Evidence for New MacBook Pros

[sconnor99]

Let the whining re-commence:)

[PeterC-7]

Mac Book hath murdered sleep...

[liv4Mac]

edited

[stetz5]

I feel so....used.:(

[PeterC-7]

Now what does your highly mobile creative pro-photographer need to run Aperture 2 on, under 10.5.2? I see a subtle logic here.

[Coconutsport]

It's February 12th, do you know where your MacBook Pro update is?

[keysersoze]

Pwned.


NO MACBOOK PRO FOR YOU!!

[fuji]

WHACK!

Is next Tuesday a viable release date for them to ship with 10.5.2?

I CAN'T TAKE THE PRESSURE :eek:

[Am3822]

Am I right in assuming that the (hypothetical/much expected) MBP update won't happen today?

Edit: guess not. oh well. I'll spare you the usual why-i-need-this-update-to-happen-now story.

[Yves Creebs]

NOooOoooooooooo! hey apple here's a hint of what your users really want: MBP updates.

I guess the 5 Aperture users are happy.:D

[ewxlt]

It must be NEXT Tuesday then....:rolleyes:

[bensh]

I'm beginning to hate Apple for what they are doin' to us...:mad::mad::mad:

[g0rillacake]

I'm beginning to hate Apple for what they are doin' to us...:mad::mad::mad:

Or what they are NOT doing, like releasing friggin updated MBP's!

First, Apple stock drops 40%, you think the least they can do is update their old boxes of portable silicon! Sheesh!

[onicon]

noooooooooooooooo! not another week of impatient waiting :eek:

[JPD4212]

What the ****, Apple.

[unra8ted]

**BANG**
That is the sound of my head exploding from the pressure of waiting for a new MBP.

[ydb1914]

store back up, but can't see anything new.........

i'm taking my meds now :(

[ydb1914]

It must be NEXT Tuesday then....:rolleyes:

or next next tuesday..there are more or less 52 tuesdays in a year...45 more to go...:cool: sic:eek:

[Ibjr]

This is getting ridiculous. Why would anyone buy a macbook pro 17 inch that isn't even LED?

[Ibjr]

I forgot to ad that the Buyer's guide got my hopes up:

02/12: Apple Updates MacBook Pro
02/06: More SSD and HDD Comparisons and Testing Methodology [Update]
02/03: Faster NAND Flash (SSD) in Late 2008

(http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#MacBook_Pro)

[aiterum]

oh that's just lovely

[MinorBidoh]

deffinately next tuesday, my next door neighbour's, hairdresser's best friend's cousin's gardner said it was next tuesday....

oh yes next tues.. lol

[ydb1914]

deffinately next tuesday, my next door neighbour's, hairdresser's best friend's cousin's gardner said it was next tuesday....

oh yes next tues.. lol

that's what i said too...but i'm not a gardener, i a rumorist:);)

[ridehard]

getting disappointed ...

the least they could do is lower the mbp price, to compete with same spec other make's laptops.

I also think that theres more people waiting for an mbp update then a aperture.

Im sick of windows, thats why im waiting for the mbp update, really need if for university.

[celticrogues]

Hi! :D

I would like to propose a boycott. How bout if all of us boycott Apple products until they give us our Macbook Pro update!
That means no more iTunes, no more Apple TV, no more software updates, no more Mighty Mice bought, etc, etc until they cave to our iron-hard resolve and give us that computer!:cool:

Tell your friends - with enough of us we can do it!
:apple:The Boycott Starts Now!

(I'm only partially kidding :cool: )

-Mike

[cmm26red]

Just like our MPB update today, it didn't happen!

[Paix247]

Hi! :D

I would like to propose a boycott. How bout if all of us boycott Apple products until they give us our Macbook Pro update!
That means no more iTunes, no more Apple TV, no more software updates, no more Mighty Mice bought, etc, etc until they cave to our iron-hard resolve and give us that computer!:cool:

Tell your friends - with enough of us we can do it!
:apple:The Boycott Starts Now!

(I'm only partially kidding :cool: )

-Mike


but.. but.. If I can't spend my tax rebate on a new MacBook Pro and I can't spend my money in iTunes or on an Apple TV/Time Capsule combo... what the heck should I do with my money?
Save it?!?! :eek:

[pkr]

For whatever it might be worth I noticed that the price for refurbed MBPs has recently dropped; this might be indicative of Apple's desire to move 'em out before the new ones arrive.

