where are the ipod refurbs?

[macpluslaptop]

There don't seem to be any new ipod refurbs (no Touches, Classics, Nanos etc.). How many months does it take for those to show up at the Apple Store?
Thanks for any speculative assistance.

[heatmiser]

They're going to try to get rid of as many 5gens as possible before they start offering the newer stuff.