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jnc
Jan 8, 2008, 06:49 PM
Apple fans wishing for a Mac desktop that was at least comparable in spec to the iMacs, but without a built in display have finally had their prayers answered!

Today, Apple introduced a new, fully configurable quad-core tower, with 4 hard drive bays supporting up to 4TB of space, and RAM expansion up to a whopping 32GB.

It ships today from $2,299 - the same price point as the high-end 24" iMac - and offers a base configuration of 2.8GHz Quad-Core Xeon processors, with 2GB of RAM and ATi Radeon 2600 XT capable of running 2 dual-link 30" Apple Cinema Displays.

You can read more about it here: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nnmm=browse&node=home/desktop/imac (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nnmm=browse&mco=CE229723&node=home/shop_mac/family/mac_pro)

:)



Mindflux
Jan 8, 2008, 07:02 PM
You made a non-funny.

:o

Jasonbot
Jan 8, 2008, 07:03 PM
I thought the same thing. We just need to find out if this beast has 1 or two processor slots?

PlaceofDis
Jan 8, 2008, 07:04 PM
You made a non-funny.

:o

it is funny. and its the truth.

its the closest anyone is going to get to a 'headless' imac.

netdog
Jan 8, 2008, 07:05 PM
Actually, this is the new headless xMac. I call it the Mac Pro Jr.

dukebound85
Jan 8, 2008, 07:06 PM
isnt this what people want? a customizable tower that isnt crazy expensive as some mp models?

i say good move

gkarris
Jan 8, 2008, 07:17 PM
not funny... :(

(angrily runs off, screaminig...)

killerrobot
Jan 8, 2008, 07:22 PM
Apple fans wishing for a Mac desktop that was at least comparable in spec to the iMacs, but without a built in display have finally had their prayers answered!

Today, Apple introduced a new, fully configurable quad-core tower, with 4 hard drive bays supporting up to 4TB of space, and RAM expansion up to a whopping 32GB.

It ships today from $2,299 - the same price point as the high-end 24" iMac - and offers a base configuration of 2.8GHz Quad-Core Xeon processors, with 2GB of RAM and ATi Radeon 2600 XT capable of running 2 dual-link 30" Apple Cinema Displays.

You can read more about it here: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nnmm=browse&node=home/desktop/imac (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nnmm=browse&mco=CE229723&node=home/shop_mac/family/mac_pro)

:)

Not seeing where you are getting the 2,229 price when the base price is 2,799 :confused:?

dukebound85
Jan 8, 2008, 07:23 PM
Not seeing where you are getting the 2,229 price when the base price is 2,799 :confused:?

you have to downgrade the cpu to a quad core. knocks 500 bucks off

jnc
Jan 8, 2008, 07:23 PM
Not seeing where you are getting the 2,229 price when the base price is 2,799 :confused:?

Suggested configuration is the default - change the 2 x Quad core 2.8 to 1 x Quad core 2.8 for $500 price dive!

killerrobot
Jan 8, 2008, 07:26 PM
Suggested configuration is the default - change the 2 x Quad core 2.8 to 1 x Quad core 2.8 for $500 price dive!

Gotcha, pretty misleading when it says that 8 cores is the standard.

CJRhoades
Jan 8, 2008, 07:28 PM
The price of 2,299 is an even more stripped down version of the base model. If you click to configure it, you can cut off $500 from knocking it down to only 1 quad-core processor.

sushi
Jan 8, 2008, 07:29 PM
Apple fans wishing for a Mac desktop that was at least comparable in spec to the iMacs, but without a built in display have finally had their prayers answered!
Nice! :)

This also reinforces the argument that there will not be a mini Tower.

Gotcha, pretty misleading when it says that 8 cores is the standard.
But 8 Cores is the standard minimum configuration.

You have to BTO to drop it down. So in this case it makes sense -- at least to me.

CJRhoades
Jan 8, 2008, 07:30 PM
Why are you calling this a Mac Pro Jr.? It's just the new version of the Mac Pro...

aquajet
Jan 8, 2008, 07:34 PM
Why are you calling this a Mac Pro Jr.? It's just the new version of the Mac Pro...

