regards,

dude ditch the dull

za9ra22

Sep 25, 2003, 06:33 PM

After reading of all the delays, when I ordered my G5 2.0Ghz on 9/18/03 I wasn't surprised to see 'shipping on or before 10/21/03' appear on the order status.

I WAS rather disappointed to see the date change to 10/27/03 at the beginning of this week.

I was totally startled to see 'Shipped 9/24/03' when I checked just now! It should be here tomorrow.

jer2665

Sep 25, 2003, 06:36 PM

yes yes yes, more people keep on receiving your computers early, gives me hope, helps me from going to jail for murdering someone here for theirs.

pjhornak

Sep 25, 2003, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by grahamfw
I friggin order August 1 and the ship date has remained the same the entire time - Oct. 14. I upgraded to 10.2.8 on my ibook and it started crashing and now doesn't start and still people are getting their G5's before me. It's really quite bothersome. I'm about ready to cancel my developer order and go to the Apple Store at Lenox and get whatever the hell they have. It's really annoying.....

Oh, and at least in my luck, I ordered as a student developer and after a call I was told that there was no way to expedite my order regardless of the whole student thing and the STUDENT developer discount..... what a drag. Anyone else need to gripe?

nah I got mine already.... you will love apple again when it comes....lennox is a nice mall though.... have lunch there.. .it won't seem so bad

Genie

Sep 25, 2003, 08:46 PM

Truly bizarre and unpredictable behavior from Apple's ordering system.

http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://geniesongs.com/personal.html)

mauiwowwie

Sep 25, 2003, 08:53 PM

i ordered august 17th. got shipping notification september 25th. i am so stoked!!! my g5s specs are 2ghz DP, radeon 9800, 2x250 gigs, bluetooth, and 2 gigs ram. i think i'll have to smoke one to this! hope all of you get your DP g5s soon... it ain't no g5, unless its a DP!!!

pjhornak

Sep 25, 2003, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by mauiwowwie
hope all of you get your DP g5s soon... it ain't no g5, unless its a DP!!!

rock on dude go big or go home

kaneda

Sep 25, 2003, 09:06 PM

Where are the nude pics?? Powermac and boobie$ great combination...sorry...dirty jokes...:D

kaneda

Sep 25, 2003, 09:09 PM

man, seems like Genie was taking her time opening the box...If it was me. I would rip off that box like there is no tomorrow!

Damn, my dual 1ghz G4 is so slow! :)
FASTER FASTER!!

Genie

Sep 25, 2003, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by kaneda
Where are the nude pics?? Powermac and boobie$ great combination...sorry...dirty jokes...:D

No offense taken...Boys will be boys...:rolleyes:

There are a few other sites with women and G5's, and much less clothing than my little gallery...

http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://geniesongs.com/personal.html)

jer2665

Sep 25, 2003, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by Genie
No offense taken...Boys will be boys...:rolleyes:

There are a few other sites with women and G5's, and much less clothing than my little gallery...

http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://geniesongs.com/personal.html)

...links? :-x

Foxer

Sep 25, 2003, 11:27 PM

Yahoo! Picked mine up at the Apple Store in Woodfield. Can't use it until tomorrow, after I buy a cinema display. Tough sleeping tonight!
By the by, it looked as though they still had a couple in stock.

devost

Sep 26, 2003, 12:00 AM

I ordered late, so was not surprised by the 10/16 estimated ship date. However, I received notification today that it has shipped and should be here tomorrow!

donoghmac

Sep 26, 2003, 06:35 AM

Hi
The apple store UK gives a build time of 10-15 days for a 1.25 15 Alumbook, does anyone know if this accurate?

I really want one in time for my birthday! :D

jer2665

Sep 26, 2003, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by donoghmac
Hi
The apple store UK gives a build time of 10-15 days for a 1.25 15 Alumbook, does anyone know if this accurate?

I really want one in time for my birthday! :D

eh, luckily i dont live in the uk, so i dont know. :D

but the rest of the posts on here haven't been too favorable towards the apple store uk, many saying that their stuff takes longer to ship, and if you track it, the things being sent all over the uk to finally recieve it or something like that. But like i said, i have no experience, so i'm not 100% positive

mac3dX

Sep 26, 2003, 12:11 PM

I ordered my dual CTO on June 26th and I am still waiting for it to ship over 3 months later. There'll be no joy left when I finally receive it. Why does Apple LIE to its customers so much? Last time I'll ever pre-order.

jer2665

Sep 26, 2003, 12:13 PM

that brings up a question, of those people who ordered, and are receiving their pre-orders early, are they standard or cto? maybe they're pushing out the standard pre-orders quickly, and making the rest of us with cto wait. anyone?

devost

Sep 26, 2003, 01:17 PM

Mine was custom and it was ordered in August, arrived today.

I added RAM, Bluetooth, Airport, but did not upgrade video card.

Maybe that is the critical component that is holding up orders.

jer2665

Sep 26, 2003, 01:20 PM

is the bluetooth module internal? i was going to call and have them add that to it, i mean est ship date of 10/24 its not even close to being made, but i dont want to risk holding it up any more than i have to. but all the ones at apple store seem to be ones that plug into the usb port.

pjhornak

Sep 26, 2003, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by jer2665
is the bluetooth module internal? i was going to call and have them add that to it, i mean est ship date of 10/24 its not even close to being made, but i dont want to risk holding it up any more than i have to. but all the ones at apple store seem to be ones that plug into the usb port.

If you order bluetooth on a cto (Like I did) the bluetooth module is internal on the motherboard...and cannot be added after production. It has to do with the aluminium case there is an antenna that ports to the back tower case to get the signal out of the box. You can use a usb dongle.. but I wanted to keep in clean and have it integrated... I would say for me it was worth the wait... .but then I again my 2.0 came last week.....:) they were three days early in relation to the second est. ship date I don't think bluetooth will hold up your order:)

Genie

Sep 26, 2003, 03:14 PM

http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/g5opening/index.htm)

Am having problems with Safari crashing on the G5.

Explorer seems fine. Most of the other programs also seem excellent. Digital Performer absolutely screams!

Lemme know if you know anything about the Safari crashing.

Genie

Sep 26, 2003, 03:58 PM

Thanks for asking -

Mostly when I type something into a search box - it's happened at tons of sites so it's probably something messed up with the autocomplete feature...

http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/g5opening/index.htm)

jer2665

Sep 26, 2003, 04:00 PM

eh, once i get mine, maybe i'll think about feeling bad for ya :p

Bolt

Sep 26, 2003, 04:03 PM

I happened to call my local apple store at Woodfield today to see if they had any Duals in ... it just so happened they had 2, so they held one for me while I drove like a maniac to get there. I'm now posting on my new Dual G5 and 17inch Apple Display .... its sweet :)

Genie

Sep 26, 2003, 04:23 PM

http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/g5opening/index.htm)

Let us know if you have any crashies...

The other program that crashes is iChat- crashes immediately on launch.

pjhornak

Sep 26, 2003, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by Genie
Thanks for asking -

Mostly when I type something into a search box - it's happened at tons of sites so it's probably something messed up with the autocomplete feature...

http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/g5opening/index.htm)

Hmmmm.. tricky... I just made google a bookmark and use the tab browsing.....haven't hand any problems....you are using the url bar to search....?

Genie

Sep 26, 2003, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by pjhornak
Hmmmm.. tricky... I just made google a bookmark and use the tab browsing.....haven't hand any problems....you are using the url bar to search....?

http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/g5opening/index.htm)
not crashing on googlies...

