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cornopaez
Dec 9, 2007, 12:26 PM
I don't want to sound like a fanboy :eek:, but with the exception of a few glitches here and there before 10.5.1, Leopard does the job quite nicely. I have to admit that I don't do any complex stuff in my MB; the most computing demanding program I have is Finale 2006 (just cause it runs on Rosetta, still.)

How about you?



RoboCop001
Dec 9, 2007, 12:28 PM
My Leopard is working fine too. So is my year-old MacBook Pro. :)

davidwarren
Dec 9, 2007, 12:31 PM
works fine here!

iBunny
Dec 9, 2007, 12:31 PM
Leopard is good over here too; however, I have witnessed on every Mac with Leopard that Secure Empty Trash freezes with alot of files, and does not complete. This is the only minor issue.

But <3 Leopard. ITs much faster on my Machine than Tiger was.

QuarterSwede
Dec 9, 2007, 12:32 PM
Smooth for me on a 12" PB. I quite like it actually. There are a few things I wish they'd fix (Stacks, Time Machine sluggishness) but for the most part I'm happy with it.

djellison
Dec 9, 2007, 12:52 PM
Safari crashes quite often ( usually one or twice a day ) and is a lot slower than Firefox ( if Firefox and Quicktime would get on better, I'd drop Safari in a second ).

It's taken me a month to get networking working.

I don't use spaces, I don't trust time machine, I don't like stacks, my keyboard freezes, and I've got the dock set to be like Tiger was.

I'm starting to wonder what the point in Leopard is - if I could easily go back to Tiger - I would.

It's 'OK' - but it's not great and certainly not an improvement. I'm actually delaying buying an MBP because I want to see Leopard get to a ..2 or ..3 release before giving Apple £1600. My Macbook will do fine for now.

This is all just my experience of it. Others are loving it and I'm not going to disagree with them - I just don't get the same experience they do.

Doug

Quillz
Dec 9, 2007, 12:53 PM
Leopard has been working fine for me since the developer builds of WWDC.

Hmac
Dec 9, 2007, 01:08 PM
Works fine for us on four Macs (two MBP, one MB, one Mac Pro). No crashes, no keyboard problems, no Safari crashes (although two of the machines use FireFox). I haven't put it on my wife's G4 Powerbook because she doesn't care and it works fine for her needs using Tiger.

Leopard isn't the holy grail - I don't know what the "300 new features" could be but I doubt that any of us are using many of them - but for us Leopard been as reliable and stable as one would expect an OS to be. Certainly several notches above Windows XP, which I use at work, and on two of our Macs (one via Parallels and one via Boot Camp).

Big-TDI-Guy
Dec 9, 2007, 01:20 PM
I'm moving back to Tiger right now, actually.

Leopard has not worked for me.

Tiger now whoops it's @$$ speed-wise. (fresh install vs fresh install)

Go figure.

HLdan
Dec 9, 2007, 01:20 PM
Leopard's awesome for me 2!! To the OP: You are not being a fanboy (hate that word) just because you are happy with Leopard and your Mac. Some of the posters that have issues get mad when people like us state that everything works great on our Macs because misery loves company and they would rather you have issues like they do.
Great to see things are working good for you. :)

fistful
Dec 9, 2007, 01:26 PM
Installed Leopard on Friday, so far so good.

Only problem I had was with Airport Utility not detecting my ABS (Snow). Copied Airport Admin Utility over from my Tiger image and now all is sorted. Haven't bothered with Spaces or Time Machine yet.

Oh right, I thought Leopard was supposed to add two finger click to the trackpad on PowerBooks but I don't see the option.

cornopaez
Dec 9, 2007, 01:34 PM
Leopard's awesome for me 2!! To the OP: You are not being a fanboy (hate that word) just because you are happy with Leopard and your Mac. Some of the posters that have issues get mad when people like us state that everything works great on our Macs because misery loves company and they would rather you have issues like they do.
Great to see things are working good for you. :)

I've read plenty of threads here about complains and I was kind of tired of it (not complaining about the threads, thou. Most of them are about troubleshooting and that's what these forums are for :rolleyes:). I just wanted to know if there was really people who like Leopard so far with their every day chores and what not...

