iTunes Canada?

[MacRumors]

Will iTunes Canada come tomorrow? One reader claims this was mentioned on a Canadian television this morning.

Of interest, Puretracks (http://www.puretracks.com/) recently launched in Canada, offering comparable 99-cent music downloads.

Previous rumors (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/07/20030712220408.shtml) indicated that iTunes Music Store for Canada was pushed back until at least September of this year due to licensing restrictions. No further details have emerged, however, since September.

[dho]

Thats interesting

I'm not canadian but i hope i gets released.

very interesting...

[skymac]

That would be nice, i do hope that it comes out soon but im not getting my hopes up. if there was an Itunes canada store, do you guys think apple would still charge 99 cet CAD even with the exchage rate difference?

[68k_575]

[i]do you guys think apple would still charge 99 cet CAD even with the exchage rate difference? [/B]

I wish:(. . .

[djjon]

puretracks.com is absolutley horrible. They only have limited material, it's all in windows media and much of it is more than .99. When they announced it today on Much News he even said its nothing compared to iTunes but its a start. I really hope iTunes Canada comes tomorrow.
Jon

[Freg3000]

Ok, your choice (you can only have 1):

iTunes for Windows
iTunes for Canada

Pick for whichever for whatever reason you'd like.

[FredAkbar]

iTunes for Windows, since either way it doesn't directly affect me, and the Windows version would affect a far greater amount of users.

[jholzner]

Originally posted by Freg3000
Ok, your choice (you can only have 1):

iTunes for Windows
iTunes for Canada

Pick for whichever for whatever reason you'd like.

Why is that? Why not both?

[Panopticon]

I'd like to see the iTMS come to Canada tomorrow — we could finally start to use that music store part of iTunes!

I'd pay $1.31 CDN for a song that I liked enough to download. It would be nice if they kept it at 99¢, but no big thing in my opinion. I'd still use it. For the Canadians in the crowd – that's 2¢ more than a Large coffee at Timmy's! It'd be a good way to kick the coffee habit; just buy a song from iTMS every time you're jonesin' for some caffine.

If they did keep the pricing structure static, buying a song in Canada would cost 75¢ US... hmm...

I agree with djjon, Puretracks sucks hard.

[skymac]

Come to think of it apple has made very few remarks about something like this, it will go windows europe the canada shortly after(june)

[mac15]

I'm still waiting for an iTunes Music Store Australia and an iphoto service and well sherlock and everything apple does :)

ah well, like I'd use em anyways

[From Win to Mac]

Go Canada !

That would be great ! And it'll get good airtime on MuchMusic !!

[Freg3000]

Originally posted by jholzner
Why is that? Why not both?

IF you could only have one tomorrow, what would you pick? This is just a way to see how people are feeling the night before the announcement, with a curve ball thrown in there at the end with this rumor.

:D

[Stella]

Bloody well hope so.
:-)

[rodnarms]

My mother mentioned to me just now she saw an Apple Canada rep on the London news saying that Canada would get the iTunes Music Store tommorrow.

Now my mother could have got a PureTracks.com rep mixed with an Apple one. I am sure they mentioned it was similar to iTunes and she could have been confused. However she is adament thats what happened though.

I think there is a good chance it will happen tomorrow given that the record industry in Canada has settled on online sale rights and terms last month. Also that PureTracks has been launched.

iTunes for Windows and Mac in Canada launched tommorrow.

"It's about to get bigger."

[Postal]

If I could only choose one: iTunes Canada, of course. I have a Mac and I'm already interested in some of the albums on the iTMS as-is.

iTunes for Windows would be more significant to the actual public. Given that Apple is dedicating its time to an event, I don't think that they're just going to announce iTunes for Windows, a couple of iPod accessories, and call it a day.

[Stella]

Sorry, as much as I like to, I don't believe it.

Many times, the new service has always had iTunes in the same sentence.

I think a lot more people would have heard that, but I've heard bugger all.

Considering the above, I think its a case of
too early in the morning
+
not had coffee yet

== misheard annoucement

[rodnarms]

Taken this quote from an article in today's National Post - a national paper that rarely publishes hearsy:

"Still, it [Puretracks] likely won't have the Canadian market to itself for long. Industry insiders speculated that it could be only a matter of weeks before a U.S. company starts offering a music downloading service in Canada."