Using the built in search bar in various sites, like this one...

and iChat crashes on launch...

pjhornak

Sep 26, 2003, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by Genie
http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/g5opening/index.htm)
not crashing on googlies...

Using the built in search bar in various sites, like this one...

and iChat crashes on launch...

OH!!!! Huge light bulb over my head now...... a search within a webpage... I have a problem with ebay.....if you search for anything.....and the items show up... there should be a second search bar on the webpage so you can look for something else... that one never loads in for me... try it.. let me know how it goes...

macmax

Sep 26, 2003, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by rlmorel
Genie,
You are indeed as attractive as the G5! (from a computer geek, that says a lot!) Thanks for sharing...I can't wait until MINE arrives!
+1

And i will also take you out to dinner if you let me use your G5, hehehehe:D

macmax

Sep 26, 2003, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by Genie
http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/g5opening/index.htm)

Am having problems with Safari crashing on the G5.

Explorer seems fine. Most of the other programs also seem excellent. Digital Performer absolutely screams!

Lemme know if you know anything about the Safari crashing.

you won't believe this, when something crashes on my mac i just move the app or i change the apps icon in the dock and it works fine, try it and let's see what happens:cool:

richardH

Sep 26, 2003, 06:07 PM

i found them at macwarehouse kingston for 269.95 and poweruser for 199.95 in stock, and at page computers on the nextag search the kingston was much cheaper then macwarehouse...i think 249. and they are in stock. My apple store didn't have any in stock.

i ordered mine on aug 22, and it arrived today but i had to send it back because i bought one at the store last night. I can't imagine why people haven't gotten them for such old orders..oh well..

512 ram is 139.95 for kingston at macwarehouse
and 119.95 for power user..

Apple charges 1300 bucks for 2 gigs..and you don't even know where it comes from...I guess that's how they make the money cause they are giving the computers away...I remember paying 4000 bucks for an se-30 with a 7 inch b/w monitor with an 80 meg hd and 6 megs of ram...

this machine would be worth 100,000 buck 13 years ago

Genie

Sep 26, 2003, 06:13 PM

http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/g5opening/index.htm)

Oh my- where is this poweruser? Is it as good quality as crucial?

richardH

Sep 26, 2003, 06:31 PM

the quality is good. Kingston is better as you can tell by the price but i have had poweruser ram and never had a problem with it..check macwarehouse, cdw, and pagecomputers had kingston 1 gig in stock for under 250
the Kingston 1 gig is 269 at macwarhouse..i made a typo:eek:

just make sure its for the dual.

macmax

Sep 26, 2003, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by macmax
you won't believe this, when something crashes on my mac i just move the app or i change the apps icon in the dock and it works fine, try it and let's see what happens:cool:

engineering at it's best:D

richardH

Sep 26, 2003, 06:43 PM

i had the clicking hardrive problem. Is and when i removed my USB cable it stopped..did anyone else have that problem...sounded like a ticking of a clock...turned out it was my epson 825 printer after some experimenting. turned it on and it clicked, and then turned it off and the clicking was gone in a few seconds...hooked up my HP 5650 and no more clicking...

thought i had a bad HD for a minute there...:rolleyes:

tychay

Sep 26, 2003, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by iLife
no, the startup noise is the same, but I've noticed as it starts up the main fans rev really fast for like a second (maybe to clear out any dust?) and then winds down (which kinda sounds like an engine rev)... i'm guessing that's what he heard on the phone.

Yes, that's what I heard and why I called it a startup noise instead of startup sound.

BTW. Re 1GB RAM. Are you sure that the prices you quoted for a single 1GB RAM module and not 1GB kit (2x512MB)? The prices seem more for kit RAM than single sticks. Much RAM is sold in "kit" form so that overclockers in the PC world have an easier time adjusting the timings for dual channel RAM.

If that is the case, may I suggest Corsair RAM (http://www.corsairmicro.com/)? (Not the new Pro stuff though unless you like blinking lights.)

Here is some more G5 "porn":

http://homepage.mac.com/silverkeys/swiffy/pics/IMGP1612.jpg

Take care,

terry

Genie

Sep 26, 2003, 11:59 PM

http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/g5opening/index.htm)
What a cute kitty!

You should send that over to MacAddict forums.
They were looking for pictures of [another word for kitty].

kaneda

Sep 27, 2003, 02:49 AM

G5 and cat boobie$!! that will turn a dog on!

Damn, you people with a G5...STOP posting pics of your powerful MAC!! stop making G4 and G3 owners suffer!!

Go show off to PC users...not your MAC comrades..

What have you done for the party today?

tychay

Sep 27, 2003, 05:31 AM

Originally posted by kaneda
Damn, you people with a G5...STOP posting pics of your powerful MAC!! stop making G4 and G3 owners suffer!!

That G5 is not mine, but the cat is. He's since dumped me and my G4 notebook for a cute girl and her 2x2G5.

In his kitten years:
http://cats.terrychay.com/pics/pounce/200211/PB100327.jpg

jywv8

Sep 27, 2003, 07:16 PM

After seeing that someone else on this board picked up a Dual G5 from the Apple Store at Woodfield Mall, I decided to do the same, since the stock model I ordered on 8/1 was still showing a ship date of 'on or before 10/24'.

My first impressions are that it is very fast (although I was previously using a 466MHz G4), that it is very quiet (although the HDs in my old machine were rather noisy), and that is very heavy (at least while carrying one up two flights of stairs). Even when the fans blow, it's still quieter (or at least more pleasing) than the whines coming from my old G4.

To anyone in the Chicagoland area who is waiting for a non-custom dual that they ordered on-line many moons ago, I would recommend calling the Woodfield or Michigan Ave. stores to reserve one (assuming they still have some left) and cancelling your on-line order. However, they will only hold one for the duration of the day, so you've got to be able to get to the store that day.

froehle

Sep 28, 2003, 01:09 AM

Originally posted by za9ra22
After reading of all the delays, when I ordered my G5 2.0Ghz on 9/18/03 I wasn't surprised to see 'shipping on or before 10/21/03' appear on the order status.

I WAS rather disappointed to see the date change to 10/27/03 at the beginning of this week.

I was totally startled to see 'Shipped 9/24/03' when I checked just now! It should be here tomorrow.

Too bad that I ordered mine (std dual config) on 9/15/03 (I got the same 10/21/03 ship date) and it still hasn't shipped. The Apple Store at the Mall of America had several in stock, but I can't get the Apple Developer Connection discount there. Rawr. It hopefully should show up soon, especially because the Apple Store now lists it as a 7-10 day wait on new orders. Oh, and the Shipping Method on my order has changed from 'Priority Overnight' to 'Two Day' to 'Bestway' whatever that means.

Still waiting...

Genie

Sep 28, 2003, 01:16 AM

How much is the developer discount?

BrandonRP0123

Sep 28, 2003, 01:29 AM

Apple store, Valley Fair (Santa Clara, CA):

8 (eight) dual 2's in boxes stacked behind the register up front. Pictures tomorrow when I take my digital over there.

tedjac

Sep 28, 2003, 01:39 AM

The Apple Store in Pasadena has some in stock... they told me they just got a "truckload" in (Sat night!) and are selling them first come, first serve. So, if you're tired of waiting for your on-line order and can live with the stock configuration... check 'em out.

pjhornak

Sep 28, 2003, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by BrandonRP0123
Apple store, Valley Fair (Santa Clara, CA):

8 (eight) dual 2's in boxes stacked behind the register up front. Pictures tomorrow when I take my digital over there.

can confirm same thing in NJ... menlo park had 8 but sold them pretty quickly

tychay

Sep 28, 2003, 08:56 PM

Originally posted by Genie
How much is the developer discount?