[MacUser226]

oh please that has been going on for the past month or so. who knows when they are coming out. apple loves toying with us and we hate it. its their fault when they start losing customers that need a laptop now and move onto something else that is more powerful and alot cheaper.

[adkiller]

Has anybody analyzed the 10.5.2 update for signs of a new MBP? Previously it was reported on the news item at the beginning of this thread that the developer seeds of the 10.5.2 update contained the "MacBookPro4,1" identifier, thus proving that there was an imminent MBP release.

I am curious if that has changed in the publicly available 10.5.2 update. Also, are there any signs of new hardware support in the 10.5.2 update that may leak details on the upcoming MBP? This has happened in the past with other unreleased Macs.

I have downloaded the update package DMG with the intention to rip it apart and get the details. However, after some unsuccessful attempts on my PC, it seems to me that the 10.5.2 update DMG file could only be viewed or analyzed under OSX. I do not own a Mac yet, so am pretty bummed with no way of getting all that info for now.

-Ad

[onicon]

with "mac drive" you can use hfs partitions, mac cds/dvds and even open dmgs on a windows pc.

if the new MBP required 10.5.2 why not leave the MBp files out of the general update and just ship them with MBP only install discs that contain the extra files (just like with the MBA)?

[nickmcgill]

I'm sure we all remember what it was like to be 10 on Christmas eve not being able to sleep, not being able to wait for the next day to come.

Kinda sucks for us that this is every night for the past couple of months haha :D

[DoFoT9]

I'm sure we all remember what it was like to be 10 on Christmas eve not being able to sleep, not being able to wait for the next day to come.

Kinda sucks for us that this is every night for the past couple of months haha :D

hhha oh yes i know that feeling (not from chrissy). kinda sucks

[PeterC-7]

I'd like to think that the MBP's are already under production and that this delay is actually reducing the shipping time for when they're released. I know it'd be nice to know now that they'd be here in 3-4 weeks, but if in 1 or 2 weeks they're released with a 1-3 week ship time, they ain't going to arrive any sooner if we knew that now.

I know it'd be nice to know, but 3-4 weeks is going to come just as soon regardless. ;)

[DoFoT9]

I'd like to think that the MBP's are already under production and that this delay is actually reducing the shipping time for when they're released. I know it'd be nice to know now that they'd be here in 3-4 weeks, but if in 1 or 2 weeks they're released with a 1-3 week ship time, they ain't going to arrive any sooner if we knew that now.

I know it'd be nice to know, but 3-4 weeks is going to come just as soon regardless. ;)

u kno, thats a really good way of thinking about it. theyr just making heeps more as fast as they can so that we dont have to wait *as long* when they are announced :)

btw does any1 kno what the average waiting time is for a new release by apple?? say... to australia??

[jonswan]

Of course it's going to happen but the idea that Apple is 'toying' with us ridiculous and demented: what would be the point exactly?

"Everything's ready on the new MBPs, Steve"
"NO! Wait up a few months - I want them all to squirm! Mwahahahaha" etc.

Right. Apple will get them out when they're ready and when it makes sense to - and they certainly will not release a major update of the MBP right round the corner from the MBA - it makes zero sense and anyone who thought it'd be Feb 5 or 12 simply does not have their brain in gear. The MBA will get the limelight for a little while longer - and meanwhile most of us have got excellent computers that work just fine - apart from the Leopard/wifi garbage they've been serving up the last two months+
Relax, enjoy the wait - I always do. Remember the wait for Leopard? Intolerable right? But it passed before you knew it. Same thing here, and it's likely that the wait will be followed mostly by pleasure....

[Andrew D.]

I guess we just have to wait patiently and see when Apple makes the move, that's how it's always been at least for me it has been like that. Haha.

[joefinan]

I actually dreamt I ordered a new MBP last night.

Alas, it remains a dream...

[cmm26red]

OK, before I post this, please be advised that I have just as much disdain for unsubstantiated rumors as the next person. Having served in the military, I know that loose lips sink ships. I have yet to find anything about the upcoming MPB release that I find credible, including Hardmac, or various other sites who post one or two lines sighting a so called source. I bounce back and forth between here and the apple insider forums and have observed a member over there called tailpipe (Joined Aug 07) makle two posts over the pasts couple weeks that I find interesting. Take it as you will, believe it or not, it is entirely up to you. For me, this is the best and most believable discussion I have heard thus far about the new MPBs release. Even if it is not true, it still is a good read.

