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PodPacker
Jan 29, 2008, 02:09 PM
Does anyone have a Mac Pro with the 1TB drive? I have been looking for these elusive 32MB Cache 1TB drives, but I keep coming across conflicting information. A brand and model number for the drive would be great. I'm running out of space fast. :eek:
kittiyut
Jan 29, 2008, 02:37 PM
Just got 5 Seagate ES.2 1TB delivered today. Still waiting for MP to be shipped though :(
Tallest Skil
Jan 29, 2008, 02:48 PM
Just got 5 Seagate ES.2 1TB delivered today. Still waiting for MP to be shipped though :(
Why five? One'll just sit there. Unless you're a swapper! :p
Cromulent
Jan 29, 2008, 02:50 PM
Why five? One'll just sit there. Unless you're a swapper! :p
You can put the fifth one where the second optical drive goes.
Tallest Skil
Jan 29, 2008, 02:52 PM
You can put the fifth one where the second optical drive goes.
Truth. Not many know this, though, and I assumed he didn't. I suppose Nute Gunray said it best, "Youuuu assuuuuuume tooo muuuuuch..."
kittiyut
Jan 29, 2008, 03:38 PM
Why five? One'll just sit there. Unless you're a swapper! :p
The other one goes into an external 2-drive enclosure (miniG)
using eSATA extender cable http://www.newertech.com/products/esata_cable.php
PodPacker
Jan 29, 2008, 04:19 PM
What about all those reports about bad Seagate drives? I'm a little weary about buying drives from them. Are those the standard issue Mac Pro drives? I found some 32MB cache drive at MCE, but they are $440.00 each. Seems pricey. Any other advice would be appreciated. Thanks guys for this info, especially for that tid-bit about the 5th space. Though I planned on using that as second optical to rip 2 at a time.
kdb31
Jan 29, 2008, 04:27 PM
I'm using the Samsung 1TB in my PC right now (in the 8800 waiting camp) and its been great. I think netdog is using a bunch of them too, although the 750gb varient.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152102
Cromulent
Jan 29, 2008, 04:40 PM
I'm using the Samsung 1TB in my PC right now (in the 8800 waiting camp) and its been great. I think netdog is using a bunch of them too, although the 750gb varient.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152102
I've just got one and it is an extremely fast and quiet drive for the price. No complaints with the Samsungs.
bilbo--baggins
Jan 29, 2008, 04:50 PM
I've got a couple of Hitachi 7K1000 1TB SATA drives in my G5. Has anyone used these in the Mac Pro. Presumably shouldn't be any problems?
rds
Jan 29, 2008, 04:55 PM
I have a couple of Samsung F1s waiting in the wings.
Cromulent
Jan 29, 2008, 05:00 PM
I've got a couple of Hitachi 7K1000 1TB SATA drives in my G5. Has anyone used these in the Mac Pro. Presumably shouldn't be any problems?
Nope, shouldn't be a problem at all.
kittiyut
Jan 29, 2008, 05:18 PM
What about all those reports about bad Seagate drives? I'm a little weary about buying drives from them. Are those the standard issue Mac Pro drives? I found some 32MB cache drive at MCE, but they are $440.00 each. Seems pricey. Any other advice would be appreciated. Thanks guys for this info, especially for that tid-bit about the 5th space. Though I planned on using that as second optical to rip 2 at a time.
$440 each??!!! I paid 310 for the 1TB ES.2 (7,200 rpm 32MB cache, enterprise class) You can get the 7,200.11 baracuda for only $275. OEM drives of course, but why pay retail for the box and cables that you don't need?
PodPacker
Jan 29, 2008, 05:39 PM
So, after you guys pointed me in the right direction, I've finally settled it to 3 models to choose from.
Seagate: ST31000340AS
Hitachi: HUA721010KLA330 and HDS721010KLA330
I am a Western Digital fanboy, but there is no 32MB cache drive from WD.
The specs on Samsung drive (ready time and read/write) seem awful compared to these drives. If they are a great deal cheaper I may opt for it. I hope that this thread helps others.
Thanks again. :)
rds
Jan 29, 2008, 05:48 PM
The specs on Samsung drive (ready time and read/write) seem awful compared to these drives. If they are a great deal cheaper I may opt for it. I hope that this thread helps others.
The access times are not that great but for read/write throughput performance, they beat them all. (Read some reviews, not the technical spec sheets. ;))
BajaBurrito
Jan 29, 2008, 06:29 PM
I ordered the 1 TB drive upgrade with my new Mac Pro and it shipped with a Hitachi 7K1000 (HDS721010KLA330). Not sure if that should influence anyone's decision, but thought I'd throw it out there.
thejadedmonkey
Jan 29, 2008, 06:37 PM
When given the chance, I always buy Samsung products, they simply can't be beat. The one Samsung hard drive I bought was the quietest desktop drive I've ever owned, and (when not reading or writing) quite possibly quieter then a laptop drive.