It varies but is between 10-20% off. It's no big secret as Apple publishes the prices (http://developer.apple.com/membership/hardware.html): As you can see, you can save $600 on the top-of-the-line G5.

However, in order to qualify, you must be either a Select (http://developer.apple.com/membership/select.html) ($500/year) or Premiere (http://developer.apple.com/membership/premier.html) ($3500/year) or student (http://developer.apple.com/students/) ($100/year) member and you may not be the highest on the priority list (the idea is that Premiere members would be purchasing old inventory for compatibility testing and the like). The last one is quite the deal and I wish I took advantage of that back in the day.

Take care,

terry

grahamfw

Sep 28, 2003, 11:06 PM

The last one is quite the deal and I wish I took advantage of that back in the day.

Aye. That is the only way for us poor students working during the summer and during the semester. The days are getting much longer as 10-14 approaches. Got a Dual 2.0 512, 9800 and Combo drive for $2668 or so after taxes. Not too shabby.

chmilar

Sep 29, 2003, 06:58 PM

On 6/23, as soon as Apple's website goes live, I place an order for a CTO dual 2GHz G5. As customization, I ask for the Radeon 9800 card, and a 250GB drive.

A few days later, the website estimates the shipping date as 8/29.

In anticipation of the 8/29 date, I order two 1GB sticks of RAM (for a total of 2GB). They arrive on 8/28. Everything is ready.

On the morning of 8/29, I awake to find the date bumped to 9/29. The evening before, 8/29 was still displayed.

Today is 9/29. This morning, the ship date is still 9/29. Before lunch: 9/29. I eagerly await my FedEx tracking number!

After lunch, the date has been bumped to 10/14!

I call Apple, and wait on hold for 15 minutes to find out what has happened to my computer. The sales rep, while feeling my pain, offers no help (not even offering to pick up the tab on the FedEx overnight shipping, which, back on 6/23, I thought was well worth the extra cost).

Will I get my machine on or before 10/14? No one knows.

I would be less upset if Apple updated the shipping estimates as soon as they know they will not hit the target. Apple's manufacturing must know days, or even weeks, in advance that they will miss the target. Yet, customers are treated to a wonderful "surprise" on the shipping date, learning that they have, once again, been screwed!

Doraemon

Sep 29, 2003, 07:07 PM

Mine shipped today.

Dual 2GHz
DVD/CD-RW Combo
Radeon 9600 Pro
512 MB RAM

It's fast, looks really cool (although it is huge!) and is really quite. Love it already! :)

Genie

Sep 29, 2003, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by chmilar
On 6/23, as soon as Apple's website goes live, I place an order for a CTO dual 2GHz G5. As customization, I ask for the Radeon 9800 card, and a 250GB drive.

A few days later, the website estimates the shipping date as 8/29.

In anticipation of the 8/29 date, I order two 1GB sticks of RAM (for a total of 2GB). They arrive on 8/28. Everything is ready.

On the morning of 8/29, I awake to find the date bumped to 9/29. The evening before, 8/29 was still displayed.

Today is 9/29. This morning, the ship date is still 9/29. Before lunch: 9/29. I eagerly await my FedEx tracking number!

After lunch, the date has been bumped to 10/14!

That's very strange. I thought they were all moving out fast now. 10/14 may be a mistake.

BTW- where did you get your 1GB sticks?

mac3dX

Sep 29, 2003, 07:44 PM

I also ordered a dual CTO on 6/26 and it hasn't shipped yet. Thanks, Apple, for screwing loyal customers. OVER 3 MONTHS!! WTF!!

chmilar

Sep 29, 2003, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by Genie
That's very strange. I thought they were all moving out fast now. 10/14 may be a mistake.

No, I called. The sales rep had access to the manufacturing database. He said that, while the order has been "released to manufacturing", he could not guarantee that it would be shipped by 10/14.

BTW- where did you get your 1GB sticks?

You asked before, and I answered: datamem.com. On the positive side, they shipped the RAM the morning after I ordered it!

chmilar

Sep 29, 2003, 08:08 PM

BTW: if you want to complain about Apple's poor handling of the G5 release:

direct_management@group.apple.com

mozzchops

Sep 29, 2003, 10:01 PM

Anyone interested in 1 ADC discount ?

I ordered my G5 throught the website so can't get the discount now, I'll happily split the discount 50/50 to anyone in UK.

sososowhat

Sep 30, 2003, 12:07 AM

MacMaker MacMaker make me a Mac
Find me a Finder
Catch me iChat

MacMaker MacMaker
Look through your book
And make me a perfectect Mac

MacMaker MacMaker I'll bring the dough
You bring the iTunes
iPhoto and mail

Bring the thing
For I'm longing to be
The envy of all I see

Pa, pa, make him a G5
Ma, ma, make him so fast
For me, now I wouldn't hollar
If he was a quiet as anything

MacMaker MacMaker
Make me a Mac
Find me a Finder
Catch me iChat

Night after night
In the Dark I'm alone
So find me a Mac
Of my own!

"Since when are you interested
In a Mac, Chava
I thought you just had your eye
On your iBook!"

And you have your eye on the rabbi's G5
Well why not?
We have only one rabbi
And he has only one G5!

Why shouldn't I want the best?
Because you're a girl from a poor family,
So whatever Steve brings you'll take
Right? Of course, right!

Genie

Sep 30, 2003, 12:45 AM

My - that was clever.

Are you waiting for your G5 still?

airmac

Sep 30, 2003, 08:20 AM

yo Genie, really nice slides there, should be relaxing for any mac lover...aaaam..so how fast is scrolling in word?...:D

Appleseed

Sep 30, 2003, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by sososowhat
MacMaker MacMaker make me a Mac
Find me a Finder
Catch me iChat

MacMaker MacMaker
Look through your book
And make me a perfectect Mac

MacMaker MacMaker I'll bring the dough
You bring the iTunes
iPhoto and mail

Bring the thing
For I'm longing to be
The envy of all I see

Pa, pa, make him a G5
Ma, ma, make him so fast
For me, now I wouldn't hollar
If he was a quiet as anything

MacMaker MacMaker
Make me a Mac
Find me a Finder
Catch me iChat

Night after night
In the Dark I'm alone
So find me a Mac
Of my own!

"Since when are you interested
In a Mac, Chava
I thought you just had your eye
On your iBook!"

And you have your eye on the rabbi's G5
Well why not?
We have only one rabbi
And he has only one G5!

Why shouldn't I want the best?
Because you're a girl from a poor family,
So whatever Steve brings you'll take
Right? Of course, right!

Get a life...

freddiecable

Sep 30, 2003, 09:59 AM

I got my dual G5 yesterday (monday) and it's wonderful! I love the design...it really grows on you! It's a bit noisy - but quiter than my previous Dual 1.42 G4 - though.

Genie

Sep 30, 2003, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by airmac
yo Genie, really nice slides there, should be relaxing for any mac lover...aaaam..so how fast is scrolling in word?...:D

Microsoft Word X scrolls fast as you please- no lag whatsoever.

This was not the case on my dual 1GHZ, which I think I will sell, BTW.

sososowhat

Sep 30, 2003, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by Genie
My - that was clever.

Are you waiting for your G5 still?

