View Full Version : 30" iMac -- Any rumors / possibility of one?
sk8ordie
Dec 20, 2007, 02:48 PM
Have there been any rumors/speculation/talks of a 30" iMac?
A 30" would make a great addition to the lineup imo. Im dreaming here but a 30" Penryn iMac with 1TB HD and HD-DVD/BlueRay would make the ultimate bedroom home theater/computer!
Only downside is that it would be very expensive.
wakerider017
Dec 20, 2007, 02:50 PM
Have there been any rumors/speculation/talks of a 30" iMac?
A 30" would make a great addition to the lineup imo. Im dreaming here but a 30" Penryn iMac with 1TB HD and HD-DVD/BlueRay would make the ultimate bedroom home theater/computer!
Only downside is that it would be very expensive.
Very Very expensive...
je1ani
Dec 20, 2007, 02:54 PM
if Apple charges $1899 for the cinema display of a 30" what do you think an iMac would be?? $3k ++??? For that price i'd rather buy a 8 Core Mac Pro with a 30" Dell LCD :D
tersono
Dec 20, 2007, 02:56 PM
I wish, but I think it's highly unlikely.....
mrkramer
Dec 20, 2007, 02:56 PM
there have not been many rumors. and it would still be to expensive for several more years. if you want one the closest you will get is a Mac pro with a 30" ACD and add a blu-ray and an HD-DVD drive later. it would probably be similar in cost too.
lofight
Dec 20, 2007, 02:59 PM
if Apple charges $1899 for the cinema display of a 30" what do you think an iMac would be?? $3k ++??? For that price i'd rather buy a 8 Core Mac Pro with a 30" Dell LCD :D
:p because the ACD are better, but i see your point :p
and 30" would be to big and heavy IMO, maybe in the future when everything becomes less place-needing and less heavier..
~Shard~
Dec 20, 2007, 03:01 PM
I don't know if I'd personally be comfortable buying a 30" AIO. With a major investment such as a 30" display, I think I would like it not to be directly tied to an non-upgradeable AIO.
wakerider017
Dec 20, 2007, 03:02 PM
:p because the ACD are better, but i see your point :p
and 30" would be to big and heavy IMO, maybe in the future when everything becomes less place-needing and less heavier..
30" will always be 30", unless you go projection or holographic or something.
:)
lofight
Dec 20, 2007, 03:07 PM
30" will always be 30", unless you go projection or holographic or something.
:)
But if the ACD are better quality than it would be more expensive right?
~Shard~
Dec 20, 2007, 03:29 PM
Questions like this make me think, how big will computer displays get? Will we eventually have 42" displays, 50"? Where will it end? I guess, as with most thing in technology, it will never end... ;)
Techguy172
Dec 20, 2007, 03:51 PM
For the iMac i think 30" is too big and way too expensive there is no such thing as a cheap 30" panel they are all expensive and none are really good so it sounds like the computer would have to be around $3500
No thanks!!
iPhil
Dec 20, 2007, 03:59 PM
Questions like this make me think, how big will computer displays get? Will we eventually have 42" displays, 50"? Where will it end? I guess, as with most thing in technology, it will never end... ;)
I want this one (http://www.engadget.com/2004/12/16/samsungs-102-inch-plasma-tv/) even out of date by now .. still.. :D :D
~Shard~
Dec 20, 2007, 04:54 PM
I want this one (http://www.engadget.com/2004/12/16/samsungs-102-inch-plasma-tv/) even out of date by now .. still.. :D :D
HDTV is so last generation already. I'm waiting for Ultra High Def - 7680x4320 resolution and 22.2 surround sound, baby! :cool:
iPhil
Dec 20, 2007, 05:01 PM
I want this one (http://www.engadget.com/2004/12/16/samsungs-102-inch-plasma-tv/) even out of date by now .. still.. :D :D
HDTV is so last generation already. I'm waiting for Ultra High Def - 7680x4320 resolution and 22.2 surround sound, baby! :cool:
Ok.. you win w/UHD..
4JNA
Dec 20, 2007, 05:04 PM
i used to be hell bent for bigger. then i got it. after the upgrade, my neck hurt from looking left and right, and come to find out being partially deaf, anything above 2.1 is a complete waste. so went back to my sanyo CRT tv, apple hifi, and 24" dell LCD with 5 inputs. life is good again!
