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MacRumors
Dec 6, 2007, 08:12 AM
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In August, a rumor (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/08/29/volkswagen-apple-working-on-icar/) circulated that Apple and Volkswagen were in early meetings to work on incorporating Apple products into Volkswagen compact cars. The most recent reports, coming from PressPortal.de (http://www.presseportal.de/pm/8185/1097327/capital_g_j_wirtschaftspresse/rss) indicate that the project is "shaky" but that Apple has been in talks with other car manufacturers.

Translation via Jalopnik (http://jalopnik.com/cars/news/vw-apple-icar-talks-on-hold-330531.php):
The exploratory talks on a cooperation of the Wolfsburg-based Volkswagen Group with the US computer maker Apple advised for information of the business magazine 'Capital' (issue 26/2007, EVT 6 December) to a halt. In September, VW chairman Martin Winterkorn had confidential talks with Apple CEO Steve Jobs in California. Because of this, there was speculation of the development of a so-called "i-Car", a compact car equipped with Apple products. VW had confirmed the talks. "The project is shaky," said 'Capital'. Other car manufacturers have had talks with Apple talks on cooperation.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/12/06/volkswagen-and-apple-icar-project-on-hold/)



Grimace
Dec 6, 2007, 08:15 AM
It would make sense for Apple to partner with more than just one manufacturer. An integrated CarPod (40GB hard drive) with iTunes interface might get me to by the rest of the car too! :p

Chisholm
Dec 6, 2007, 08:16 AM
My Rabbit carries Apple products all the time. Y'all go sit down and shut up.

SciTeach
Dec 6, 2007, 08:21 AM
Darn...I was hoping to play "Slug iBug" or "Red iZip":p

BKKbill
Dec 6, 2007, 08:27 AM
Here we go again. The Steve playing hardball. Seems to me this has not been to successful the last few times. Or is that just me?

P-Worm
Dec 6, 2007, 08:30 AM
Here we go again. The Steve playing hardball. Seems to me this has not been to successful the last few times. Or is that just me?

It's just you. Apple's stock has never been higher, their market share is increasing and iPhones are flying off the shelves.

P-Worm

hdasmith
Dec 6, 2007, 08:47 AM
My Rabbit carries Apple products all the time. Y'all go sit down and shut up.

Why do they call the Golf the Rabbit over there?! I've never understood it, and in my mind Golf is a far better name. What I really want for my Golf is a radio which my iPhone can plug into with the same functionality as the iPod does, AND offer hands free calling. At the moment, I need two separate pieces of equipment to achieve this. Seems such a simple idea.

mdntcallr
Dec 6, 2007, 08:54 AM
personally, i couldnt care less if apple did a branded car.

i would much rather prefer they stick to ipod and iphone connectivity to the car. and a smart car functionality much like microsoft's SYNC.

stick to the business you know apple

Stampyhead
Dec 6, 2007, 08:55 AM
Why do they call the Golf the Rabbit over there?! I've never understood it, and in my mind Golf is a far better name.

It used to be called the Rabbit over here too, but they changed the name back in the 70's or 80's I believe.

Jshwon
Dec 6, 2007, 08:56 AM
The "Rabbit" was the original car that the "Golf" platform was based off of. Kind of what started the small compact "fun" car for VW. I hope Apple partners with VW. They just seem like a perfect match. I can't see their products in say GM or Ford vehicles. Maybe Mercedes but that limits the market.

SthrnCmfrtr
Dec 6, 2007, 08:57 AM
Why Volkswagen? They're terribly unreliable of late (source: Consumer Reports). Of course, now that I think about it, that makes sense...

Chisholm
Dec 6, 2007, 08:57 AM
Why do they call the Golf the Rabbit over there?! I've never understood it, and in my mind Golf is a far better name. What I really want for my Golf is a radio which my iPhone can plug into with the same functionality as the iPod does, AND offer hands free calling. At the moment, I need two separate pieces of equipment to achieve this. Seems such a simple idea.

