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G4R2
Dec 14, 2007, 08:56 AM
According to Gizmodo, yesterday's Garageband update has a new "Share > Send Ringtone to iTunes" feature that has been long predicted:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=307108


I'm at work unfortunately and can't test this out. Does anyone know if this really does work?



redgaz26
Dec 14, 2007, 10:19 AM
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Good news for us mac owners. Although it was pretty easy to do it before the updste They can't be making much on the official ringtones from iTunes.

jjprusk
Dec 14, 2007, 11:48 AM
Just tried this and it works as advertised. Its nice to be able to construct a ringtone by picking pieces of a song and simply "sending" to iTunes. Upon next sync, the ringtone is available to use as a ringtone. Simple and easy.

teiresias
Dec 14, 2007, 11:54 AM
This basically automates what I was doing before in Garageband, but I have a question.

Does anyone know how to "normalize" custom ringtone volumes with the rest of the sounds on the iPhone? Some of my custom ringtones are ALOT louder than the rest of the phone's sounds and I can't find a way in Garageband to actually get my exported ringtone to be softer - even if I adjust the dB in the individual imported track or in the whole project.

lofight
Dec 14, 2007, 11:54 AM
yeah i saw this too on Engadget, pretty cool if you ask me..

DotComCTO
Dec 14, 2007, 12:23 PM
I found this by accident just now. I was just about to post that I found this and I see a thread has already been started. I've been working on two new ringtones for myself. I did one yesterday and that feature wasn't there, and I was working on the second one today and...MAGIC! That's VERY cool and I'm so happy that Apple has heard our outcry over this.

Thank you Apple!

:D

--DotComCTO

P.S. My two new ringtones are the theme from Super Mario Bros (I didn't like any of the ones I've heard out there), and the background music from Super Mario World (Yoshi). Both of my ringtones rock...in a super dorky way...and I've set the looping region so that it loops seamlessly.

r6girl
Dec 14, 2007, 12:54 PM
i'm pleasantly surprised by this! i'd thought the reason that apple wasn't endorsing this before was because they didn't want to get entangled in copyright issues with the music industry. i guess requiring the use of garageband somehow gets around this, or at least distances apple from risk enough for them to be okay with it...

Markleshark
Dec 14, 2007, 01:06 PM
I don't own an iPhone, but thank god.

Thats 1 of the pretty basic features out of the way... Next...!

coumerelli
Dec 14, 2007, 01:07 PM
Am I reading something wrong? The title on the Front Page is "GarageTunes. When did apple release GarageTunes? Arn? Are you OK? :p

arn
Dec 14, 2007, 01:08 PM
Am I reading something wrong? The title on the Front Page is "GarageTunes. When did apple release GarageTunes? Arn? Are you OK? :p

um. momentary lapse. fixed.

arn

thomasfxlt
Dec 14, 2007, 01:10 PM
All the more reason for people to own an iMac:)

Analog Kid
Dec 14, 2007, 01:12 PM
This has been such an obvious "synergy" I can't believe it took this long. I'd just about given up on the possibility-- I'm glad they finally did it! Woohoo!

lazyrighteye
Dec 14, 2007, 01:13 PM
While it seemed inevitable, I'm still pleasantly surprised.
This is a nice bit of news heading into the weekend.

Now if we can just get Disk Mode support on iPhones... :p

p0intblank
Dec 14, 2007, 01:13 PM
Well this was unexpected! I can definitely see myself utilizing this. :D Thank you, Apple!

carlitofox
Dec 14, 2007, 01:13 PM
in theroy correct me if i'm wrong (like i had to write that ) but due to their being no copyright as such on home created garageband ringtones could this lead to a upload/podcast type of thing for itunes where people upload there created ringtones and other people can download them ????

that would be cool.

guzhogi
Dec 14, 2007, 01:17 PM
Yay! I'm so excited! :) I have quite a few songs on CDs I'd like to make into ringtones, but don't want to pay $1.98 to get it from the store (or even worse $9.99 for songs that are sold only with the entire album & not by themselves). I would've been content if iTunes checked which CDs you imported and checked to see if those were on the store and just pay 99¢ to make ringtones w/o also having to get the whole song, too.

CBJammin103
Dec 14, 2007, 01:21 PM
What about for those of us that aren't on the very latest iLife? Not getting any ringtone support...?
:(

Markleshark
Dec 14, 2007, 01:22 PM
What about for those of us that aren't on the very latest iLife? Not getting any ringtone support...?
:(

You can't please all of the people all of the time. You'll want blood next I suppose.

calpundit
Dec 14, 2007, 01:28 PM
If you read the Apple info doc, it says this at the top (emphasis added):

"With GarageBand 4.1.1 you can export your original song, your original audio recordings, or use Apple Loops and iLife jingles to create a custom ringtone for your iPhone."

Apparently, from the reports on this site, it also works for non-original songs.

I think the wording of the preamble is Apple's answer to the music industry's predictable howls about copyright infringement.

BWhaler
Dec 14, 2007, 01:36 PM
I just don't get Apple nowadays.

Either this was poorly planned releasing this feature after tons of bad will was built-up in the base and the youger folks.

Or, this was their plan all along, and Apple care more about the media companies than us.

I have a buddy who is a senior guy at MSFT, and years ago he said that MSFT could care less about me and the "guys who walk into Best Buy." What they cared about were the networks and content providers.

Apple took a different approach, and the rest is history. I just hope Apple doesn't forget what got them to where they are today.

Either way, this feature addition is a good thing.

Clive At Five
Dec 14, 2007, 01:38 PM
Woohoo!

...not that I have an iPhone... but "woohoo" anyway.

-Clive

Yankees 4 Life
Dec 14, 2007, 01:39 PM
just tried it out on my work computer... works like a charm!

Eduardo1971
Dec 14, 2007, 01:43 PM
...P.S. My two new ringtones are the theme from Super Mario Bros (I didn't like any of the ones I've heard out there), and the background music from Super Mario World (Yoshi). Both of my ringtones rock...in a super dorky way...and I've set the looping region so that it loops seamlessly.

WoW! What is it like being a geek?!:p:D

walnuts
Dec 14, 2007, 01:45 PM
If you read the Apple info doc, it says this at the top (emphasis added):

"With GarageBand 4.1.1 you can export your original song, your original audio recordings, or use Apple Loops and iLife jingles to create a custom ringtone for your iPhone."

Apparently, from the reports on this site, it also works for non-original songs.

I think the wording of the preamble is Apple's answer to the music industry's predictable howls about copyright infringement.

...or a quick update will "fix" the "problem" with Garageband and limit only to original recordings.

Dagless
Dec 14, 2007, 01:46 PM
This is more like it!

Great how iPhone functionality is unlocked later. Next up, video recording support.

Can't wait for my iPhone now :)

macguitarman
Dec 14, 2007, 01:47 PM
Just tried it, as has been said, works great, But

This seems to be a low level ringtone file, (128 Kbps), the transcoding seems to change the EQ of the file.

I know since I do pro recording, acoustic guitar, and the guitar tracks I selected now have a very weird and irritating mid range EQ boost, enough for me to know the tone of the guitar has changed.

What may be going on, any ideas. And, EQ / Sound Enhancer is turned off in iTunes. But definitely a difference in original and this ringtone.

I'll bet this does not happen using iToner.

later,
mgm

jessica.
Dec 14, 2007, 01:50 PM
I take it this is only with the most recent version of GB? I never went to iLife 08. Can you share ringtones?

AliensAreFuzzy
Dec 14, 2007, 01:55 PM
This is basically what I was doing already for one of my friends. I had her trim the song in Garageband and then do the .m4r extension change.

ricosuave
Dec 14, 2007, 01:56 PM
For the life in me I could not get the ringer to work since yesterday. I would create it in the updated GarageBand, export it to iTunes and sync it to my iPhone. It would show up in my iPhone, I would choose the song track as the ringer. Call myself from the land line and..... the default Marimba would ring.