~Shard~
Dec 20, 2007, 05:07 PM
Ok.. you win w/UHD..
And screw Blu Ray / HD-DVD, I need something with more capacity to store my UHDTV content (one minute of footage takes up about 200 GB). I was initially thinking of going with HVD, but 4 TB on a disc just won't cut it for UHD movies, so I'll have to hold out for PCD I guess... 50 TB per disc should do me for a while... :cool:
i make movies
Dec 20, 2007, 05:26 PM
According to my calculations, if Apple were to make a 30" iMac, the cheapest it would cost would be 2699. Here's what I did
30" Cine display = 1799
23" cine display = 899
Price difference = 900
24" iMac = 1799
add 900 bucks = 2699
But, since the 30" would be geared more towards Pro than consumer, I'm sure it would have a faster chip or something, making it more like 2999 or higher. If they made one and the screen was top notch, I'd get one. It would be nice if they can make one where the RAM maxed out higher than 4 gigs....would the next step be 8 gigs?
Also, a bluray burner would be amazing. My last 2 projects are mastered in HD (one in 720p and one in 1080p) so it would be nice to retain that resolution. I die a little on the inside when I watch a regular dvd of them....the pixelation is very noticeable.
Personally, I'd get one if I had the money. I use final cut pro so the larger the screen the better.
sushi
Dec 20, 2007, 05:40 PM
And screw Blu Ray / HD-DVD, I need something with more capacity to store my UHDTV content (one minute of footage takes up about 200 GB). I was initially thinking of going with HVD, but 4 TB on a disc just won't cut it for UHD movies, so I'll have to hold out for PCD I guess... 50 TB per disc should do me for a while... :cool:
I heard Apple is going to release this next Tuesday! ;) :p :D
As for the 30 inch iMac, at this time, I doubt many would buy one since it is a closed system and would cost so much. Especially when you consider you can get a great MacPro and 30 inch monitor for probably what a 30 inch iMac would cost, and you can upgrade the MacPro.
jnc
Dec 20, 2007, 06:12 PM
If I was buying an all in one computer with a screen so large, it'd sure as hell better have some decent INPUTS!
~Shard~
Dec 20, 2007, 06:49 PM
If I was buying an all in one computer with a screen so large, it'd sure as hell better have some decent INPUTS!
Better hold off for FW3200 then. :p ;) :D
queshy
Dec 21, 2007, 12:05 AM
30" is crazy - I don't think we'll see it. A 30" display for most is prohibitively expensive already...
kuebby
Dec 21, 2007, 01:15 PM
They won't release a 30" iMac until they're built with fold-able screens so they can be folded up and put in a case for portability.
CRIIM44
Dec 22, 2007, 12:33 PM
They won't release a 30" iMac until they're built with fold-able screens so they can be folded up and put in a case for portability.
isnt that the point of a laptop
~Shard~
Dec 22, 2007, 12:53 PM
isnt that the point of a laptop
Yes, but how many 30" laptops do you know of? :p ;) :D
Father Jack
Dec 22, 2007, 12:56 PM
30" iMac, I wouldn't think so.
Imagine the reinforced desk you would need ... :eek:
~Shard~
Dec 22, 2007, 12:59 PM
30" iMac, I wouldn't think so.
Imagine the reinforced desk you would need ... :eek:
How much difference in weight would there really be though between a 30"iMac and the current 30" ACDs? The iMac's components wouldn't make that much of a difference I would think. ;)
Father Jack
Dec 22, 2007, 01:03 PM
A friend has the 24" iMac and it is seriously heavy.
I know it's different, but the difference between a Mac Pro case and a complete Mac Pro is fairly substantial which makes me think a 30" iMac would be a tad too heavy.
Sorry forgot to add:
A tad too heavy on the pocket as well and like the other iMacs not great for upgrading.
~Shard~
Dec 22, 2007, 01:31 PM
A friend has the 24" iMac and it is seriously heavy.
I have a 24" iMac and it is not that heavy, unless the person is a weakling... 25 pounds isn't that bad... :p ;)
Seriously though, I know where you're coming from, and I agree, I don't see Apple releasing one any time soon. :)
Techguy172
Dec 22, 2007, 10:27 PM
30" iMac, I wouldn't think so.