Hey, thanks. That's kinder than 'get a life' :)

Actually I got my G5 about 10 days ago. Just got inspired with the song later, so thought I'd share it. Would have been more timely a few weeks back, but my kids & I had fun singing the new wsords along with the original (my first 99 cent purchase at iTMS!).

ddbean

Oct 1, 2003, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by Genie

Are you waiting for your G5 still? [/B]

I'm still waiting for my Dual G5 with B/T and 9800 that I paid for back in July through my local distributor. I just fired off email to apple to complain about this crap. I can go to my local Apple store and walk out with a stock config now, but I can't go through the hassle of getting my refund etc... :mad:

speechpoet

Oct 1, 2003, 03:41 PM

My dual (factory specs, nothing custom) just arrived from MacWarehouse.ca. I'm configuring it now.

Happy, happy, happy.

Genie

Oct 1, 2003, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by ddbean
I'm still waiting for my Dual G5 with B/T and 9800 that I paid for back in July through my local distributor. I just fired off email to apple to complain about this crap. I can go to my local Apple store and walk out with a stock config now, but I can't go through the hassle of getting my refund etc... :mad:

http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/g5opening/index.htm)
I don't think they charged your card yet, did they?

ddbean

Oct 1, 2003, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by Genie
http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/g5opening/index.htm)
I don't think they charged your card yet, did they? I paid by check, not CC, so yes it's been pulled from my account since July.

Island Roots

Oct 1, 2003, 07:55 PM

Apple representatives are worthless. If they wouldn't create fake stories to tell customers, they'd be worthwhile.

Over the past week, I've got the following estimated ship dates for my Dual 2GHz G5:

Last week
Last weekend
This week
This weekend
Next week
End of next week (latest quote I've been given)

It's purely ridiculous.

Waluigi

Oct 1, 2003, 08:22 PM

My G5 is FINALLY shipping, and FedEx is saying it should arrive at my house tomorrow! I can't wait to kiss the apple logo when I open it, and of course use it!!!

--Waluigi

frankzeg

Oct 1, 2003, 08:51 PM

Got my DP G5 by walking into the Denver Apple store and brandishing my credit card- they took it - for only a few seconds -and then helped me lug that boat anchor out to the getaway truck.
I suspect that this thing could survive a meteoric reentry from space and still keep running "folding".

jer2665

Oct 1, 2003, 11:34 PM

hah. I was talking to my fedex guy today, and he was talking about some poor dumb bastard was on his third try to deliver it. he's never there, and wont sign his slip to let him leave it there. today was the final attempt, and the fedex guy was sick of trying, so he was goign to make sure it went back on a plane tonight. haw haw, i hope he wasn't there and lost it.

Island Roots

Oct 2, 2003, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by jer2665
hah. I was talking to my fedex guy today, and he was talking about some poor dumb bastard was on his third try to deliver it. he's never there, and wont sign his slip to let him leave it there. today was the final attempt, and the fedex guy was sick of trying, so he was goign to make sure it went back on a plane tonight. haw haw, i hope he wasn't there and lost it.

What an idiot - that guy doesn't deserve a G5 :p

ddbean

Oct 3, 2003, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by chmilar
BTW: if you want to complain about Apple's poor handling of the G5 release:

direct_management@group.apple.com

I did send emails to this address and here's the response I got...
"Thank you for your email. Apple regrets the delay in shipping the custom
configured Dual G5s to our online customers and resellers. However, the
employees of the online Apple Store do not have visibility nor any influence
on Apple Authorized Reseller stock levels or anticipated shipping dates.

If you desire compensation for the delay, you may want to consult the
reseller where your order was booked. If you would like to find the Apple
Retail Store nearest you, please visit <http://www.apple.com/retail/>.

Thank you for your interest in Apple products.

Regards,
Laura "

Does anyone have another email address for Apple that they know goes to whatever person or department IS in charge of this?

mozzchops

Oct 3, 2003, 01:40 PM

Just got my Dual today - its fast !!!!

Running panther (7B74) during bootup I don't even get to see the services starting.

BANG, straight into login !

Now why can't I download any new seeds from apple.... ;-)

tychay

Oct 3, 2003, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by richardH
i found them at macwarehouse kingston for 269.95 and poweruser for 199.95 in stock, and at page computers on the nextag search the kingston was much cheaper then macwarehouse...i think 249. and they are in stock. My apple store didn't have any in stock.
...
Apple charges 1300 bucks for 2 gigs..and you don't even know where it comes from...I guess that's how they make the money cause they are giving the computers away...

I still stick by my original comment that it sounds like you are quoting matched pair 2x512MB = 1GB prices. However, the prices aren't as bad as I thought. For instance, OWC sells 2x1GB for $700 (http://eshop.macsales.com/Item_XLR8YourMac.cfm?ID=6077&Item=OWC3200DDR2GBPKIT) with lifetime replacement warrantee which isn't too bad a premium. I can't comment on the quality, but a simple web search should yield a lot of information on OtherWorld Computing since they've been in the Mac biz for a while.

Therefore the $1300 from Apple is on the high side, but that is true anytime you go to a vendor, go to Dell's site if you don't believe me. I'd trust Apple's quality more than your regular vendor, however, as a flakey RAM module severely destroys your computing experience (it creates a slow corruption of the operating system that may take months before it materializes in a kernel crash or whatever). In the PC world people would be hard to separate such flakiness from the fragility of Windows updates.

That's from firsthand experience. AppleCare entitled my computer to run on the bench at AppleStore for free. The problem turned out to be some cheap 3rd party RAM I purchased. Nowadays I run memtest (http://friskythecat.tripod.com/) in single user mode. It's a port to the tried-and-true memtest86 (http://www.memtest86.com/) from the PC world.

(BTW, if you want to be thorough you should mix memory modules and run memtest again because it can't test lowram or high ram effectively.)

Take care,

terry

Island Roots

Oct 3, 2003, 09:36 PM

Just a quick little update, I got tracking numbers for both my G5 and 20" Apple Cinema Display - both should be arriving Tuesday afternoon :D

jimsowden

Oct 3, 2003, 10:15 PM

I work at the computer forum in Doylestown, PA and we have atleast 8 g5 dual 2 gHZ in stock. If you want to call, out number is 215.345.4411 and ask for Jim Sowden.:eek:

Genie

Oct 3, 2003, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by mozzchops
Just got my Dual today - its fast !!!!

Running panther (7B74) during bootup I don't even get to see the services starting.

BANG, straight into login !

Now why can't I download any new seeds from apple.... ;-)

How can I get a panther beta?:confused:

jimsowden

Oct 3, 2003, 10:20 PM

you kneed to sign up for the $500 apple seed on the developers site. Then you get all the pre-release stuff.

Genie

Oct 3, 2003, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by jimsowden
you kneed to sign up for the $500 apple seed on the developers site. Then you get all the pre-release stuff.

http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/g5opening/index.htm)
You mean you pay $500? Is this the thing that also gets you big discounts on the computers?

jimsowden

Oct 3, 2003, 10:27 PM

yah, relativly large discounts. Plus you get almost any software apple makes for the price as long as yuor willing to use a beta forever.

mozzchops

Oct 3, 2003, 10:36 PM

Plus you get all the new OSX releases while your a member. And OSX server for "development"

So, the "real" panther release gets mailed to you for free !!

jer2665

Oct 4, 2003, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by Genie
How can I get a panther beta?:confused:

well, there are other ways, but it's not the most "legal" way to do it, it's very very bad, and obviously we can't condone it.

