MacBook Pro Launch February 12th?

[kabunaru]

Heck no. You wish though.

And if I am guessing right, there is going to be another Mac Pro revision this year because the new Mac Pros are called "Early 2008" which leads to speculate that there might be another Mac Pro update this year. ;)

My guess the next Mac Pro is going to be called: "Late 2008" Mac Pro.
Sorry for off topic.

[jnc]

And if I am guessing right, there is going to be another Mac Pro revision this year because the new Mac Pros are called "Early 2008" which leads to speculate that there might be another Mac Pro update this year. ;)

My guess the next Mac Pro is going to be called: "Late 2008" Mac Pro.
Sorry for off topic.

That just denotes what point of the year the machine came out. Early, Mid or Late.

[melchior]

Ok..ok....my bad...chillax. So then let me rephrase. I buy MBP on Feb. 8, 08 without AppleCare. Warranty runs out on Feb. 8, 09. I wait a year, then on Feb. 8, 2010 I buy AppleCare. Can I do that and be covered until Feb. 8, 2012?

no. you can't do that. you must purchase before you one year warranty runs out

2011 is the best you can do, dude, give it up!

[Mr. Funsocks]

Ok..ok....my bad...chillax. So then let me rephrase. I buy MBP on Feb. 8, 08 without AppleCare. Warranty runs out on Feb. 8, 09. I wait a year, then on Feb. 8, 2010 I buy AppleCare. Can I do that and be covered until Feb. 8, 2012?

Still looking for those loopholes eh?

[Mr. Funsocks]

no. you can't do that. you must purchase before you one year warranty runs out

2011 is the best you can do, dude, give it up!

Listen to this man.

[Wolf04]

Still looking for those loopholes eh?
Hell yes!! :p Haha, ok, ok...for now I give up but I still have plenty of time to find a way in (until Dec. '09 you say. :p). From people's experience, is AppleCare worth the money...like are there high chances of your MBP to break in 3 years?

[kabunaru]

Still looking for those loopholes eh?

And the new MacBooks (not MacBook Pros) will come out in May. You guys at Apple chose May (and in the fall) as the month(s) the MacBook usually sees updates.

[JDR]

This is all deja vu for me. I remember two weeks ago when everyone was like "I'll be on the computer all night and I'll be the first to order it!" or something like that. Then, this past Tuesday people were like "Ok, now it's definitely coming out this time. Look, the Apple Store is down on a Tuesday!". Trust me, I really want a new MBP to replace my aging iBook....but Apple already knows when they're releasing it and that date isn't going to change. It could be this Tuesday. Or the next. Maybe Sunday morning at 3:54 A.M. Who knows. That's part of being an Apple fanboy(girl) :apple: ;)

[Mr. Funsocks]

This is all deja vu for me. I remember two weeks ago when everyone was like "I'll be on the computer all night and I'll be the first to order it!" or something like that. Then, this past Tuesday people were like "Ok, now it's definitely coming out this time. Look, the Apple Store is down on a Tuesday!". Trust me, I really want a new MBP to replace my aging iBook....but Apple already knows when they're releasing it and that date isn't going to change. It could be this Tuesday. Or the next. Maybe Sunday morning at 3:54 A.M. Who knows. That's part of being an Apple fanboy(girl) :apple: ;)

I know exactly what you mean. I can't be like this anymore. I'm on edge all the time. The past two Tuesdays the store has gone down. I was so excited, so sure that that was the day. (Maybe not sure but I sure as hell wanted it to be) and then I was dissappointed again. I want this Tuesday just as much as the rest of you. But I don't think I can take another emotional beating again. Let's all hope for sooner rather than later I guess. But all we can do at this point is speculate. And speculate we will.

[jnc]

Hell yes!! :p Haha, ok, ok...for now I give up but I still have plenty of time to find a way in (until Dec. '09 you say. :p). From people's experience, is AppleCare worth the money...like are there high chances of your MBP to break in 3 years?

I guess you'll be glad you get it in the scenario where something goes wrong on your last day of cover, and they give you a new machine ;) Otherwise, it's just insurance

[GooglEyes]

My guess the next Mac Pro is going to be called: "Late 2008" Mac Pro.