Until finally I went into my own number within contacts and sure enough it was set for Marimba and not the default ringer. This must have happened during the iToner trial days. :o

But now problem fixed and am enjoying custom ringtones!:p

Mr. Zorg
Dec 14, 2007, 01:57 PM
P.S. My two new ringtones are the theme from Super Mario Bros (I didn't like any of the ones I've heard out there), and the background music from Super Mario World (Yoshi). Both of my ringtones rock...in a super dorky way...and I've set the looping region so that it loops seamlessly.
Hey, me too! But I've also got the Star Wars Imperial March on there...

Pandaboots
Dec 14, 2007, 02:03 PM
What about for those of us that aren't on the very latest iLife? Not getting any ringtone support...?
:(

Welcome to Apple, Inc. They are a business. One of their many goals each day is to make a profit, which in turn leads to paying employees a salary in which to make a living. Allowing one to use old software and giving free updates doesn't turn a profit. Ok seriously, go out and spend $69.99 on Amazon for iLife '08. It's the biggest bargain of the century. And put down that $2 cup of Starbucks before you say you can't afford it. :D

mikes63737
Dec 14, 2007, 02:06 PM
i'm pleasantly surprised by this! i'd thought the reason that apple wasn't endorsing this before was because they didn't want to get entangled in copyright issues with the music industry. i guess requiring the use of garageband somehow gets around this, or at least distances apple from risk enough for them to be okay with it...

GarageBand doesn't import MP3 files. Most people don't know how to get around that, which means that people can't use "their illegal music".

Also, it doesn't import iTunes protected AAC files, which means that if it's from the iTMS you have to pay still.

So... the average consumer can't make ringtones out of others' songs.

DotComCTO
Dec 14, 2007, 02:08 PM
WoW! What is it like being a geek?!:p:D

Well...at least I realize the incredible dorkiness of those ringtones, right? Isn't the first step admitting it?

:D

--DotComCTO

Hey, me too! But I've also got the Star Wars Imperial March on there...

(...in Darth Vader voice...)

Impressive.

:D

--DotComCTO

Bernie-Mac
Dec 14, 2007, 02:09 PM
I take it this is only with the most recent version of GB? I never went to iLife 08. Can you share ringtones?

cant you just download the garageband update from apple?

r6girl
Dec 14, 2007, 02:10 PM
GarageBand doesn't import MP3 files. Most people don't know how to get around that, which means that people can't use "their illegal music".



according to ilounge's tutorial (http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/ten-step-guide-to-iphone-custom-ringtones-in-garageband-08/), you CAN import unprotected mp3 files as long as they are in your itunes music folder...

grappler
Dec 14, 2007, 02:10 PM
This is nice and all, but why can't I do that in iTunes?

This should be a blacklist thing, instead of a whitelist one. If a copyright holder wishes for the user to not use a song as a ringtone, they should sell the song with DRM and a flag that prevents ringtone creation.

And then I can note that fact in their online store and not buy that song.

The default should be to allow ringtones to be generated for a song.

DotComCTO
Dec 14, 2007, 02:11 PM
GarageBand doesn't import MP3 files. Most people don't know how to get around that, which means that people can't use "their illegal music".

You sure about that? I'm pretty sure I just dragged and dropped the MP3 file of my desired ringtone into a GB track. Then I edited, set up the loop and created a ringtone.

I'm pretty sure I initially created an MP3 file and used that as my source.

:confused:

--DotComCTO

Thornie
Dec 14, 2007, 02:18 PM
You sure about that? I'm pretty sure I just dragged and dropped the MP3 file of my desired ringtone into a GB track. Then I edited, set up the loop and created a ringtone.

I'm pretty sure I initially created an MP3 file and used that as my source.

:confused:

--DotComCTO

Just did the same thing. I have always drag and dropped mp3s into GB.

jholzner
Dec 14, 2007, 02:23 PM
GarageBand doesn't import MP3 files. Most people don't know how to get around that, which means that people can't use "their illegal music".

Also, it doesn't import iTunes protected AAC files, which means that if it's from the iTMS you have to pay still.


Well, a lot of music on the iTunes store now has no DRM so I'm assuming those would work just fin.

CBJammin103
Dec 14, 2007, 02:27 PM
You can't please all of the people all of the time. You'll want blood next I suppose.

Good lord. I don't think I'm asking for much, the latest iLife hasn't been out for very long yet and this is a relatively small change to the software that could most easily be implemented into older versions. Sheesh.

Welcome to Apple, Inc. They are a business. One of their many goals each day is to make a profit, which in turn leads to paying employees a salary in which to make a living. Allowing one to use old software and giving free updates doesn't turn a profit. Ok seriously, go out and spend $69.99 on Amazon for iLife '08. It's the biggest bargain of the century. And put down that $2 cup of Starbucks before you say you can't afford it.

Well, I was holding off on the iLife update... it's not that I absolutely can't afford it - not that I drink Starbucks anyway :p - but it's that I couldn't justify the $70 for what seems to be a marginal update at best, for me. I don't have a video camera so I wouldn't use the new iMovie and I don't see a $70 change in iPhoto. At least for a most casual photographer. And I definitely won't use iWeb, not much appeal in cookie-cutter website creation for me.

So it's not that I don't like iLife, it's that I didn't really need the upgrade and could have spent that money better. Like on Leopard...

Ah well, guess I'll have to give it a second thought at some point.

phytonix
Dec 14, 2007, 02:28 PM
What can Windows user do?
Switch to Mac?

freeny
Dec 14, 2007, 02:28 PM
WoW! What is it like being a geek?!:p:D

Now that is just uncalled for. :rolleyes:

akm3
Dec 14, 2007, 02:28 PM
What about for those of us that aren't on the very latest iLife? Not getting any ringtone support...?
:(

(Or...gasp... Windows users!!)

What another nice way to get a iPhone person who doesn't have a Mac to try one :)

daddywags214
Dec 14, 2007, 02:32 PM
Now that is just uncalled for. :rolleyes:

There certainly aren't any geeks here! :-)

carlitofox
Dec 14, 2007, 02:33 PM
I just don't get Apple nowadays.

Either this was poorly planned releasing this feature after tons of bad will was built-up in the base and the youger folks.

Or, this was their plan all along, and Apple care more about the media companies than us.

I have a buddy who is a senior guy at MSFT, and years ago he said that MSFT could care less about me and the "guys who walk into Best Buy." What they cared about were the networks and content providers.

Apple took a different approach, and the rest is history. I just hope Apple doesn't forget what got them to where they are today.

Either way, this feature addition is a good thing.


i think this will justify anouther iphone update and knock all unlocked xmas phones out Apple are being very very clever with it all

they are there to make money the difference being that we don't mind them making it

they have a plan for everything !!!!!!

stompy
Dec 14, 2007, 02:39 PM
I just don't get Apple nowadays.

Either this was poorly planned releasing this feature after tons of bad will was built-up in the base and the youger folks.

Or, this was their plan all along, and Apple care more about the media companies than us. ...

Either way, this feature addition is a good thing.

I don't know how often this point is mentioned, but during Steve's iPhone / iTunes demo at MWSF 2007, there was a "Ringtones" tab in iTunes--not demoed. This tab was missing at iPhone launch 6 months later. Something changed (or wasn't resolved) close enough to MWSF that the UI showed an un-demoable feature; it didn't re-appear until 7.4 in September.