Lonestar1

Oct 4, 2003, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by Genie
How can I get a panther beta?:confused:

You probably can't at this point. Panther is now golden. The release version will be available in a few weeks.

Genie

Oct 4, 2003, 06:11 PM

[i]Originally posted by jer2665 [/datamem.com

1GB Kit 2 x 512MB DDR PC3200 400MHz $173.98

1GB DDR PC3200 400MHz $339.00

Kinda spensive for the gig stick, ainit?

Marble

Oct 4, 2003, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by Lonestar1
You probably can't at this point. Panther is now golden...

And will come prepackaged with a lapis lazuli case and diamon inlay :D .

Island Roots

Oct 4, 2003, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by Genie
1GB Kit 2 x 512MB DDR PC3200 400MHz $173.98

1GB DDR PC3200 400MHz $339.00

Kinda spensive for the gig stick, ainit?

Not really, considering they're the new kids on the block. If you're questioning why someone would buy a 1GB stick over two 512MB sticks, it's because they want to max out their RAM at either 4GB or 8GB (1.6GHz model for former and 1.8/Dual 2GHz for latter).

Genie

Oct 4, 2003, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by Justin Hancock
why someone would buy a 1GB stick over two 512MB sticks, it's because they want to max out their RAM ...at 8GB ...

Yeah! That's what I wanna do!

----------------
I also just installed 10.2.8 (G5) and it's working well.

jer2665

Oct 4, 2003, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by Justin Hancock
Not really, considering they're the new kids on the block. If you're questioning why someone would buy a 1GB stick over two 512MB sticks, it's because they want to max out their RAM at either 4GB or 8GB (1.6GHz model for former and 1.8/Dual 2GHz for latter).

exactly, that's why I would be willing to go the 700 for the 2x1gb, maybe not maxing it out now, but in a little while if i want to, i'd rather not have to just throw out the 2x512mb to fit the 1 gb ones. in the long run, if that's the plan, the 700 isn't too terrible. especially against apples price.

Archaeopteryx

Oct 5, 2003, 12:32 AM

Hello, I just bought myself one of these G5 machines.. it looked nifty :-D I have been a PC user for about 6 years and before that, in the Mac LC era, I was a Mac user... Well, I found a bunch of mac games I had from that time that I wanted to play, I couldnt get them to work on an emulator.. so I caved in and bought one... but after reading this thread Im scared it might take years for me to get it!!! Have the sped up their shipping times or am I still destined to wait a few months to get it?

jer2665

Oct 5, 2003, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by Archaeopteryx
Hello, I just bought myself one of these G5 machines.. it looked nifty :-D I have been a PC user for about 6 years and before that, in the Mac LC era, I was a Mac user... Well, I found a bunch of mac games I had from that time that I wanted to play, I couldnt get them to work on an emulator.. so I caved in and bought one... but after reading this thread Im scared it might take years for me to get it!!! Have the sped up their shipping times or am I still destined to wait a few months to get it?

I ordered mine sept 20th, and still have an est ship date of 10/24/2003, but i wouldn't be suprised if they push it back again

dongmin

Oct 5, 2003, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by jer2665
I ordered mine sept 20th, and still have an est ship date of 10/24/2003, but i wouldn't be suprised if they push it back again

Applestore has actually moved up the ship time. Originally, they told me Oct. 28 (a couple of weeks ago), but now the site is saying 7-10 days which puts it at Oct. around the 15th.

good luck

jer2665

Oct 5, 2003, 10:41 AM

still est. ship date of 10-24-2003 :mad: I check the est. ship date multiple times a day. that really pisses me off. I just went and reconfigured it the same exact way as I had ordered it, and you're right, it does say 7-10 business days which would put it at October 14-17, grr, i'm calling on monday to find out WHY?!?! and see if they can give me a better idea on when I can expect it. but yay, it's looking like i might get it earlier.
i guess i should make the desk i'm keeping it on soon huh? :D Thank you, that actually kind of made my day to see some chance i might get it earlier. I was willing to wait till the 24th if I got panther pre-installed, but now that it might be even later, i want it sooner.

jer2665

Oct 5, 2003, 10:48 AM

Island Roots

Oct 5, 2003, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by dongmin
Applestore has actually moved up the ship time. Originally, they told me Oct. 28 (a couple of weeks ago), but now the site is saying 7-10 days which puts it at Oct. around the 15th.

good luck

If you're referring to the "estimated ship time" when you place a Dual 2GHz G5 in your shopping cart on the Apple store, don't go by that. It constantly changes (i.e. one week it was 7-10 weeks, then 4-6 weeks, then 5-10 business days, and then back to 4-6 weeks).

Genie

Oct 5, 2003, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by jer2665
:mad: I check the est. ship date multiple times a day. .

http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/g5opening/index.htm)
The website and the apple store staff are pretty clueless about the ship dates.

It's an amazing machine, but wow is the ordering system bizarre.

Lonestar1

Oct 5, 2003, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by Archaeopteryx
Hello, I just bought myself one of these G5 machines.. but after reading this thread Im scared it might take years for me to get it!!! Have the sped up their shipping times or am I still destined to wait a few months to get it?

Ignore the whining.

You can order a G5 from MacConnection, MacZone, or Outpost.com, and they will ship it the same day. Overnight, if you're really in a hurry. You can walk into CompUSA and walk out with any of the G5s except the dual. You can walk into Fry's and walk out with any of the G5s including the dual. Ditto the Apple retail stores.

I don't know what more anyone could ask for.

Of course the people (like me) who ordered G5s before they were in production had to wait a lot longer. Is that surprising?

jer2665

Oct 5, 2003, 08:22 PM

first off, i ordered mine sept 18th, which is 3 full months after they had been shown at the keynote, and I have to wait over a month to receive mine, which is kind of ridiculous to begin with, but ok i'll wait, but look at the amount of people who ordered much earlier that still don't have it.

Yes you can go anywhere and get a non dual 2ghtz g5 , but this thread has been 90+% dual 2.0ghz i'd say, so that's the complaining or "whining" as you put it, that he's been hearing. Also, the problem, obviously is with cto 2ghz g5's, you can pick up a stock one at many places, and most apple stores have them in stock, but explain to me how putting in a 9800 card, and a couple sticks of ram should push that back a month. so that there is suprising. and in my opinion reason for a little "whining"

Island Roots

Oct 5, 2003, 08:42 PM

Archaeopteryx

Oct 5, 2003, 09:45 PM

LOL, well it seems I am destined to wait for a while, No biggie ive got my pc to keep me company :-D Considering this was just an impulse buy I shouldnt worry about it... Is there a reason they are so back ordered? Maybe I can buy aG6 or something and it will get here faster? Is there a better Macintosh I can just change my order to and it will get here faster?

Lonestar1

Oct 5, 2003, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by jer2665
first off, i ordered mine sept 18th, which is 3 full months after they had been shown at the keynote, and I have to wait over a month to receive mine, which is kind of ridiculous to begin with, but ok i'll wait, but look at the amount of people who ordered much earlier that still don't have it.

Ask your car dealer how long it takes to order a new car from the factory. Talk to the people who ordered PT Cruisers before they were in production. Ask Boeing how long it takes to build a 747.

Life doesn't always offer instant gratification, as much as might desire it. Not everything comes out of vending machines like soda -- and even soda machines run empty from time to time.

Yes you can go anywhere and get a non dual 2ghtz g5 , but this thread has been 90+% dual 2.0ghz

You can walk into Fry's, put one in your shopping cart, and buy it right now. Total transaction time, maybe four minutes. What more do you want?

