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MacRumors
Jan 14, 2008, 06:04 PM
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MacTech benchmarks (http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.24/24.03/Office2008Benchmark/) the new Mac Office 2008 and provides the following conclusion:
In general, Office 2008 is faster than Office 2004 when run on Intel Macs. And, on the PowerPC (represented by our PowerBook G4), it certainly runs "well enough" albeit marginally slower.

Microsoft hosted a day-long conference (http://www.macworldexpo.com/conference_program/specialty-programs/day-office-microsoft-office-2008) on the new Office 2008. Attendees will reportedly receive a free copy of Office.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/01/14/mac-office-2008-benchmarks/)

Eidorian
Jan 14, 2008, 06:06 PM
I can't wait for it to trickle down to volume licensees. I'm still working with some really old G4s since some users don't budge and use their grant money.

I'll more then likely be using Office 2004 and 2008 on my department installations for some time.

Peace
Jan 14, 2008, 06:07 PM
That graph doesn't make sense.

It looks like 2008 runs better on a G4 than on Intel. What's the percentage represent ?

Eidorian
Jan 14, 2008, 06:09 PM
That graph doesn't make sense.

It looks like 2008 runs better on a G4 than on Intel. What's the percentage represent ?FTA

Figure 1: Office 2008 vs. Office 2004
(shorter is faster)

*pats Peace*

when is this realesed in stores?


The lower the percent the betterhttp://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=97531&d=1200212729

Tomorrow!

Eric Lewis
Jan 14, 2008, 06:10 PM
when is this realesed in stores>



The lower the percent the better

Peace
Jan 14, 2008, 06:10 PM
FTA



*pats Peace*


hehehe

Thanks..I'm losing it..

arn
Jan 14, 2008, 06:28 PM
when is this realesed in stores>



In stores tomorrow (tuesday)

arn

CWallace
Jan 14, 2008, 06:31 PM
I'm quite pleased with Office 2008 and I'd have upgraded to it even without MS' "SuperSuite" deal incentive.

Eric Lewis
Jan 14, 2008, 06:33 PM
In stores tomorrow (tuesday)

arn

THis is more exicting then Macworld...i better line up out side my local best buy........(NAWT)

gusapple
Jan 14, 2008, 06:42 PM
In stores tomorrow (tuesday)

arn

In my mailbox next week!:)

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=97531&d=1200212729

Tomorrow!
If the MacBooks aren't obsolete by then!

speakerwizard
Jan 14, 2008, 06:44 PM
still only a carbon app though.

impierced
Jan 14, 2008, 09:56 PM
still only a carbon app though.

What shocks me most is that it's pretty much Office 2004 (minus a few features) as a Universal application - and STILL Carbon. All this time and it's still the same pig, just with new lipstick.

Amazing... simply amazing. :eek:

phytonix
Jan 14, 2008, 11:09 PM
What? It is still carbon? It looks like cocoa....
what did they do to hide that??

yeroen
Jan 14, 2008, 11:30 PM
still only a carbon app though.

The only group Carbon vs Cocoa would make a difference to are developers writing extensions or plugins, which is moot because there's no "Office API" in OS X (apart from Automator Actions, .NET doesn't exist for OS X). To the end user, it shouldn't make any difference whether it's Carbon or Cocoa. Compiled code is compiled code. Carbon is going to be around for a long while. By the time it disappears from Apple's OS entirely, Office will have moved far beyond it's current incarnation.

Tamara
Jan 15, 2008, 01:02 AM
First Post!

I remember way back to around 1987 or so. Word 4 on my SE/30 (8MHz CPU, 4MB ram) booted in under 4 seconds. So Just how far have we come?:)

RedTomato
Jan 15, 2008, 04:42 AM
Why benchmark a word processor?

Why benchmark a word processor?

This is #1 on my list of things that it is just not worth benchmarking.

MacinDoc
Jan 15, 2008, 05:21 AM
Give us real numbers. I want to know what tasks were used for the benchmarks and how long, in seconds, they took. Whether it took 0.5 seconds or 1 second to do a task in Word has no significance to me, so I'm not sure whether the numbers mean anything to me without seeing the raw data.

Buschmaster
Jan 15, 2008, 07:33 AM
Why is Office more expensive than my operating system?:(

Spanky Deluxe
Jan 15, 2008, 07:42 AM
Not exactly the clearest of graphs.

Surely
Jan 15, 2008, 08:27 AM
This is not an attempt to hijack the thread, but, along with your Office 2008 comments, how about answering this question:

Office 2008 or iWork?

I want to buy either one in the next month, but am having trouble deciding.

Malakas07
Jan 15, 2008, 08:54 AM
No Visual Basic.........No Office 2008 for me.

Pretty much all of the Excel spreadsheets I utilize for work run off of Macro's.

speakerwizard
Jan 15, 2008, 09:36 AM
This is not an attempt to hijack the thread, but, along with your Office 2008 comments, how about answering this question:

Office 2008 or iWork?

I want to buy either one in the next month, but am having trouble deciding.

iwork

prxr13
Jan 15, 2008, 09:51 AM
Looking at that graph, isn't Macoffice 08 running SLOWER on an intel than 2004???? Am I missing something?

MacRy
Jan 15, 2008, 10:06 AM
Looking at that graph, isn't Macoffice 08 running SLOWER on an intel than 2004???? Am I missing something?

Yes you are missing patience it would seem as other posters have indicated that the graph indicates that LOWER is BETTER.

byeehaaw
Jan 15, 2008, 02:25 PM
cant wait to go back to school and get a free copy :cool:

weckart
Jan 15, 2008, 05:15 PM
Office 2008 runs like treacle on PPC according to that graph. Slower than 2004 on every benchmark bar "graphics". Just how much faster would Office 2004 have been over 2008 had it been compiled for Intel instead?

shadowfax
Jan 15, 2008, 11:29 PM
Office 2008 runs like treacle on PPC according to that graph. Slower than 2004 on every benchmark bar "graphics". Just how much faster would Office 2004 have been over 2008 had it been compiled for Intel instead?

That's a moot point, because it would have required a rewrite--the code was code that you can't just recompile.

I'm not about to complain... it's not that much slower on the G4, and the perception will be that it's faster, given the interface speed improvements. That's fine. Sounds like both the speed overall and the perceived speed will be well improved on Intel machines. That's great. Office 2004 wasn't all that slow to begin with, other than the load time (at least, on my MBP)

smueboy
Jan 15, 2008, 11:59 PM
Why is Office more expensive than my operating system?:(

Because it's Microsoft....