Lots of people here have used ringtones as proof of Apple greed (and now it might turn into "w00t, we forced Apple to make it right!"), but if labels and Apple disagreed about ringtones pricing, what sane path could Apple take? I'm with calpundit on this one

If you read the Apple info doc, it says this at the top (emphasis added):

"With GarageBand 4.1.1 you can export your original song, your original audio recordings, or use Apple Loops and iLife jingles to create a custom ringtone for your iPhone." ...

I think the wording of the preamble is Apple's answer to the music industry's predictable howls about copyright infringement.

ortuno2k
Dec 14, 2007, 02:41 PM
This wasn't impossible to accomplish prior to this update, but there were a myriad of steps involved, including importing the song to GarageTune, clipping the section you wanted, exporting to iTunes, converting to AAC, opening it in the finder, renaming it to m4r and then finally importing it again to iTunes.
I've successfully accomplished this to create a custom ringtone following these steps.

This update, however, adds big thumbs up to make this easier. I have yet to try it, but I'm sure it will work fine.
Cool! :)

Cleverboy
Dec 14, 2007, 02:43 PM
I just don't get Apple nowadays.

Either this was poorly planned releasing this feature after tons of bad will was built-up in the base and the youger folks.

Or, this was their plan all along, and Apple care more about the media companies than us.

I have a buddy who is a senior guy at MSFT, and years ago he said that MSFT could care less about me and the "guys who walk into Best Buy." What they cared about were the networks and content providers.

Apple took a different approach, and the rest is history. I just hope Apple doesn't forget what got them to where they are today.

Either way, this feature addition is a good thing.
It's funny. I think they really had "timing" at the heart of what they were doing. They wanted to release their ringtone solution (late), and then they wanted to release their Garageband solution (later). All it took was one over-worked programming team to overlook the natural progression of management strategies aadpting to an organic and ambitious development schedule... thereby leaving something in... and one person to go... "Oh, hey... what's this piece of string hanging out?", and suddenly... world of hurt. Now? Launches have been made, features debuted. They can only race third party solutions when they block the feature to begin with. If the loose string hadn't been found, few people would have made such a fuss. That's my conclusion.

~ CB

carlitofox
Dec 14, 2007, 02:46 PM
Originally Posted by calpundit
If you read the Apple info doc, it says this at the top (emphasis added):

"With GarageBand 4.1.1 you can export your original song, your original audio recordings, or use Apple Loops and iLife jingles to create a custom ringtone for your iPhone." ...

I think the wording of the preamble is Apple's answer to the music industry's predictable howls about copyright infringeme

i think that it all has to do with defered responsabilty or what ever its called.

Apple give you the software to legally rip music you have brought but if you rip music that your friend brought technacly aren't you stealing music ?????

so you can put a origanl creation on no problems but if you you do something your not ment to it's not their fault

deputy_doofy
Dec 14, 2007, 02:52 PM
Look out! Deputy Doofy tunes on the iPhone. :p

TurboSC
Dec 14, 2007, 02:55 PM
MacWorld needs to get here so i can use all these nifty mac tools for my iPhone :(

ImNoSuperMan
Dec 14, 2007, 02:57 PM
Great news. Time to run Garage band for the first time in my life:D:D

michelleeris
Dec 14, 2007, 02:58 PM
GarageBand doesn't import MP3 files. Most people don't know how to get around that, which means that people can't use "their illegal music".

Also, it doesn't import iTunes protected AAC files, which means that if it's from the iTMS you have to pay still.

So... the average consumer can't make ringtones out of others' songs.

Actually, Garage Band does import MP3 files. All you need to do is drag the file from the Finder (or from iTunes) into a Garage Band project window.

michelleeris
Dec 14, 2007, 03:02 PM
according to ilounge's tutorial (http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/ten-step-guide-to-iphone-custom-ringtones-in-garageband-08/), you CAN import unprotected mp3 files as long as they are in your itunes music folder...

They can be anywhere on your disk. They do not have to be in any particular folder.

Consultant
Dec 14, 2007, 03:02 PM
GarageBand doesn't import MP3 files. Most people don't know how to get around that, which means that people can't use "their illegal music".

Also, it doesn't import iTunes protected AAC files, which means that if it's from the iTMS you have to pay still.

So... the average consumer can't make ringtones out of others' songs.

For protected AAC that you own:

iTunes -> burn AAC to CDRW (yes RW so you can re-use it!), drag file to your hd, drag file from hd to GarageBand

deputy_doofy
Dec 14, 2007, 03:02 PM
GarageBand doesn't import MP3 files. Most people don't know how to get around that, which means that people can't use "their illegal music".

Also, it doesn't import iTunes protected AAC files, which means that if it's from the iTMS you have to pay still.

So... the average consumer can't make ringtones out of others' songs.


While I'm not sure about protected AAC files, you are incorrect about MP3 files. You can import MP3 files into Garageband. Wav and aiff files can usually be imported as well (yes, there are occasions where they may not work correctly and have to be "exported" with the proper settings by another sound program first).

crackermac
Dec 14, 2007, 03:04 PM
And put down that $2 cup of Starbucks before you say you can't afford it. :D

Wow, Starbucks for $2. I need to find that one. $4.50+ is more like it.

What about the DRM-free stuff from iTMS?

michelleeris
Dec 14, 2007, 03:08 PM
This wasn't impossible to accomplish prior to this update, but there were a myriad of steps involved, including importing the song to GarageTune, clipping the section you wanted, exporting to iTunes, converting to AAC, opening it in the finder, renaming it to m4r and then finally importing it again to iTunes.
I've successfully accomplished this to create a custom ringtone following these steps.

This update, however, adds big thumbs up to make this easier. I have yet to try it, but I'm sure it will work fine.
Cool! :)

Actually, before this update, and even with it, you could simply open the file in Quicktime Player (if you have the paid version), clip it to 40 seconds or shorter, export it, and either change the file extension, and use iToner to synch it with the iPhone--or use Make iPhone Ringtone to put it in iTunes and then synch it with the iPhone.

milo
Dec 14, 2007, 03:18 PM
This is nice and all, but why can't I do that in iTunes?

Because likely the only way apple was able to get this in was by insisting that it's only for original music. Of course you can use the same method to use anything ripped from CD, but there's really no way for apple to prevent that while allowing original stuff.

And a whitelist/blacklist in iTunes wouldn't do much good since so much music is just ripped from CD or sources other than buying from the iTunes store.

For protected AAC that you own:

iTunes -> burn AAC to CDRW (yes RW so you can re-use it!), drag file to your hd, drag file from hd to GarageBand

I think it's even easier than that. You can use protected AAC files as the soundtrack for iMovies. So just drag it into iMovie, add any dummy video file, then export as an audio only file.

No burning needed.

joemama
Dec 14, 2007, 03:41 PM
Ok, so correct me if I am wrong: You can import either an AIFF or WAV file and convert it to a ringtone?

Now people are reporting you can import an unprotected mp3 file and make a ringtone out of that as well? So the only thing that DOESN'T work is a protected MP3?

If this is true then yeah, no need to pay for ANY ringtone. Just burn an audio CD and use the AIFF.

Sweet!

yayaba
Dec 14, 2007, 03:41 PM
Well, I was holding off on the iLife update... it's not that I absolutely can't afford it - not that I drink Starbucks anyway :p - but it's that I couldn't justify the $70 for what seems to be a marginal update at best, for me. I don't have a video camera so I wouldn't use the new iMovie and I don't see a $70 change in iPhoto. At least for a most casual photographer. And I definitely won't use iWeb, not much appeal in cookie-cutter website creation for me.

So it's not that I don't like iLife, it's that I didn't really need the upgrade and could have spent that money better. Like on Leopard...

Ah well, guess I'll have to give it a second thought at some point.