Unless they mean Napster or Pressplay, I think that is Apple folks.

[candan9019]

I hope so. It would be nice to continue using iTMS when/if I move back. It will probably be just the Windows announcement though.

[jimjiminyjim]

Wheee, just confirm this, and move it to front page... and I'll be a happy camper.

[mustang_dvs]

Ah! ha! So it was Canadian subterfuge that has slowed the development of iTMS for Windoze, eh?

Well, I say it's aboot time we put an end to the hold-up and release both.

/They're not even a real country anyway...

[SeaFox]

I actually wonder if there s any truth to this. Consider:

1) The Windows version of iTMS was being held up, by licensing issues with the record labels supposedly. Then recently the labels relaxed their terms with existing Windows compatable stores BuyMusic and the soon to launch MusicMatch store. Giving them both broad rights like those Apple had been seeking.

Relatively soon afterwards, Apple schedules a press event we are about to witness in the nears future, where the Windows version of iTunes, and the iTMS will debut.

2) Many moons ago, the Canadian version of Time Magazine blew the lid off the design of the new iMac hours before Job's keynote to introduce it. They uploaded the web content for the next issue of the magazine (an article about the new iMac, with photos being the cover story) the night before the keynote, spoiling the security which to that point had sucessfully prevented the release of any valid design photos.

[candan9019]

/They're not even a real country anyway...

I hope your joking. I have to listen to remarks like that every day (most worse though). After 11 years I'm begining to not just laugh about it. If you are joking then sorry.

[Squire]

Yeah, I thought that's what the "smiley" option was for. ;)

iTunes for Windows or iTunes Canada, eh?

Well, assuming iTunes for Windows means "iTunes for Windows for Americans" I'd go for iTunes for Canada out of pure selfishness. (I think I still have a valid Canadian credit card.)

Squire

[panphage]

Wouldn't iTunes for Canada have an added and extremely difficult to honor hurdle? Not only would Apple have to negotiate with music rights holders, but they'd also have to fill the ITMS with a bulk of Canadian Content that outweighs content from other countries. Or has the Canadian Gov. given up on that particular oddity?

[Lancetx]

Originally posted by candan9019
They're not even a real country anyway...

I hope your joking. I have to listen to remarks like that every day (most worse though). After 11 years I'm begining to not just laugh about it. If you are joking then sorry.

C'mon now, of course he was joking, it's from the song "Blame Canada" the title of his post. :) It was even up for an Oscar a couple of years back...

[kwajo.com]

I hope this is true, I, and a number of others I know, love to browse through the store, but could never buy, and I think that at $0.99, or even $1.30, we would!!!

as for the CRTC and cancon, I work at a radio station, and we are required to play 30% canadian music, but i think that is only for broadcast material, so it would depend if the CRTC classifies the iTMS as broadcast or a store. if a store I don't know if there are requirements for that at all. anybody work at/for a record store know?

[Tim Flynn]

iTunes for Canada would be great.
iTunes for Windows, I think would be even better.
iTunes for Canada and Windows , Best.

[P Rush]

As much as I HATE windows, apple needs to poke their head more into the wintel world and repair their terrible reputation that they have developed. If this release of the windows itunes is successful and a good portion of windows users stop using winamp (shudder), and also providing that apple comes out with a decent product, then apple will have a positive impact on the windows community.
Also, I am concerned that WMA is too widly used already. It is a battle with ACC and WMA. Although they are competing with the windows digital audio format, it would be a stupid move to not have support for it on the ipod, again, they need to have a positive impact on windows users. THEN WE CAN CONVERT THEM! MUUAHAHAHA!

P Rush

[Chealion]

I hope iTMS is released in Canada, but they will have a problem if they say downloading music is illegal. Downloading music is legal in Canada (thank you Copyright Act of 1997, which is also why we pay extra taxes on CDs, cassettes and any blank media). However uploading is illegal, and so Canada is not a p2p haven.

But I know many people would prefer to buy the songs (ethics and such), and if the Windows and Mac versions are released at the same time here, it could overcome PureTracks quite easily since PureTracks doesn't have enough servers to handle the load of so many people in the world checking it out.

