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Psycho
Feb 1, 2008, 10:47 AM
Got my MBA yesterday, and I had a lot of trouble previewing songs on the iTunes Music Store. The song would play for a few seconds and continually rebuffer. I also found page loading on Safari and Firefox to be very slow (more so than on my CD Macbook). Anyone had the same experiences?



Zeos
Feb 1, 2008, 11:47 AM
Got my MBA yesterday, and I had a lot of trouble previewing songs on the iTunes Music Store. The song would play for a few seconds and continually rebuffer. I also found page loading on Safari and Firefox to be very slow (more so than on my CD Macbook). Anyone had the same experiences?

It's probably the 4200 rpm drive. Much of the buffering happens on the hard drive, so it probably can't keep up with the wireless; but that's really just a guess.

cenetti
Feb 1, 2008, 11:53 AM
I wouldnt expect any better from that machine....be happy with what you have or return it and get a refund....

1.6/4200rpm is a joke in this time and age...

monjones
Feb 1, 2008, 12:10 PM
the itunes store on my macbook pro has suddenly become very slow over the last couple of days. internet is otherwise at full speed, so i don't know what the problem is. i get the same problem as you with songs, and video clips take forever to load (up to around 20 mins). i'm still trying to figure it out...

aiongiant
Feb 1, 2008, 12:14 PM
It's probably the 4200 rpm drive. Much of the buffering happens on the hard drive, so it probably can't keep up with the wireless; but that's really just a guess.

i don't think this is it...
have you had much lag on the ipod with songs? since it's uses the same hdd

i think it's itunes server side or your internet is slow

cause thoese arnt full mp3s here if your just previewing songs
so were talking about less than 1mb files here at MOST since a full song is about 4mb

zippster
Feb 1, 2008, 12:15 PM
I wouldnt expect any better from that machine....be happy with what you have or return it and get a refund....

1.6/4200rpm is a joke in this time and age...


oh come on hardware changes.... dont get caught up on buzzwords and numbers!

thats like saying a 1.6 centrino is the same as a 1.6 core 2 duo? i dont think so.

and as for 4200rpm hdd, nowadays hdd has differernt size buffer cache which can make up for performance 10x!

the Air will be more than capable of streaming HD video over wireless.<fullstop>


cheers

MacsAttack
Feb 1, 2008, 12:15 PM
the itunes store on my macbook pro has suddenly become very slow over the last couple of days. internet is otherwise at full speed, so i don't know what the problem is. i get the same problem as you with songs, and video clips take forever to load (up to around 20 mins). i'm still trying to figure it out...

With two major underwater cables cut in the Med, perhaps internet traffic is being routed other ways - resulting in congestion????

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7222536.stm

monjones
Feb 1, 2008, 12:29 PM
With two major underwater cables cut in the Med, perhaps internet traffic is being routed other ways - resulting in congestion????

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7222536.stm

could be it, as my problem definitely seems to be with the itunes server, as nothing else on my system seems to be impacted. but the problem discussed in the article doesn't seem to be affecting the US directly and i would guess the itunes servers are based here, but i don't know. i tried reinstalling itunes, but problem has not gone away.

cenetti
Feb 1, 2008, 12:36 PM
oh come on hardware changes.... dont get caught up on buzzwords and numbers!

thats like saying a 1.6 centrino is the same as a 1.6 core 2 duo? i dont think so.

and as for 4200rpm hdd, nowadays hdd has differernt size buffer cache which can make up for performance 10x!

the Air will be more than capable of streaming HD video over wireless.<fullstop>


cheers

do you realize that its slower than mac mini?
and also...if I am about to drop 1800-3000 bucks on a computer, i'd pay attention to the numbers.....hell..thats all you should pay attention to...
NUMBERS! BENCHMARKS!

its a computer you're buying not a vase to put next to the fireplace!!

MacRumorUser
Feb 1, 2008, 12:39 PM
It's probably the 4200 rpm drive. Much of the buffering happens on the hard drive, so it probably can't keep up with the wireless; but that's really just a guess.

Don't be silly. It would buffer that much to memory, and if a friggin ipod can playback AAC without problems from the drive, why would the MBA have problems. :rolleyes:

Think before you post.


I wouldnt expect any better from that machine....be happy with what you have or return it and get a refund....

1.6/4200rpm is a joke in this time and age...

Wow thanks for contributing that wonderful and thoughtful insight :rolleyes: Keep up the good work :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

do you realize that its slower than mac mini?
and also...if I am about to drop 1800-3000 bucks on a computer, i'd pay attention to the numbers.....hell..thats all you should pay attention to...
NUMBERS! BENCHMARKS!

its a computer you're buying not a vase to put next to the fireplace!!

Then don't buy one... great good for you. Now can you stop trolling the forum before someone presses the BAN button.

aristobrat
Feb 1, 2008, 12:44 PM
do you realize that its slower than mac mini?
and also...
Do you realize that people are using Macs a heck of a lot slower than any intel Mac mini and aren't having any problems with iTunes rebuffering because of the RPM of their drive or processor speed?

Save your price/performance rant for another thread. CPU and harddrive speed are the least likely components to be an issue with the OPs problem.

diabolic
Feb 1, 2008, 12:48 PM
if I am about to drop 1800-3000 bucks on a computer, i'd pay attention to the numbers.....hell..thats all you should pay attention to...
NUMBERS! BENCHMARKS!