Also, the problem, obviously is with cto 2ghz g5's, you can pick up a stock one at many places, and most apple stores have them in stock, but explain to me how putting in a 9800 card, and a couple sticks of ram should push that back a month.

Maybe Apple can't wish 9800 cards into being and has to wait for its suppliers? No, you're right, that's much too logical. It's much more likely that Apple has plenty of parts on hand and just won't ship them because 1) they're evil, 2) they don't like making money, and 3) their evil is directly specifically at you.

:)

Island Roots

Oct 5, 2003, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by Lonestar1
No, you're right, that's much too logical.

Correct, you must think outside the box

;)

Genie

Oct 5, 2003, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by Lonestar1
[B[
It's much more likely that Apple has plenty of parts on hand and just won't ship them because 1) they're evil, 2) they don't like making money, and 3) their evil is directly specifically at you.

:) [/B]

http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/g5opening/index.htm)
What's that Razor: "Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity..."

Not that I'm calling anyone the "s" word...

jer2665

Oct 5, 2003, 11:49 PM

well, in my opinion, apple has many custom pre-orders. Those people are going to wait for it. They may complain, but when it gets there, it all wont matter anymore to them. So wouldn't it make sense then to have them wait for it, which they will, and put more effort into making stock ones which can be sold much easier and at more places? i'd guess 5 out of every 100 might cancell a pre-order after having to wait a while, so there's 4k+ a person, why not get it out there and make another 3k per computer that's sold stock. It would make sense, I'm not saying it's what they do, but it'd help raise more computers i'd say

also, guess what. I have $5,000 + tied up in the apple store right now, as I paid by check, I dont have that money, it's already been drafted, so until I get my computer I feel I might have a little reason to complain. as far as I know, until your post I hadn't said one thing like "oh apples screwing us and just making us wait" i've merely stated how much it has sucked to have to wait. which it does...obviously. whether it's warranted or not.

also, have you heard about shortages of the 9800 card? a lot of times you see something about that somewhere, I haven't heard anything yet, so maybe that's not it.

Lonestar1

Oct 6, 2003, 03:21 AM

Originally posted by jer2665
well, in my opinion, apple has many custom pre-orders. Those people are going to wait for it. They may complain, but when it gets there, it all wont matter anymore to them.

I do wonder why people who are in a hurry to get their machines ordered a custom configuration. Common sense should have told that customization would likely slow things down.

Most of the custom options -- increased RAM and disk space, Bluetooth connectivity -- can be added easily. The upgraded graphics card is the only option not currently available from third parties, but the 9800 offers only a small performance increase of interest mostly to gamers. For pro applications, there will soon be pro cards available with greatly improved performance.

also, guess what. I have $5,000 + tied up in the apple store right now, as I paid by check, I dont have that money, it's already been drafted, so until I get my computer I feel I might have a little reason to complain.

Well, that is a concern if you need the money. Of course, if you need the money for something else, you shouldn't have used it to buy a computer. And while you chose to pay by check, Apple does not require that. You could have applied for Apple Credit and not had any payments or interest until 2004 -- long after your computer arrives.

Originally posted by jer2665
also, have you heard about shortages of the 9800 card? a lot of times you see something about that somewhere, I haven't heard anything yet, so maybe that's not it.

You do know that the AGP 8X Radeon 9800 for Macintosh is currently manufactured for (and only available with) the G5, don't you? The evidence is right there in those reports you have from Apple.

Of course, if you prefer to believe in a conspiracy....

Lonestar1

Oct 6, 2003, 03:24 AM

By the way, an Apple employee told me that 4500 dual G5s arrived from China last week. That sounds like quite a "trickle" to me.

:)

zaltar

Oct 9, 2003, 08:34 AM

My g5 dualie shipped out today, about 2 weeks ahead of schedule. Can't wait till I get it. I'm replacing my old g4 (Digital Audio) 733mhz. Finally my mac will surpass the pcs I have.

jer2665

Oct 9, 2003, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by zaltar
My g5 dualie shipped out today, about 2 weeks ahead of schedule. Can't wait till I get it. I'm replacing my old g4 (Digital Audio) 733mhz. Finally my mac will surpass the pcs I have.

when did you order it and when was your est ship date? also was it cto, stock, or what did yo uadd, etc etc, i wanna know if i might possibly get mine quicker

ddbean

Oct 9, 2003, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by jer2665
... i wanna know if i might possibly get mine quicker

I'm still waiting for mine through local Apple Reseller. Order 2 GHZ Dual w/ 9800 and BT added. Paid for in check July 25.
Reseller got their first box revceived on Monday, and it showed up without any pre-notice from Apple. Reseller tells me I have 8 or 9 people in front of me.

Dang it this really does sux.

Also does anyone know a valid email address for someone in Apple management (NOT Apple Store) that I can write to?

zaltar

Oct 9, 2003, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by jer2665
when did you order it and when was your est ship date? also was it cto, stock, or what did yo uadd, etc etc, i wanna know if i might possibly get mine quicker

It's a CTO, added bluetooth to it and removed the modem (who needs a modem when you have a cell phone with bluetooth?). I ordered it Sep. 13 and it was est. to ship on or before 10/21/03. I should have it by tuesday! ::drool::

jer2665

Oct 10, 2003, 09:00 AM

hrm, then this gives me hope. only thing that could be a problem is if the 9800 cards are scarce, cause other than that i got most of the same stuff you got, and im sure they have ram and harddrives in stock. now just hope yours comes with panther preinstalled, i couldn't really imagine it would, being before its released in stores, but who knows. atleast it's only $20 for ya

zaltar

Oct 10, 2003, 11:57 AM

Or if you are a developer like me I'll get Panther in their mailling. My G5 was also only $2416(b4 tax). Thats 20% off. Now thats a discount! Then again, the price for being a devloper is far more than the amount I saved. Ouch.

jer2665

Oct 10, 2003, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by zaltar
Or if you are a developer like me I'll get Panther in their mailling. My G5 was also only $2416(b4 tax). Thats 20% off. Now thats a discount! Then again, the price for being a devloper is far more than the amount I saved. Ouch.

haha, isn't that always the way? what do you pay like 1000 a year? do you make enough programming to account for that?

zaltar

Oct 10, 2003, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by jer2665
haha, isn't that always the way? what do you pay like 1000 a year? do you make enough programming to account for that?

Its $500 a year. I'm not shelling out 3gs for the top membership. I get the hardware discount every time I renew(can only be used to buy one item). As for if I make that much programming, let's just say I'm not really the one picking up the developer membership tab. ;)

Archaeopteryx

Oct 21, 2003, 04:06 AM

I know this is pretty much a dead topic, but I just thought I'd announce that I got my shipping notification today a whole 9 days ahead of schedual in the "Apple order status" page. So that makes me really happy :-) I just wonder if it will have that new operating system thing on it or if I will have to pay for the 20 dollar s&h upgrade... Considering it will get here on about the 25th :-/ Kinda makes me wish they hadnt shipped it ahead of schedual.. not that 20 dollars is much.. more of the idea of having to upgrade it soon after I get it. I would have perfered a clean install... Do any of you know if an Upgrade is slower then a plain clean install?

el gringo

Oct 21, 2003, 04:40 AM

no - it's not slower!

