Kucinich drops out

[Macky-Mac]

I'm surprised he didn't stay in longer. I thought he would go all the way to the convention but it seems he's leaving the race; Kuninich leaves (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/24/kucinich-to-drop-out-of-presidential-race/index.html?ex=1358917200&en=e3d8361e495e95b4&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss)

[Dont Hurt Me]

Edwards will be next.

[mactastic]

Kucinich was in the race? Just kidding!

When your support levels can't rise above the low single digits, you're done. Although I'm kind of surprised too because last time he went right up to the convention as I recall.

I think I heard something about him facing a stronger than expected challenger for his Congressional seat this time though. That might have been the deciding factor.

[Marble]

Interesting that he won't be endorsing anyone, according to that article. I thought just recently he was showing a public preference for Obama.

[Thomas Veil]

I think I heard something about him facing a stronger than expected challenger for his Congressional seat this time though. That might have been the deciding factor.I live near Dennis' district, and that's true. He's being challenged more by opponents who are complaining he's spending too much time being a presidential candidate and not enough being a congressman. This is, after all, Dennis' second time around in the presidential sweepstakes.

Edwards isn't gonna go easily. Nor should he.

[rockthecasbah]

It's not surprising considering CNN and MSNBC dropped him from the debates a long time ago, there's no way to get ahead with them unless you're a media marvel which the little guy is not :cool: Sad to see him go, I liked Kucinich a lot, but he was never a realistic candidate and his dropping was a long time coming.

[themadchemist]

When your support levels can't rise above the low single digits, you're done. Although I'm kind of surprised too because last time he went right up to the convention as I recall.

Edwards isn't doing much better, but he doesn't seem to get the message. I think Kucinich likes Obama, so he feels no obligation to stick around and keep his ideas circulating all the way up to the convention, the way he did when the milquetoast Kerry was the front runner.

That said, I like Kucinich's ideas and I always like him being out there spreading the good word.

[ucfgrad93]

Edwards isn't gonna go easily. Nor should he.

His numbers aren't that much better than Kucinich's. I don't see him lasting too much longer.

[IJ Reilly]

Kucinich was running?

(Sorry, hard to resist.)

[mactastic]

Edwards isn't doing much better, but he doesn't seem to get the message. I think Kucinich likes Obama, so he feels no obligation to stick around and keep his ideas circulating all the way up to the convention, the way he did when the milquetoast Kerry was the front runner.

That said, I like Kucinich's ideas and I always like him being out there spreading the good word.

His numbers aren't that much better than Kucinich's. I don't see him lasting too much longer.
Edwards isn't doing much better? His numbers aren't much better than Kucinich's? How do you figure? One recent poll of South Carolina had Edwards at better than 19 times the support level of Kucinich. In New Hampshire, Edwards got some 12 times the votes of Kucinich. In Iowa Kucinich didn't even get to the 5% threshhold required to have his delegates counted; while Edwards actually beat Clinton. Last time I looked Edwards had raised many many multiples of the money Kucinich raised.

No matter how you slice it, that's significantly better than Kucinich in every measurable catagory.

[themadchemist]

Kucinich was in the race? Just kidding!


Kucinich was running?

(Sorry, hard to resist.)

Come now, IJ, if you're going to make the joke, make it first. :p

[mactastic]

Come now, IJ, if you're going to make the joke, make it first. :p
He's ignoring me. I get under his skin I suppose.

[ucfgrad93]

No matter how you slice it, that's significantly better than Kucinich in every measurable catagory.

You are right about the numbers, however, he still doesn't have a chance against Clinton and Obama.

[IJ Reilly]

He's ignoring me. I get under his skin I suppose.

Is that so? I believe you don't understand why I stopped reading your posts.

[themadchemist]

You are right about the numbers, however, he still doesn't have a chance against Clinton and Obama.

Exactly, Edwards and Kucinich, as of today, have about the same chance of winning. That chance being no chance in hell.

[halfprep455]

I hope that Edwards drops out soon and that both him and Kucinich endorse Obama.(:

But it is really too bad that the media never even gave Kucinich a chance. If this were a perfect world, the general election would be between Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul. lol.

[themadchemist]

I hope that Edwards drops out soon and that both him and Kucinich endorse Obama.(:

But it is really too bad that the media never even gave Kucinich a chance. If this were a perfect world, the general election would be between Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul. lol.

In a perfect world, we could do better than either of them. Not that I don't love Dennis Kucinich--but c'mon, you want to talk about a perfect world.

[hulugu]

In a perfect world, we could do better than either of them. Not that I don't love Dennis Kucinich--but c'mon, you want to talk about a perfect world.

Perfect world. I'd be happy if things would rise somewhere above SNAFU. :D

[yg17]

I hope that Edwards drops out soon and that both him and Kucinich endorse Obama.(:

But it is really too bad that the media never even gave Kucinich a chance. If this were a perfect world, the general election would be between Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul. lol.