His first post was on 02-01-2008 @ 11:12 AM:

"This info comes to you from London via an Englishman working at Apple, (and there are more than you think ;-))

A revised MacBook Pro with a Leopard 10.5.2 update was meant to debut at MacWorld but neither was ready.

The delay for the MBP was caused by Intel Penryn processors not being available due to some production glitch. As we all know, Apple doesn't like to announce products too far ahead of their shipping dates - with the notable exception of the iPhone - so decided to delay the launch. Penryn-based PCs now good to go and begin shipping Monday.

Expect new MBP 15-inch and 17-inch within two weeks. 17-inch gets LED.
New MBP DOES feature a slightly revised case design with the new black keyboard from MBA and a larger trackpad, but is basically very similar to existing design. Think evolution not revolution.

The idea is to achieve a commonality of look across the range.
SSD will be an option offering an exceptionally fast boot time < 30 seconds.
Also seen lurking in the corridors of Cupertino was an aluminum MacBook 13". Initially available in silver, my source reckons anodized black, blue, pink and other colours will be available around September. New MacBooks will be a big story later this year. One of the range (I don't know which, maybe the black one) will have a superior spec that basically makes it a MacBook Pro 13"."

Reference: http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=83903

His second post was today, @ 11:17 AM

"The all new MacBook Pro was meant to make its debut at MacWorld in January. The big story was meant to be that while 2007 was all about the iPhone, 2008 would see Apple return to its roots: computers. Steve Jobs had planned to reveal a brand new 17" MacBook Pro, a brand new 15" MacBook Pro, (and, if my source is correct, there was even meant to be a brand new 13" model, but it isn't clear whether this was MacBook Pro or MacBook - but it is definitely aluminum). Having introduced these machines, the "...and just one more little thing." was meant to be the MacBook Air.

All of these machines feature the gesture touchpad, new keyboard, LED screens and super-sleek thinner case designs, longer battery life, lower weight than the existing line-up and 802.11n WiFi capabilities. What screwed up the launch was the manufacturing problem Intel is having with Penryn processors using the new 45Nm process. THEY STILL HAVEN'T YET SHIPPED IN VOLUME. Given that Leopard 10.5.2 wasn't ready either, the decision to pull the launch was made as a delay between announcement and launch would have killed Mac sales. As things stand, Apple will not launch any revised laptops until Penryn is up and running. That is expected to happen later this week or next week.

For these reasons, Apple is holding a special event in February which will include the iPhone SDK but no 3G iPhone yet.

Apparently, the decision to pull the launch of the revised range was only taken just before the MacWorld Conference and SJ was not amused. Fortunately, the MacBook Air uses a unique processor that was ready in time so this was unaffected by the penryn problem.
So, be patient, friends, new MBPs are coming. The delay isn't Apple's fault.
By all accounts, we'll all be delighted when these machines show-up. They'll be worth their WAIT in Gold."

Reference: http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=84319

Now let me ask you all one question, can anyone provide proof that Intel's new mobile chip has shipped in volume? (While some manufacturers claim the laptops with the new chips are in stock, I have yet to see any ship and there are only one or two reviews on Penryn based laptops thus far).

[jameskohn]

The Feb. 26th event starts to make sense given the post above. By then, Apple can confirm immediate availability of Penryn chips, complete 10.5.2, and use the presentation originally scheduled for MWSF.

Apple has been on a torrid pace as of late: 10.5.2 update, graphics update, Aperture update, iLife update, iPhone/iPod touch updates...

A "mini MacWorld" like event to announce the iPhone SDK and the immediate availability of new MBP's definitely seems reasonable in this context. Laptops are the hottest segment of Apple's computer business, and the MBP is their flagship laptop. I have no doubt that Apple is as eager as the rest of us to upgrade the MBP as soon as they can.

[pointycollars]

Hi! :D

I would like to propose a boycott. How bout if all of us boycott Apple products .....

I agree, but only in the context of the MBP. I've been telling people I know who are interested in buying one that they should wait until the new one is released soon. I've also heard that people have been taking newly purchased ones back to the store. This is all good news - I think we should spread the word about boycotting the existing MBPs.

