DVD+R/+RW Support in Panther

MacRumors · Oct 11, 2003

As followup to a previous story that reported on DVD+R/+RW support in early Panther Builds, it appears Apple is now advertising +R/+RW support on their New Features page.

Apple does not appear to be advertising DVD+R in current machine specs, so it's unclear how much support Apple is providing for these new formats. Many of Apple's newer Macs, however, do contain +R/+RW capable hardware.

dho · Oct 11, 2003

I suppose this is good news.

unfortunately dvd burning isn't to much of an option on my cube anyway

JohnnyUtah · Oct 11, 2003

DVD+R burning works fine on my G5 w/ superdrive using Toast 5.1.4 and OS 10.2.8 (G5).

stefman · Oct 11, 2003

Does anyone know the benefits of +R/+RW as opposed to -R/-RW.

Or is this just to offer more standards?

capacity · Oct 11, 2003

Why's this on Page 2 if it's confirmed?

edit: Oh. It's a less interesting aspect of Panther.

arn · Oct 11, 2003

Originally posted by capacity
Why's this on Page 2 if it's confirmed?

edit: Oh. It's a less interesting aspect of Panther.

well, yeah... it's confirmation... but it's not really clear how Apple is playing this. None of their computers are advertised with +R capabilities. The text could be read as 3rd party +R support.

arn

Analog Kid · Oct 12, 2003

I'm guessing Apple won't advertise +R/+RW support on their hardware until Panther is released... At this point it's a latent capability but the hardware doesn't do it until the software supports it.

I don't think they'd consider 3rd party support as "official" until they support it themselves...

Who's the marketing genius who made DVD-R and DVD+R incompatible anyway? Could they make things any more confusing?

redAPPLE · Oct 12, 2003

Re: DVD+R/+RW Support in Panther

Originally posted by Macrumors

Apple does not appear to be advertising DVD+R in current machine specs, so it's unclear how much support Apple is providing for these new formats. Many of Apple's newer Macs, however, do contain +R/+RW capable hardware.

does anyone know, if the new powerbooks (with superdrive) support dvd+r?

the superdrives are only dvd writables right?

BeakerAndGreg · Oct 12, 2003

+r/+rw

Originally posted by stefman
Does anyone know the benefits of +R/+RW as opposed to -R/-RW.

Or is this just to offer more standards?

+r and +rw is supposed to offer better compatability with a wider range of consumer DVD players.

mvc · Oct 12, 2003

Originally posted by Analog Kid
Who's the marketing genius who made DVD-R and DVD+R incompatible anyway? Could they make things any more confusing?

Two major developer alliances at cross purposes IIRC. Microsoft is in one camp and Apple was originally solely in the other. Its just Beta vs VHS again. The only real loser is the consumer.

agdickinson · Oct 12, 2003

+R/+RW + -R/-RW

Hi

I was at local store on Friday and noticed that 10.2.8 was reporting the DVD drive to be a +-RW so I guess some of the new G5's could have a multi format drive in them.

That I believe was in a 1.8 G5 as my local store in the UK does not yet have Dual 2's.

andrew

Stike · Oct 12, 2003

Re: +r/+rw

Originally posted by BeakerAndGreg
+r and +rw is supposed to offer better compatability with a wider range of consumer DVD players.

Nope, in fact, the opposite is true. DVD-R plays on more generic DVD players opposed to DVD+R.

That was the reason why Apple had chosen -R

Generally speaking, +R has some quality improvements to the format, which are not backwards compatible, hence Apple went with DVD-R to provide a maximum acceptance even on the oldest DVD players.