And the MacBook Pro should be called the "WaitBook Pro"!!!! :D

[Russet]

I prayed to Dog that I could catch my flawed message in time but alas I was too late. SIGH. Now that oxygen is once again flowing freely through my body I hope we can still be dyslexic friends on this never-ending journey towards Apple nowhere.


Of course Hil and let us enjoy some light hearted diversion during our wait.



Question? Do you feel like sometimes Steve Jobs is Moses and we are his people, following him aimlessly, through a vast dessert, to a promised Land that will end up being where? In the middle of the friggin dessert?



Yes Hil, I know what you mean. I worry that if Mac start to really do well, and let's face it Gates's team appears to be flagging somewhat) will they become more like MS in their business practices. It isn't surprising that MS have lost a few court cases in Europe.

The promised land for Steve might be a mighty business empire that has lost the values that we have all respected in Apple such as being able to freely share files, lack of control freak mentality etc.

It is a desert, there is always another sanddune in the distance with a newer version of the MBP sitting on it.

[TimeWaster101]

Of course Hil and let us enjoy some light hearted diversion during our wait.



Yes Hil, I know what you mean. I worry that if Mac start to really do well, and let's face it Gates's team appears to be flagging somewhat) will they become more like MS in their business practices. It isn't surprising that MS have lost a few court cases in Europe.

The promised land for Steve might be a mighty business empire that has lost the values that we have all respected in Apple such as being able to freely share files, lack of control freak mentality etc.

It is a desert, there is always another sanddune in the distance with a newer version of the MBP sitting on it.

I am too worried about the future of apple as it becomes more and more popular. It has had to deliver quality to survive as the low man on the totem pole. But as apple becomes more popular, things could decrease in quality. (I SO HOPE NOT!!!!!)

[Pukey]

Oh man, there are some great posts in here. Thanks txhil and Russet!

And on the point just brought up about Apple, I agree. It would be nice to see them get more and more customers, but if Apple grew lax like Microsoft after gaining a huge following and started turning out half-baked products that would be very disappointing. If Microsoft turns around and starts putting out better stuff to provide more competition for Apple, then that would be something. Oh well, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it...
My dog told me the next MBP update is sometime in the future.

[skorpien]

I'm not too worried about quality being compromised anytime soon. I mean, look at 10.5.2 and how long it's taking to be released. Apple seems to have its priorities in order on the quality issue. Although I do wish they would end this suspense and at least put out an official statement as to the approximate time the MBP should be expected to arrive. I know it's coming anytime soon, and I'm fortunately patient enough and fed up with Windows enough to wait it out. However, I can't help but think there are those that were turned off by the waiting game and changed their minds to go with a PC machine instead. All those lost potential sales have got to be hurting Apple's bottom line... The mystery was cute at first, but now it's just excruciating.

[AngryLeprechaun]

2.4...strange...

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was a 2.4 for baseline, then 2.6 for the higher end models. Maybe a 2.8 BTO option. And if you think about it, the 2.4 would be cheaper than the 2.5 and, from a customer's point of view, it'd just be a .1 difference between the baseline and higher end.

[Fossie]

the 2.4ghz T8300 with 3Mb l2 cache? I really hope not.
The T9300 and T9500 are more likely..6Mb l2 cache. 2.5 & 2.6ghz.

[AngryLeprechaun]

the 2.4ghz T8300 with 3Mb l2 cache? I really hope not.
The T9300 and T9500 are more likely..6Mb l2 cache. 2.5 & 2.6ghz.

Oh damn, I didn't see the 3Mb L2 cache. I just thought they were all 6Mb. lol Well I'm going for the highest model anyway so it doesn't matter either way for me. :D

[add2mac]

I have no idea if this means anything or not. My Black Macbook broke down for the 3rd time on Tuesday 5th with the exact same problem. The Product specialist decided to replace it this time so I requested that I pay the difference and upagrade to the entry level 15" MBP which he allowed me to do.

Well, now I'm a bit confused. Tuesday 5th I was approved for the upgrade to the entry level 15" MacbookPro:

You can see the specs of the MBP in the quote above. I chose all the default options except I chose the glossy screen instead (no additional cost).