Keep your opinions coming!

P.S.: I hate that word too :D

ntrigue
Dec 9, 2007, 01:47 PM
Fantastic operating system on 2.33 C2D - I am 100% satisfied. My friend is having external firewire problems on his 'media center mini' but all 3 other Apple's are working great!

Alloye
Dec 9, 2007, 01:47 PM
What can I say? Leopard rocks!

giganten
Dec 9, 2007, 02:02 PM
Works fine here too, but I did install it yesterday. :D

match311
Dec 9, 2007, 02:08 PM
No complaints really from me. The only thing i did not like was the color of the 3-D dock, but I have had fun messing with it and tweaking it with freeware and downloads.

MacsRgr8
Dec 9, 2007, 02:22 PM
How about you?

p-p-p-perfect. :)

mrwizardno2
Dec 9, 2007, 02:28 PM
Overall, Leopard is great. Every now and then I have issues with SMB mounts. It's like leopard forgets they're mounted, then I can't mount or unmount them without a reboot. It's strange.

Oh, and the bluetooth lockup problem is still there, too. BT DUN > Cellphone, then put the computer to sleep and try to wake it back up... it never comes back.

Leopard is great, though!

GoodWatch
Dec 9, 2007, 02:31 PM
Apart from my AirDisk vanishing after each reboot, it's fine.

tersono
Dec 9, 2007, 02:32 PM
Leopard works just fine for me, too (3 machines) and I use two of those machines _very_ heavily (XCode, Adobe Creative Suite, VMWare Fusion and a handful of other apps).

It has to be said that Leopard has been by far the smoothest OS upgrade I've ever done - had no issues at all apart from an active directory binding problem pre 10.5.1 (and that wasn't hard to work around).

psychofreak
Dec 9, 2007, 02:34 PM
Great for me, I just wish Candybar could customise the side dock, and repairing disk permissions worked...

netdog
Dec 9, 2007, 02:43 PM
Other than Time Machine not supporting AirDrives, Leopard works beautifully for me.

Taylor C
Dec 9, 2007, 03:02 PM
Leopard's new features work great, but it (like any new OS) is prone to early stability issues that come with being a less mature product. At the end of its reign, Tiger was over two years old. Tiger is completely rock-solid. Leopard is close, and will get there with time.

leodavinci0
Dec 9, 2007, 04:00 PM
Leopard is running much better for me than I thought it would on my 867 MHz 12" PB with 640 MB RAM and 100 GB HDD. Spotlight takes a couple seconds to load my search and coverflow takes a couple seconds to load previews, but otherwise only small headaches (e.g. locked up during install while installing some printer drivers, epson I think). I haven't tried Time Machine yet, and iTunes, as well as Finder have quit on me a couple times, but no total system crashes. I did do a clean install, btw.

edit: Actually another headache was that Panther synced and connected to the internet just fine with my Motorola V262, while Leopard didn't recognize it when I plugged it in. I played hell figuring out how to get it to work, but now that it does it works well.

crisuno
Dec 9, 2007, 04:23 PM
It works cool for me so far, but the only thing I've noticed is that it seems like it's slower getting online now, Tiger was faster to me.......

Any help???

I checked my network, and it says that it's workin fine.......

so.........

Cris.

MacinDoc
Dec 9, 2007, 04:42 PM
Aside from having to restart my AE to get it to see the attached printer, I have had no problems. Oh, and I had to update my ancient copy of Print Shop (just the free updater, not the new version).

HLdan
Dec 9, 2007, 04:55 PM
See, there are a lot of people very happy but these are the people (myself included) that don't make the effort to post their great experiences so what's left? Well what's left are the small amount of complainers that make it seem like it's the majority that's having problems and it ain't so.;)

jonkemerer
Dec 9, 2007, 04:56 PM
Everything works good to great, EXCEPT finder.