But by all means, if you want an iPod, buy an iPod. :)

[gilfrishman]

Someone earlier mentioned that Chinese New Year might cause a production delay. As someone (else) who has been waiting to upgrade (since Mid-December when my 5 1/2 year old TiBook's video died) I am eager to believe the update is coming. So - I was picking something up at a Chinese sewing factory here in San Francisco today and asked the folks there if there was any truth to the factories closing for New Years. They told me that everything stops for 10 days in China! They showed me on their Chinese Calendar (where February 7 is the first day of the year) that businesses were closed as of Monday the 4th and would begin re-opening on Friday the 15th or Monday the 18th. They also told me the 7th day - today - is "everyone's birthday". As they put it: "All the believers celebrate their birthday today" (in addition to their regular birthday), so today is a huge celebration.

These are Chinese born people. I trust them completely on this. I don't know if it means anything, but the idea that MBP production would be delayed for these 2 weeks makes me feel a tiny bit less frustrated by the wait. I shared this in hopes that you all might get a slight stress reduction too. It's a good thing to get a glimpse of another culture in any case. I for one will plan on taking a trip to China (if I ever get to) during this time. Besides the party, the air must be a lot cleaner with all the factories shut down.

All good things are worth waiting for, aren't they?

[Digital Skunk]

The only thing that would change my mind about Apple's poor decision making in reference to PRO hardware and software would be them releasing updates every Tuesday for the next few months.

Next Tuesday: Apple Cinema Displays (lower price/redesigned case)

Tuesday after that: New redesigned MBP with Penryn and dual HDD on 17" model. NO cheesy MacBook keyboard.

Then: MacMini

Then: Airport Express

Then: Mouse

Then: Something else

Then Something else

Until they have the entire lineup of hardware fully up-to-date. I hope the iPhone doesn't get an SDK until we have our new MBPs.

[jturn00]

Has anybody analyzed the 10.5.2 update for signs of a new MBP? Previously it was reported on the news item at the beginning of this thread that the developer seeds of the 10.5.2 update contained the "MacBookPro4,1" identifier, thus proving that there was an imminent MBP release.

I am curious if that has changed in the publicly available 10.5.2 update. Also, are there any signs of new hardware support in the 10.5.2 update that may leak details on the upcoming MBP? This has happened in the past with other unreleased Macs.

I have downloaded the update package DMG with the intention to rip it apart and get the details. However, after some unsuccessful attempts on my PC, it seems to me that the 10.5.2 update DMG file could only be viewed or analyzed under OSX. I do not own a Mac yet, so am pretty bummed with no way of getting all that info for now.

-Ad

I did my own analysis of Aperture to see if I would buy it along with a new MBP and here is what I found:
"Using Multi-Touch Trackpad Gestures with Aperture 2


If your portable computer has a Multi-Touch trackpad, you can use Multi-Touch
trackpad gestures when working with Aperture. For example, when working with
images in the Browser, you can use the rotate gesture to rotate images and the swipe
gesture to select a different image. In addition to using the standard trackpad gestures
used with Mac portable computers, you can also use Multi-Touch trackpad gestures
with the following Aperture features."


Given that the instructions focus on portable computers and the only the MBA has multi-touch it would be safe to assume that other laptops would be coming out supporting multi-touch. Aperture is a pro product and the MBA doesn't seem a likely candidate for Aperture.

It gives me hope that the new MBP's will be out soon.

Jeff

[t0mat0]

The only thing that would change my mind about Apple's poor decision making in reference to PRO hardware and software would be them releasing updates every Tuesday for the next few months.


Not sure if you're in the UK - But either side of the pond, haven't Apple done a fair bit already this year? Jobs specifically stated in his keynote Apple will be having a more regular every darn month release of something new, be it hardware of software.

We've had over the first 60 odd days off the top of my head: Releases or announcements of:
Macbook Air
Time Capsule
Apple TV Take 2
Apple TV upgrade for v1.0
Aperture
Bump on iPhone and Touch size
Quicktime, iLife, OS X updates
iTunes price drop

Up this year:
Late 08 Mac Pro
Early 08 MBP
iMac
New screens
Silverthorne
iTablet (perrrrrhaps)
3G iPhone
Bump on iPhone and Touch size
Starbucks iPhone Touch deal
And a whole raft of stuff to come (SDK possible hookup with Adobe's AIR etc, MBP with better trackpad (superior to Air, which is between MB and MBP, new screens, video 3G MMS etc on iPhone, )

So it might not be every Tuesday, but i'm wager every month - every fortnight. "Any given Tuesday" so to speak. As for Pro only - a modular sytem allow user upgrade, allows some space on the kit side. you can throw in more RAM, more HDs, Swap chips, Change graphics cards, in a very easy manner. There may be some delay now, as Intel's roadmap means that there's a chip change now, with a board change in the next few months anyhow.

