View Full Version : Arnold wins...
pseudobrit
Oct 8, 2003, 06:29 AM
With less votes than people who voted against the recall...
:confused:
California is seriously ****ed up.
How soon will the Cali. GOP be looking to kill the recall law now that one of their own is in office? It's only a matter of months until Arnold is recalled.
vwcruisn
Oct 8, 2003, 06:42 AM
http://www.robbieconal.com/images/artburns/artburns_large/58_illustration_arnold.jpg
Mr. Anderson
Oct 8, 2003, 07:16 AM
'I am the govenator!'
Gary Coleman got 12k votes too, damn silliness....
Only time will tell what will happen, I just hope it doesn't get worse - and next summer will be interesting with the power issues. I wonder if he'll be able to get things on track with that and avoid blackouts....
D
Zaid
Oct 8, 2003, 07:42 AM
Where does the new govenor elect stand on issues such as immigration, healthcare, education, the energy situation, gay rights, etc ?
Does he have a particular stand ? or is it a was it a 'what do you want to hear today' platform?
Dont Hurt Me
Oct 8, 2003, 08:04 AM
well all you tax me i love it democrats are crying again. i think you all know where Arnie stands on the car tax issue and that will be the first of many Davis's bad idea's to go. Congrats Arnold! a moderate republican maybe the rest of the country will learn we are sick of the extremes from both sides.
zimv20
Oct 8, 2003, 02:38 PM
i see issa got 483 votes. he spent over $3300 per vote.
Originally posted by pseudobrit
With less votes than people who voted against the recall...
:confused:
California is seriously ****ed up.
How soon will the Cali. GOP be looking to kill the recall law now that one of their own is in office? It's only a matter of months until Arnold is recalled.
I don't know where you got your Info but here is the latest vote count from the Sec. of State office
Recall
Yes 4,273,529
No 3,507,933
Votes for Arnold 3,624,154
So clearly Arnold got more votes than the votes cast against the recall.
Also note that Arnold got more votes than Davis did in the election last year and a higher %
Davis in 2002 3,469,025 47.4%
Arnold in 2003 3,624,154 48.1%
zimv20
Oct 8, 2003, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by KCK
Davis in 2002 3,469,025 47.4%
Arnold in 2003 3,624,154 48.1%
anyone know why schwarzenegger didn't run in the general election?
Originally posted by zimv20
anyone know why schwarzenegger didn't run in the general election?
It would have been hard for a moderate republican like Arnold too win the CA republican primary. Richard Riordon ( sp) was the moderate republican in 2002 and Davis spent a ton of money on negative Ads about Riordon during the republican primary. Basically Davis hand picked who he would run against in the general election to increase his chances of winning.
IJ Reilly
Oct 8, 2003, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by zimv20
anyone know why schwarzenegger didn't run in the general election?
Because he probably could not win the nomination. This election was ideal for Schwartzenegger. He didn't have to get past the social and religious conservative gate-keepers in the Republican state organization, and because of the length of the campaign, didn't need to submit himself to much scrutiny on personal and political matters. This election was tailor-made for a celebrity candidacy.
manzanita
Oct 8, 2003, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Dont Hurt Me
well all you tax me i love it democrats are crying again. i think you all know where Arnie stands on the car tax issue and that will be the first of many Davis's bad idea's to go. Congrats Arnold! a moderate republican maybe the rest of the country will learn we are sick of the extremes from both sides.
Do you have any idea why we're in this mess to begin with? Excuse me, I'm not a tax-and-spend Democrat, but I also don't want to get screwed over by Pete Wilson's cronies (and hence, by Arnold) again. This has nothing to do with the car tax, and everything to do with Enron and energy deregulation putting this state into the financial mess that we're in.
mactastic
Oct 8, 2003, 04:23 PM
Now lets see what Schwartzenegger can do. He's made an awful lot of promises to cut taxes here and not cut spending there. I forsee a tax increase in the near future, blamed on Davis, and then a very tough time getting a budget passed next summer. The Democrats are in a position to stall anything they feel like to embarass Arnold, and are not likely to feel terribly inclined to help him out on his legislative priorities. It will be interesting to see how the first 100 days of Arnold will be. I wonder if he will be able to stem the bloodletting from the school budgets.