I agree. I have pretty much no reason to get iLife '08 (never use iDVD, iMovie '06 is more than good enough for me, I web design as a hobby so iWeb is useless to me, I don't use Garageband at all, and iPhoto I use because it came with my Macbook) but I would like this easy ringtone iPhone integration. It doesn't even seem like much work to add the export feature.

Oh well, Apple's a business I suppose.

glennyboiwpg
Dec 14, 2007, 03:46 PM
this means that I can put the theme song from Buffy the vampile slayer on my iphone! Sweetness ( you can even buy it from itunes)


:)

CANEHDN
Dec 14, 2007, 03:48 PM
Freakin' awesome. Even more of a reason to purchase an iPhone. And even better, it's only available to Mac users.

Small White Car
Dec 14, 2007, 04:01 PM
I agree. I have pretty much no reason to get iLife '08 (never use iDVD, iMovie '06 is more than good enough for me, I web design as a hobby so iWeb is useless to me, I don't use Garageband at all, and iPhoto I use because it came with my Macbook) but I would like this easy ringtone iPhone integration. It doesn't even seem like much work to add the export feature.

Oh well, Apple's a business I suppose.

So...

iLife doesn't have features you want = You didn't buy it
iLife adds a feature you want = You still don't want to buy it

So not adding features you want AND adding features you want has no affect on you either way. What motivation does Apple have to do anything for you, then?

Cleverboy
Dec 14, 2007, 04:10 PM
What about for those of us that aren't on the very latest iLife? Not getting any ringtone support...?
:(Getting lost in all of this... is that fact that simply RENAMING your .m4a file to .m4r and double-clicking on it, now adds it to your ringtones again as of firmware 1.1.2 and iTunes 7.5. Make sure its under 40 seconds, and you're probably golden. GarageBand's announcement simply cements support for the method, and dispells all doubt that this will be a'changing anytime soon.

Custom ringtone ability now officially allowed on iPhone
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=400851

And the original thread by yours truly. (Yeah, I know.) :)

new iTunes - How to Add Ringtones for FREE
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=351495

~ CB

GQB
Dec 14, 2007, 04:12 PM
I just don't get Apple nowadays.

Either this was poorly planned releasing this feature after tons of bad will was built-up in the base and the youger folks.

Or, this was their plan all along, and Apple care more about the media companies than us.


or 3) Apple has to walk a tightrope between its users' needs and the Media conglomerates' ability to pull an NBC. They can't always just plunge ahead with features, consequences be damned. Navigating that little annoyance called 'lawyers' doesn't always please the 'gimme NOW!' crowd.

Huck
Dec 14, 2007, 04:18 PM
OK, so I can create ringtones without any problem and GarageBand *appears* to export them to iTunes... but I can't find the darn things anywhere in iTunes. Not by sorting as ringtones or date added; nothing. Not even doing a Finder search for new files locates anything. Any ideas from the smart folks at MR?

~Huck

Cleverboy
Dec 14, 2007, 04:22 PM
OK, so I can create ringtones without any problem and GarageBand *appears* to export them to iTunes... but I can't find the darn things anywhere in iTunes. Not by sorting as ringtones or date added; nothing. Not even doing a Finder search for new files locates anything. Any ideas from the smart folks at MR?

~HuckDo you have a ringtones section in your source list? Right after "Audiobooks" and "Radio"? If not, upgrade your iTunes... you're overdue. It'll be in there if everything is iRight with our iWorld.

~ CB

Crager724
Dec 14, 2007, 04:33 PM
Will these custom ringtones sync with cell phones other than the iphone?

ncsmith4
Dec 14, 2007, 04:35 PM
Can anyone post a brief tutorial with step by step of how to do this in GarageBand (for those of us that havent opened GarageBand EVER before today)???

Im really quite excited, but I cant seem to figure the program out. :-\

Huck
Dec 14, 2007, 04:40 PM
Do you have a ringtones section in your source list? Right after "Audiobooks" and "Radio"? If not, upgrade your iTunes... you're overdue. It'll be in there if everything is iRight with our iWorld.

~ CB

Yup, iTunes 7.5, Ringtones in the source list, etc... but no sign of the GarageBand created 'tones. Weird.

They *do* show up when I do the .m4a -> .m4r trick in the Finder with files I've created via QuickTime Pro or Amadeus II (or Pro). 'Tis a puzzlement.

Thanks for the suggestion, though.


~Huck

daneoni
Dec 14, 2007, 04:52 PM
Tried it and it does export to iTunes BUT won't sync with the iPhone and says "wasnt synced....cant be played on iPhone".

I take it this only works with 1.1.2?

Cleverboy
Dec 14, 2007, 05:00 PM
Tried it and it does export to iTunes BUT won't sync with the iPhone and says "wasnt synced....cant be played on iPhone".
I take it this only works with 1.1.2?
A thousand times yes. I remember the first time I considered taking the red or blue pill. I figured I didn't want to live a life fearful of every firmware update. As soon as the UK version of 1.1.2 hit, this functionality was exposed. Garageband is just letting us know Apple won't be taking the feature away again (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=351495).

~ CB

RubberShoes
Dec 14, 2007, 05:03 PM
So what keeps you from dumping a song into garageband, selecting the part you want, and creating a ringtone of the song?

Why the hell would we pay an extra dollar if apple just gave us a free solution?

Templex
Dec 14, 2007, 05:04 PM
Totally glad I upgraded to 1.1.2 around three weeks ago.
Better battery life, more stable, and on top of all that, official custom ringtone support!:D

EricHvk
Dec 14, 2007, 05:21 PM
am i doing something wrong it doesnt work with any mp3's or wav files i have

mikes63737
Dec 14, 2007, 05:29 PM
You sure about that? I'm pretty sure I just dragged and dropped the MP3 file of my desired ringtone into a GB track. Then I edited, set up the loop and created a ringtone.

I'm pretty sure I initially created an MP3 file and used that as my source.

:confused:

--DotComCTO

It doesn't let you import an MP3 from the desktop, I never tried dragging one from iTunes. :o

Huck
Dec 14, 2007, 05:36 PM
It doesn't let you import an MP3 from the desktop, I never tried dragging one from iTunes. :o

GarageBand 4.1.1 lets me drag (import) any/all audio files from the Finder. Runnin' 10.5.1

*Still* can't find the ringtones GB creates in iTunes, though. Hmmm...


~Huck

yayaba
Dec 14, 2007, 05:37 PM
So...

iLife doesn't have features you want = You didn't buy it
iLife adds a feature you want = You still don't want to buy it

So not adding features you want AND adding features you want has no affect on you either way. What motivation does Apple have to do anything for you, then?

You call adding iPhone ringtone exporting a feature of the new iLife? That's laughable. I don't recall Apple marketing that as a feature when iLife '08 was released.

I purchased an iPhone already. There's no reason why a feature such as custom ringtones should only be limited to purchasers of iLife '08. I'd feel the same way if I didn't have a Mac and only used Windows.

That's like restricting a feature on iPod's to only Mac users with iLife '08. iLife has nothing do with the iPod/iPhone and the two shouldn't be tied together.

Ultimately, it's not that big of a deal but I am a little miffed.

redgaz26
Dec 14, 2007, 05:46 PM
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maybe its just a liitle bonus for those who have got it??
and I have LOL

JonboyDC
Dec 14, 2007, 05:47 PM
Why the hell would we pay an extra dollar if apple just gave us a free solution?
It's only a free solution if you already own an unprotected copy of the song (say, from the CDs you ripped). If you don't own the song and the only copy available is a protected AAC version at the iTunes Music Store, you're going to have to buy the song and then pay for the ringtone.

And there will always be a lot of people who will be willing to pay extra for the ability to do it in one easy step, along with people who will never bother to learn about this feature of GarageBand.

Rocket Rion
Dec 14, 2007, 07:13 PM
Hey, me too! But I've also got the Star Wars Imperial March on there...

