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hoyaspook
Jan 24, 2008, 05:13 PM
Here they are, courtesy of Engadget:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/24/first-benchmarks-macbook-air-is-the-slowest-apple-machine-on-th/

There's a lot of vitriol on the boards and not enough analysis. What do the benchmarks actually mean, for real world use? I'm quite torn between waiting for the MBP update and pulling the trigger on a MBA.



djinn
Jan 24, 2008, 05:43 PM
I have a hard time with people deciding between a MBP and a MBA. Total opposites! You guys that are trying to decide between these need to really think what you are going to use this laptop for. New is cool but sometimes you can shoot yourself in the foot.

Catch
Jan 24, 2008, 05:44 PM
Here they are, courtesy of Engadget:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/24/first-benchmarks-macbook-air-is-the-slowest-apple-machine-on-th/

There's a lot of vitriol on the boards and not enough analysis. What do the benchmarks actually mean, for real world use? I'm quite torn between waiting for the MBP update and pulling the trigger on a MBA.

Personally I was not expecting the MBA to be that capable. The 1.8 with SSD should be a really impressive performer!

Regards,

C

MacRumorUser
Jan 24, 2008, 05:46 PM
Madness isn't it. If you want raw power in a laptop get the MBP simple. The MBA isn't meant to be a powerhorse desktop replacement :rolleyes: When will people just 'cop on' :confused:

aiongiant
Jan 24, 2008, 06:16 PM
http://gizmodo.com/348733/first-macbook-air-benchmarks

more of a real world test
interesting result..

pretty obvious the air won't be as fast especially comparing cpus a 1.6 ghz cant get as fast as a 2+ghz thats just common sense

but it's nice to know it's not "THAT" slow lol and not too far off from the macbooks

hoyaspook
Jan 24, 2008, 06:47 PM
I have a hard time with people deciding between a MBP and a MBA. Total opposites! You guys that are trying to decide between these need to really think what you are going to use this laptop for. New is cool but sometimes you can shoot yourself in the foot.

What can I say? I'm a sucker for magnetic latches and back-lit keyboards.

ahaxton
Jan 24, 2008, 07:56 PM
I don't know why you would have a hard time seeing why people would be deciding between a MBA and MBP. Well its brought on another choice for someone who doesn't want a MB! Plenty of us who don't want the MB.

CaptainCaveMann
Jan 24, 2008, 08:03 PM
Personally I was not expecting the MBA to be that capable. The 1.8 with SSD should be a really impressive performer!

Regards,

C

Exactly! Let's see how the 1.8 ssd does, then make a decision. People keep going back n forth about it not being a main computer. My 12" iBook g4 1.33ghz with 768mb of ram and a 4200rpm hdd has been my main computer for quite some time. I've made movies on it, pictures, internet, email, microsoft office, all with ease. Granted it's not as fast as I would like.

But for someone like me, a macbook air is ALREADY going to be much faster than what I have. Most of the people crying are ones with MBP's or Macbook's saying oh man this thing is slow blah blah. Well ya, duh! It's slower than your computer, so what. Don't buy it, but it works for some people, and it's benefits to me outweigh what it's lacking. :D

diabolic
Jan 24, 2008, 09:20 PM
Personally I was not expecting the MBA to be that capable. The 1.8 with SSD should be a really impressive performer!

Agreed. It benchmarked better than I thought it would. I am getting the SSD, so I expect even a bit more.

heatmiser
Jan 24, 2008, 09:23 PM
I have a hard time with people deciding between a MBP and a MBA. Total opposites! You guys that are trying to decide between these need to really think what you are going to use this laptop for. New is cool but sometimes you can shoot yourself in the foot.

People deciding between the MBP and the MBA are people who don't need anything more powerful than the 2006 MB, but do want the aluminum shell/LED screen/backlit keys of the 2007 MBP.

CaptainCaveMann
Jan 24, 2008, 09:25 PM
People deciding between the MBP and the MBA are people who don't need anything more powerful than the 2006 MB, but do want the aluminum shell/LED screen/backlit keys of the 2007 MBP.

That describes me perfect. :D

butterfly0fdoom
Jan 24, 2008, 09:28 PM
So while the MBA is horrendous on benchmarking tests, in real life, it lags by a few seconds? I don't see why everyone's complaining so much. If the results were with the 1.6 and HDD, it's bound to be absolutely stellar with the 1.8 and SSD.

wentwj
Jan 24, 2008, 09:43 PM
So while the MBA is horrendous on benchmarking tests, in real life, it lags by a few seconds? I don't see why everyone's complaining so much. If the results were with the 1.6 and HDD, it's bound to be absolutely stellar with the 1.8 and SSD.

Well to be fair a lot of the "few seconds" were on relatively small samples. The moral of the story is, the MBA will be slower if you're doing a lot of things like transcoding video, ect.

Personally I'd like to see a test on a 1.8 non-SSD machine, as thats what I'd be looking for should I decide to get one... and also think it's a more reasonable machine.

steve31
Jan 24, 2008, 09:47 PM
wow the 1.8 with 64 GB SSD I ordered should be fast.:D

ahaxton
Jan 24, 2008, 09:48 PM
Well to be fair a lot of the "few seconds" were on relatively small samples. The moral of the story is, the MBA will be slower if you're doing a lot of things like transcoding video, ect.

Personally I'd like to see a test on a 1.8 non-SSD machine, as thats what I'd be looking for should I decide to get one... and also think it's a more reasonable machine.


1.6 and 1.8 non-SSD probably isn't that much different.
I think they did a great job on all the new tech they put into the machine. I'm glad to see what I thought when I read about the new tech in the MBA is really panning out.

