Thegenious of naming Mac OS 10 with an X

[ibilly]

Is anybody firmiliar with the tenth ammendment , or [B] X [B] in Roman Numerals? "Powers not delegated to the federal government are reserved for the states and the people." Is anyone else seeing any parallels? Suppose that the system is the federal governent... catching on? The Story: In my US Hist. text book, the tenth ammendment is always referred to as Ammendment X, as it was in my previous textbooks. This is not a normal textbook, but one written by a Harvard Professor for advanced college classes, and AP in Highschool. back to the analogy: anything that is not specifically governed by the system (federal government) is delegated to administrators/usere (states) through the terminal, contorlled by 'the people' Just noticed this and found it quite interesting... oh yeay, X is also a lot cooler thana 10 :p

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by ibilly
Is anybody firmiliar with the tenth ammendment , or [B] X [B] in Roman Numerals? "Powers not delegated to the federal government are reserved for the states and the people." Is anyone else seeing any parallels? Suppose that the system is the federal governent... catching on? The Story: In my US Hist. text book, the tenth ammendment is always referred to as Ammendment X, as it was in my previous textbooks. This is not a normal textbook, but one written by a Harvard Professor for advanced college classes, and AP in Highschool. back to the analogy: anything that is not specifically governed by the system (federal government) is delegated to administrators/usere (states) through the terminal, contorlled by 'the people' Just noticed this and found it quite interesting... oh yeay, X is also a lot cooler thana 10 :p this seems about as tenuous as suggesting that shakespeare's plays were intended to raise the issue of homosexual rights, but OK.... ;)

[ibilly]

well, i just made a little connection in my head, and thought that others might agree
if u dont want to post, i'd appriciate a positive/ negative rating, just for curiousity's sake...

[mnkeybsness]

maybe i would consider anything you had said about this had you spelled "genius" right in the title :rolleyes:

[ibilly]

by the way, the reate this thread is just at the very bottom of the bage, rate 1-5

[shadowfax]

i dunno man, i only vaguely see the connection. i'm not a big states' rights advocate, anyway.

you want me to rate the thread? i don't think i ever have. i've certainly never paid any attention to that sort of thing.

[LimeLite]

This just reminded me of how, in high school, I used to hate when teachers gathered all this symbolism from books and talked about how "when the author said this, he was trying to portray the blah blah blah..." I was always like, HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW? I mean, maybe when the author wrote something, he just meant what he wrote. I doubt that every author ever took hours on each sentence making sure it had some special meaning. It just always frustrated me, cause I know how pissed off I'd be if I was a writer and went to a class where a teacher was teaching my book and started telling the students something that I wasn't trying to say at all.

[baby duck monge]

Originally posted by LimeLite
This just reminded me of how, in high school, I used to hate when teachers gathered all this symbolism from books and talked about how "when the author said this, he was trying to portray the blah blah blah..." I was always like, HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW? I mean, maybe when the author wrote something, he just meant what he wrote. I doubt that every author ever took hours on each sentence making sure it had some special meaning. It just always frustrated me, cause I know how pissed off I'd be if I was a writer and went to a class where a teacher was teaching my book and started telling the students something that I wasn't trying to say at all.

YEAH!

i just thought the deviation from arabic to roman numerals was to emphasize the huge change between the two operating systems and to help with publicity/hype. but i guess that could just be me...

/ cynicism

[Macpoops]

Originally posted by LimeLite
This just reminded me of how, in high school, I used to hate when teachers gathered all this symbolism from books and talked about how "when the author said this, he was trying to portray the blah blah blah..." I was always like, HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW? I mean, maybe when the author wrote something, he just meant what he wrote. I doubt that every author ever took hours on each sentence making sure it had some special meaning. It just always frustrated me, cause I know how pissed off I'd be if I was a writer and went to a class where a teacher was teaching my book and started telling the students something that I wasn't trying to say at all.