[carlgo]

cmm26red's post above again brings up that interesting post that he quotes. And I hope someone knows about the chip shipping volumn he questions.

We have sort of assumed that the new pros will be updated versions of the present models. What if Apple says no, that the Air is the future and makes nothing but bigger and better MBAs? Air Force, Air Superiority, yeah, that makes more sense.

And the MB, a nice new aluminum one, competing closely with the MBA and the cheaper MBPs...doesn't make sense. Maybe the MBA drops down in price and a Super-Air, or Pro-Air, takes the present price position and the MB is dropped.

Not likely now, but I'll bet Apple would like to just have a whole line of Airs. Three sizes of the same case, three screens, an assortment of innards and so on. Real simple and modular, easy to build and all going down the same line. Makes a lot of sense. And a lot of profit.

All that is in the way is the optical drive...

[teek]

[QUOTE=cmm26red;4957902]OK, before I post this, please be advised that I have just as much disdain for unsubstantiated rumors as the next person. Having served in the military, I know that loose lips sink ships. I have yet to find anything about the upcoming MPB release that I find credible, including Hardmac, or various other sites who post one or two lines sighting a so called source. I bounce back and forth between here and the apple insider forums and have observed a member over there called tailpipe (Joined Aug 07) makle two posts over the pasts couple weeks that I find interesting. Take it as you will, believe it or not, it is entirely up to you. For me, this is the best and most believable discussion I have heard thus far about the new MPBs release. Even if it is not true, it still is a good read.

His first post was on 02-01-2008 @ 11:12 AM:

.......snip.........


If this turns out to be true then I'll have to get at least 3 different mac's.. and that's laptops only. Wah! Need MacBook Air, MacBook Silver? and 15" or 17" MacBook Pro :-)

Looking forward to it ! :apple:

[jnc]

The only thing that would change my mind about Apple's poor decision making in reference to PRO hardware and software would be them releasing updates every Tuesday for the next few months.

Next Tuesday: Apple Cinema Displays (lower price/redesigned case)

Tuesday after that: New redesigned MBP with Penryn and dual HDD on 17" model. NO cheesy MacBook keyboard.

...

Maybe they'll release the 15" one week and the 17" the next :D That covers us at least until April.

[Javaman74]

For these reasons, Apple is holding a special event in February which will include the iPhone SDK but no 3G iPhone yet.

Apparently, the decision to pull the launch of the revised range was only taken just before the MacWorld Conference and SJ was not amused. Fortunately, the MacBook Air uses a unique processor that was ready in time so this was unaffected by the penryn problem.
So, be patient, friends, new MBPs are coming. The delay isn't Apple's fault.
By all accounts, we'll all be delighted when these machines show-up. They'll be worth their WAIT in Gold."

Reference: http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=84319


You're right, if nothing else, it does make for an interesting read.

Although I'm at the point where I find myself refreshing the store every Tuesday morning, it would make the next couple weeks bearable if there were some other sources that also suggest that the big event on the 26th might be something other than/in addition to an iPhone announcement. Posts like this one are what keeps me from just going ahead and ordering one in my weaker moments.

[Spritey]

but.. but.. If I can't spend my tax rebate on a new MacBook Pro and I can't spend my money in iTunes or on an Apple TV/Time Capsule combo... what the heck should I do with my money?
Save it?!?! :eek:

Save it sounds good. The recession has barely started even, so might as well be prepared.

[Spritey]

Prolly old news, but I noticedthat Best Buy is out of stock of their MBPs online. They only have 17" left.

Hmmm... you'd think Apple and/or Best Buy would be able to predict fairly accurately the demand by now... unless they purposely want to get rid off excess inventory.

[DoFoT9]

Prolly old news, but I noticedthat Best Buy is out of stock of their MBPs online. They only have 17" left.

Hmmm... you'd think Apple and/or Best Buy would be able to predict fairly accurately the demand by now... unless they purposely want to get rid off excess inventory.

which they do...

[thebeat]

yah I asked Steve Jobs when the Macbook Pro will release, he says in April. ROFL

[factor.eight]

yah I asked Steve Jobs when the Macbook Pro will release, he says in April. ROFL

Got any screen shots of the e-mail?.. Either Steve is lying and we will all be really happy and surprised when it comes out in the next few weeks. OR.. it really sucks that we have to wait another two months.. Hmm.. I wonder if that is actually Steve who responds to the emails.. Either or, I reckon they are just toying with us.