Yesterday FedEx picked up my defective Macbook and the Apple rep ordered my MBP. Today I got an e-mail informing me of the order and my order # and a link to the order status page. Looking at that page shows the config specs (listed below) which are identical to the mid level MBP and not the entry level MBP.



I called to confirm that their not sending and charging me for the mid level MBP. She confirmed I'm getting the entry level MBP and will only be charged $500. Since the rumor is the MBP update is coming on Feb 12th and my shipping date says between the 8th and 12th maybe I will be getting one of the updated models, I'm honesty not sure.


I originally thought that may be they don't have enough stock of base model but quick check on Apple store proved me wrong(I am glad I am wrong)

But if this indeed is a base model for next generation MBP, it's sort of a bad news since Penryn 2.4Ghz only sports 3MB L2 Cache. I mean I don't know too much about L2 and etc but more can't be bad but as current 2.2Ghz matches the price of current 2.2Ghz I guess that's why Apple did this.
Also I was really hopping that Apple will begin with 200GB HDD and 250GB on upper model.

At least I hope they give us 256MB graphic memory even XPS has GDDR3 256MB you know not that Apple cares really.

So it seems like Top two line up will be sth like 2.5Ghz with 2.6Ghz CTO and 200GB HDD. And high possibility of 2GB memory still but 4GB will be great.

Btw does 4GB mean much in Mac OS X cause apparently it does not mean much in Windows Vista 32bit. I know Mac OS X is 64bit but how 64bit is it anyway? If Mac OS X is mostly 32bit, is this why Apple hesitant to include 4GB.

Update: processor price:2.6GHz T9500 ($530), and 2.5GHz T9300 ($316) CPUs with 6MB L2 Cache. 2.4GHz T8300 ($241) and 2.1GHz T8100 ($209) with 3MB L2 cache. And apparently T9300 is at the same price point as current 2.4Ghz and T8300 at the same price point as current 2.2Ghz

[dempson]

But if this indeed is a base model for next generation MBP, it's sort of a bad news since Penryn 2.4Ghz only sports 3MB L2 Cache. I mean I don't know too much about L2 and etc but more can't be bad but as current 2.2Ghz matches the price of current 2.2Ghz I guess that's why Apple did this.

The current entry-level MacBook Pro has 2.2 GHz with 4 MB L2 cache. If the new model is 2.4 GHz with 3 MB L2 then the performance it gets will be better than the old model for most tasks, but there will be a few tasks that run slower, because they need to access main memory more often due to the smaller cache. Overall I expect it would be better except in rare cases.

Btw does 4GB mean much in Mac OS X cause apparently it does not mean much in Windows Vista 32bit. I know Mac OS X is 64bit but how 64bit is it anyway? If Mac OS X is mostly 32bit, is this why Apple hesitant to include 4GB.

With 32-bit versions of Windows, you really can't use all of 4 GB of memory. The system is limited to a little over 3 GB, even if you have more than that installed. You must run a 64-bit version of Windows to use 4 GB of more RAM.

With Mac OS X 10.5, the system is easily able to use all of 4 GB of memory (or more, e.g. in a Mac Pro). Individual 32-bit processes can only use about 2 or 3 GB, but you can have several processes running, and between them they can collectively use more than 4 GB. 64-bit processes can use more than 4 GB all by themselves.

If you use your computer for a single memory-hungry application and it is 32 bits, then that application won't be able to use all of 4 GB, but the rest can be used for other parts of the system and for file system caching.

The only reason that Apple would hesitate to include 4 GB as standard is the extra cost of the memory modules.

[Wheelie4]

Interesting... They make no mention in the specs list what Graphics card is in it...

Wheelie4, call them up and ask what Graphics card you're getting in it, and how much RAM it has. If they can't tell you, that's very exciting news. It probably means they're updating the Graphics Card in the new MBPs as well.

The girls number I have is not toll free and she's only at work monday thru friday 8-5pm CMT so I couldn't contact her now. She didn't know about the difference in the specs she read off to me (I think she placed the order on their store site) and the specs listed on my order status page. So I just wanted to make sure I was getting the entry level MBP and was only being charged the $500 we agreed on and that I approved and not being charged $1000 and being sent the mid level MBP.