[=pa=]

Originally posted by panphage
Wouldn't iTunes for Canada have an added and extremely difficult to honor hurdle? Not only would Apple have to negotiate with music rights holders, but they'd also have to fill the ITMS with a bulk of Canadian Content that outweighs content from other countries. Or has the Canadian Gov. given up on that particular oddity?

What a load of swill! The Canadian government has NEVER forced retailers to carry ANY percentage of ANY country's artists! :mad:

[From Win to Mac]

i hadn't thought of the CRTC...
Maybe that was the delay. They always screw the Canadian radios.

[From Win to Mac]

Originally posted by =pa=
What a load of swill! The Canadian government has NEVER forced retailers to carry ANY percentage of ANY country's artists! :mad:

ummmm.. actually, it does. Also for TV and radio... they have to play a certain percentage of Canadian Content. A couple of years ago, there was this big deal in Quebec when the CRTC said that Céline Dion was "no longer Candian Content, since it is written, mixed and produced in America". LOL

[tutubibi]

At least, not today.

:(

[Totalshock]

Originally posted by tutubibi
At least, not today.

:(

There's always Next Tuesday.

Too bad... 'cuz I was hoping to get some downloading done.

Okay... I realize we aren't a BIG part of the market.. but we'll help you get to that 100m figure. It's gotta be coming soon.

PS: On the regulation issue -- only applies to broadcast content. And although an absurdity, I'd consider it a success. Before, you only heard Canadian artists after they'd hit in the U.S. Now, we get a chance to hear some good stuff that we wouldn't hear otherwise, and there are some great Canadian rock acts. Of course, we do have to put up with some Made-in-Canada dreck as well... but the worst of that seems to be what gets over big in the States. Tragically Hip? No market worth speaking of Stateside. Celine Dion? All over that. Go fig.

[rodnarms]

I am one dissapointed puppy. I was hoping to spend like $50 downloading all the songs that I wanted if I could remember on demand.

Well according to the National Post it could be coming in about a month.

I am not going to hold my breath though.

This sucks!

[revenuee]

iTunes for Canada over iTunes for Windows all the way

i have no need for a windows version, i need a canadain version... :D

[=pa=]

Originally posted by From Win to Mac
ummmm.. actually, it does.

Pure fantasy. Show me ONE SINGLE SHRED of evidence to support your contention. Remember, we''re talking bona fide evindence, past or present, of government regulations requiring Canadian RETAILERS to carry ANY percentage of Canadian product. Links, please.

[panphage]

Originally posted by =pa=
Pure fantasy. Show me ONE SINGLE SHRED of evidence to support your contention. Remember, we''re talking bona fide evindence, past or present, of government regulations requiring Canadian RETAILERS to carry ANY percentage of Canadian product. Links, please.

I think the earlier posters are correct that this only applies to Broadcasting media: radio, television, etc. I got confused.

[Tyler Durden]

As stated by the CRTC and in the Canadian Broadcasting ACT, Cancon stipulates that broadcast media must play at least 35% Canadian Content material, deemed so by containing 50% of the necessary requirements which are:

M (music) -- the music is composed entirely by a Canadian.
A (artist) -- the music is, or the lyrics are, performed principally by a Canadian.
P (production) -- the musical selection consists of a live performance that is (i) recorded wholly in Canada, or (ii) performed wholly in Canada and broadcast live in Canada.
L (lyrics) -- the lyrics are written entirely by a Canadian.

These requirements do not apply to retail sales. However, I would like to add that we in Canada would want to have a vast selection of Canadian artists available for download when this service is implemented. Artists like Avril Lavigne, Sum 41, Nickelback, Our Lady Peace, Simple Plan, Sarah McLachlan, Shania Twain, etc., are extremely popular here.
Although not some of my favorite acts by any stretch of the imagination, Canadian music is probably our largest grossing cultural export. Whether or not their domestic loyalty is because of Cancon is an arguable point however.
But I think we Canadians can agree that having the Tragically Hip available for download would be very important, and our available iTMS catalogue would be quite different than that of the American Service, as I'm sure it would in Europe.