Imagine the reinforced desk you would need ... :eek:
Your desk shouldn't have to change unless it is really weak.
Digital Skunk
Dec 22, 2007, 10:30 PM
Give me a 30" iMac if I can upgrade the HDD, it has 2 HDD slots, a user replaceable GFX card, and up to 4GB of RAM.
Big-TDI-Guy
Dec 22, 2007, 10:31 PM
Unless you have a low-end Ikea desk - I don't think weight would be that much of an issue. I just lifted my 24" iMac - and it isn't heavy at all. My friends tower ALONE is 2x that - and his POS desk is doing just fine.
I would STRONGLY contemplate (@*#ing (#&$ if it got me one of these... (of course with Blu-Ray RW drive, 8800+ Nvidia, pciE slot, FW3200, USB3.0 and DVI, HDMI, and component INPUTS)
Digital Skunk
Dec 22, 2007, 10:35 PM
Unless you have a low-end Ikea desk - I don't think weight would be that much of an issue. I just lifted my 24" iMac - and it isn't heavy at all. My friends tower ALONE is 2x that - and his POS desk is doing just fine.
I would STRONGLY contemplate (@*#ing (#&$ if it got me one of these... (of course with Blu-Ray RW drive, 8800+ Nvidia, pciE slot, FW3200, USB3.0 and DVI, HDMI, and component INPUTS)
That's the worst mockup I have ever seen, but I would love to see a cut down Mac Pro inside of a 30" iMac as well. Forget about BluRay though since I am not paying $700 for a drive that doesn't do anything more than let me watch movies.
AND DON'T MAKE THE SCREEN GLOSSY FOR GOODNESS SAKE!
Big-TDI-Guy
Dec 22, 2007, 10:44 PM
It's not my mock-up - but that is the worst you've ever seen??? In that you don't like this - or it is the hack-job picture quality?
Because honestly - I think that trumps both the previous iMac and current iMac designs.
I'd throw down serious cash for it. Perhaps I'll update it later with what I want - and we can see if you like the "redesign" any better, ok?
And as for the BRD - fine - it can be an OPTION - and option that you won't get - and I will. :cool:
Digital Skunk
Dec 22, 2007, 11:42 PM
It's not my mock-up - but that is the worst you've ever seen??? In that you don't like this - or it is the hack-job picture quality?
Because honestly - I think that trumps both the previous iMac and current iMac designs.
I'd throw down serious cash for it. Perhaps I'll update it later with what I want - and we can see if you like the "redesign" any better, ok?
And as for the BRD - fine - it can be an OPTION - and option that you won't get - and I will. :cool:
I know it wasn't yours... i should have said that in my post. It's the hack job picture quality that really annoys me. The person that did it has no imagination. I would love to see a 30" look like the current model, sans the glossy display, at least.
And you are right about BluRay. Not that I have anything against it, just that I don't want to see the price jacked up $700 for it.
ReanimationLP
Dec 23, 2007, 12:48 AM
If they do, they better put a HDMI input or a DVI input, so when that thing is obsolete, at least the monitor can be reused.
Father Jack
Dec 23, 2007, 03:32 AM
Your desk shouldn't have to change unless it is really weak.
Sorry the "reinforced desk" comment was a joke .... ;)
Although I really would imagine that a 30" imac would be quite a handful .. :o
Father Jack
Dec 23, 2007, 03:40 AM
Sorry brain not working !!! a bit too early in the morning
fastlanephil
Dec 23, 2007, 07:17 PM
I think larger screen iMacs are inevitable. I would say a 32" is the most likely to fit the consumer entertainment center standard. I have a HP 22" which is spanning from my 20" imac that rotates for a 1680 vertical view. It's very Nice!
Prices will continue to head downward for displays
But I think 32" will be it for the iMac form factor as it is currently designed.
Don't forget how much the Apple 22" was when it first was released. Wasn't it $3999.00?
Big-TDI-Guy
Dec 23, 2007, 07:29 PM
I don't know if it was the 22" - but I saw an Apple Cinema display in Frys Electronics loooong ago. I can't remember the exact cost - I only remember that it costed MORE than the car I had - and distinctly remembering "if only I could afford an Apple".