As a side note, the poor prison guards association people aren't going to have a friendly ear in the govenors mansion anymore. I wonder who Arnolds biggest givers will be...
pseudobrit
Oct 8, 2003, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by KCK
I don't know where you got your Info but here is the latest vote count from the Sec. of State office
Recall
Yes 4,273,529
No 3,507,933
Votes for Arnold 3,624,154
So clearly Arnold got more votes than the votes cast against the recall.
Earlier this morning the spread was about 100,000 votes the other way.
By the way, the 3.5 million voters who didn't want the recall of Davis are more than enough to initiate another one against Schwarzenegger.
mactastic
Oct 8, 2003, 05:02 PM
Oh goodie.. another $30,000,000 recall is just what our state needs.
I'll at least be happy when my states govenor is back at work every day instead of on the campaign trail.
IJ Reilly
Oct 8, 2003, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by mactastic
As a side note, the poor prison guards association people aren't going to have a friendly ear in the govenors mansion anymore. I wonder who Arnolds biggest givers will be...
Real estate developers and industry so far. The usual suspects.
Originally posted by pseudobrit
Earlier this morning the spread was about 100,000 votes the other way.
By the way, the 3.5 million voters who didn't want the recall of Davis are more than enough to initiate another one against Schwarzenegger.
Well a lot of the people who voted against the recall did so on the principal ( ie why recall someone when they haven't done anything, in their opinion) If these people really stand on principal then they should be against recalling Arnold.
The latest numbers with 100% of the precincts reporting
Recall
Yes 4,415,341 55.4%
No 3,559,400 44.6%
Arnold 3,743,393 48.7%
Davis ( in 2002) 3,469,025 47.4%
Desertrat
Oct 8, 2003, 08:18 PM
Recall
Yes 4,415,341 55.4%
No 3,559,400 44.6%
Those percentages in a Presidential election would most likely mean a clean sweep of the Electoral College.
Commonly called a "Landslide".
Seems to me a significant majority of Californians thought of The Gray Man as a truly serious (bleep)-up.
Since we know from generations of candidates telling us that Vox Populi, Vox Dei, we also know that the all-wise electorate has chose the best man as its new leader. It IS the Democratic process, you know...
:), 'Rat
IJ Reilly
Oct 8, 2003, 09:16 PM
AKA, "We get exactly the government we deserve."
Dros
Oct 9, 2003, 12:55 AM
Who do you think would have won is Gray and Arnold went head to head? It is difficult to say for certain, but some people that voted for Arnold would have preferred Gray, and some people that voted "no" on the recall would have preferred Arnold head to head. I wonder if anyone is polling on that? The "no" votes and "Arnold" votes were pretty close in number, so most people can probably rationalize who they wanted to win as winning head to head.
Sayhey
Oct 9, 2003, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by Dont Hurt Me
well all you tax me i love it democrats are crying again. i think you all know where Arnie stands on the car tax issue and that will be the first of many Davis's bad idea's to go. Congrats Arnold! a moderate republican maybe the rest of the country will learn we are sick of the extremes from both sides.
Everybody is against the car tax, but nobody, including Arnold will say how the 4 billion in short fall will be replaced with its repeal. Arnold campaigned on his celebrity and not being a "politican"; now he will actually have to come up with some answers to some very difficult questions. He hasn't given me any reason to believe he is capable of that task. He has a very short "honeymoon" available to him in this overwhelmingly Democratic state.
IJ Reilly
Oct 9, 2003, 11:12 AM
I don't understand why everyone is so up in arms about the "car tax" anyway. It's a flat tax. You know, the kind conservatives are supposed to favor? And to correct the constant spew of misinformation, if the "car tax" was "Davis' idea," he must have had it when he was a tiny infant, since it's been around since the 1930s. It was only lowered temporarily a few years ago when the state was awash in money, with the explicit proviso that it would return to the original rate if the state couldn't find the funds elsewhere, which is obviously the case now.
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