[jnc]

yah I asked Steve Jobs when the Macbook Pro will release, he says in April. ROFL

April 1, right?

I can get why everyone here is so expectant, but we sure aren't owed a new machine... well, ever.

If I didn't have the hangup that I'm paying full whack for old, old stuff, I'm sure I'd be blown away by the current models - so I'm waiting, but I'm not holding my breath.

For all we know, that 2.6GHz, 250GB "option" in Nov is supposed to tide us over until Montevina...?!

[kmorris]

I just found a person selling a 17" MBP for $2200, I'm sure I can talk him down to at most $2k. All I really use it for is school and I'm sick of waiting around. My 15" MBP was stolen a week ago today so I'm anxious to get another one. Worth it or no?

[VicMacs]

get it, its not like the newer ones will be ridiculously faster

[Russet]

deffinately next tuesday, my next door neighbour's, hairdresser's best friend's cousin's gardner said it was next tuesday....

oh yes next tues.. lol

I saw red parrot in a cage this morning. It was sitting on it's perch saying:

"New mac next tuesday, new mac next tuesday."

"How old is your parrot?" I said to its owner.

"Oh about fifteen years" he said.

"Been talking long?" I said.

"About fifteen years" he said.

[Mr. Funsocks]

I saw red parrot in a cage this morning. It was sitting on it's perch saying:

"New mac next tuesday, new mac next tuesday."

"How old is your parrot?" I said to its owner.

"Oh about fifteen years" he said.

"Been talking long?" I said.

"About fifteen years" he said.

I love these posts. It's what keeps me sane.

[ts1973]

I saw red parrot in a cage this morning. It was sitting on it's perch saying:

"New mac next tuesday, new mac next tuesday."

"How old is your parrot?" I said to its owner.

"Oh about fifteen years" he said.

"Been talking long?" I said.

"About fifteen years" he said.

Great post m8 :D

[fleek1116]

did anyone notice the apple store down today?? there is new stuff on the main page. also, in the store, MBA ships times have gone down to 7-10 business days and they added Aperture 2 to the "New to the Store" list. It wasn't on there right after release. Just curious if anyone noticed anything.

[eraser85]

go get an xps 15".. you save € 300+ getting even a better hardware than current mbps.. shyte on you :apple:!

[skorpien]

go get an xps 15".. you save € 300+ getting even a better hardware than current mbps.. shyte on you :apple:!

And what operating system would you be getting on this xps of which you speak? There's your justification for spending the extra money on a Mac. I'd MUCH rather pay the premium on an Apple computer then not have to muck around with getting Vista to run semi-decently without all the extra crap they load with it. And trust me, having had to set up two VAIOs (both running Vista) for my sisters and nearly smashing them both to bits because of it, I'm good and ready to switch to a Mac.

[Burtonsnow9]

so its been a while, but any more news relating to that new tag on that battery log site?

[melchior]

so its been a while, but any more news relating to that new tag on that battery log site?

site has been down since not long after this article.

[Burtonsnow9]

site has been down since not long after this article.

yea i saw that, but just wondering if anyone had any more thoughts on whether or not that was really for the new MBP

[Paix247]

yea i saw that, but just wondering if anyone had any more thoughts on whether or not that was really for the new MBP

Yes, I think that was the only real proof we've had. I emailed the owner of the site, and he said there have not been any more appearances of the MacBookPro4,1. He also said the site would be back up on March 1.

[aiterum]

And what operating system would you be getting on this xps of which you speak? There's your justification for spending the extra money on a Mac. I'd MUCH rather pay the premium on an Apple computer then not have to muck around with getting Vista to run semi-decently without all the extra crap they load with it. And trust me, having had to set up two VAIOs (both running Vista) for my sisters and nearly smashing them both to bits because of it, I'm good and ready to switch to a Mac.

reformat and install XP, or maybe go with ubuntu or something like that. Also, Vista isn't really that awful of an operating system. I'm hesisitant to bash it, especially with a service pack that is coming out for it soon in March. XP was horrible until SP1, but after that it was (and is still) an excellent operating system

[Quillz]

And what operating system would you be getting on this xps of which you speak? There's your justification for spending the extra money on a Mac. I'd MUCH rather pay the premium on an Apple computer then not have to muck around with getting Vista to run semi-decently without all the extra crap they load with it. And trust me, having had to set up two VAIOs (both running Vista) for my sisters and nearly smashing them both to bits because of it, I'm good and ready to switch to a Mac.
This is why you always do a clean install of the OS that's included on OEM builds.