Please just sign the deal and set it up already! All these cool updates and I'm stuck looking through the window. And yes, I do feel put off that American windows users get to use the service before Canadian Mac users. That kinda stings, but hopefully it won't be long. But a great step for the greatest company in the world. Go Apple!

[xDANx]

Originally posted by rodnarms
Taken this quote from an article in today's National Post - a national paper that rarely publishes hearsy

hmmmm...i hope that was meant to be thinly veiled satire...pretty much everything in the national post is a lie.

[spastik]

Today an acquaintance of mine wrote an email to the head of the canadian artists' association, and got a call two hours later from the same guy (strange, non?)

This guy had just left the iTunes/iPod presentation and was very hyped about Apple's solution. Apparently he had spent some time chatting with Steve Jobs personally, and the RDF was very strong at the time of the phone call. He informed my acquaintance that they were close to getting the iTunes Music Store Canada launched, except for one point:

In Canada, the record companies are one group and the artists are another. And because of the success of iTMS and the future of online music, the artists' association (which this guy heads) is pushing to get a bigger piece of the revenue pie from these downloads. So whereas in the US the negotiations can be between the record companies and Apple, right now in Canada there's a 3-way negotiation process happening, and apparently no side has much room to maneuver.

So while he said it would be a matter of weeks, not months, I have my doubts. It sounds like this is a battle that could last a long time.

[Squire]

Originally posted by Tyler Durden
But I think we Canadians can agree that having the Tragically Hip available for download would be very important, and our available iTMS catalogue would be quite different than that of the American Service, as I'm sure it would in Europe.

I agree. It would also be cool if they offered exclusive tracks as well. (The iTunes music store does have the latest Hip album, strangely enough.)

I'm sure the iTunes Music Store Korea is still quite a ways off ;) so I'm waiting for the Canadian version.

Squire

[Phil Of Mac]

For Canadian content, they could get the rights to distribute THE TRANSFORMED MAN by WILLIAM SHATNER! :D :p ;)

[revenuee]

Maybe microsoft will take a hint from apple

Apple gives Microsoft a full featured music player

Microsoft gives Apple a full featured messanger - i think anyone using MSN messanger will agree that it is a joke, and is vastly inferior to its windows counterpart.

Yes i know i can use iChat, but that lets me talk to about 3 other people that i know use macs in my area

[Squire]

Originally posted by revenuee
Maybe microsoft will take a hint from apple

Apple gives Microsoft a full featured music player

Microsoft gives Apple a full featured messanger - i think anyone using MSN messanger will agree that it is a joke, and is vastly inferior to its windows counterpart.

Yes i know i can use iChat, but that lets me talk to about 3 other people that i know use macs in my area

I wonder if we'll ever see MSN Messenger-iChat compatibility. I prefer iChat but I'm in the same boat- no one to chat with. I have MSN Messenger for Mac but it always shuts down automatically.

Squire

[=pa=]

Originally posted by xDANx
hmmmm...i hope that was meant to be thinly veiled satire...pretty much everything in the national post is a lie.

:p Right on. But don't worry - they'll soon be defunct. The Post can't go on losing $20 million a year forever.

[revenuee]

Originally posted by Squire
I wonder if we'll ever see MSN Messenger-iChat compatibility. I prefer iChat but I'm in the same boat- no one to chat with. I have MSN Messenger for Mac but it always shuts down automatically.

Squire

I had not even considered iChat-Messanger support, but now that i think about it, it would be sweet. I was thinking of just having a working fully functional stand alone application would be fine ...sigh -

But i know what your talking about, my MSN keeps kicking me off all the time, but apperantly a lot of people are having this problem, Mac and PC

[Stella]

Looking through the discussions on the iPod for Windows group on the Apple site, I found this post..
http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?14@194.eEQNalYQi87.1@.599ad101

He claims that Apple haven't begun negoations yet. Hope he is just bulls?iting or just plain wrong.

The post is below..
"I'd think again about that.
Last week, I was getting antsy about iTMS for Canada. So, I emailed CRIA (Canada's RIAA). they replied that their negitiations with publishers and other online retailers is just about wrappd up, BUT THAT APPLE HAS NOT BEEN INVOLVED. APPLE has not approached CRIA.