My how times haven't changed. (I have my Apples via Debt - You're Welcome Visa...)
ivan1234
Dec 25, 2007, 02:59 AM
highly doubt it, it will be way too expensive and i think people that are willing to spend this much money would prefer to buy the apple monitor as is so it can be used with other machines and/or sold off later.
Digital Skunk
Dec 25, 2007, 11:17 AM
It's very possible in my opinion. When the G4 Lamp shade first got 20" everyone thought it was huge, and it cost about as much as the 24" does now. So in another year or two I can see a 30" iMac coming out that would have a whole new design to it that may be around $2400.
Maybe something like this:
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For those that know me and are thinking that I post these way too often, sorry, but it's the most original design I have EVER seen, not a retouching of some current Apple tech in Photoshop.
Big-TDI-Guy
Dec 25, 2007, 12:23 PM
Well, what I want is a lot more realistic than that mockup.
If you could find someone who could make that LCD alone - the aerospace industry will pay you in the billions for it - as they're trying, and have yet to really succeed.
Digital Skunk
Dec 25, 2007, 03:49 PM
Well, what I want is a lot more realistic than that mockup.
If you could find someone who could make that LCD alone - the aerospace industry will pay you in the billions for it - as they're trying, and have yet to really succeed.
They have some examples of transparent displays on the web. Some are here:
http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/16930/transparent-display/
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/oled4.htm
http://www.oled-info.com/tags/transparent_oleds
Not that this mockup is realistic, because none of them are or they are terrible, and this one is OLD, right after the time Apple was switching to the G5 processor and the new Apple Cinema Displays. In my opinion though, it's one that is actually very creative and unique.
Now mockup artists claim that they try to make a new computer look practical for current technology and manufacturing techniques, but that just isn't the case.
ADent
Dec 26, 2007, 02:40 AM
Make your own - mount a MacBookPro to the back of a 30" ACD and voila - the 30" iMac.
128k
Dec 26, 2007, 11:07 AM
You won't see a 30" imac until apple can source a suitably crappy glossy display for them. Fortunately most 30" lcd's currently on the market are too nice for an ijunk incarnation, even the lowly dell which only prduces 90% gamut
sk8ordie
Dec 26, 2007, 12:18 PM
Pretty Slick! If one ever came out for ~ $2400 I would definitely swipe the ol credit card!
It's very possible in my opinion. When the G4 Lamp shade first got 20" everyone thought it was huge, and it cost about as much as the 24" does now. So in another year or two I can see a 30" iMac coming out that would have a whole new design to it that may be around $2400.
Maybe something like this:
95360
95361
95362
95363
For those that know me and are thinking that I post these way too often, sorry, but it's the most original design I have EVER seen, not a retouching of some current Apple tech in Photoshop.
jnc
Dec 26, 2007, 04:10 PM
Reminds me of this:
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/01/ces-dell-concept.jpg
GASP IT'S DELL. Not an AIO but sharing the same kind of design approach. And "real"!
http://tinyurl.com/y2xost
Digital Skunk
Dec 26, 2007, 08:33 PM
Reminds me of this:
GASP IT'S DELL. Not an AIO but sharing the same kind of design approach. And "real"!
http://tinyurl.com/y2xost
I have seen that, and it's by far one of the best designed displays since the ACD. If Dell mass produced that and didn't put it on a flimsy plastic stand and gave it FW400 or 800 ports it would be sitting next to my future Mac Pro.
jnc
Dec 27, 2007, 08:18 AM
I'm hoping CES and Macworld bring us some new displays!
Big-TDI-Guy
Dec 27, 2007, 06:54 PM
They have some examples of transparent displays on the web. Some are here:
http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/16930/transparent-display/
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/oled4.htm
http://www.oled-info.com/tags/transparent_oleds
Not that this mockup is realistic, because none of them are or they are terrible, and this one is OLD, right after the time Apple was switching to the G5 processor and the new Apple Cinema Displays. In my opinion though, it's one that is actually very creative and unique.
Now mockup artists claim that they try to make a new computer look practical for current technology and manufacturing techniques, but that just isn't the case.
Got me excited for a second there. No, it can't be oled. No billions for that.
I can't get into WHY oleds won't work (seriously), because I might actually get in trouble. :rolleyes:
But if they could make an LCD with a contrast ratio greater than 10,000:1 AND completely see-through, you might have a winner. ;)
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