You should realize that the numbers aren't the most important thing to a lot of people. To some, the size and appearance are as important, if not more, as the speed or storage space.

Just because you look for the top specs doesn't mean you're any smarter than they are. People have different priorities.

Also, I had a 1.3 GHZ Pentium M notebook that browsed the web and previewed iTunes songs just fine.

Petrogk
Feb 1, 2008, 12:54 PM
I wouldnt expect any better from that machine....be happy with what you have or return it and get a refund....

1.6/4200rpm is a joke in this time and age...

Jesus....it's faster then all/most of the laptops in it's weight category.

Let alone DAMN faster then any laptop of its thickness.

2.4 Ghz subnotebooks/thin light notebooks DONT EXIST and won't for a while!

It's not supposed to be a Macbook Pro.

Nuks
Feb 1, 2008, 12:55 PM
do you realize that its slower than mac mini?
and also...if I am about to drop 1800-3000 bucks on a computer, i'd pay attention to the numbers.....hell..thats all you should pay attention to...
NUMBERS! BENCHMARKS!

its a computer you're buying not a vase to put next to the fireplace!!

Seriously, you've posted in multiple threads how you feel about the MBA. It's obvious you don't like it. It's also obvious that your complaints aren't going to be the defining reason someone doesn't buy it. So please do everyone a favour and stop posting worthless comments.

MacRumorUser
Feb 1, 2008, 12:56 PM
^ please remember guys...

http://brentroos.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/troll.jpg

Hopefully he's got the message and will kindly do us all a favor :)

aiongiant
Feb 1, 2008, 01:08 PM
lol yea lets all stop the hate LOL

zippster
Feb 1, 2008, 01:32 PM
ooh i didnt realise it was troll season... now wheres my whackin' stick!!


people who are obsessed with numbers(buzzwords) well the Air really isnt a product for them.....hell i cant imagine there is any apple product they will be happy with so maybe they should go back to the wonderful OS they call Windows Vista.

SEOT, now back to the OP's question..:p

tstarks33
Feb 1, 2008, 01:37 PM
ooh i didnt realise it was troll season... now wheres my whackin' stick!!


people who are obsessed with numbers(buzzwords) well the Air really isnt a product for them.....hell i cant imagine there is any apple product they will be happy with so maybe they should go back to the wonderful OS they call Windows Vista.

SEOT, now back to the OP's question..:p

Ah, the typical Macbook Air Defense Force answer to any MBA criticism: It's not meant for you then. That's a pretty handy defense!

Zeos
Feb 1, 2008, 01:40 PM
Don't be silly. It would buffer that much to memory, and if a friggin ipod can playback AAC without problems from the drive, why would the MBA have problems. :rolleyes:

Think before you post.


Oh well. I guess we can't all be as tech savvy and cool as you. ;)

zippster
Feb 1, 2008, 02:01 PM
Ah, the typical Macbook Air Defense Force answer to any MBA criticism: It's not meant for you then. That's a pretty handy defense!

LMFAO \/\/hatever man! enjoy vista ;)


i know its gonna be less powerful the my mbp or imac but then its more portable and lighter... horses for courses, besides im only buying it because im an apple fanboy!

that make you feel better?

LouTreize
Feb 1, 2008, 02:03 PM
TO THE OP: Why deal with idiots?...

Here's whats going on. (http://www.tuaw.com/2008/01/31/macbook-air-wireless-problems/) Hope this helps a little.

aristobrat
Feb 1, 2008, 02:06 PM
Ah, the typical Macbook Air Defense Force answer to any MBA criticism: It's not meant for you then. That's a pretty handy defense!
And it totally explains why some people find value in the MacBook Air price/weight/performance and others think it's a joke.

Virtually everything "criticized" about the MBA is SUBJECTIVE. There is no "one answer" that covers how every person feels about it.

aristobrat
Feb 1, 2008, 02:12 PM
TO THE OP: Why deal with idiots?...

Here's whats going on. (http://www.tuaw.com/2008/01/31/macbook-air-wireless-problems/) Hope this helps a little.
Hmm, I didn't see iTunes mentioned in Apple's note that you linked to. I could see high-bandwidth tasks being affected (like Remote Disc, Migration, or Remote Install Mac OS X that they mentioned), but streaming song previews?

LouTreize
Feb 1, 2008, 02:15 PM
Hmm, I didn't see iTunes mentioned in Apple's note that you linked to. I could see high-bandwidth tasks being affected (like Remote Disc, Migration, or Remote Install Mac OS X that they mentioned), but streaming song previews?

Well anything could be possible at this point. And i did say "Hope this helps a little". It's an issue that people are starting to get aware of, thats all. Thought it would help ease the situation a little, at least.

aristobrat
Feb 1, 2008, 02:34 PM
No worries. You brought the thread back on point. :)

netdog
Feb 1, 2008, 03:14 PM
do you realize that its slower than mac mini?
and also...if I am about to drop 1800-3000 bucks on a computer, i'd pay attention to the numbers.....hell..thats all you should pay attention to...
NUMBERS! BENCHMARKS!

its a computer you're buying not a vase to put next to the fireplace!!

The Mac Mini isn't slow for browsing websites. We have already established that this is not a machine for pimply-faced gamers, so you can go back to your Playstation 3 now.

All reports say this is a great machine for writing, emailing, browsing, etc. The experience at Apple was just an anomaly. Anybody here who suggests that the 1.6/4200 1.8" single platter drive can't keep up with browsing demands doesn't know what they are talking about.