Leopard's touted new Coverflow feature in Finder leaves me scratching my head here. On my Mini it's useless, there's a 2-3 second delay to render the image every time you select a file. Also, to make it worse, Coverflow isn't caching the thumbnails so every time I restart Finder has to re-render every image, taking minutes sometimes. Ugh... To add salt to the wound, why isn't Finder rendering all the files in the folder, in the background? It's waiting for me to venture into that area of the folder before it starts rendering.

Also, you still can't Shift-select contiguous files in icon view.

Finder is just bearable in OS X. I know Apple made some big improvements, having used Tiger for over a year I see it. But not enough IMHO.

I like the new sidebar though, everything's there that I need. Looks nicer too :)

Overall I'm kinda sitting on the fence with Leopard. It wasn't as huge a leap as I thought it was going to be. That's just my opinion though...

nsbio
Dec 9, 2007, 05:09 PM
Overall, Leopard works better on my G4 1.5Ghz 15'' PB.

A couple of quirks are moderately annoying. First, finder and spotlight crash every couple of days or so (no system-wide crashes, just self-relaunching of these applications).

Second, Word 2004 crashed on me twice in two weeks. This time, it is not Microsoft's fault because I had had just as many Word crashes in about a year and a half when the same PB was running 10.3.9.

Third, Spotlight refuses to search any new mail until I force-refresh indexing of ~library/mail directory.

Again, overall it is a good upgrade. Spotlight works much better that that in Tiger. Tiger's spotlight is shamefully bad in comparison.

Networking seems to work much, much better in Leopard, to the point that it has actually become useable.

psychofreak
Dec 9, 2007, 05:12 PM
Finder is just bearable in OS X. I know Apple made some big improvements, having used Tiger for over a year I see it. But not enough IMHO.


If you're looking for an alternative, I recommend Leap (http://www.yepthat.com/leap/index.html) :)

jonkemerer
Dec 9, 2007, 05:17 PM
If you're looking for an alternative, I recommend Leap (http://www.yepthat.com/leap/index.html) :)

I wasn't, didn't know there was one! But now I am, thanks for the heads up.

Downloading now.

cornopaez
Dec 9, 2007, 05:33 PM
See, there are a lot of people very happy but these are the people (myself included) that don't make the effort to post their great experiences so what's left? Well what's left are the small amount of complainers that make it seem like it's the majority that's having problems and it ain't so.;)

If I'm not wrong, I read a thread this morning where you said that one of the things left to do was to make a thread about the good things of Leopard... (although, it's turning slowly into a complaint one [GASP!!! :p]

Here's a gift for you: Happy Christmas! :D

djellison
Dec 9, 2007, 05:51 PM
My previous post was probably too negative. I have a couple of issues and if they didn't exist, then I would be Leopard ambivalent. Take it or leave it - none of the 300 new features impress me a great deal. It's not crap, it's not dreadful - but I can't see any improvements over Tiger that make me more productive or my laptop more reliable.

Doug

Benjamindaines
Dec 9, 2007, 05:55 PM
Works fine for me. The only exception being the Dock and stacks not being smooth. Also when watching videos (or something else that the graphics card has to redraw the screen a lot) the bottom area of the screen it jittery while dragging windows.

Sdahe
Dec 9, 2007, 09:35 PM
I had Leopard for some time in my MBP and a few days ago got the Tiger back to the system. It was nice and all but I think I'll wait for a good UPDATE for Leopard before going back.

Now with Tiger I have a smooth dock animation and everything runs very fast. Maybe some day I'll get back to Leopard again.

GavinT
Dec 10, 2007, 05:01 AM
Installed Leopard on Saturday. Clean install, after cloning my Tiger setup. Didn't get a chance to do much apart from reinstall my EyeTV software.
Sunday was spent migrating across my user and my wife's user from the Tiger clone. Then reinstalled some of my apps (didn't bother with ones I don't use much, and those which don't have Leopard compatible versions yet).