Well, it was called Golf until this model year. It seems that after years of marketing research they found that Americans aren't particularly fond of the sport. So they reached into their old "bag of tricks" (read: arse) and pulled out a Rabbit. Same car. We had and loved a 2000 Golf. Then a 2002 Jetta Wagon. I think its called something else in Italy, means idiot or child molester or something. Now a Rabbit. Again. Americans must like bunnies I guess.:rolleyes:

Orng
Dec 6, 2007, 09:15 AM
My first car was a used 1981 VW Rabbit convertible.
Lots of memories in that car. Learned a lot about basic auto mechanics and about having sex in awkward spaces. (nb. vinyl seats stick to bare skin)

zombitronic
Dec 6, 2007, 09:16 AM
I'd love to see something like this:

http://www.kusnetz.net/prius/final-thumb.jpg

http://www.appletvhacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/appletv_gps2.jpg

http://www.kusnetz.net/prius/
http://www.appletvhacks.net/?p=119&cp=2
http://www.leftlanenews.com/mac-user-installs-mac-mini-with-front-row-in-ford-f-150.html

TitoC
Dec 6, 2007, 09:21 AM
That's funny. I thought they had already collaborated on this (http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/16/is-the-vw-space-up-interface-developed-by-apple/). Looks very "Apple" to me. This model was shown at a Volkswagen car show not too long ago. Check out the movie clips.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/16/is-the-vw-space-up-interface-developed-by-apple/

Notice the folder icons? Look a little familiar Leopard fans?

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/11/spaceupblue_hi25_440.jpg


http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/11/vw_space-up-blue38_jackjohnson.jpg

AidenShaw
Dec 6, 2007, 09:24 AM
http://media1.podtech.net/media/2006/10/PID_001132/Podtech_IDF_Automotive_UMPC_IDF_Automotive_UMPC_2006-10-11_Jason_Lopez_home_thumb.jpg

http://www.podtech.net/home/1262/umpc-goes-auto

UMPC Goes Auto
October 11th, 2006 7:42 pm

Intel says its Ultra Mobile PC is designed to give users full PC capability in places where a laptop is too big or clunky. How about in a car? A project with Volkswagen looks fairly promising. It would provide three users with access to three screens installed in the front

Manatee
Dec 6, 2007, 09:27 AM
I think I can live with this news. As long as there's still a jack where I can plug in my iPod in the car. ;)

RoadieJodie
Dec 6, 2007, 09:32 AM
To clear things up . . . .

UK: Golf GTI
US: GTI

deathshrub
Dec 6, 2007, 09:36 AM
I'd love to see something like this:

http://www.kusnetz.net/prius/final-thumb.jpg

http://www.appletvhacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/appletv_gps2.jpg

http://www.kusnetz.net/prius/
http://www.appletvhacks.net/?p=119&cp=2
http://www.leftlanenews.com/mac-user-installs-mac-mini-with-front-row-in-ford-f-150.html

You'd love an apple tv in your car? Oooooooooooooooook.

Please don't do this, Apple.

deathshrub
Dec 6, 2007, 09:38 AM
It's just you. Apple's stock has never been higher, their market share is increasing and iPhones are flying off the shelves.

P-Worm

Who buys an ipod but is really aware of one of the most obscure rumors, that Apple is developing a "car"? Most don't really care.

Clive At Five
Dec 6, 2007, 09:43 AM
Personally, I think the idea is stupid. Sure, sure, it'd be nice to have an Apple-designed dashboard console for your music (and movies for the spoiled kids in the backseat), but honestly... can Apple really revolutionize an entire car media system? Well, probably 'yes,' but still. How could you distribute it to the masses unless it's in the standard radio form-factor? You can't. This being the case, I would find it very difficult to believe Apple would sell a radio head-unit.

Three reasons who an Apple head-unit would fail:

A) Not easy to install.
B) Would probably omit radio, or something arrogantly stupid like that.
C) Overpriced, of course. Probably $399 or something.

Just my bitter two cents.

-Clive

grumpy
Dec 6, 2007, 09:49 AM
You know, it could simply be partnering as an industrial design shop, a la the Jaguar XF.