jer2665

Oct 21, 2003, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by Archaeopteryx
I know this is pretty much a dead topic, but I just thought I'd announce that I got my shipping notification today a whole 9 days ahead of schedual in the "Apple order status" page. So that makes me really happy :-) I just wonder if it will have that new operating system thing on it or if I will have to pay for the 20 dollar s&h upgrade... Considering it will get here on about the 25th :-/ Kinda makes me wish they hadnt shipped it ahead of schedual.. not that 20 dollars is much.. more of the idea of having to upgrade it soon after I get it. I would have perfered a clean install... Do any of you know if an Upgrade is slower then a plain clean install?

i have been asking everyone, but lucky you. but did you get the 9800 pro card? that's definately what's holding me up, and it kinda sucks seeing everyone get theirs early, mine still says the same ship date, and i dont have a good feeling about it, i have a feeling it's going to take longer :confused:

niallerc

Oct 21, 2003, 08:34 AM

Wohoooo first post

Howyiz folks

Took delivery of mine 2 weeks ago, took it out (the G5 that is) for a few hours then put it away again (house renovations) but I've been giving it welly this week and I have to say it's a beast and the 20" cinema screen is a joy to work with, pi$$es all over 1.25 Dual G4 I have in the office plus the whole aesthetics, soooo nice, though was using it last night around 12.30am and I could hear the chirping whirring cricket sound in the box but hey it's a G5 and my first *new* mac at home, I can live with it.

ok how do I do the bold in my sig?

jer2665

Oct 21, 2003, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by niallerc
ok how do I do the bold in my sig?

easiest way to do any of that is to click one of the buttons above where you type, like typing the b gives you the tags. or bold is simple [ B ]text[ /B ] without the spaces

niallerc

Oct 21, 2003, 09:38 AM

Ahhh thanx Jer another forum I frequent uses < > so I'll modify that now.

ddbean

Oct 21, 2003, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by jer2665
... the 9800 pro card? that's definately what's holding me up...

How do you know the 9800 is holding up your order? I got that on my order too and I'm still waiting for my shipment through local Apple reseller, but I thought it was the reseller channel going slow, not the 9800 builds.

jer2665

Oct 21, 2003, 01:19 PM

well, i dont actually "know" anything about it. i should have just said i assume. because from this post, alot of the people who have gotten their g5's early, didn't have the 9800 card, and as someone was so nice to point out in here, the card is only made for macs, for the g5's right now, so I just figure. Because a lot of the other people seem to have the same configurations as mine, just minus the 9800 card. Mine is scheduled to ship this friday, and i haven't gotten any advanced word, so hopefully it ships then, though im not overly confident :(

Archaeopteryx

Oct 21, 2003, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by jer2665
i have been asking everyone, but lucky you. but did you get the 9800 pro card? that's definately what's holding me up, and it kinda sucks seeing everyone get theirs early, mine still says the same ship date, and i dont have a good feeling about it, i have a feeling it's going to take longer :confused:

Yes mine is coming with the 9800pro... no modem and no DVD burner since I already have one I might as well save the cash :-D Aside from that its standard...

jer2665

Oct 21, 2003, 03:03 PM

well, there goes my idea, it most likly isn't the video card, maybe it's the blue tooth, becuase i can't see it being the ram, or the harddrives, and that's about the only different thing i got.

ddbean

Oct 21, 2003, 03:14 PM

You didn't say but I'm assuming you ordered direct through apple store? If so then that leaves my theory out in the wind that only resellers are behind now. Maybe Apple is doing the best they can delivering a high demand product. I hope this means that total custom ordered Dual G5's pre-ordered will turn out to be well over what's been announced so far.

jer2665

Oct 21, 2003, 04:05 PM

sorry, I bought mine right from the apple store at www.apple.com/store/ on sept 18th. est ship date is still the 24th, so hopefully it goes then. but yeah, it's ALL g5's not just resellers. well to most people. a lot seem to be getting theirs early, i just haven't.

Genie

Oct 21, 2003, 04:19 PM

http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/g5opening/index.htm)

I'm all for G5 consumption (they sure got my money!), but I figured new orders would be trickling off as REV.B approaches (I assume), in Jan/Feb.

Archaeopteryx

Oct 21, 2003, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by jer2665
sorry, I bought mine right from the apple store at www.apple.com/store/ on sept 18th. est ship date is still the 24th, so hopefully it goes then. but yeah, it's ALL g5's not just resellers. well to most people. a lot seem to be getting theirs early, i just haven't.

I bought mine from the apple store on the 7th of this month... It was originaly suppose to ship out on the 29th...

jer2665

Oct 21, 2003, 05:17 PM

boy am I pissed now. i'd say most people here are getting them early, and i have a very bad feeling i wont even get mine the 24th, im going to call them tonight and make sure everything is going along as planned, and find out what the hell is taking so long, i dont get what they could be in short supply of as it's not the 9800 card, i can't see it being a harddrive or ram, i doubt it's the superdrive, i just dont get what is missing.

jer2665

Oct 21, 2003, 05:25 PM

bah, i called them, "and blah blah blah, if all goes according to plan it is scheduled to ship out the 24th, and you do have next day so you should have it next monday" BAH! I KNEW THAT! i was hoping they could give me some input, i think in their system they gotta have some sort of notification, like if it's waiting, or put together or anything like that. This has really annoyed me seeing person after person recieve theirs early, and i haven't. I just wish i knew what there was a shortage of, or whats taking so long with mine, where most other people who are receiving them early have pretty much the same configuration. Atleast you aren't getting yours before me Archaeopteryx or i'd be pretty damn annoyed with the apple store.

(dont worry everyone, the whining will stop october 27th god willing) :D

Genie

Oct 21, 2003, 05:52 PM

How'd you get to be a Demi-God so fast?

jer2665

Oct 21, 2003, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by Genie
How'd you get to be a Demi-God so fast?

I paid the $20 to contribute to the site, because i know how much it sucks doign anything for free like arn and some of the others that help do, so i wanted to contribute, and with that people become demi-gods with a date at the end, anyone with that contributed.

Genie

Oct 21, 2003, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by jer2665
I paid the $20 to contribute to the site, because i know how much it sucks doign anything for free like arn and some of the others that help do, so i wanted to contribute, and with that people become demi-gods with a date at the end, anyone with that contributed.

http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/g5opening/index.htm)
What else cool comes with the donation?
Maybe I'll donate!

jer2665

Oct 21, 2003, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by Genie
http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/g5opening/index.htm)
What else cool comes with the donation?
Maybe I'll donate!

that and the ad free version. so you dont get all of the popups and ads on the main page.

iHack

Oct 21, 2003, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by Genie
http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/Genie-G5Computer50pix.jpg (http://www.geniesongs.com/genie/endorsements/apple/g5opening/index.htm)
What else cool comes with the donation?
Maybe I'll donate!

For one, you get a mug! check out http://www.macrumors.com/contrib.html for more info.

M.

Genie

Oct 21, 2003, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by iHack
For one, you get a mug! check out http://www.macrumors.com/contrib.html for more info.

M.

Thanks for the link! I'll check it out!

jer2665

Oct 21, 2003, 09:29 PM

the mug would be cool, i would have paid for it, but on the website at the bottom it says...