Then, I called Apple and ,as expected, got NO info out of the customer rep (Apple does not comment on unreleased products).

Apple, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE bring iTMS to Canada! I and others have wallets burning holes in our pants!
"

[SeaFox]

Originally posted by revenuee
Yes i know i can use iChat, but that lets me talk to about 3 other people that i know use macs in my area

So none of your Wintel friends are on AOL/AIM?

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by revenuee
Maybe microsoft will take a hint from apple

Apple gives Microsoft a full featured music player

Microsoft gives Apple a full featured messanger - i think anyone using MSN messanger will agree that it is a joke, and is vastly inferior to its windows counterpart.

Yes i know i can use iChat, but that lets me talk to about 3 other people that i know use macs in my area

You're using iChat to talk to people in your area? And no one you know uses AIM?

[Inkmonkey]

I read in another forum that Europeans had American friends send them a gift certificate (which they paid them back for) and they were able to download tunes with no problem.
On the other hand, I've read that folks in other countries have been "blocked" from using ITMS altogether.

Anyone have any info or experience with this?

[revenuee]

Originally posted by SeaFox
So none of your Wintel friends are on AOL/AIM?

Nope everybody is on MSN

[Squire]

Originally posted by SeaFox
So none of your Wintel friends are on AOL/AIM?

Originally posted by revenuee
Nope everybody is on MSN

I'm in the exact same situation. I have an aunt at home who has AOL and another aunt and uncle with AOL. That's it. ALL of my friends have MSN. The reason is simple: it comes with Windows XP. Before I got XP, I had absolutely no interest in chatting. Then, automatically, I'm getting messages from friends. So I replied. After some time, I got more interested in it.

What I don't understand is that AOL owns the technology but they're not stopping others from using it. (I recall reading a news article on that before.) Eventually, all (or almost all) Windows users will upgrade to XP. That's a lot of people using MSN Messenger.

Now, to get back on topic:

Originally posted by Inkmonkey
I read in another forum that Europeans had American friends send them a gift certificate (which they paid them back for) and they were able to download tunes with no problem.
On the other hand, I've read that folks in other countries have been "blocked" from using ITMS altogether.

Anyone have any info or experience with this?

When I click on the iTunes Music Store link, it gives me the following message:

"The iTunes Music Store is not available in your country yet. You will be able to browse music and listen to previews, but you won't be able to purchase music unless your billing address is in the United States."

Squire

[From Win to Mac]

AOL is virtually non-esistant in Quebec. It used to be ICQ until about 4-5 years ago. Now, we're all MSN.

[rodnarms]

Taken from the CRIA:

Music publishers and record companies reach agreement to launch new online music services




TORONTO, October 9, 2003 - Canadian music publishers have entered into a landmark agreement with record labels and online distributors of sound recordings.
In a breakthrough agreement signed yesterday by David A. Basskin, President of the Canadian Musical Reproduction Rights Agency Ltd. (CMRRA) and Brian Robertson, President of the Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA), CMRRA has agreed to issue licenses to Internet music distributors. The agreement establishes the framework for standard terms and conditions under which CMRRA will do business with these important new services, and opens the door to their launch in the Canadian marketplace.

CMRRA will be entering into licensing agreements under this framework with Napster, MusicNet and Puretracks., Puretracks, a Canadian-owned service, will launch on 14 October 2003. MusicNet and Napster are scheduled to debut shortly thereafter with others expected to follow. Each of the services will offer upwards of 250,000 CD-quality songs on both a streaming and a la carte basis with prices starting at 99 cents.

"This agreement", said CMRRA's David Basskin, "sets up a solid, practical system to enable these new on-line services to obtain the rights they need to do business in Canada. Music publishers and songwriters are vitally important members of the music industry, and this agreement ensures that their rights will be respected - and that they'll be paid for the use of their songs."

"We've all suffered the plague of unauthorized file 'sharing'," Basskin added. "The best response is a legal, attractive alternative that will give the customers all of what they want - the world's best music - and none of what they don't want - spyware, porn and viruses." CRIA's Brian Robertson noted that, "This is truly a defining moment for the Canadian music industry. After four years of devastating retail losses to on-line piracy, we finally have the opportunity to positively embrace the technology with a dynamic new legal on-line retail experience. It will be rewarding for all concerned, including consumers, artists, songwriters, music publishers, record companies and the thousands of Canadians whose livelihood depends on a healthy music industry".