Popeye206
Dec 6, 2007, 09:55 AM
LOL! It never ceases to amaze me how so many people bitter towards Apple get on this site? My goodness people... this is just rumor mill and we have no details... for all we know VW is being a pain, or the deal is fine and just going through negotiations, or ????? Does it matter?

I'm sure Apple is doing it's best to get tighter integration of the iPod with all the manufactures and we'll see more as things happen. I'm more concerned over what's going to be announced at MacWorld to drool over (and probably buy) for 2008.

twoodcc
Dec 6, 2007, 09:58 AM
That's funny. I thought they had already collaborated on this (http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/16/is-the-vw-space-up-interface-developed-by-apple/). Looks very "Apple" to me. This model was shown at a Volkswagen car show not too long ago. Check out the movie clips.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/16/is-the-vw-space-up-interface-developed-by-apple/

Notice the folder icons? Look a little familiar Leopard fans?

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/11/spaceupblue_hi25_440.jpg


http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/11/vw_space-up-blue38_jackjohnson.jpg


i think that's the only way i'd ever buy a VW

carlgo
Dec 6, 2007, 10:27 AM
The instrument panels on all but the cheapest cars are pretty complex these days and there are many things to view and control like radios, satellite radios, iPod integrations, rear seat entertainment, CD, DVD, GPS navigation, cell phones, alarms, etc.

Add to that heating, air conditioning, recirculation/filters, interior and exterior lights, many wiper modes, back-up cameras, zone climate controls, cruise controls, switching in and out of all-wheel drive, etc.

Now, start adding all the controls and images associated with electric/hybrid vehicles now and maybe fuel cell stuff in the future.

BMW bravely went to the iDrive system that did allow eyes on the road control with a joystick that could be operated by touch and repetition once you memorized the sequences.

Many customers liked this, being interested in technology and all, but many did not and sales were lost and cars actually returned because it was just too complicated for some. Clearly a system like this would never work for mass market cars like Honda, Toyota, Ford, GM, etc.

So, there is a need for simple and intuitive controls that everyone can use and which allow drivers to actually look at the road occasionally.

Ford heavily advertises its Microsoft system capabilities. I wonder if there will be a duel between different car makers and whether they have Apple or MS systems.

I would think Apple would be far better off starting out with Mercedes or BMW and then trickle down from there. VW would be my very last choice as its reputation in the US, at least, is absolutely terrible. There is even talk of them leaving this market.

There was mention of Apple being arrogant in its dealings with VW. I think they would have a hard time matching VW in that regard.

ilogic
Dec 6, 2007, 10:46 AM
It makes perfect sense, VW owners are a culture, VW drivers don't go back to Toyota, Honda, Ford, GM... even though some offer more for the same price tag... you have to own a VDUB to understand... does it sound like Apple? :rolleyes:

I love my Golf! with my :apple: on the butt. Hot.

zombitronic
Dec 6, 2007, 10:47 AM
You'd love an apple tv in your car? Oooooooooooooooook.

Please don't do this, Apple.

Note, "something like."

No, I wouldn't want an :apple:TV in my car. I'd love a Mac or even a glorified iPhone (or rumored Mac Tablet), possibly with a custom UI and version of OS X and Front Row, in my car. Touch screen, AM/FM radio, CD/DVD (Blu-Ray/HD?), WiFi syncing to my home network when in range, GPS with Google Earth, maybe even 3G, since it would all be powered by the car. Maybe a battery for when the car is off.

A standard installable car stereo form factor with a mechanized slide out screen would be nice, as that would make it available to people who aren't going to buy a new car. They'd almost have to, to have any significant market effect. Either that, or partner with MANY manufacturers.

Bottom line, a sweet, Apple designed vehicle interface. I'd be willing pay about the same price as a Mac Mini, maybe a little bit more.

Let it be known, I think this is UNLIKELY (anytime soon), but I can still dream. So don't hate. After all, better interface integration is the future, and I've experienced few interfaces that rival Apple's design.

twoodcc
Dec 6, 2007, 10:50 AM
Note, "something like."