NATO
Jan 29, 2008, 07:06 PM
I'm using 2 Western Digital 'Green Power' 1TB Drives for general media storage, so far they're working great. I'm not sure what the performance is like for use as a primary boot volume, but for media storage they're fantastic - exceptionally quiet with lower power consumption (on paper anyway, I haven't actually measured power consumption myself)
kdb31
Jan 29, 2008, 07:26 PM
I'm using 2 Western Digital 'Green Power' 1TB Drives for general media storage, so far they're working great. I'm not sure what the performance is like for use as a primary boot volume, but for media storage they're fantastic - exceptionally quiet with lower power consumption (on paper anyway, I haven't actually measured power consumption myself)
Heres an article discussing the WD Green drives and Seagate :)
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3161
faumble
Jan 29, 2008, 09:02 PM
Just got 5 Seagate ES.2 1TB delivered today. Still waiting for MP to be shipped though :(
Whats the difference btw this ES.2 and the 7200.11??
Thanks!:D
kittiyut
Jan 29, 2008, 09:33 PM
Whats the difference btw this ES.2 and the 7200.11??
Thanks!:D
ES.2 is enterprise class, has higher MTBF, better power management, better error control, more reliable for 24/7 use. Unfortunately, I think it does not have NCQ !!??
DH Miller
Jan 29, 2008, 10:17 PM
Did you consider the WD Enterprise 750 SATAs? I was planning to go with two of those, giving up the extra space. Speed and acoustic noise are the top priorities (video editing/animation). Any comparisons you know of?
best.
d
Just got 5 Seagate ES.2 1TB delivered today. Still waiting for MP to be shipped though :(
kittiyut
Jan 30, 2008, 01:18 AM
Did you consider the WD Enterprise 750 SATAs? I was planning to go with two of those, giving up the extra space. Speed and acoustic noise are the top priorities (video editing/animation). Any comparisons you know of?
best.
d
No, I didn't consider it (both the RE2 and RE2-GP), reason?
- smaller capacity, I wanted 1 TB
- 16 MB cache vs 32 MB
- Maximum PC did a comparison amongst Hitachi, WD and Seagate (7200.11 not the enterprise version) 1 TB drives and gave the nod to Seagate as the fastest. Hitachi was the slowest due to smallest areal density (it uses 4 platters instead of 3)
bigbossbmb
Jan 30, 2008, 01:54 AM
Hitachi was the slowest due to smallest areal density (it uses 4 platters instead of 3)
You may want to check your numbers. The Hitachi uses 5 platters and the Seagate and WD's use 4. The Samsungs use 3... and they are the fastest.
faumble
Jan 30, 2008, 02:35 AM
ES.2 is enterprise class, has higher MTBF, better power management, better error control, more reliable for 24/7 use. Unfortunately, I think it does not have NCQ !!??
thanks! what is MTBF ad NCQ? could you pls tell me the differences btw these hds? thx in advance
Jsingh
Jan 30, 2008, 02:54 AM
I'm using the Samsung 1TB in my PC right now (in the 8800 waiting camp) and its been great. I think netdog is using a bunch of them too, although the 750gb varient.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152102
Whats up with all the bad reviews on newegg though?
I recently bought the Seagate 500gb 7200.11 drive from newegg and it shipped with the problem free firmware. It replaced a failed hitachi deskstar, or "deathstar" as they came to be known. Anyhow, the seagate is running great in my windows box and its pretty fast.
DH Miller
Jan 30, 2008, 07:29 PM
Well guess it depends on where you look, as Tech Report has the WD RE2 stomping the Seagate ES in nearly every category:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/13732
I'm not gonna obsess about this but am orderding two WD RE2s and will see how it goes.
Best,
d
No, I didn't consider it (both the RE2 and RE2-GP), reason?
- smaller capacity, I wanted 1 TB
- 16 MB cache vs 32 MB
- Maximum PC did a comparison amongst Hitachi, WD and Seagate (7200.11 not the enterprise version) 1 TB drives and gave the nod to Seagate as the fastest. Hitachi was the slowest due to smallest areal density (it uses 4 platters instead of 3)
kittiyut
Jan 30, 2008, 09:52 PM
Well guess it depends on where you look, as Tech Report has the WD RE2 stomping the Seagate ES in nearly every category:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/13732
I'm not gonna obsess about this but am orderding two WD RE2s and will see how it goes.
Best,
d
Hey thanks for the link! I wish I had read it before making the order.
Oh well :(
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