Haha, I'm glad I'm not the only dork out here with that as a ringtone! :)

redgaz26
Dec 14, 2007, 07:20 PM
so simple!!!! Made a few up. That last bit of chasing cars by snow patrol. Superb song. :D

steve31
Dec 14, 2007, 07:21 PM
Does it work for any fellow Canadains out there??? I cant seem to get it to work for me. Once again "not for Canada?":(:mad::mad:

MacNewbie03
Dec 14, 2007, 07:32 PM
Will these custom ringtones sync with cell phones other than the iphone?

If your phone will support MP3's, you can. Instead of choosing Send Ringtone to Itunes, choose Send song to Itunes. In the next box that comes up, choose MP3 encoder from the "compress using" list. Now comes getting it onto your phone. My phone has Bluetooth and I can use the Browse Device option on the Bluetooth menu on my Mac, using that I navigate to where my phone stores ringtones, hit send, then browse to my iTunes library and find the file I want. Oh, and I did find a way to use protected songs, but I'm not telling!!! :D

chrisleeroth
Dec 14, 2007, 07:42 PM
Can I send a song from iTunes to Garage Band, then edit and upload?

redgaz26
Dec 14, 2007, 07:52 PM
Can I send a song from iTunes to Garage Band, then edit and upload?


Yes no problem. Its all done within GarageBand click on the media button and drag the the song in. Edit and send to iTunes as a ringtone.

Willis
Dec 14, 2007, 08:14 PM
What can Windows user do?
Switch to Mac?

Naturally. I think its rather amusing, but I'm pretty sure theres going to be a few people flaming Apple about this soon. Then again, the Zune doesnt work with Macs :rolleyes:

Will these custom ringtones sync with cell phones other than the iphone?

My current ringtone I made myself in Garageband.... about a year ago? Just put it onto my phone, selected it as my ringtone... funky eh?

ntrigue
Dec 14, 2007, 08:29 PM
Does this require 1.1.2?

severe
Dec 14, 2007, 08:29 PM
So what keeps you from dumping a song into garageband, selecting the part you want, and creating a ringtone of the song?

Windows.

ravenvii
Dec 14, 2007, 09:12 PM
Does this require 1.1.2?

Read the ****ing thread.

And I lol'd @ all those whining Windows users. Can I say "too ****ing bad"? Well, I just did.

Cleverboy
Dec 14, 2007, 09:12 PM
Getting lost in all of this... is that fact that simply RENAMING your .m4a file to .m4r and double-clicking on it, now adds it to your ringtones again as of firmware 1.1.2 and iTunes 7.5. Make sure its under 40 seconds, and you're probably golden. GarageBand's announcement simply cements support for the method, and dispells all doubt that this will be a'changing anytime soon.
I take it this only works with 1.1.2?
A thousand times yes.
Does this require 1.1.2?:( Upgrade... your... phone.

~ CB

TurboSC
Dec 14, 2007, 09:17 PM
Read the ****ing thread.

And I lol'd @ all those whining Windows users. Can I say "too ****ing bad"? Well, I just did.

yea, I've upgraded to 1.1.2 a while ago and I'm using Windows... not a big deal really, but after MacWorld things will be different :)

ghall
Dec 14, 2007, 09:59 PM
Wow, I was so excited to see this. It's about time they finally realized that this whole game was stupid. Plus now it gives people another reason to update to iLife '08 if they hadn't already. :D

Smart move Apple! Feel my love.

nerfjames
Dec 14, 2007, 11:11 PM
this means that I can put the theme song from Buffy the vampile slayer on my iphone! Sweetness ( you can even buy it from itunes)


:)

Or if you're like me, you can make ringtones from the entire Nerf Herder catalogue!

Nerf Herder Rocks.

A is jump
Dec 14, 2007, 11:17 PM
This isn't an iphone feature. it is a garageband feature. therefore, if you want the newest feature of garageband... you must have the newest version of garageband.



You call adding iPhone ringtone exporting a feature of the new iLife? That's laughable. I don't recall Apple marketing that as a feature when iLife '08 was released.

I purchased an iPhone already. There's no reason why a feature such as custom ringtones should only be limited to purchasers of iLife '08. I'd feel the same way if I didn't have a Mac and only used Windows.

That's like restricting a feature on iPod's to only Mac users with iLife '08. iLife has nothing do with the iPod/iPhone and the two shouldn't be tied together.

Ultimately, it's not that big of a deal but I am a little miffed.

ravenvii
Dec 14, 2007, 11:41 PM
yea, I've upgraded to 1.1.2 a while ago and I'm using Windows... not a big deal really, but after MacWorld things will be different :)

You think iLife will come to Windows? That what you're sayin'?

Willis
Dec 15, 2007, 02:22 AM
You think iLife will come to Windows? That what you're sayin'?

no, i think he/she (sorry!) is buying a mac

alFR
Dec 15, 2007, 07:01 AM
I purchased an iPhone already. There's no reason why a feature such as custom ringtones should only be limited to purchasers of iLife '08. I'd feel the same way if I didn't have a Mac and only used Windows.

It isn't limited to iLife '08, this just automates the process. If you do a forum search you'll find a number of posts detailing how to edit out a section of a song, convert to m4a, rename to m4r and put onto the 'phone. You can edit the song with any number of free tools like Audacity. Easy, and works on Windows too for those stuck on the dark side....

kornyboy
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I figured they would go to something like this eventually. Does anyone know if it works with any song or just with stuff created with GarageBand?

dwd3885
Dec 15, 2007, 09:00 AM
so our windows friends will have to pay .99 cents while mac users get free ringtones on their iphone?? I smell lawsuit coming quickly, and Apple isn't going to win

joseph2166
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I figured they would go to something like this eventually. Does anyone know if it works with any song or just with stuff created with GarageBand?

ohh read the posts before you! It works with anything GarageBand can import - mp3s included. The only exclusion is (obviously) itunes protected purchases.

jaseone
Dec 15, 2007, 10:20 AM
Can someone more talented than me please get to it, take the master NiN tracks and mix up some uniquely awesome ringtones? Pretty please?

audiored
Dec 15, 2007, 11:02 AM
Can someone more talented than me please get to it, take the master NiN tracks and mix up some uniquely awesome ringtones? Pretty please?

I was playing with this last night and realized I sucked at it. I did manage to create one rather ok ring tone from a fav song.

JGowan
Dec 15, 2007, 11:04 AM
GarageBand doesn't import MP3 files. Most people don't know how to get around that, which means that people can't use "their illegal music".

Also, it doesn't import iTunes protected AAC files, which means that if it's from the iTMS you have to pay still.

So... the average consumer can't make ringtones out of others' songs.The average customer is probably on a Windows computer or have something other than the latest version of iLife '08 -- worst still (like me) hasn't downloaded the update -- or even worse, don't know that they could do this. This is truly no big deal until it gets into iTunes and becomes a known feature that Apple officially announces on their website and in the printed materials they pack in with their phones.

Porco
Dec 15, 2007, 11:24 AM
Great news, now all the apologists who said it was OK to charge people for the same music twice just to use it as a ringtone can shut up about that. It was always incredibly retarded to deny use of music as ringtones on a phone advertised for its integrated music/phone features.

And yes, Garageband has imported MP3s for ages, from iTunes or the desktop.

Many Windows users often say there's so much more and better software on their OS, so I'm sure they'll figure something out.

Anyway, it's one more reason towards why I might consider an iPhone. Keep fixing the nonsense Apple, you'll get there in the end!

robanga
Dec 15, 2007, 12:15 PM
Made a ringtone last evening and it was very easy. Took me about 5 minutes to figure it out and I had yet to use GB except to play around with the instruments.

macinfojunkie
Dec 15, 2007, 01:18 PM
What's the big deal about ringtones anyway?
Does anyone except teenagers and chavs worry about such things?
Or am I just so far behind the times?