No, I wouldn't want an :apple:TV in my car. I'd love a Mac or even a glorified iPhone (or rumored Mac Tablet), possibly with a custom UI and version of OS X and Front Row, in my car. Touch screen, AM/FM radio, CD/DVD (Blu-Ray/HD?), WiFi syncing to my home network when in range, GPS with Google Earth, maybe even 3G, since it would all be powered by the car. Maybe a battery for when the car is off.

A standard installable car stereo form factor with a mechanized slide out screen would be nice, as that would make it available to people who aren't going to buy a new car. They'd almost have to, to have any significant market effect. Either that, or partner with MANY manufacturers.

Bottom line, a sweet, Apple designed vehicle interface. I'd be willing pay about the same price as a Mac Mini, maybe a little bit more.

Let it be known, I think this is UNLIKELY (anytime soon), but I can still dream. So don't hate. After all, better interface integration is the future, and I've experienced few interfaces that rival Apple's design.

i would love something like that in my truck. that'd be a dream come true :apple:

nicadmous
Dec 6, 2007, 10:52 AM
It would make sense for Apple to partner with more than just one manufacturer. An integrated CarPod (40GB hard drive) with iTunes interface might get me to by the rest of the car too! :p

i want to have mac products in my mini cooper, that way i could call it my mini mac cooper :D

NOV
Dec 6, 2007, 10:59 AM
That's funny. I thought they had already collaborated on this (http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/16/is-the-vw-space-up-interface-developed-by-apple/). Looks very "Apple" to me. This model was shown at a Volkswagen car show not too long ago. Check out the movie clips.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/16/is-the-vw-space-up-interface-developed-by-apple/

Notice the folder icons? Look a little familiar Leopard fans?

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/11/spaceupblue_hi25_440.jpg


http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/11/vw_space-up-blue38_jackjohnson.jpg

I always wondered why car manufacturers didn't implement such a concept before. You could even extend it further with things like:

* have some kind of output on the system enabling you to do your mileage administration
* have some kind of input on the system to distribute media in the car (seats with built in displays)
* customize the way your front panel looks, not only the functions but also the styling (eg. make the front panel look like it has a 1930's Mercedes meters)

theheadguy
Dec 6, 2007, 11:05 AM
It's just you. Apple's stock has never been higher, their market share is increasing and iPhones are flying off the shelves.
P-Worm
/sigh
Wish I could say the same for Apple TV...

Oh wait, that's just a "hobby"

Clive At Five
Dec 6, 2007, 11:18 AM
Ford heavily advertises its Microsoft system capabilities. I wonder if there will be a duel between different car makers and whether they have Apple or MS systems.

I would be torn because I love Mercury... but I'm not too fond of MS. I think, though, as long as it synced to iTunes/iPod in some way shape or form, I would be sufficiently pleased. Has MS come to grips yet with the fact that the iPod won? Hopefully they would be humble enough to have interoperability with the ecosystem...

(OT: At the same time, I wish Apple would be humble enough to work with other ecosystems! Arrogant bastards!)

-Clive

tuneman07
Dec 6, 2007, 11:28 AM
This is an interesting issue for me because I have a VW and it is sort of "ghetto integrated" with Apple. All I have is the stock (1997) radio/cassette head unit with one of those tape adapters and honestly it sounds as good as any other Ipod car hookup toy I've seen/used/heard. I was ready to go drop 300 on a whole system for my Ipod but the tape sounds so good I need nothing more- my point here is its kinda stupid to integrate so much with a car because it is so unnecessary and only serves to eliminate people's options. Its ridiculously easy to put an Ipod plug into a head unit and boom you have instant integration. Sure its cool to have a big screen in the dash and a Ipod mount and yada yada but most people probly don't care that much.
As for the VW part, honestly I have a lot of problems with mine but its a TDI (diesel) and the engine blows away anything I've ever had as far as MPG's, durability, and reliability so I can overlook the electrical issues annoying minor things breaking. VW drivers remind me of mac users though its like a cult- especially the TDI people I have been almost scared at gas stations by some of these wacko's when they see my car. (oh yea don't ever tell them you are at a gas station they will freak out- its a fuel station)

