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MacBytes
Jan 22, 2008, 09:24 AM
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Link: Mac security under real threat? (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20080122102407)
Description:: The Mac malware problem is currently tiny compared to the Windows one, so if enough Apple Mac users resist clicking on unsolicited weblinks or downloading unknown code from the web then there's a chance they could send a clear message to the hackers that it's not financially rewarding to target Macs. If they fail to properly defend themselves, however, there's a chance that more cybercriminals will decide it's worth their while to develop more malware for Mac during 2008.

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EagerDragon
Jan 22, 2008, 09:33 AM
Sorry but software that checks the browser id has been around for a long time. So what if they can tell the difference and include the appropriate trojan?

1 Trojan to 17,000 on Windows, WOW.

Yes, we can not remain smug, but we do have a ways to go before these are a serious issue.

Create a second id that is not an admin and use that along with backups like TimeMachine and restore to last night if you get hit.

saltyzoo
Jan 22, 2008, 09:39 AM
Sorry but software that checks the browser id has been around for a long time. So what if they can tell the difference and include the appropriate trojan?

1 Trojan to 17,000 on Windows, WOW.

Yes, we can not remain smug, but we do have a ways to go before these are a serious issue.

Create a second id that is not an admin and use that along with backups like TimeMachine and restore to last night if you get hit.

This is the attitude most windows users had 10 years ago.

Steve Grenier
Jan 22, 2008, 09:55 AM
This is the attitude most windows users had 10 years ago.
You mean before Microsoft drove their OS into the ground. I agree Mac users will eventually get problems with virus' but when your OS actually takes security seriously its not something to lose sleep over.

However I will admit most users don't take security seriously even on a Mac and click on dumb things they shouldn't have. If you don't go around clicking links of porn sites, you should be ok, if yo do, then you deserve the result, just like people who buy their drugs from spam email.

saltyzoo
Jan 22, 2008, 10:14 AM
You mean before Microsoft drove their OS into the ground. I agree Mac users will eventually get problems with virus' but when your OS actually takes security seriously its not something to lose sleep over.


Windows is a boatload better than it was 10 years ago. I used OS2 10 years ago despite my company being a Win NT shop. I was the only one that refused to run that garbage. Win 2000 - XP - Vista is a million times better than 98/NT was. Every time one of the NT guys harassed me, I'd pop a floppy in and hit format and then print a document at the same time and say "let's see you do that". At the time, NT would have a coronary if you tried. It was rather amusing to see them put their machines into catatonic oblivion. Preemptive multitasking was really hard for MS to figure out.

gerardrj
Jan 22, 2008, 10:43 AM
Trojans are not directly a "security threat" to the OS or platform. Trojans are social engineering schemes; like a con artist they will take advantage of your ignorance, apathy or confusion to cause you to give them what they want.

If you download a trojan on your Mac, you'll most likely still be required to run an installer and authenticate as admin on the machine. This requires near willful stupidity on part of the operator. Trojans are nothing like the self-installing, self replicating pieces of code we call viruses and worms that run rampant on the MS Windows OSes.

Granted, if you let a trojan on your system it can steal passwords, account numbers etc, but again.. only because you allowed it to.

angelwatt
Jan 22, 2008, 11:31 AM
This is the attitude most windows users had 10 years ago.

Probably, but 10 years ago the Internet wasn't anywhere near as big so it was harder for virus and the like to propagate. That said, I still don't take security lightly. I have everything locked down and firewalls at full strength and am always watchful.

Also, this is a security company that wants to you scared o you'll buy their software to "protect you." When someone without a motive starts telling me the sky is falling I'll take more notice.

cwt1nospam
Jan 22, 2008, 11:43 AM
that they provide no information about how successful this trojan was or is. Anybody can create a trojan for any platform. Just write a program that does a bad thing and give it an innocent name and icon!

Getting a trojan to work on other people's systems is a totally different task. Now you've got to fool the user at the same time that their system is warning them that the file they've just downloaded is an application. I think the article is a more successful trojan than OSX/RSPlug-Gen.