Because real Mac Pros have 8 cores. Anything less is just embarrassing, really.

CJRhoades
Jan 8, 2008, 07:37 PM
Apple fans wishing for a Mac desktop that was at least comparable in spec to the iMacs, but without a built in display have finally had their prayers answered!
:)

Um.. ya... Mac Pro has been out for a while and it's bottom model has always been more powerful than the top end iMac. So their prayers have been answered for a long time.... Not to mention that Mac Pro has always been without a display so it's not a new idea.

CJRhoades
Jan 8, 2008, 07:40 PM
Because real Mac Pros have 8 cores. Anything less is just embarrassing, really.

What don't you people understand? IT STILL IS THE REAL MAC PRO. The 4-core model is still extremely powerful. It's more powerful than the top-of-the-line iMac.

aquajet
Jan 8, 2008, 07:42 PM
What don't you people understand? IT STILL IS THE REAL MAC PRO. The 4-core model is still extremely powerful. It's more powerful than the top-of-the-line iMac.

Take a chill pill. I was just kidding. ;)

CJRhoades
Jan 8, 2008, 07:43 PM
Sorry. It's just little things like that make me want to pull my hair out....

jnc
Jan 8, 2008, 07:48 PM
Because real Mac Pros have 8 cores. Anything less is just embarrassing, really.

Lol. Scandalous ;)

Um.. ya... Mac Pro has been out for a while and it's bottom model has always been more powerful than the top end iMac. So their prayers have been answered for a long time.... Not to mention that Mac Pro has always been without a display so it's not a new idea.

Yeah... Mac Pros have been out for a while. Not at that price and spec though.

The former Quad core model was $2499 with standard 2x512 RAM and 2.66GHz Woodcrest, while the new Quad core is $2299 with standard 2x1GB and 2.8 Harpertowns and whatever else.

QCassidy352
Jan 8, 2008, 07:50 PM
the previous generation of mac pro also had a "downgrade" option that was priced the same I believe. So if this is the "headless imac" then the 2.0 Ghz mac pro was also. It was a full quad core and everything. Really. Honest.

killerrobot
Jan 8, 2008, 07:51 PM
But 8 Cores is the standard minimum configuration.

You have to BTO to drop it down. So in this case it makes sense -- at least to me.

Yeah, it makes sense after the fact...but if 8 is standard that makes 4 substandard. So Apple's now making a substandard MP - who's gonna buy anything substandard.;)

adrianblaine
Jan 8, 2008, 07:54 PM
Yeah, it makes sense after the fact...but if 8 is standard that makes 4 substandard. So Apple's now making a substandard MP - who's gonna buy anything substandard.;)

You'd be surprised at what people will pay good money for (or not surprised...)

jnc
Jan 8, 2008, 07:56 PM
the previous generation of mac pro also had a "downgrade" option that was priced the same I believe. So if this is the "headless imac" then the 2.0 Ghz mac pro was also. It was a full quad core and everything. Really. Honest.

Indeed. $2199. This one's a much better buy though, at only $100 more.

jnc
Jan 8, 2008, 07:56 PM
Yeah, it makes sense after the fact...but if 8 is standard that makes 4 substandard. So Apple's now making a substandard MP - who's gonna buy anything substandard.;)

It's not "standard", it's "suggested" ;)

Mindflux
Jan 8, 2008, 08:12 PM
it is funny. and its the truth.

its the closest anyone is going to get to a 'headless' imac.

I'd think that'd be a Mac Mini. Show me a 4 core iMac. (downgrading Mac Pro).

CWallace
Jan 8, 2008, 08:32 PM
Apple fans wishing for a Mac desktop that was at least comparable in spec to the iMacs, but without a built in display have finally had their prayers answered!

It ships today from $2,299 - the same price point as the high-end 24" iMac.

And yet folks will whine that you have to spend all that money for a 23" ACD and get jipped an inch, to boot. :)

Not to mention they probably want a $1299 price point as opposed to $2299. :D

themoonisdown09
Jan 8, 2008, 11:01 PM
I was going to get the high-end iMac after MacWorld, but now seeing this... I'm thinking about changing my mind. My only problem is that I don't have a monitor laying around.