If a perfect world involves some nutjob like Ron Paul coming anywhere close to being president, then I really don't want to live in that world.

[themadchemist]

Perfect world. I'd be happy if things would rise somewhere above SNAFU. :D

I give this world a resounding "OOF."

[hulugu]

I give this world a resounding "OOF."

Out-of-office? :confused:

[Zwhaler]

I personally think that Kucinich would make the best next president but he would never make it close to winning the election. (if he got the same media attention that Obama and Hillary have gotten... perhaps he would have had a chance)

[MikeTheC]

So it looks like my chances to root for the Boy President are dashed to the ground yet again. *sigh*

Ah well... </sarcasm>

Guess what with Fred Thompson dropping out I'll just have to vote for Romney or Paul instead.

[je1ani]

If a perfect world involves some nutjob like Ron Paul coming anywhere close to being president, then I really don't want to live in that world.

Nut job?! Ron Paul is my man! His views on american foreign policy are dead on. Everything from the Iraq war to the Israeli Palestinian conflict. This guy has the best opportunity to make a change. Although I would vote for an Obama-Edwards ticket :D

[ravenvii]

Nut job?! Ron Paul is my man! His views on american foreign policy are dead on. Everything from the Iraq war to the Israeli Palestinian conflict. This guy has the best opportunity to make a change.

x2!

Although I would vote for an Obama-Edwards ticket :D

lol wut

[yg17]

Nut job?! Ron Paul is my man! His views on american foreign policy are dead on. Everything from the Iraq war to the Israeli Palestinian conflict. This guy has the best opportunity to make a change. Although I would vote for an Obama-Edwards ticket :D

Foreign policy is the only thing he has right. Everything else makes him a complete wacko nutjob.

[Thomas Veil]

Guess what with Fred Thompson dropping out I'll just have to vote for Romney or Paul instead.Yeah, especially since Curly Howard isn't running. :D

[geese]

Foreign policy is the only thing he has right. Everything else makes him a complete wacko nutjob.

I'm just amazed by how many people are willing to forget/overlook his links to the extreme-right. Dont want to start an arguement about it, but he has had undeniable links with some racist organisations.

[yg17]

Yeah, especially since Curly Howard isn't running. :D

I wish Curly was running, I'd vote for him in a second :D

[mactastic]

Is that so? I believe you don't understand why I stopped reading your posts.
Honestly, I don't give a **** why you stopped reading my posts.

You are right about the numbers, however, he still doesn't have a chance against Clinton and Obama.
That I can agree with, short of some kind of miraculous comeback.

[IJ Reilly]

Honestly, I don't give a **** why you stopped reading my posts.

Got it in one.

[mactastic]

Got it in one.
I had it right the first time sir.

[Lord Blackadder]

I get the feeling that Kucinic was marginalized because he isn't photogenic. If you aren't tall with good hair you haven't a chance these days. :(

...And he's associated with Cleveland.I think all of us Clevelanders are discriminated against by the rest of America. :eek:;)

[yellow]

If you aren't tall with good hair you haven't a chance these days. :(

Seriously? I'm very tall and have copious amounts of excellent hair! On my head!

yellow in 2012! :)

[Queso]

I get the feeling that Kucinic was marginalized because he isn't photogenic. If you aren't tall with good hair you haven't a chance these days. :(
If you think John McCain has good hair I worry for your fashion sense :D

[IJ Reilly]

I get the feeling that Kucinic was marginalized because he isn't photogenic. If you aren't tall with good hair you haven't a chance these days. :(

...And he's associated with Cleveland.I think all of us Clevelanders are discriminated against by the rest of America. :eek:;)

He was definitely the bad hair candidate, but I don't think was just the hair. He was occupying the furthest left chair in the Democratic candidate lineup, which is a tough place to be and still call yourself electable. I mean, if it was just the hair, Edwards wouldn't be doing even as well as he's done. (What's with that pork chop he wears on his head?)

Cleveland, now that's a problem nobody can do anything about. ;)

[yellow]

Didn't Denni just spend $27,000 on a recount in New Hampsha? Perhaps the results were less than encouraging, i.e., instead of +1% it was -1%?

[atszyman]

Seriously? I'm very tall and have copious amounts of excellent hair! On my head!

yellow in 2012! :)

As long as you remember that your Moderator duties come first, and remember that I'd like to be the ambassador to a small friendly Caribbean Country, Antigua, or Jamaica will do just fine...:D


Seriously, I wonder if Obama might see a slight boost from this. I can't imagine Kucinich's faithful are big on backing Hillary. As close as they seem to be, Kucinich's minions might make a difference.

[PlaceofDis]

As long as you remember that your Moderator duties come first, and remember that I'd like to be the ambassador to a small friendly Caribbean Country, Antigua, or Jamaica will do just fine...:D


Seriously, I wonder if Obama might see a slight boost from this. I can't imagine Kucinich's faithful are big on backing Hillary. As close as they seem to be, Kucinich's minions might make a difference.

i would think that you're right. those who support Kucinich hopefully now turn to backing Obama, and thus give him a boost.