[skorpien]

reformat and install XP, or maybe go with ubuntu or something like that. Also, Vista isn't really that awful of an operating system. I'm hesisitant to bash it, especially with a service pack that is coming out for it soon in March. XP was horrible until SP1, but after that it was (and is still) an excellent operating system

This is why you always do a clean install of the OS that's included on OEM builds.

You both make good points, but seeing as neither are actually my own machine and I probably don't have the tech savvy to install Ubuntu, I couldn't be bothered to do that. Also, from my (limited) experience with Macs, it's a lot easier to reinstall the OS if something becomes corrupt.

But the main reason I'm switching to a Mac is because of the Adobe Creative Suite programs I use. Heck, even a G4 could run CS better than my PC. And it's only 2 years old.

I'll agree XP is a solid OS, and I'm sure Vista will become more so with later revisions, but I'd rather have OSX running on a Mac. Just more reliable and generally better for a creative professional in my experience is all.

[gomvi17]

Anyone knows if the new upgrades for the MBP will make mine significantley diferent i bought mine last week.
MBP 2.2Ghz

[melchior]

Anyone knows if the new upgrades for the MBP will make mine significantley diferent i bought mine last week.
MBP 2.2Ghz

I know, and you'll cry when you find out.

[ageha]

I'll agree XP is a solid OS, and I'm sure Vista will become more so with later revisions, but I'd rather have OSX running on a Mac. Just more reliable and generally better for a creative professional in my experience is all.
:rolleyes: I prefer Linux. Much better interface and workflow.

[PeterC-7]

Did anyone notice that this article seems to have disappeared from the MacRumors site this morning:

MacBook Pro Updates... This Tuesday?

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/24/macbook-pro-updates-this-tuesday/

I didn't get to read it but I guess its disappearance means it was either too accurate or too unreliable. If too unreliable it would have gone to page 2, so here's hoping.

[Flyer0815]

Did anyone notice that this article seems to have disappeared from the MacRumors site this morning:

MacBook Pro Updates... This Tuesday?

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/24/macbook-pro-updates-this-tuesday/

I didn't get to read it but I guess its disappearance means it was either too accurate or too unreliable. If too unreliable it would have gone to page 2, so here's hoping.

This is what arn posted in the comments right after he pulled the story:

editor note: I've removed the story off the front page for now as some conflicting information has arisen. I still believe the MBP's are coming on Tuesday, but I need to reconcile some information, and have pulled the story temporarily because of it.

[Kittychan]

Surely the new macbook Pro is coming, because in Thailand you get iPod original for free when you purchase a macbook Pro now :D

[gd0014]

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)

Despite persistent rumors of MacBook Pro updates, we've yet to see the rumored Penryn, Multi-touch trackpad MacBook Pro revisions. However, there appears to be ongoing evidence that the MacBook Pro updates are imminent.

The current MacBook Pros which were released in June (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/06/05/apple-releases-new-macbook-pros-with-santa-rosa/) carry a system identifier label of "MacBookPro3,1". One reader notes that an application called MiniBatteryLogger (http://www.emeraldion.it/software/macosx/minibatterylogger.html) provides public battery tracking logs, and recently revealed (http://burgos.emeraldion.it/mbl/entry/5cba8768214db05dd629188bd1ded708) an entry with an identifier of "MacBookPro4,1". "MacBookPro4,1" is presumably the identifier for the unreleased MacBook Pro revisions. The author of the application states that the identifier is obtained automatically from the system, though there are no guarantees that it wasn't faked.

However, this same new "MacBookPro4,1" identifier has also found in the latest developer seeds of Mac OS X 10.5.2 from Apple. In contrast, the public version of Mac OS X 10.5.1 does not contain the "4,1" identifier.

In many ways, all this does is verify what we have presumed to be true... that MacBook Pro revisions are coming, and soon enough that the Mac OS X 10.5.2 will support them, but it's still somewhat reassuring for those waiting patiently (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=412084) for the new MacBook Pros.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/01/30/evidence-for-new-macbook-pros/)

Did anyone ever verify if the "MacBookPro4,1" identifier was in fact the new (most recent Rev.E) MacBook Pro? You always hear about these 'leaks' and 'whispers' but rarely do we see the follow through as to whether they were legit or not.