McGiord
Jan 8, 2008, 11:16 PM
Since when more than $2000 is a headless iMac??????????????????????????????????

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
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jnc
Jan 8, 2008, 11:52 PM
You can justify the Mac Pro at $2299 due to the power and scope for expansion, and you can do the same for the iMac due to it being an all in one, space and energy saving solution.

Then they each have their drawbacks - such as NO display versus a fixed 24" glossy one, harder to replace and/or repair.

Decisions, decisions!

McGiord
Jan 9, 2008, 12:26 AM
you can do the same for the iMac due to it being an all in one, space and energy saving solution.


You are way off with the math: an iMac without the monitor more than $2K???
Are you serious...or you are using non US Currency??

Headless we'll be anyone of us (not the mac) if we are paying that amount of money for a MacMini kind of mac.
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timestamp
Jan 9, 2008, 02:03 AM
It is only about $1850 or so in the ADC store... Student ADC anyone!? ;)

jnc
Jan 9, 2008, 09:57 AM
You are way off with the math: an iMac without the monitor more than $2K???
Are you serious...or you are using non US Currency??

Headless we'll be anyone of us (not the mac) if we are paying that amount of money for a MacMini kind of mac.

Wha? I'm talking about the most affordable Mac Pro being comparable in price (but better in spec) to the current stock high end Mac.

The "advantage" of the iMac is you get a fixed display and more compact design for "free" but take a hit power and expansion wise.

Squonk
Jan 9, 2008, 10:22 AM
Wha? I'm talking about the most affordable Mac Pro being comparable in price (but better in spec) to the current stock high end Mac.

The "advantage" of the iMac is you get a fixed display and more compact design for "free" but take a hit power and expansion wise.

When I was thinking that there was a gap between the Mac Mini and the Mac Pro for a headless mac, I never considered comparing a 24" iMac vs a base Mac Pro. But you do bring up an interesting point when looking at the dollars involved.

netdog
Jan 9, 2008, 10:24 AM
So give the Mac Pro Jr. (complete with chicklet keyboard) its due and welcome the new headless xMac.

WildPalms
Jan 9, 2008, 10:25 AM
Take a chill pill. I was just kidding. ;)

and again, another not funny.

jnc
Jan 9, 2008, 10:34 AM
So give the Mac Pro Jr. (complete with chicklet keyboard) its due and welcome the new headless xMac.

Gah, I noticed the inclusion of that new keyboard as well. Will the MacBook Pro be the last to fall? Seems like I'm going to have to stock up on my preferred deep-travel-clicky-clacky-easy-clean-wireless-with-number-pad white keyboards of yore before they're extinct.

Luap
Jan 9, 2008, 11:10 AM
Crap post, not funny. Punch yourself in the head and dont do it again.

Jasonbot
Jan 9, 2008, 11:29 AM
Crap post, not funny. Punch yourself in the head and dont do it again.

It's a headless model...:p

jnc
Jan 9, 2008, 12:13 PM
Crap post, not funny. Punch yourself in the head and dont do it again.

Crap, but somehow still worth your time. Life much?

akm3
Jan 9, 2008, 01:43 PM
I think the 4 core Mac Pro is *PERFECT* . Easily upgradable. Real video card. Real desktop parts. Don't have to throw away a monitor.

To cinch the deal, all I need is confirmation that the 4core ships with an empty slot that I can later dump another 4core into to have a 'real' 8 core Mac Pro.

This *is* the headless iMac I've been dreaming of, but of course it is a 'high end' iMac. Of course I'd love a $1500 headless iMac too, but I think the 4 core Mac Pro will make a great replacement for my 1.83 Core (1) Duo Mac Mini :) :) :) It can do home theater duty now.

-Allen

McGiord
Jan 9, 2008, 02:54 PM
iMac = all in one
Mac mini = lowest price without monitor
MacPro = top of the line

Headless = without monitor

xMac what you are trying to get


In other order of ideas: using your criteria I'll should be paying around 50% more for a Ferrari without its instrument panel
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