Yeah i was the kid asking that exact same question. The reply was usually something along the lines of "it's generally agreed upon". Well You didn't know (insert dead author here)

[patrick0brien]

Originally posted by baby duck monge
YEAH!

i just thought the deviation from arabic to roman numerals was to emphasize the huge change between the two operating systems and to help with publicity/hype. but i guess that could just be me...

/ cynicism

-baby duck monge

Well that, and there is an informal standard that most UNIX's have an "X" somewhere in the name. AIX, IRIX, HPUX, etc.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by patrick0brien
-baby duck monge

Well that, and there is an informal standard that most UNIX's have an "X" somewhere in the name. AIX, IRIX, HPUX, etc. i dunno man. where's the X in "BSD?"

[patrick0brien]

Originally posted by shadowfax
i dunno man. where's the X in "BSD?"

-shadowfax

:p

I said informal! You could have gone for the vein and said "What about Solaris?"

Oh, I forgot AUX and POSIX.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by patrick0brien
-shadowfax

:p

I said informal! You could have gone for the vein and said "What about Solaris?"

Oh, I forgot AUX and POSIX. yeah, but they didn't copy AIX, POSIX, HPUX, or IRIX. they copied BSD :p

[revenuee]

Originally posted by LimeLite
This just reminded me of how, in high school, I used to hate when teachers gathered all this symbolism from books and talked about how "when the author said this, he was trying to portray the blah blah blah..." I was always like, HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW? I mean, maybe when the author wrote something, he just meant what he wrote. I doubt that every author ever took hours on each sentence making sure it had some special meaning. It just always frustrated me, cause I know how pissed off I'd be if I was a writer and went to a class where a teacher was teaching my book and started telling the students something that I wasn't trying to say at all.

I asked that in Highschool once, prarticulary when we we're discussing shakespeare - the response was

"i wouldn't be suprised if there is no simbolism in Hamlet, but if that was really true i would be out of a job"

However, writing is an artform in itself. Although some art is created for sole aesthetic appeal, most artists when creating work, do have a symbolic meaning in mind, usuall social commentary. This holds true for most writers aswell. Just as the painter won't tell you what he's commenting on in his painting, a writer won't come out and plainly say what his book is commenting on. It is up to the reader to interpret the message.

Although i agree with you about the writer not thinking about every line and english teacher saying that it's agreed upon was very close minded. It is about personal interpretation, and if you didn't get anything from the book, then the writer failed as conveying his message to everyone.

But it is close minded to say that there is no message at all, even if you yourself don't see it. Good writing, is all about these hidden messages. This is even true in film and script work, listen to Sodenberg, Burten, Copella, or Spealberg talk about their work and the script in interviews... they always talk about "this representing that, and that being a commentery on this".

And although i personally feel that the whole Tenth Ammendment idea is a little far fetched. I still applaud ibilly for coming up wth something. Personally i could see at as being X marks the spot of a great treasure, and a big treasure means power, And thats what you get with OS X - great power.

[sonofslim]

and don't think for a minute that they didn't consider how it sounds when you pronounce the X as "ex" and not "ten." that's marketing for you.

[Arielle]

Hey all y'all-
So much critical reply! I think it's a cool bit of trivia!

>=--Arielle--->

[tomf87]

Originally posted by shadowfax
yeah, but they didn't copy AIX, POSIX, HPUX, or IRIX. they copied BSD :p

The Nokia IPSO routing OS was copied from BSD, until they found that the Linux kernel could route packets faster. D'oh!

Now, they came out with IPSO-SX which is based off Linux. I wonder when/if BSD will triumph again.

[revenuee]

Originally posted by sonofslim
and don't think for a minute that they didn't consider how it sounds when you pronounce the X as "ex" and not "ten." that's marketing for you.

EXactly

[patrick0brien]

Originally posted by Arielle
Hey all y'all-
So much critical reply! I think it's a cool bit of trivia!

>=--Arielle--->

-Arielle

You're right, of course, we do tend to take thing a bit too seriously around here.