The Canadian Musical Reproduction Rights Agency Ltd. (CMRRA) is Canada's largest music licensing agency. Founded in 1975, CMRRA represents more than 10,000 music publishers, from the world's largest firms to individual copyright owners. On their behalf, CMRRA licenses the reproduction of their songs on CDs and cassettes, in films, television programs and commercials, for distribution via the Internet and in a host of other settings. CMRRA is a subsidiary of the Canadian Music Publishers Association.

The Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA) is a non-profit trade organization that was founded in 1964 to represent the interests of Canadian companies that create, manufacture and market sound recordings. CRIA's membership is comprised of the major record companies, leading independent labels and all manufacturers of compact discs and tapes. In all, they represent 95 per cent of the sound recordings that are manufactured and sold in Canada


No mention of iTunes though!

[Stella]

That is the standard message for iTMS if you are outside the US.

People who have US registered credit cards can still buy music even though they are outside of the US.

Originally posted by Squire


When I click on the iTunes Music Store link, it gives me the following message:

"The iTunes Music Store is not available in your country yet. You will be able to browse music and listen to previews, but you won't be able to purchase music unless your billing address is in the United States."

Squire [/B]

[elliscarson]

I started a petition for iTunes in Canada. Please sign up!

http://www.petitiononline.com/itunesca/petition.html

[Squire]

Originally posted by elliscarson
I started a petition for iTunes in Canada. Please sign up!

http://www.petitiononline.com/itunesca/petition.html

I just signed it, but I think there was another petition going around a few months ago. Oh, well. the more the merrier. Thanks for starting it. Also you should drop the -s on "computers". ;)

Squire

<Edit: Elliscarson...I just got the confirmation email for the petition and noticed your email address. Small world.>

[coolfactor]

Everything in Canada has to be provided in both English and French. That's the law, and that's a major hurdle for Apple to face.

I know it's coming to Canada, but not today.

[aethier]

Originally posted by mustang_dvs
Ah! ha! So it was Canadian subterfuge that has slowed the development of iTMS for Windoze, eh?

Well, I say it's aboot time we put an end to the hold-up and release both.

/They're not even a real country anyway...

i wouldn't really critisize how the people in newfoundland speak, nobody cares about them. and after watching "Fargo" they (americans) sound even more retarded then the newfies..

yeah..yeah, aethier yea
(joike for anyone who has seen fargo)_

[revenuee]

Originally posted by coolfactor
Everything in Canada has to be provided in both English and French. That's the law, and that's a major hurdle for Apple to face.

I know it's coming to Canada, but not today.

Ya, damn those french - always causing a problem for us... haha - Just Kidding guys, i love Quebec - aspecially Montreal.:D

On a serious note, i guess that would be a hurdle to overcome, two versions would need to be released.

[rafaelperini]

Originally posted by coolfactor
Everything in Canada has to be provided in both English and French. That's the law, and that's a major hurdle for Apple to face.

I know it's coming to Canada, but not today.

Puretracks.com is a Canadian on-line service for music and its not in french... just the "Terms & Conditions_| Privacy Policy_|_Contact_|_About Us_| Help" is writen in french in the bottom of the page...

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by rafaelperini
Puretracks.com is a Canadian on-line service for music and its not in french... just the "Terms & Conditions_| Privacy Policy_|_Contact_|_About Us_| Help" is writen in french in the bottom of the page...

Shouldn't that be "Aboot Us"?

Sorry!

[iTristan]

The echange rate gap is quickly closing up - it's much less relevant than even 6 months ago.

Originally posted by skymac
That would be nice, i do hope that it comes out soon but im not getting my hopes up. if there was an Itunes canada store, do you guys think apple would still charge 99 cet CAD even with the exchage rate difference?

[iTristan]

Don't forget - that Apple.ca is already operating bilingually. It's not like they've never done this before. IMHO, their bilingual infrastructure is basically in place, they just need to cross the "t"s and add the "accent-accute"s.