JoeG4
Dec 6, 2007, 11:40 AM
This doesn't surprise me, Volkswagen is a very egotistical company, and so is Apple. Just like Moto + Apple, this aint going to go over well ;)

That said, I don't get it - VW isn't really known for interesting designs, they just make super-conservative things. The current GTI almost looks like a Honda Civic hatch would had Honda made one for the US, the Jetta (albeit using the same platform as the GTI with a trunk) looks a LOT like a Corolla, and the Passat looks like every other BMW ripoff out there (Altima, Accord, Genesis, G8, G35, I could go on), the Beetle is really outdated (albeit could easily be brought up to date), and the SUVs are nothing special design-wise either.

Some VWs have nice interiors, some don't - and they all have gigantic cluster screens and generally nice looking instrument clusters. The interiors are a little Apple-ish anyway, but juuuust a tiny bit too funky. But still probably the closest to something Apple would do.

The Japanese cars are flat out too funky for Apple to deal with, everyone including Lexus is in a race to fill up the interior with as many buttons as possible attempting to look like a plane cockpit, and Honda seems more likely to conspire with Dell to make an XPScar.

The domestics? I dunno if it'd fit with Apple's "image" so to put it. Ford? No they're already in bed with MS. GM? I dunno, GM doesn't want ANYTHING screwing up OnStar. Chrysler would be a good option, sorta. Their car designs are different, but the car interiors definitely aren't Apple. I think that could be fixed, and I doubt Chrysler would fight with them.

OTOH I think Mercedes would be just as good a shot, if not BMW. Both of which are luxury marques desperate to be tied into something as cool as the iPod ;)

Sweetbike40
Dec 6, 2007, 12:43 PM
It makes perfect sense, VW owners are a culture, VW drivers don't go back to Toyota, Honda, Ford, GM... even though some offer more for the same price tag... you have to own a VDUB to understand... does it sound like Apple? :rolleyes:

I love my Golf! with my :apple: on the butt. Hot.


I agree. Although my Beetle has been back to the dealer a few too many times.... i'd buy it again. I can't see myself in a boring Toyota or Honda and NEVER a Ford or GM!! HA! This car rides like a dream. It just feels good, like Apple products. I think the value of the Beetle is good.

walangij
Dec 6, 2007, 03:43 PM
I would think Apple would be far better off starting out with Mercedes or BMW and then trickle down from there. VW would be my very last choice as its reputation in the US, at least, is absolutely terrible. There is even talk of them leaving this market.

There was mention of Apple being arrogant in its dealings with VW. I think they would have a hard time matching VW in that regard.

I think Apple would find more success in the VW market than the BMW/Mercedes Market. Those cars already have high end B&O systems, Bose, whatever you name it systems which are amazing, for most, Apple wouldn't really be a big difference or even a downgrade since it is not "elite".

I think Apple and VW would be a good pair just b/c of what is said directly below.

It makes perfect sense, VW owners are a culture, VW drivers don't go back to Toyota, Honda, Ford, GM... even though some offer more for the same price tag... you have to own a VDUB to understand... does it sound like Apple? :rolleyes:

I love my Golf! with my :apple: on the butt. Hot.
+1!

It is a culture, what other car company do you have gigantic meets of 500+ cars on a sunday afternoon just to eat chili and talk cars on a-spur-of-the-moment-plan-the-day-before event? Never heard of any honda, toyota, domestic, doing that. Even though my VW isn't the most reliable, it is fun to drive, comfortable, and just a solid car, never left me stranded ever and I have roadside assistance from VW if it ever does. The "VW is CRAP RELIABILITY" is not like it used to, the 90s plagued their company in their low QC but what other company was plagued by subdued performance in the 90s *cough cough*. We also don't have to worry about them leaving the US market, they have a solid footing here in the US, getting out of the market is old news.