Ptpiz · Oct 12, 2003

Support for DVD-RW

The current mac os 10.2 supports dvd burning for dvd-r and it has GREAT compatability with a lot of DVD players. I have tested DVD+r and DVD+rw and 4 of my clients said that it didn't work for them. DVD-R is much better BUT... thus far on the mac I have not been able to burn DVD-rw, whcih realy pisses me off because; if i make a mistake on burning a DVD and have to re-burn it, I CANT ERASE THE MESSED UP DVD AND RE-WRITE ON IT! So, will panther support DVD-RW so that i can finally fix my mistakes without wasting precious DVDs??

dreamerof · Oct 12, 2003

Re: Support for DVD-RW

Originally posted by Ptpiz
The current mac os 10.2 supports dvd burning for dvd-r and it has GREAT compatability with a lot of DVD players. I have tested DVD+r and DVD+rw and 4 of my clients said that it didn't work for them. DVD-R is much better BUT... thus far on the mac I have not been able to burn DVD-rw, whcih realy pisses me off because; if i make a mistake on burning a DVD and have to re-burn it, I CANT ERASE THE MESSED UP DVD AND RE-WRITE ON IT! So, will panther support DVD-RW so that i can finally fix my mistakes without wasting precious DVDs??

10.2 does support DVD-RW... I use it often.

Ptpiz · Oct 12, 2003

I KNOW!!

I know that 10.2 doesnt support it, BUT WILL PANTHER????

cubist · Oct 12, 2003

On the DVD-RW, I think you have to erase the disk with Disk Utility. Other than that, it behaves just like DVD-R (as CD-RW behaves just like CD-R).

Dho, you can get an internal superdrive for your Cube. Then you'll be able to use iDVD. You may want to beef up your RAM and possibly upgrade the CPU too. It'll cost money, though. Look at http://www.cubeowner.com.

dreamerof · Oct 12, 2003

Re: I KNOW!!

Originally posted by Ptpiz
I know that 10.2 doesnt support it, BUT WILL PANTHER????

OS 10.2 'DOES' support DVD-RW so I would bet that Panther will too. I'd rather doubt that they would remove DVD-RW support.

lewdvig · Oct 12, 2003

...it would be nice if there was a little better support for aftermarket multiformat DVD burners.

Panther discrecording framework is substantially different for Jaguars from a hacked device file perspective.

pjkelnhofer · Oct 12, 2003

iDVD

Will this effect iDVD's incompatibility with external DVD-R drives? Or will it still only work with the "Superdrive"?

MacsRgr8 · Oct 12, 2003

On which hardware does it work then?
I know the Pioneer A06 supports + and - DVD R/RW... is this the drive built in the G5 as SuperDrive?

DaUlf · Oct 12, 2003

Re: Re: DVD+R/+RW Support in Panther

Originally posted by redAPPLE
does anyone know, if the new powerbooks (with superdrive) support dvd+r?

Yeah. I'd also be curious as to whether the new PBs will support this or not. Can anyone pop open the system profiler, get the actual drive name, and do a little research?

bobindashadows · Oct 12, 2003

Re: I KNOW!!

Originally posted by Ptpiz
I know that 10.2 doesnt support it, BUT WILL PANTHER????

This has to be one of the most failed posts I have ever seen in my life. I'm sorry, but after reading your post I now have disdain for all of humanity. Wow.

mvc · Oct 12, 2003

Re: Re: I KNOW!!

Originally posted by bobindashadows
I'm sorry, but after reading your post I now have disdain for all of humanity. Wow.

Hey Bob, we already knew that from your signature

Its a joke BTW!

WM. · Oct 12, 2003

Re: Re: DVD+R/+RW Support in Panther

Originally posted by redAPPLE
does anyone know, if the new powerbooks (with superdrive) support dvd+r?

the superdrives are only dvd writables right?

My dad's 15" AlBook reports that it has a Matsushita UJ-816. Note that all previous PowerBooks with SuperDrives had UJ-815's with a variety of firmware revisions.

A quick Google search reveals that these new PowerBooks seem to be the first time anyone's ever heard of an 816, and that no one's found any significant differences between the 815 and 816 yet (although perhaps this mysterious 816 only supports 4x CD-RW burning?).

FWIW
WM

edit: All that to say that, as far as anyone's been able to figure out, neither the 815 nor the 816 supports DVD+R[W].

jettredmont · Oct 12, 2003

Originally posted by Analog Kid
Who's the marketing genius who made DVD-R and DVD+R incompatible anyway? Could they make things any more confusing?

That would be HP.

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