View Full Version : Illustrator help: Making a conical label
macjakob
Dec 6, 2007, 07:14 AM
Hey,
I have some trouble making a conical label in Illustrator. It is a label for a conical cup (imagine a starbucks cup you have to put a label around). I have all the measurements for the label, but I just can't figure out how to make it in illustrator, especially the curvature of it.
Does anyone have some experience with this?
Thanks in advance!
Jakob
dops7107
Dec 6, 2007, 08:46 AM
If I understand correctly - doesn't it just have to be trapezoid-shaped? Assuming you want a straight edge at the top and bottom.
JasonElise1983
Dec 6, 2007, 02:06 PM
yeah, i also believe it's just a trapezoid with a flat top and bottom. Just make sure you get your angles and measurements right. The best way i would go about it, is to cut apart the cup you want to use, and fold it out flat, scan it, and then build your file on top of it. Take measurements too, while it's flat, so you know that it's right.
-JE
heehee
Dec 6, 2007, 03:16 PM
This should help you. :)
Map Art. (http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/tutorials/illcs2at_mapto3d/)
PixelFactory
Dec 6, 2007, 05:28 PM
Nope. Not just a trapezoid. The top and bottom will have a curve. If you don't curve the artwork with the cup it will distort upward on the edges. I agree that cutting apart the cup and laying it flat to get measurements is a good way to start. Scanning it so you can get the curve right will help too. You might also try to contact the manufacturer of the cup to see if they have any digital versions of the die they use.
AlexisV
Dec 7, 2007, 03:22 PM
Is this for a commercial job? A lot of packaging printers will let you submit artwork flat and they'll reshape it in their rip software.
stevep
Dec 7, 2007, 06:09 PM
It's basic technical drawing. You need to know how to develop a cone, and to do that you need the diameters at the top and bottom, and the vertical distance between them. I'm not sure Illustrator has the tools to do this, but a CAD program would have, or you could draught it by hand. I've done an example for a label 100mm tall, with a diameter at the top of 120mm and at the bottom 72mm - if you let me have the accurate dimensions (in mm please!) for your container I'll do one for you.
oldschool
Dec 7, 2007, 11:41 PM
It's basic technical drawing. You need to know how to develop a cone, and to do that you need the diameters at the top and bottom, and the vertical distance between them. I'm not sure Illustrator has the tools to do this, but a CAD program would have, or you could draught it by hand. I've done an example for a label 100mm tall, with a diameter at the top of 120mm and at the bottom 72mm - if you let me have the accurate dimensions (in mm please!) for your container I'll do one for you.
man...you're a really nice guy. props to you. i was just reading through the thread for interest and was surprised by your generosity.
ArstArts
Dec 12, 2007, 12:44 PM
hi i'm new to this but i'm designing a label for a bottle i created in 3DS Max. i'm going to give you the hieght of the label and the diameters of the two circles, if that's ok?
erm i'll post my e-mail so you can send me the draught
rjcook03@aol.com
thankyou so so so much
you're gonna sve my life, cause i couldn't possibly of drawn the shape to scale on fireworks or any other related soft ware
hieght 500
upper diameter 435
lower diameter 770
if you need units just use mm
thanks again
i'l post you an image of the bottle the label is for
stevep
Dec 13, 2007, 04:25 PM
Just mailed you a drawing - you'll have to check it's ok - I'm a bit rushed today so could easily have screwed it up.
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