[QUOTE]Mugs are out of stock and may be discontinued. Sorry. Will post more info when available[QUOTE]

so pretty much now what you get, is the "demi-god (date it expires)" in your forum. And the no-add version which is pretty darn nice too.

but another update. I just got the confirmation that my g5 shipped yesterday, my god am i excited. it was awesome to see that, and i should hopefully have it tomorrow. knock on wood. yayyyyyy

Archaeopteryx

Oct 21, 2003, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by jer2665
bah, i called them, "and blah blah blah, if all goes according to plan it is scheduled to ship out the 24th, and you do have next day so you should have it next monday" BAH! I KNEW THAT! i was hoping they could give me some input, i think in their system they gotta have some sort of notification, like if it's waiting, or put together or anything like that. This has really annoyed me seeing person after person recieve theirs early, and i haven't. I just wish i knew what there was a shortage of, or whats taking so long with mine, where most other people who are receiving them early have pretty much the same configuration. Atleast you aren't getting yours before me Archaeopteryx or i'd be pretty damn annoyed with the apple store.

(dont worry everyone, the whining will stop october 27th god willing) :D

Ohh no!! Prepare to be mad!! :(

mine gets here on Saturday :-D Not much before you.. But still, I do swee how that would annoy you.. I for one dont blame you if you are mad at apple, because if you ordered so much before me, in theory you should have gotten it before me too.... but yeah.. mine shipped 10 days ahead.. on the slowest shipping plan though... so I dont get it till saturday.. for now its on the back of a mule walking ever so slowly over here...

jer2665

Oct 22, 2003, 12:04 AM

haha, nah good for you. i'd be pissed if mine hadn't shipped and you got yours.

But do they ship ups or usps for the standard shipping? because if it goes ups, they dont deliver on saturdays (except saturday delivery, which is quite a bit more and they wont send it that way) so you wouldn't get it till monday, that'd suck. I had to do the next day shipping becuase if i knew that it was put together and just travelling around the country i'd have an aneurism. So eh it's more, but i get it quick and dont freak out waiting.

Archaeopteryx

Oct 22, 2003, 01:03 AM

LOL< I know what you mean, I wish I had paid more and just had it here already :-)!!!! Ohh, and they shipped mine Fedex for some reason....

madforrit

Oct 22, 2003, 02:58 AM

Arch - you ordered on the 7th and it's shipped?

Nice! That means mine should be coming soon! (ordered oct. 11, est. ship 11/4)

Did you add on the 9800? Wait, I could just read your previous posts now couldn't I....

Arrrggghhhhh, apple store order status down! Can't check order status every 5 minutes compulsively!!!! must check...now...*gasp*...

jer2665

Oct 22, 2003, 07:33 AM

Originally posted by madforrit
Arch - you ordered on the 7th and it's shipped?

Nice! That means mine should be coming soon! (ordered oct. 11, est. ship 11/4)

Did you add on the 9800? Wait, I could just read your previous posts now couldn't I....

Arrrggghhhhh, apple store order status down! Can't check order status every 5 minutes compulsively!!!! must check...now...*gasp*...

haha, that's exactly how i felt. I used to check like every half hour atleast, but boy is it worth it when you get it. i just hope they held it back so it has panther pre-installed. i'll know before 10:30 today :) !!!

ddbean

Oct 22, 2003, 10:22 AM

See, now I seem to be the one with the right to get REALLY :mad: MAD, since mine was a Pre-Order, Paid in full (check) back on July 25 through Apple reseller, and I'm still waiting. All they tell me is mine's "in process" but they've said that now for over 1 week.

Dual 2 Ghz G5 with 9800 with BT and APx installed.

niallerc

Oct 22, 2003, 11:16 AM

I did the same thing ddBean and got mine delivered 2 weeks ago (but I haven't got the 9800 think it's a 9600) anyway phoned them up at 7am this morning and asked am I entitled to panther and was promptly told ermmm NO only G5s bought on or after 8th of October, now IMHO after waiting over 3 months for delivery for a machine and monitor that cost me over 5,000 euro I think I'm entitled to a little compensation from apple also while trying to get around the October 8th deadline as I only paid for it when it was delivered I found out I paid on the 5th of october so no joy there either.

jer2665

Oct 22, 2003, 11:36 AM

nope, any g5 is entitled to the $20 upgrade. Everyone reguardless of date ordered or date recieved. It's any other computer ordered after that date that gets it, but all g5's do I'm pretty sure.

For Power Mac G5 systems
Customers who purchase a qualifying new Power Mac G5 (M9020LL/A, M9031LL/A, M9032LL/A) regardless of purchase date that does not have Mac OS X Panther v10.3 included can upgrade to Mac OS X Panther.

jer2665

Oct 22, 2003, 11:37 AM

I got it today, this morning actually, it's pretty damn cool, got speakers (quiet speakers, but none the less) built into it. but i gotta say it does suck. It came with Jaguar, not panther installed, so i have to do the up to date os thing and wait for them to get me panther. That kinda sucks concidering it's coming out in 2 days, and hell, people are actually getting theirs now. but i got it, and it is awesome. VERY heavy, VERY big, but awesome.

niallerc

Oct 22, 2003, 11:41 AM

it's a thing of beauty ain't it, just sit back and stare at it for a while.

madforrit

Oct 22, 2003, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by jer2665
I got it today, this morning actually, it's pretty damn cool, got speakers (quiet speakers, but none the less) built into it. but i gotta say it does suck. It came with Jaguar, not panther installed, so i have to do the up to date os thing and wait for them to get me panther. That kinda sucks concidering it's coming out in 2 days, and hell, people are actually getting theirs now. but i got it, and it is awesome. VERY heavy, VERY big, but awesome.

It'll be interesting to see if mine comes with Panther pre-installed.

Est. ship date still 11/4. Thank GOD they got that order status page back up!! :p

madforrit

Oct 23, 2003, 03:22 AM

OMG! It shipped! Checking the order status every 5 minutes paid off! :D

jer2665

Oct 23, 2003, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by madforrit
OMG! It shipped! Checking the order status every 5 minutes paid off! :D

haha, nice. i knew there was a good reason to constantly checking that out :p now you're going to have to wait for panther to ship, but that isn't that big of a deal.

ddbean

Oct 23, 2003, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by jer2665
I got it today, this morning actually,....

OK, jer2665, do you mind giving me your Apple web order # so I can write a formal complaint to Apple about how they are mistreating Apple resellers, and any customer who chooses to support them?

Your G5 web order being placed on Sept 18 and delivered on Oct 22 is a prime example of something being wrong at Apple.

My order paid in full on July 25 through my local Apple reseller, and I still haven't received it.

Same config as yours less the 4 gigs of Ram and 250 HD.

jer2665

Oct 31, 2003, 09:02 AM

Did you get it yet? hopefully.

ddbean

Oct 31, 2003, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by jer2665
Did you get it yet? hopefully. Not yet, LAst report a week ago was it was going into QC lab for testing, and no report since. Reseller is going to call inside factory contact he has this mornig and try to get an answer. He things Apple has found problems with some thing, since Apple sent them a bunch of logic boards and other releated spare parts for the 1.8 Ghz and Duals, yet no other repair shop around has been sent theses, so he's a little suspecious of what's happening right now.

ddbean

Nov 8, 2003, 01:33 PM

I finally picked up my Dual G5 and 20in display last night 11/7/2003. (Ordered and paid for on July 23, 03 at local IAD)

First what a sweet sweet machine and overall design and oh yeah THE SPEED ...awesome.

Now for my bitching...

1) It didn't come with 9800 nor BT as Apple found a conflict between the two recently (was told first batches of G5s didn't have this problem) I'll have to take the box back in a week or so to get 9800 and B/T installed.

2) It didn't come with 10.3 installed (only 10.2.8) Guess I'll have to go through Apple's Up to Date and pay extra $20, which kinda sucks, since 10.3 came out before mine was built.

Sweet news is I got an extra 512 MB RAM for no charge by the IAD that Apple so poorly supports now.