[themadchemist]

Foreign policy is the only thing he has right. Everything else makes him a complete wacko nutjob.

As has been said before on these forums...While many of the actions he would take on foreign policy issues of the day are good, the reasons for which he would take those actions are disturbing. One's thought process and political philosophy are at least as important as one's positions on dealing with any particular situation.

[yg17]

As has been said before on these forums...While many of the actions he would take on foreign policy issues of the day are good, the reasons for which he would take those actions are disturbing. One's thought process and political philosophy are at least as important as one's positions on dealing with any particular situation.

that is very true.....It's 2 separate thought processes that arrive at the same conclusion. He's got the thought process of the wacko conservative who doesn't care about anyone besides himself.

[Lord Blackadder]

He was definitely the bad hair candidate, but I don't think was just the hair. He was occupying the furthest left chair in the Democratic candidate lineup, which is a tough place to be and still call yourself electable.

Yes, he does sit pretty far to the left - I admire some of his qualities but I would not vote for him...and I suspect the majority of democrats feel similarly.

I mean, if it was just the hair, Edwards wouldn't be doing even as well as he's done. (What's with that pork chop he wears on his head?)

Edwards lost me with his over-the-top "plain folks" attitude - he actually used the colloquialism " Highfalutin' " in a speech. :rolleyes:

Cleveland, now that's a problem nobody can do anything about. ;)

<hands over ears> La la lala, I can't hear you...<waves arms>Oh, Hi, Oh! :D

[IJ Reilly]

Edwards lost me with his over-the-top "plain folks" attitude - he actually used the colloquialism " Highfalutin' " in a speech. :rolleyes:

Well at least he didn't spit on the floor afterwards. I mean, the man has got his pride.

Sorry for the remarks about Cleveland. The rest of us need to give you a break. Your river hasn't caught fire for years now.

[Lord Blackadder]

Sorry for the remarks about Cleveland. The rest of us need to give you a break. Your river hasn't caught fire for years now.

Maybe it should - Some say infamy is better than anonymity.

Edwards has probably based his public comportment on the 1955 Disney film Davy Crockett, King of the Wild Frontier.

[IJ Reilly]

Maybe it should - Some say infamy is better than anonymity.

Edwards has probably based his public comportment on the 1955 Disney film Davy Crockett, King of the Wild Frontier.

:D

That is an hilarious mental image you have conjured up -- complete with buckskin coat, coonskin cap and musket.

[foidulus]

He actually came to Pittsburgh(ok, not that far of a trek outside Cleveland) to campaign in 2004, despite the fact that PA has one of the last primaries and Kerry had already sown up the nomination a few weeks prior. I thought it was pretty cool to go see him in a very small setting, maybe like 30 or so people in a little coffee shop in Pittsburgh. He answered unscripted questions and he is the only presidential candidate whose hand I ever shook.

Kerry came to PA too, but that was mainly to burn off money he had allotted for the primaries. Nobody was able to ask him questions or get close to him for the most part.

On polling day it was between Kucich, Kerry, and Lyndon Larousche. I picked Kucinich but I still regret not voting for Lyndon Larousche :P

However, I can understand why Kucinich decided to stop. He is facing some real competition for his house seat and venturing far away from home probably isn't a good idea.

[themadchemist]

Edwards lost me with his over-the-top "plain folks" attitude - he actually used the colloquialism " Highfalutin' " in a speech. :rolleyes:


As it were, highfalutin is an actual word.

[Thomas Veil]

Sorry for the remarks about Cleveland. The rest of us need to give you a break. Your river hasn't caught fire for years now.^ ^ :rolleyes: In other recent news, Lyndon Johnson picked up a beagle by the ears.

[IJ Reilly]

^ ^ :rolleyes: In other recent news, Lyndon Johnson picked up a beagle by the ears.

No kidding? I thought he died years ago.

[Lord Blackadder]

As it were, highfalutin is an actual word.

Technically, perhaps, but...:eek:

That is an hilarious mental image you have conjured up -- complete with buckskin coat, coonskin cap and musket.

Johnneeeeeee, Joooooohnnny Edwards, king of wild frontier....:)

[MikeTheC]

I get the feeling that Kucinic was marginalized because he isn't photogenic. If you aren't tall with good hair you haven't a chance these days. :(

...And he's associated with Cleveland.I think all of us Clevelanders are discriminated against by the rest of America. :eek:;)
Man, you got that right. The moment they found out I was from Cleveland, well... I really can't talk about that on the Internet, man. :p

Actually, I'm from Euclid myself. Whereabouts do you live?

[IJ Reilly]

Johnneeeeeee, Joooooohnnny Edwards, king of wild frontier....:)

Oh, thanks -- that really helped.