:D

daneoni
Dec 15, 2007, 01:58 PM
A thousand times yes. I remember the first time I considered taking the red or blue pill. I figured I didn't want to live a life fearful of every firmware update. As soon as the UK version of 1.1.2 hit, this functionality was exposed. Garageband is just letting us know Apple won't be taking the feature away again (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=351495).

~ CB

Finally bit the bullet and upgraded and it works fine.

junker
Dec 15, 2007, 02:04 PM
I would like to boast a little, that I asked for this EXACT function on this thread here:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4487124#post4487124
on 11/13/07 at 8:48 am.

I'm smug with having either: predicted or having been listened too. :)

This (sort of) lessens my ongoing frustrations about Leopard (yeah, my luck is with Leo is bad).

(Sorry, I had to take this moment to be happy about my mac - lately it's been a struggle.)

Crager724
Dec 15, 2007, 02:05 PM
If your phone will support MP3's, you can. Instead of choosing Send Ringtone to Itunes, choose Send song to Itunes. In the next box that comes up, choose MP3 encoder from the "compress using" list. Now comes getting it onto your phone. My phone has Bluetooth and I can use the Browse Device option on the Bluetooth menu on my Mac, using that I navigate to where my phone stores ringtones, hit send, then browse to my iTunes library and find the file I want. Oh, and I did find a way to use protected songs, but I'm not telling!!! :D
Ahhh, thank you very much. And I wish you a Merry Christmas.

dvince2
Dec 15, 2007, 02:09 PM
so our windows friends will have to pay .99 cents while mac users get free ringtones on their iphone?? I smell lawsuit coming quickly, and Apple isn't going to win

Maybe Steve Jobs can give his defense over a A/V session on Messenger:Mac while uploading songs to his zune from his iMac....

bd-in-pdx
Dec 15, 2007, 02:35 PM
Since I can't make ringtones from my iTunes purchased songs, Apple just gave me one more reason to buy mp3's from Amazon or cd's from Best Buy. Attention Amazon and Best Buy: Be sure to send an extra special christmas card to Apple since they continue to figure out ways to send business your way.

Lately it feels every business move by Apple is one mistake from logically thought through. I realize they must have tons of contractual obligations to dance around, but simple decisions like this end up looking pretty lame to their customer base. Attention customers: Here is an upgrade giving you the ability to quickly and easily create ringtones from your music. Just not music you bought from Apple. I bought the music didn't I? Apple gave me the ability (legally!) to make ringtones from music, why on earth would they limit iTunes store bought music???

andy721
Dec 15, 2007, 04:23 PM
This is the dumbest idea paying for ringtones just to make an extra buck, first of all Apple prices are skyrocket high to an extreme level of bullcrap where everyone has an opinion or two but its not on a positive note, maybe apple should realize just by making good hardware sense day one, yet to set a good price on their product. Sickening.
Anyways Just get a comp with bluetooth an a phone that has one enable so you can do your own with quicktime pro or garageband for free.
The new macpros will be 4,000 by the way. :mad:

benfilan
Dec 15, 2007, 05:10 PM
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this is really cool, but....... I (heart) marimba!!

HLdan
Dec 15, 2007, 06:43 PM
GarageBand doesn't import MP3 files. Most people don't know how to get around that, which means that people can't use "their illegal music".

Also, it doesn't import iTunes protected AAC files, which means that if it's from the iTMS you have to pay still.

So... the average consumer can't make ringtones out of others' songs.

What are you talking about? Garageband can certainly import mp3's. I drag and drop mp3's all the time into GB to make ringtones for my Razr phone.

HLdan
Dec 15, 2007, 06:51 PM
What can Windows user do?
Switch to Mac?

Ha ha, I was waiting for this. I have been reading and reading waiting to see a Windows user whine. Well, wake up, Apple has been too cordial for long enough giving Windows users the exact same experience with the iPhone and iPod and iTunes as they do the Mac users. Apple should implement more Mac only features for their products, this would give people more compelling reasons to buy a Mac and actually use it as a "Mac".

And before anybody (especially Windows users call flame me) Mac users are burned year after year with Windows only features in MS Office, MS Messenger and virtually anything MS makes for the Mac.

Cleverboy
Dec 15, 2007, 06:58 PM
This is the dumbest idea paying for ringtones just to make an extra buck, first of all Apple prices are skyrocket high to an extreme level of bullcrap where everyone has an opinion or two but its not on a positive note, maybe apple should realize just by making good hardware sense day one, yet to set a good price on their product. Sickening.
Anyways Just get a comp with bluetooth an a phone that has one enable so you can do your own with quicktime pro or garageband for free.
The new macpros will be 4,000 by the way. :mad:I just got a Mac for $1,300 last month capable of doing EVERYTHING I need as a design/illustration professional. 10 years ago, I bought a top of the line Mac for $5,000 (Quadra 840av). Mac Pros currently start at $2,500. While I have GarageBand for free, I know I can throw ringtones on my iPhone for free too. I honestly have NO idea what you're really complaining about, because... nothing lines up. :confused:

~ CB

Cleverboy
Dec 15, 2007, 07:05 PM
Ha ha, I was waiting for this. I have been reading and reading waiting to see a Windows user whine. Well, wake up, Apple has been too cordial for long enough giving Windows users the exact same experience with the iPhone and iPod and iTunes as they do the Mac users. Apple should implement more Mac only features for their products, this would give people more compelling reasons to buy a Mac and actually use it as a "Mac".

And before anybody (especially Windows users call flame me) Mac users are burned year after year with Windows only features in MS Office, MS Messenger and virtually anything MS makes for the Mac. Oy... Windows users have NO problem using Audacity for ringtones. That's what I used. Mac users are free to tease Windows users for not having Garageband... but choosing a section of audio and saving it out isn't anything to toot over. :)

~ CB

HLdan
Dec 15, 2007, 07:17 PM
Oy... Windows users have NO problem using Audacity for ringtones. That's what I used. Mac users are free to tease Windows users for not having Garageband... but choosing a section of audio and saving it out isn't anything to toot over. :)

~ CB

Oh you thought I was teasing? Nope, not at all, just informing. But stay tuned after Macworld there will be much more Mac only stuff to come for Apple's products, they will make certain there are many more reasons to switch to the Mac, believe me, Apple will make sure you move off of Windows one way or another. :D

andy721
Dec 15, 2007, 09:11 PM
I just got a Mac for $1,300 last month capable of doing EVERYTHING I need as a design/illustration professional. 10 years ago, I bought a top of the line Mac for $5,000 (Quadra 840av). Mac Pros currently start at $2,500. While I have GarageBand for free, I know I can throw ringtones on my iPhone for free too. I honestly have NO idea what you're really complaining about, because... nothing lines up. :confused:

~ CB

I was suggesting everyone do it the free way and forget the ringtone thing on itunes.

Cleverboy
Dec 15, 2007, 09:21 PM
I was suggesting everyone do it the free way and forget the ringtone thing on itunes.But... iTunes is free... and you can add ringtones to your iPhone using iTunes for free. So... we're still in the same place I think. iTunes ALSO offers ringtones through the iTMS for $1.99, but you don't need to buy them unless you don't want to crop your sounds yourself.

~ CB

skwoytek
Dec 15, 2007, 11:15 PM
I'll answer a few questions. Some already answered, others not.

You can import almost any non-DRM'd audio file into GarageBand. Some files are at too low quality (bitrate, etc.) for GB and will be denied.

MP3s can be dropped straight into GB as a track and looped for a ringtone.

iTunes Plus music can be dropped straight from iTunes into GB as a track and looped for a ringtone.