So far, it's all good. :D
My wife has a day off today, so I guess she'll be using the machine a bit today.

The 3D dock doesn't bother me at all (it's usually hidden anyway).
Stacks haven't bothered me yet, but that's because I only have the Downloads folder in the Dock.
Spotlight ROCKS compared to the Tiger version... really quick to start up those apps which I don't have a shortcut for in the Dock.
Spaces ROCKS. Very useful when installing all my apps again (one space for Finder windows, one space for Pages which had my document with all my keys and notes in, and one space for Safari when digging around to make sure I had up to date DMGs for all my installs).
Those little animations and everything seem smooth enough to me, no real change. (I'm on a generation 1 MBP 17inch, purchased in July 2006.... not true 64bit I believe :( )

I've not yet tested Time Machine yet (not set up yet). I need to check how that works with regards to having many users. Do you set up TM once, as an admin for all users (so my account, my wife's and also the Shared folder)... or does it need to be done separately. If the later, can each account's Time Machine exist on the same partition.

I need to have a play around with XCode now. That's for the Saturday when the missus is working (get to spend some 'my time').

EDIT: Wish I hadn't spent money on CandyBar2 now. See no need to have CandyBar3 to be honest... if there are any specific folders I create, I may wish to change the icon the manual way... but I'm quite happy with the standard look and feel to be honest. (In Tiger I was never really happy with the standard Look and Feel even in Graphite... which is why I used CandyBar2)

thesdx
Dec 10, 2007, 07:15 AM
Leopard's working great over here. When I first installed it (archive & install), the animation was sluggish, apps crashed frequently, and the whole system was really laggard. Since 10.5.1, everything is running as fast, if not faster, than Tiger.

iBecks
Dec 10, 2007, 07:21 AM
Problems with airport since installation, have to resort to rebooting at times.

Strongly considering going back to Tiger.

akadmon
Dec 10, 2007, 08:04 AM
Aside from my wireless Logitech mouse being sluggish/skipping (even after updating the driver to 10.5 compatible), no real issues. Overall, however, I would say that if you're happy with Tiger upgrading to Leopard is a bit of a money waster. No real "can't live without it" features, not much to even get excited about, really. Leopard does seem a little faster, but then Tiger was no slouch on my Mac Pro. Alas, most of us are suckers for the "latest/greatest" :D

iBecks
Dec 10, 2007, 08:13 AM
Aside from my wireless Logitech mouse being sluggish/skipping (even after updating the driver to 10.5 compatible), no real issues. Overall, however, I would say that if you're happy with Tiger upgrading to Leopard is a bit of a money waster. No real "can't live without it" features, not much to even get excited about, really. Leopard does seem a little faster, but then Tiger was no slouch on my Mac Pro. Alas, most of us are suckers for the "latest/greatest" :D

It was wanting the latest/greatest that sucked me into Leopard, next time i'll wait... who am I kidding? :cool:

madofrain
Dec 10, 2007, 09:00 AM
Well, I tried an install over tiger intially, i'd been running that install for about 6 months and the leopard install was sluggish to say the least. So I backed up my mission critical data and ran a fresh erase and install.
Job's a goodun. Now runs great.
No probs with 3rd party aps so far apart from my dodgy version of photoshop cs3, but cant' complain about that.
So yup, enjoying it so far.

LaJaca
Dec 10, 2007, 09:18 AM
Works great for me; looking forward to .2, .3, .4 etc - more customization would be a dandy.

Kashchei
Dec 10, 2007, 09:29 AM
Give me 10.4.11 with Time Machine and Quick Look and I'd be happy. There are too many niggling problems that make Leopard seem not ready for primetime

redshift20
Dec 10, 2007, 11:58 AM
In general, Leopard has worked very well for me. I found out the hard way that Time Machine can be a little squirrelly if you cancel the initial backup. I have a usb memory stick that seems to lock up the finder at times. Other than that, the most problems I've had has been with Parallels shutting down properly.

For the most part, I'd say it's been good.