The idea of the iCar is intriguing, in any case I'm interested to see what comes of it.Already all VW cars (yep ALL not just navi) are getting touch screens in the coming year, IMO that's way better that M$ sync's capabilities. OEM touch screen interface will be a nice addition. http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/odds_and_ends/2007/11/2/DB2007AU01003_medium.jpg

ClassicMac247
Dec 6, 2007, 04:03 PM
if i had the money i would buy an iCar:D

Steflinsky
Dec 6, 2007, 04:10 PM
Hello

I have a iCar since 5 years. I've got past 10 stickers of apple on My Car (french car ...you now...)... and boom that's work... :(

FadeToBlack
Dec 6, 2007, 04:50 PM
I love VW. I've loved them since I was a kid. My uncle had a yellow Beetle and I used to go out to the garage and sit in it all the time and wish that I had a license. :)

I was like 9 or so at the time. Now, 14 years or so later, I still haven't owned a VW. I was gonna get one when I was looking for a car the last time, but I got scared off by the talk of reliability issues. I ended up with my Elantra, which I love, but the next car I get, I will probably just take the plunge and get a VW. :cool:

If Apple and VW can do something cool together, then I'm all for it.

iSeBastian
Dec 6, 2007, 06:00 PM
How is Apple integrating Windows (:D)into the iCar?
Will there be a wireless GPS integrated? For google maps with GPS... that would be sweet ;)

JoeG4
Dec 6, 2007, 07:53 PM
That is the UGLIEST Nav radio I've ever seen.

shoobe01
Dec 6, 2007, 09:12 PM
BMW bravely went to the iDrive system that did allow eyes on the road control with a joystick that could be operated by touch and repetition once you memorized the sequences.

Many customers liked this, being interested in technology and all, but many did not and sales were lost and cars actually returned because it was just too complicated for some.

Complex? No. "Poorly designed," or "excessive cognitive burden" or maybe "crappy." People couldn't use controls that are easy to get to, like changing the radio station. Not anecdotal, there are studies around this.

Don't even get me started on "once you memorized the sequences."

No reason you cannot get electronic control systems for these additional features in a car well, though.

p8ntballguy
Dec 6, 2007, 10:08 PM
I guess no one other than me ever thought that a touchscreen appletv, that would sync with your computers when you pulled into your drive way would be AMAZING. Tack on interfaces gps and sat. radio, and you have the best mobile media center in world. I always wanted to put an appletv in my car.

I guess I just think different then.

kromekat
Dec 7, 2007, 04:10 AM
http://www.maclife.com/article/apple_hardware_prototypes_four_radical_new_concepts_revealed

PCMacUser
Dec 7, 2007, 07:15 AM
According to Wikipedia (which can be dubious), the Golf is the third biggest selling car in the world. I never realised that. Not so exotic after all huh?

Digitalclips
Dec 7, 2007, 07:32 AM
Well, it was called Golf until this model year. It seems that after years of marketing research they found that Americans aren't particularly fond of the sport. So they reached into their old "bag of tricks" (read: arse) and pulled out a Rabbit. Same car. We had and loved a 2000 Golf. Then a 2002 Jetta Wagon. I think its called something else in Italy, means idiot or child molester or something. Now a Rabbit. Again. Americans must like bunnies I guess.:rolleyes:

Side track from silly thread about car name but ... You state ... " Americans aren't particularly fond of the sport. " You have to by kidding right? I have lived in the USA for many years now and I can tell you, more play people Golf here than I ever saw in UK (and I lived close to Glen Eagles and St. Andrews!) Americans absolutely love golf!

walangij
Dec 7, 2007, 07:47 AM
Side track from silly thread about car name but ... You state ... " Americans aren't particularly fond of the sport. " You have to by kidding right? I have lived in the USA for many years now and I can tell you, more play people Golf here than I ever saw in UK (and I lived close to Glen Eagles and St. Andrews!) Americans absolutely love golf!