You can cut, mix and edit to your heart's content (under 40 secs). My iPhone rings for 20 seconds before the caller is sent to VM, so take that into account. I don't think any phone rings for 40 seconds.

Choose the note in the LCD menu and change from Measures mode to Time mode for easier time based editing.

http://appleservedup.com/images/lcdtimemode.png

Apple's GB -> ringtone method requires a cycle region (a loop). Therefore, if you want a ringtone with "section a" followed by a repeating "section b," you'll need to fill the entire 40 second loop to prevent hearing "section a" again. My example of this ringtone type uses the tip below to record the text-to-speech voice Alex saying - "Incoming call from Arnold Kim." Arnold Kim ringtone (http://appleservedup.com/files/arnoldkimcall.m4r) (m4r @ 529k) from AppleServedUp.com.

Short loops can produce some quite nice and very small ringtones. CTU ringtone from "24" (http://appleservedup.com/files/ctu24.m4r) (m4r @ 19k) from AppleServedUp.com

If you know how to use Soundflower (http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/14067/soundflower) (via MacUpdate) and GB you can make a ringtone from any sound playable on your Mac. This includes protected AAC's - after all, you did pay for the rights to listen to said song.

Quick steps for Soundflower. Soundflower basically reroutes the audio in the Mac. Under System Preferences:Sound:Output set to soundflower (2ch). Under GarageBand:Preferences:Audio/Midi set Audio Input to Soundflower (2ch). GarageBand's output should be set to Built-in Audio. Your system's output is now Garageband's input. Under GarageBand:Track:New Track choose Real Instrument Track. Start recording. Then start playing your source (iTunes Protected AAC, DVD, streaming audio from the web, etc.). You'll see the wave form building on the track in GB. Cut, mix and edit to 40 seconds and send to iTunes as a ringtone.

Lifehacker's brief tutorial with visuals (http://lifehacker.com/software/how-to/create-custom-iphone-ringtones-the-free-and-apple-way-334073.php) for creating GarageBand ringtones.

Apple's support doc (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=307108) for creating custom ringtones in GarageBand.

slevytam
Dec 16, 2007, 12:13 AM
hi guys,

just wanted to share a tutorial i made on using this new garageband feature. it worked great for me. hope it helps someone.

http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=465

thanks

chipotle
Dec 16, 2007, 01:36 AM
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You can't please all of the people all of the time. You'll want blood next I suppose.

Good lord. I don't think I'm asking for much, the latest iLife hasn't been out for very long yet and this is a relatively small change to the software that could most easily be implemented into older versions. Sheesh.

Welcome to Apple, Inc. They are a business. One of their many goals each day is to make a profit, which in turn leads to paying employees a salary in which to make a living. Allowing one to use old software and giving free updates doesn't turn a profit. Ok seriously, go out and spend $69.99 on Amazon for iLife '08. It's the biggest bargain of the century. And put down that $2 cup of Starbucks before you say you can't afford it.

Well, I was holding off on the iLife update... it's not that I absolutely can't afford it - not that I drink Starbucks anyway :p - but it's that I couldn't justify the $70 for what seems to be a marginal update at best, for me. I don't have a video camera so I wouldn't use the new iMovie and I don't see a $70 change in iPhoto. At least for a most casual photographer. And I definitely won't use iWeb, not much appeal in cookie-cutter website creation for me.

So it's not that I don't like iLife, it's that I didn't really need the upgrade and could have spent that money better. Like on Leopard...

Ah well, guess I'll have to give it a second thought at some point.

well said. I couldn't have said it better myself.

lazyrighteye
Dec 16, 2007, 02:08 AM
hi guys,

just wanted to share a tutorial i made on using this new garageband feature. it worked great for me. hope it helps someone.

http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=465

thanks

I just checked your link and spent the past 1.5 hours making custom RTs.
Great resource!

Thanks for sharing.

megfilmworks
Dec 16, 2007, 10:06 AM
hi guys,

just wanted to share a tutorial i made on using this new garageband feature. it worked great for me. hope it helps someone.

http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=465

thanksGood suggestions on the compressor and filter settings, this should help users who have trouble getting their ringtones to sound right on the tiny iPhone speaker. Summing the stereo to mono helps as well (but do this before compression and eq)

MacBoySeattle
Dec 16, 2007, 10:19 AM
Oh wow! We can finally use mp3s as ringtones! Something I've been able to do on virtually ALL of my other cell phones for two frickin years! Oh wait, with Apple you have to use their proprietary crapware in order to "process" the music file and then import it into the locked down wonder of toy phones known as the iphone. Well golly gee! In all my other phones, all you have to do is upload a mp3 on a microSD card or on the phones memory and you can automatically just assign it as a ringtone. Really now, who really buys this locked down toy phone other than people who want to torture themselves? LOL. Not many if you look at the Q3 sales numbers by handset manufacturer.

inkling23
Dec 16, 2007, 11:23 AM
I used to be able to drag homeripped MP3s directly into GB, but now I can't. What DID work, however, was converting an MP3 into an AIFF file in QT Pro. That file then imported easily into GB. Maybe it's a Tiger (10.4.11) thing? Hope to join the Leopard club soon (hopefully for xmas)... :)

skellener
Dec 16, 2007, 11:24 AM
I just don't get Apple nowadays.

Either this was poorly planned releasing this feature after tons of bad will was built-up in the base and the youger folks.

Or, this was their plan all along, and Apple care more about the media companies than us.

Or AT&T forced Apple to do this in the first place, and has finally relented (at least for Mac users). Remember, Steve said you'd be able to turn ANY song on your iPod/iPhone into a ringtone at MacWorld last year. AT&T must have put the keibash on that and demanded they charge for it. I think Apple somehow has convinced them to allow this for Mac users since we are such a "small" percent of the market. It's good to be small. ;)

Draythor
Dec 16, 2007, 11:39 AM
Is it possible to create a custom ringtone and port it to a windows machine?

slevytam
Dec 16, 2007, 01:25 PM
thanks for the feedback guys. i never thought of converting to mono, ill try it out.

Draythor, if you wanted to you could use GarageBand to create ringtones then move them to a windows box. Use the Edit:Split command to split the mp3 into only the section you want for the ringtone (30s). Delete the excess sections then use Share:Export Song to Disk... command to export the ringtone to a file. Then rename the exported m4a to m4r. You can then send this to anyone. All they have to do is double click it and it will add to iTunes as a ringtone.

Alternatively you could just create your own ringtones in iTunes for Windows. Check this: http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=439

Porco
Dec 16, 2007, 03:41 PM
I used to be able to drag homeripped MP3s directly into GB, but now I can't. What DID work, however, was converting an MP3 into an AIFF file in QT Pro. That file then imported easily into GB. Maybe it's a Tiger (10.4.11) thing? Hope to join the Leopard club soon (hopefully for xmas)... :)

Don't know what's up with that, but I am running 10.4.11 and I can drag MP3s straight into Garageband, from iTunes or the finder.

MysterMac
Dec 16, 2007, 03:44 PM
anyone know if Logic Pro 8 has this function ? Someone who has Logic installed probably wouldnt install Garageband as well.

AidenShaw
Dec 16, 2007, 06:02 PM
Still confused about why phone crap ends up on the "Mac" news page. Isn't there a forum for phone crap?

Or is this just to get ready for Apple going "all gadgets" and dropping support for computers?

megfilmworks
Dec 16, 2007, 07:12 PM
Oh wow! We can finally use mp3s as ringtones! Something I've been able to do on virtually ALL of my other cell phones for two frickin years! Oh wait, with Apple you have to use their proprietary crapware in order to "process" the music file and then import it into the locked down wonder of toy phones known as the iphone. You don't need to use any software at all. And I have been putting my own ringtones on the iPhone since the week after iDay. Maybe if you did your research you would not be so frustrated by features that already exist. Knowledge can go a long way to helping with your frustration.