I'd be happy with the currently listed entry MBP (which I was expecting anyway) but if their going to send me an updated model I'll accept that and be even more happy with that outcome of my defective black macbook replacement. :)

[icengg]

Hi Friends,

I recently went back home to India, and in a leading vernacular daily, they commented that MBP update period to be in last week of Feb- first week of March.

Another rumor treading out of the enormous rumor mill regarding MBP updates!;)
Time apple's monopoly in this segment needs to be broken!!

cheers

[Mr. Funsocks]

Hi Friends,

I recently went back home to India, and in a leading vernacular daily, they commented that MBP update period to be in last week of Feb- first week of March.

Another rumor treading out of the enormous rumor mill regarding MBP updates!;)
Time apple's monopoly in this segment needs to be broken!!

cheers

Source link please.

[ewxlt]

Hi Friends,

I recently went back home to India, and in a leading vernacular daily, they commented that MBP update period to be in last week of Feb- first week of March.

Another rumor treading out of the enormous rumor mill regarding MBP updates!;)
Time apple's monopoly in this segment needs to be broken!!

cheers

Which vernacular daily was that?

[Digital Skunk]

Okay, the 12th is fast approaching and my account is ready for that 17" book with dual HDDs and a dual 2.8GHz chip.

And i can't forget the mag latch and user swappable drives in a newly designed case.

:)

p.s. wirelessly posted from HTC TOUCH using copy/paste from Word Mobile on wicked fast EVDO!

[kkat69]

Good Lord I hope this happens so we can find something else to whine about. :p

[7even]

From http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/here-come-the-macbook-pro-mockups-get-yours-in-before-its-too/2#comments , middle of the page


All I know is I ordered a 15" MBP on Monday (2.6Ghz, 250 GB drive, 2 GB RAM), and its shipment has been delayed until at least Monday the 11th, with no reason given. I'm praying they do an update and I get the updated one.

Okay, not so much praying, more like hoping.


Come onnnnnn Apple

[blimeyoriley]

2 more days 2 go

2 more days 2 go

la la la lala

then i'll b out of dough

[Yves Creebs]

The second they come out... 15" MBP - multitouch pad - 2.8 Duo Extreme - Penryn - mag latch - for me.

Still using my Dual 1.0 G4 mirrored door tower.

[Wheelie4]

Well, yesterday the order status of my entry level MBP said "Not Yet Shipped". Today it says "Prepared for Shipment" and the config specs still say:

2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB
160GB Serial ATA Drive@5400rpm
SuperDrive 8X
15" Glossy Widescreen Display
No Modem
No iWork Preinstalled
No Final Cut Exp Preinstalled
No Aperture Preinstalled
No Logic Exp Preinstalled
BkLit Keyboard/Mac OS
Country Kit

[Mr. Funsocks]

Well, yesterday the order status of my entry level MBP said "Not Yet Shipped". Today it says "Prepared for Shipment" and the config specs still say:

2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB
160GB Serial ATA Drive@5400rpm
SuperDrive 8X
15" Glossy Widescreen Display
No Modem
No iWork Preinstalled
No Final Cut Exp Preinstalled
No Aperture Preinstalled
No Logic Exp Preinstalled
BkLit Keyboard/Mac OS
Country Kit

How awesome would it be if right when they came out on Tuesday they shipped you the entery level penryn.

[Mr. Funsocks]

Still even if they didn't it would still be sweet if you got a 2.4 SR for the price of a 2.2

[^squirrel^]

Before someone else says it, you might want to provide a screen shot for us.... Great news though!