Americans do love golf, myself included. Golf isn't named after the sport, its named after the jet streams:

Golf - Gulf Stream
Passat - type of wind
Jetta - Jet Stream

Touareg - Tuareg nomadic tribe
Beetle - ??? lol

twoodcc
Dec 7, 2007, 08:08 AM
http://www.maclife.com/article/apple_hardware_prototypes_four_radical_new_concepts_revealed

too bad that's just something they made up

kromekat
Dec 7, 2007, 08:44 AM
too bad that's just something they made up

Yeah I know - I did it. ;)

twoodcc
Dec 7, 2007, 08:46 AM
Yeah I know - I did it. ;)

you mean you wrote that article and all?

kromekat
Dec 7, 2007, 08:50 AM
you mean you wrote that article and all?

No I designed and modeled/illustrated the products in the article :)

We discussed doing a VW as the iCar, but decided the Audi was far cooler ultimately - Just thought I'd throw it in the discussion.

Adam

twoodcc
Dec 7, 2007, 09:15 AM
No I designed and modeled/illustrated the products in the article :)

We discussed doing a VW as the iCar, but decided the Audi was far cooler ultimately - Just thought I'd throw it in the discussion.

Adam

oh ok. well you did a great job :)

ihope it comes true

mooncaine
Dec 7, 2007, 10:17 AM
I agree. Although my Beetle has been back to the dealer a few too many times.... i'd buy it again.

I've driven 2 Toyotas since 1996 -- I only sold the one because buying the 2nd would help an elderly aunt -- and I've never had to take either of them to a dealer. I do get my cars serviced on schedule, like it recommends in the manual, at a Toyota repair shop, but they have given me no trouble at all. The 96 remains sturdy and so is my 2000.

Steven Ballmer
Dec 9, 2007, 09:43 PM
Thing didnt even have a steering wheel, it was voice controlled. If the "driver would cough or sneeze the car would lose control and crash!

John Musbach
Dec 15, 2007, 03:57 PM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)

In August, a rumor (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/08/29/volkswagen-apple-working-on-icar/) circulated that Apple and Volkswagen were in early meetings to work on incorporating Apple products into Volkswagen compact cars. The most recent reports, coming from PressPortal.de (http://www.presseportal.de/pm/8185/1097327/capital_g_j_wirtschaftspresse/rss) indicate that the project is "shaky" but that Apple has been in talks with other car manufacturers.

Translation via Jalopnik (http://jalopnik.com/cars/news/vw-apple-icar-talks-on-hold-330531.php):


Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/12/06/volkswagen-and-apple-icar-project-on-hold/)

I would much rather have a Mac OS (and thus Unix) powered car then a Microsoft powered car, so please if any car makers are thinking of controlling part of the car with a operating system dependent application please consider negotiating with Apple. I have already seen ads for one car that has some kind of Microsoft Sync feature and I can only hope that that is as deep as the Microsoft control goes as the day when my car looses control due to a BSOD would not be a happy one for me...

Hooka
Jan 14, 2008, 07:41 AM
at least its better then a getting a stupid guitar when you buy a car.

Maldini
Jan 14, 2008, 01:49 PM
Apple will not work with VW for the iCar because they are not an exclusive brand...they are now considering Austin Martin :D

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Domofloge
Jan 14, 2008, 02:53 PM
Why Volkswagen? They're terribly unreliable of late (source: Consumer Reports). Of course, now that I think about it, that makes sense...

Thats a good one...??
Ok. If you really believe that statement then why do you own so many apple products? Is there something recently that has swayed your opinion?

Just wondering...

Chisholm
May 11, 2008, 01:44 PM
Side track from silly thread about car name but ... You state ... " Americans aren't particularly fond of the sport. " You have to by kidding right? I have lived in the USA for many years now and I can tell you, more play people Golf here than I ever saw in UK (and I lived close to Glen Eagles and St. Andrews!) Americans absolutely love golf!

"Well, it was called Golf until this model year. It seems that after years of marketing research they found that Americans aren't particularly fond of the sport."

It was a joke man. I have a dry sense of humor I guess. I mean, who would do years of marketing research to determine Americans' feelings about a sport?