Originally posted by revenuee
Ya, damn those french - always causing a problem for us... haha - Just Kidding guys, i love Quebec - aspecially Montreal.:D

On a serious note, i guess that would be a hurdle to overcome, two versions would need to be released.

[srobert]

Things Apple should Know aBOUT Canadians (http://www.geocities.com/area51/rampart/3753/Canada.html)

Ok, some are b-***** but funny anyway.

[revenuee]

Originally posted by srobert
Things Apple should Know aBOUT Canadians (http://www.geocities.com/area51/rampart/3753/Canada.html)

Ok, some are b-***** but funny anyway.

b-*****?

have you travelled around canada?

i've never seen a more accurate description of our country

[srobert]

Originally posted by revenuee
b-*****?

have you travelled around canada?

i've never seen a more accurate description of our country

Well, I don't have 10 receipes for moose meat ;)

[Tim Flynn]

Originally posted by srobert
Well, I don't have 10 receipes for moose meat ;)

You really should get the road-kill one :D

[srobert]

Originally posted by Tim Flynn
You really should get the road-kill one :D

You mean the Teriyaki pebbles-n'-tar Moose grill?


Here in Quebec, roads are soooo bad and full of potholes (which we call "Nids de poules" in french). Those potholes make excellent makeshift "roadkill" traps. You simply have to spread some branches, twigs and weed over one of these, and then put a piece of apple or any decent bait in the center. You then come back the next day and voilà! Free lunch. It can be anything from a small racoon to a 600 pounds moose. (yeah! the roads are that bad!) the problem is sometimes you end up with a non-edible civic or tercel.

[Tim Flynn]

Originally posted by srobert
You mean the Teriyaki pebbles-n'-tar Moose grill?

Out west here we tend to go for the Pine & asphault with road salt and smoke (rubber).
And tenderized by Ford :D

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by srobert
Things Apple should Know aBOUT Canadians (http://www.geocities.com/area51/rampart/3753/Canada.html)

Ok, some are b-***** but funny anyway.

I got these jokes, but only because I watched Canadian TV for most of my childhood.

[revenuee]

Originally posted by srobert
Well, I don't have 10 receipes for moose meat ;)

Don't knock moose meat... i tried it for the first time when i lived out west ... way better then anything i've ever eatten ... nothing like there here in the GTA

[mrl14]

LOL You guys are missing the boat here.

Canada has 30 million people
USA has 330 million people

The ratio of Mac to PC users is very low in Canada, so a windows version would have to come out first, which it has.

Next, Canada is very stringent on it's culture. For example, if you listen to radio, more than half the content has to be Canadian related.

Furthermore, Puretracks has been in the works for a long time, and being Canadian, they obviously get first priority.

Another issue is exchange rate. For Apple to maintain 2 separate prices for music would be very difficult. Now they could just bill you in USD$ and then let the CC do the converting, they won't as it hampers the user experience.

Anyhow, iTunes Canada is coming soon, after the testing period of Windows is completed. Look for a late November, early Decemeber launch.

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by revenuee
Don't knock moose meat... i tried it for the first time when i lived out west ... way better then anything i've ever eatten ... nothing like there here in the GTA

Moose is good, I had a *lot* of it during my childhood. You shoot one moose and it can feed you for months on end!

[rodnarms]

This is old potatoes now. Apple is talking with the Canadian music industry on bringing the store here next.

Hope it goes well. It will be interesting to see how many songs they can launch with.

[Dr.SMaC]

Does anyone if MSN Explorer for MAC is available in canada ? i downloaded the software and it only lets u enter a US address, and the MSN/Sympatico package is only for windows.......does anyone know? Thanks

[tutubibi]

Does anyone if MSN Explorer for MAC is available in canada ? i downloaded the software and it only lets u enter a US address, and the MSN/Sympatico package is only for windows.......does anyone know? Thanks

You should ask this question in other forum not reopen old thread.
But anyway, MSN Premium is only for Windows (and even if you have Windows PC I would not recommend installing it).
You don't need MSN stuff to use Sympatico DSL service.

[Dessert Whip]

Isn't this a better thread for us Canadian iTMS wanters to bitch in?.... I for one am sick of seeing the June 15th date in the other thread.