Well, yesterday the order status of my entry level MBP said "Not Yet Shipped". Today it says "Prepared for Shipment" and the config specs still say:

2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB
160GB Serial ATA Drive@5400rpm
SuperDrive 8X
15" Glossy Widescreen Display
No Modem
No iWork Preinstalled
No Final Cut Exp Preinstalled
No Aperture Preinstalled
No Logic Exp Preinstalled
BkLit Keyboard/Mac OS
Country Kit

[pik.]

great news indeed....;)

[Wheelie4]

How awesome would it be if right when they came out on Tuesday they shipped you the entery level penryn.
That would be sweet. And I'm getting overnight delivery so if i shipped Monday it would be in my hands (figuratively speaking since I'm completely paralized below the neck and can't use my hands) Tuesday afternoon. :)
Still even if they didn't it would still be sweet if you got a 2.4 SR for the price of a 2.2
That's the way I'm looking a it. ;)

[Wheelie4]

Before someone else says it, you might want to provide a screen shot for us.... Great news though!
This what you wanted to see?

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1739/orderhv3.th.png (http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=orderhv3.png)

[TheBigApple2006]

This what you wanted to see?

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1739/orderhv3.th.png (http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=orderhv3.png)

Thanks for all this news Wheelie - you might have inadvertently bumped into the new entry-level MBP specs :) Please keep us updated on the evolution of your order...if it doesn't ship on Monday I guess we are up for the official update on Tuesday...
I wouldn't be surprised if the lower range MBP has the T8300 processor after all - it gives reason to the price differentiation. I doubt that the new Penryn processor will be slower with respect to the previous one, give the whole new instruction set. Either way, should these specs turn out to be indicative of the new MBPs, its good that the HDD at least got bumped an extra 40 GB after over a year at 120 GB. Video card mystery is still there though, do orders usually carry information on the video card?

[McGiord]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A93 Safari/419.3)

I paid thousands for my titanium PowerBook but I never think of longevity when I get a mac. I think of resale value and so every 6-12 months I get a new one and sell the old and it costs me nearly nothing.

I mostly have used desktop macs since 1986, and we used them for several years: Mac Plus, MacIIsi, PowerMac, eMac G4, and the one I currently use is a late 2006 MacBook.
Now I do prefer to use the portables, and I'm waiting to get the soon to come MBP.

Because the portables tend to be updated/improved faster than the desktops your strategy is a nice one, and I would like to do the same in the next months.

Where do you typically sell your used macs??
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[Mr. Funsocks]

So who thinks we are seeing these beautys on Tuesday?

[McGiord]

Thanks for all this news Wheelie - you might have inadvertently bumped into the new entry-level MBP specs :) Please keep us updated on the evolution of your order...if it doesn't ship on Monday I guess we are up for the official update on Tuesday...
I wouldn't be surprised if the lower range MBP has the T8300 processor after all - it gives reason to the price differentiation. I doubt that the new Penryn processor will be slower with respect to the previous one, give the whole new instruction set. Either way, should these specs turn out to be indicative of the new MBPs, its good that the HDD at least got bumped an extra 40 GB after over a year at 120 GB. Video card mystery is still there though, do orders usually carry information on the video card?

Nice for wheelie, but isn't this missing many of the improved/new features that we are expecting?
I understand that :apple: will not disclose anything until their official release, but why are you so happy, please elaborate?
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[TheBigApple2006]

Nice for wheelie, but isn't this missing many of the improved/new features that we are expecting?
I understand that :apple: will not disclose anything until their official release, but why are you so happy, please elaborate?

Well, I'm happy because no matter what, I need to buy a new MBP on Tuesday (have been without laptop for almost 2 months) so I would rather get the upgraded version which obviously gives you better bang for the buck and hopefully will have some of the hardware defects of the previous MBP model (yellowing screen, keyboard freezes, etc.) resolved. Plus of course, a 160 GB standard over 120 GB and possibly a slightly upgraded video card. It makes it worthwhile to have waited between MWSF and now. I don't think we shall be seeing substantial changes, perhaps multi touch trackpad, but keyboard and case will stay the same - I wouldn't bank on the magnetic latch either. Still, it won't be a compelling upgrade for owners of past C2D MBPs, but it will be very alluring for people without a laptop, with a Winblows machine or with a PPC Mac laptop...