Scorch07
Dec 16, 2007, 07:48 PM
Well... this is a step in the right direction, but I don't think it's complete yet. I'm still stuck with Garageband 3 for the moment, so I'm out of luck with this I suppose, not to mention all of the Windows-using-iPhone owners out there who are out of luck on this. What Apple really needs to do is implement a free ringtone making feature into iTunes for either OS that can make a ringtone out of any audio file. Essentially the same thing but it works for a larger audience and makes it yet again a little more convenient.

megfilmworks
Dec 16, 2007, 08:15 PM
Still confused about why phone crap ends up on the "Mac" news page. Isn't there a forum for phone crap?

Or is this just to get ready for Apple going "all gadgets" and dropping support for computers?
I think this one was on the front page because it deals with a new realease of an iLife app on Macs whose most discussed new feature is import Ringtones to iTunes.:confused:

bd-in-pdx
Dec 16, 2007, 09:22 PM
Thanks for the tutorial skwoytek, you did a fantastic job!

joejoejoe
Dec 17, 2007, 12:36 AM
Next week: Apple offers .50 cent gift cards to the Apple Store for early ringtone buyers!


hahahahahhahahha

Steven Ballmer
Dec 17, 2007, 07:18 AM
With Vista we only make enhancements, improvements,... the software isn't pre-broken though!

SFC Archer
Dec 17, 2007, 12:03 PM
so our windows friends will have to pay .99 cents while mac users get free ringtones on their iphone?? I smell lawsuit coming quickly, and Apple isn't going to win

Sorry to dissapoint you my friend...I am still quite able to create the same FREE ringtones that you are. With the use of Audacity and ripping my CD's or in this case recording my daughters voice...I can create the same free ringtones that you can and do not have to wait for a GB update.

Ha ha, I was waiting for this. I have been reading and reading waiting to see a Windows user whine. Well, wake up, Apple has been too cordial for long enough giving Windows users the exact same experience with the iPhone and iPod and iTunes as they do the Mac users. Apple should implement more Mac only features for their products, this would give people more compelling reasons to buy a Mac and actually use it as a "Mac".

And before anybody (especially Windows users call flame me) Mac users are burned year after year with Windows only features in MS Office, MS Messenger and virtually anything MS makes for the Mac.

Sorry to burst your ego inflated bubble but I have been able to do this long before and while you were still whining about third party apps for your Mac. I can do the exact same thing you do with Garage Band with my Audacity which I've been using for years. Apple will never completely lock down their systems to all platform users, the same as the rest of the world will maintain some simblance of compatability with each other. Oh gee...is that parallels you have installed on your computer so that you can game and use windows apps?

Oh you thought I was teasing? Nope, not at all, just informing. But stay tuned after Macworld there will be much more Mac only stuff to come for Apple's products, they will make certain there are many more reasons to switch to the Mac, believe me, Apple will make sure you move off of Windows one way or another. :D

You are so dreaming and really you should treat all computer users the same...each platform has its merits and its problems. One is not better then the other, only in parts. I seem to recall most recently a 7.3.1 QT update that is doing alot of serious damage to Mac users only so don't go into the Mac is better...they all have problems. And in NO WAY am I saying windows is better either...it deffinetly has its shortfalls and I won't even consider Vista until its fixed, but XP is awesome and I have no issues what so ever.

Is it possible to create a custom ringtone and port it to a windows machine?

Draythor...it is very possible to create your own ringtones.

1) You will need Audacity (its free) or similiar software that you may already have that will allow you to make clips of songs.
2) Find any song or sound that you like (i recorded my daughter's voice saying "Daddy You Have a Phone Call") and clip it to 30 seconds or less and save in the MP3 format.
3) Drag to iTunes and convert your sound clip to the .AAC format.
4) Drag to your desktop, make sure that you can view file extensions and change the .m4a to .m4r extension and drag and drop back into iTunes in the ringtone folder.
5) Sync your phone and bingo....new ringtone

The only thing different between this and GB is it now automatically sends it to iTunes for Syncing for you...."IF" you can update to the new GB

Good Luck to ALL platform users and enjoy your new FREE Ringtones

slffl
Dec 17, 2007, 03:49 PM
Oh wow! We can finally use mp3s as ringtones! Something I've been able to do on virtually ALL of my other cell phones for two frickin years! Oh wait, with Apple you have to use their proprietary crapware in order to "process" the music file and then import it into the locked down wonder of toy phones known as the iphone. Well golly gee! In all my other phones, all you have to do is upload a mp3 on a microSD card or on the phones memory and you can automatically just assign it as a ringtone. Really now, who really buys this locked down toy phone other than people who want to torture themselves? LOL. Not many if you look at the Q3 sales numbers by handset manufacturer.

That's funny. I couldn't do this with my Samsung A900, sanyo VM4500, sidekick v1, and I don't remember being able to do it on my Treo 600 or Treo 300.

Read below!

EDIT: HAHAHA, looking at your previous posts (http://forums.macrumors.com/search.php?do=finduser&u=82247), that's all you do is troll these forums!! You've been doing it constantly for over a year! Wow kid, get a life!

brentg33
Dec 17, 2007, 07:32 PM
hey, can anyone point me in the direction of a good website to get short audio clips from? like from tv, movies, radio etc?

thanks
brent

toomuchrock
Dec 18, 2007, 12:05 AM
Not working. Help? I know Garageband. I'm using 4.1.1. I record myself saying "RING," set the cycle, then Send to iTunes (7.5). Song pops up in iTunes, plays. I hit sync on my 1.1.1 phone and get a notice telling me the ringtone wasn't copied as it wasn't playable on that iPhone. iPHone is unmolested at this point.

Thoughts?

SiD

G4R2
Dec 18, 2007, 07:54 AM
Not working. Help? I know Garageband. I'm using 4.1.1. I record myself saying "RING," set the cycle, then Send to iTunes (7.5). Song pops up in iTunes, plays. I hit sync on my 1.1.1 phone and get a notice telling me the ringtone wasn't copied as it wasn't playable on that iPhone. iPHone is unmolested at this point.

Thoughts?

SiD

The requirements are that you have iPhone with software version 1.1.2 or later.

toomuchrock
Dec 18, 2007, 08:20 AM
The requirements are that you have iPhone with software version 1.1.2 or later.

God I'm dim. Thanks. Either time for me to molest my 1.1.1 phone or commit to 1.1.2 (yeah I know there's a rollback as well).

gusanitoverde
Dec 18, 2007, 10:16 AM
I've tried many times to create a ringtone in garage band, but when I export it to itunes, instead of being of lenght of 40 seconds, it gets chopped to only 7 seconds. What am I doing wrong?

OW22
Dec 21, 2007, 04:57 AM
I've tried many times to create a ringtone in garage band, but when I export it to iTunes, instead of being of length of 40 seconds, it gets chopped to only 7 seconds. What am I doing wrong?

There's little yellow bars at the top when you bring the track into GB. They are the markers that control the length of the clip you then export.



There is a workaround for those on 1.1.1. Export the ringtones from GB as usual then just convert them to MP3 and then put them in your iTunes as a playlist and sync it with your iPhone. Then use Send song off the Installer to set them as ringtones.

Glax69
Jan 4, 2008, 09:57 PM
I'd appreciate it if someone could help me out with....

After I've changed my song into the length I want my ringtone to be---and i try to export---It exports as a SONG into my LIBRARY as an .aif file i believe---I've looked at a few tutorials that have the option to share>Send RINGTONE to itunes.......

I have the latest updates of both itunes and garage band..

it creates a playlist titled with me as the artist puts the tracks on them....

any ideas?
thanks....