(It would be nice if some of these rumors were validated so we don't all feel crazy chasing ghosts all of the time) ;)

[Syrus28]

Did anyone ever verify if the "MacBookPro4,1" identifier was in fact the new (most recent Rev.E) MacBook Pro? You always hear about these 'leaks' and 'whispers' but rarely do we see the follow through as to whether they were legit or not.

(It would be nice if some of these rumors were validated so we don't all feel crazy chasing ghosts all of the time) ;)
So true.

Either way, Im just hoping the new MacBook Pros don't come in white/black, with a plastic back. :rolleyes:

[HFU]

"MacBookPro4,1" was the legit identifier for Feb. 08 released MBP. People should be looking for "MacBookPro5,1", "MacBook5,1", "MacBookAir2,1" identifier in the latest 10.5.4, 10.6 developer seed or logging software like MiniBatteryLogger by now.

[CWallace]

Did anyone ever verify if the "MacBookPro4,1" identifier was in fact the new (most recent Rev.E) MacBook Pro?

That is what my MBP shows. Bought it two weekends ago.

[Westsider 4 Mac]

... promises. Update the MBP line and complete it with a 13 inch MBP to upgrade the 12 inch PBG4 and I am happy!:D:apple:

[gd0014]

That is what my MBP shows. Bought it two weekends ago.

That's promising... maybe it will reveal the next revision sometime prior to the official release...

There should be a 'rumors scorecard' much like what is done after a WWDC or MWSF. It would help identify which rumors are worth listening to, and which should be ignored. Otherwise, we are just delaying purchases (and enjoyment) based on photoshopped pictures and fake blogs that will never be true.

Random speculation/rumors can be fun, but even more fun are rumors that are likely to be legit. ;)

[EspressoLove]

Did anyone ever verify if the "MacBookPro4,1" identifier was in fact the new (most recent Rev.E) MacBook Pro? You always hear about these 'leaks' and 'whispers' but rarely do we see the follow through as to whether they were legit or not.

You could have validated it yourself.
Of course if your signature is legit, that is.

[SchneiderMan]

i have a good feeling that the new mbp's will have a black Aluminum finish like the black ipod classics (: and that will only be for the high end ones, the low end models will still have the silver aluminum

[gd0014]

You could have validated it yourself.
Of course if your signature is legit, that is.

MBP is en route... ordered it about 3 days ago (so I guess you could say the MBP is 'pending')

[cknyc]

MBP is en route... ordered it about 3 days ago (so I guess you could say the MBP is 'pending')

Is the 2.4GHz in your signature the new one you just ordered? Contemplating picking one of those up, but of course worried the second I order it Apple will release all new MBP's

[Digital Skunk]

Is the 2.4GHz in your signature the new one you just ordered? Contemplating picking one of those up, but of course worried the second I order it Apple will release all new MBP's

They won't, and even if they do then you can trade up and get the new one or get over it.

[Tallest Skil]

i have a good feeling that the new mbp's will have a black Aluminum finish like the black ipod classics (: and that will only be for the high end ones, the low end models will still have the silver aluminum

I don't want to have to pay $200 for a color like the MacBook crowd...

If there is a black anodized aluminum MacBook Pro, it will be the 17" and only as an option. That's how Apple does colors. Well, except for the MacBooks.

[gd0014]

Is the 2.4GHz in your signature the new one you just ordered? Contemplating picking one of those up, but of course worried the second I order it Apple will release all new MBP's

Yeah, that's the one. And like DigitalSkunk said, at some point you just have to get on with it. I totally understand that you dont want to buy something that is about to get updated, but the bottom line is, it may not get updated anytime soon.

This was my rationale for pulling the trigger, despite all the (usual) new MBP rumors:

1. I needed a new computer. Badly. My current rig is an 8 year old 700MHz Athlon with 256mb of ram.

2. The back to school deal happening right now is fantastic if you can swing the student discount. Luckily my wife is taking a part time course. Not only do you get $200 off the MBP, but you get a $320 ipod and $100 off a printer. I already sold the ipod and printer for an additional $350 discount off the system. That's $550 off in total. (I live in Canada)

It's arriving tomorrow - and I am very excited (my first Mac). I think just having an updated computer that doesn't crash from loading photoshop is going to make me so happy that I wont care about a macbook-style keyboard or magnetic latch... or whatever small thing is going to come in the case redesign.