EvryDayImShufln
Jan 24, 2008, 11:01 PM
Wow this thing performs pretty damn well! Actually I was even more impressed that the macbook beat the macbook pro in nearly every single test LOL

Mr. Eko
Jan 24, 2008, 11:10 PM
I'm not a computer wiz, but I do agree that the 1.6 is obviously going to be a little slower (why are people making a big deal out of it?). Is there hope that the SSD 1.8 will be a lot faster? I will be looking for a notebook in June. I will be in uni, and I don't need a 'super fast' book. If money really isn't a prob (trying not to sound so arrogant), would the air be such a bad choice? suggestions?

Coatsy
Jan 24, 2008, 11:11 PM
But for someone like me, a macbook air is ALREADY going to be much faster than what I have. Most of the people crying are ones with MBP's or Macbook's saying oh man this thing is slow blah blah. Well ya, duh! It's slower than your computer, so what. Don't buy it, but it works for some people, and it's benefits to me outweigh what it's lacking. :D

Like the guy who bought an MBA to replace his PowerMac G5, and wondered why his games didn't run so well on it.

tveric
Jan 24, 2008, 11:38 PM
Or the guy that just says "MacBook Air sucks!!!" just to get reactions out of people.

jhande
Jan 25, 2008, 02:39 AM
Given the benchmarks (which are adequate unless you need [insert standard requirements]), I'm still surprised at the visceral reactions the MBA provokes -- positive and negative.

The similarity to the original iPod reactions are eerie, and with that in mind, I expect that not only will the MBA be a qualified success in its first iteration, but also have the same kind of impact on the ultraportable market that the iPod had with music players, and the iPhone with cell-phones.

It ain't for me, but I still like it -- a lot.

em500
Jan 25, 2008, 06:55 AM
I'm still surprised at the visceral reactions the MBA provokes -- positive and negative.

The similarity to the original iPod reactions are eerie, and with that in mind, I expect that not only will the MBA be a qualified success in its first iteration,
Yeah, but so are its similarities to the Cube, so it could still go either way.

hoyaspook
Jan 25, 2008, 07:36 AM
Exactly! Let's see how the 1.8 ssd does, then make a decision. People keep going back n forth about it not being a main computer. My 12" iBook g4 1.33ghz with 768mb of ram and a 4200rpm hdd has been my main computer for quite some time. I've made movies on it, pictures, internet, email, microsoft office, all with ease. Granted it's not as fast as I would like.

But for someone like me, a macbook air is ALREADY going to be much faster than what I have. Most of the people crying are ones with MBP's or Macbook's saying oh man this thing is slow blah blah. Well ya, duh! It's slower than your computer, so what. Don't buy it, but it works for some people, and it's benefits to me outweigh what it's lacking. :D

That's exactly where I am! I have a 17" Powerbook G4 ! Ghz w/ 1GB of ram. There's no where for me to go but up!

Also, more info on actual performance: http://www.macworld.com/article/131805/2008/01/macbookair_first_tests.html

It's definitely faster than the G4, but, honestly, not by much.

diabolic
Jan 25, 2008, 09:10 AM
http://www.macworld.com/article/131805/2008/01/macbookair_first_tests.html


It's also interesting that in the comments the MacWorld reviewer writes that "three pounds instead of five is EXTREMELY noticeable." (emphasis is his).

Anderson3133
Jan 25, 2008, 09:28 AM
Agreed. It benchmarked better than I thought it would. I am getting the SSD, so I expect even a bit more.

For $999 more, let's hope your expecting more :)

shahidhaque
Jan 25, 2008, 10:40 AM
I'm still waiting for another battery test. The newspaper reviewers gave some tests but I'd like to see more confirmation.

jhande
Jan 25, 2008, 03:18 PM
I'm still waiting for another battery test. The newspaper reviewers gave some tests but I'd like to see more confirmation.

Yeah, that's the biggie. If real life use (with WiFi) is only 3.5 hours, then it isn't a MacBook Air, but a MacBook Ground - tethered to the mains.:rolleyes:

zanoii
Jan 27, 2008, 04:42 AM
My 12" iBook g4 1.33ghz with 768mb of ram and a 4200rpm hdd has been my main computer for quite some time. I've made movies on it, pictures, internet, email, microsoft office, all with ease. Granted it's not as fast as I would like.

But for someone like me, a macbook air is ALREADY going to be much faster than what I have. Most of the people crying are ones with MBP's or Macbook's saying oh man this thing is slow blah blah. Well ya, duh! It's slower than your computer, so what. Don't buy it, but it works for some people, and it's benefits to me outweigh what it's lacking. :D

I'm with you there. I have a Powerbook G4 12" 1.33 GHz w/ 768 MB RAM, though my HDD is 5400 RPM.

I first hesitated a little due to performance concerns, but preordered my MBA after realizing it will be faster than my old PB.

When Gizmodo released their benchmark, I did a side-by-side (well.. actually over-and-under) comparison to a benchmark I did on my machine about a week ago. Check it out here (http://jonasn.info/blog/index.php/2008/01/26/macbook-air-vs-powerbook-g4-12-benchmarks/). Text is in Swedish but you'll understand the benchmarks. :)

The MBA outperforms the PB in memory test, and (being dual core) beats it by 3x in thread test, while the PB beats the MBA in OpenGL graphics (not being far behind on Quartz graphics either) and disk performance.
I hope the MBA graphics result is due to new (unoptimized) drivers..

Also, it will be very interesting to see benchmarks on the SSD model.

(First post btw. Been reading for a while and couldn't resist posting a reply to this one.. :) )