[Wheelie4]

Nice for wheelie, but isn't this missing many of the improved/new features that we are expecting?
I understand that :apple: will not disclose anything until their official release, but why are you so happy, please elaborate?
The only reason I'm happy is that instead of them replacing my defective Blackbook (my first mac ever after 5 years of DOS and 13 years of Windows) with another Blackbook, they let me choose to pay the difference and upgrade to a MBP (that 13 inch screen was killing me). And if the specs on my order status are true I'm getting a bit more than I was expecting to get, so more reason for me to be happy since I was expecting a 2.2GHz processor and 120GB drive. :) Still the specs on my status page could be an error.

Plus, I can't wait to be back on OS X. Being on the old Dell with WinXP is odd. WinXP file system/structure feels so archaic and totally unorganized and terribly slow after using OS X for 6 months. :(

[Wolf04]

Nice for wheelie, but isn't this missing many of the improved/new features that we are expecting?
I understand that :apple: will not disclose anything until their official release, but why are you so happy, please elaborate?
I was thinking of the same thing. The specs on the screenshot look like an upgraded MBP. I'm not following. :confused:

[cmm26red]

Thanks for all this news Wheelie - you might have inadvertently bumped into the new entry-level MBP specs :) Please keep us updated on the evolution of your order...if it doesn't ship on Monday I guess we are up for the official update on Tuesday...
I wouldn't be surprised if the lower range MBP has the T8300 processor after all - it gives reason to the price differentiation. I doubt that the new Penryn processor will be slower with respect to the previous one, give the whole new instruction set. Either way, should these specs turn out to be indicative of the new MBPs, its good that the HDD at least got bumped an extra 40 GB after over a year at 120 GB. Video card mystery is still there though, do orders usually carry information on the video card?

I was just looking over the Penryn line as well as the processors currently in Apples laptops and one thing that strikes me is that all of them have a C2D with 4mb of L2. The T9500 and T9300 are at the exact same price point as the T7700 and the T7500 when they were released last summer; $530 and $316. The price dropped on these processors in September to $316 and $241, respectively. The T8300 with its 3mb of L2 comes in at the exact same price point (241) as the current T7500 in the MPBs. This concerns me as I was eyeing the lower end MPB, which I hope will be equipped with the T9300. Also, I looked at Intel’s roadmap and in 2009, the Nehalem chips will be shifting from L2 to a larger L3 cache (24mb in high end servers), and I would not be surprised to see the mobile chips follow suit after the 8mb L3 versions (probably 2010). Given that the new $1999 MPB has a T8300 (which I hope it does not), I think I would have to upgrade to the $2499 model with the T9300 for the sake of my laptop being viable in 3 years with new instruction sets geared towards larger caches.

p.s. This will be my first MAC!

[Mr. Funsocks]

I was thinking of the same thing. The specs on the screenshot look like an upgraded MBP. I'm not following. :confused:

Ovbiously they look like an upgraded MBP. Do you think apple would release the specs of their nexgen MBPs before the release? No. They could just be close the the next baseline specs or they could just be an upgraded mbp. We won't know until Tuesday I guess.

[^squirrel^]

This what you wanted to see?

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1739/orderhv3.th.png (http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=orderhv3.png)

Thanks very much for posting the screenshot.

Very interesting to see that you've been upgraded! It's a shame they dont tell you the GPU, as that's one of the key selling points for myself.

Looks like it's going to happen this tuesday!!!:D

[hossegor]

i cant wait until tuesday :)

one bad thing is i have a reservation on a 2,2 macbookpro and my mac dealer ordered that one for me. so i would have to cancel that one.

i guess they wont be too amused about that :D:D

[Mr. Funsocks]

i guess they wont be too amused about that :D:D

Yeah..... guess not...

[gonnabuyamac]

i sure hope tuesday is the day. that's the day i'm supposed to call apple and set up the replacement for my 2.2 ghz MBP (a 2 month old laptop that has been in for repair 4 times - which was a replacement for a 2.16 MBP that had nearly as many problems). it would be fantastic to get to upgrade - maybe enough to help me forgive and forget all the problems i've had with apple so far... of course, if they'd throw in a free iphone for all my problems that would help too. :rolleyes:

[BlueScreenX]

I sure hope it comes out on tuesday. Been waiting for about a month to switch to :apple:. My PCs have been making me sad :(

If not im still waiting. Not being patient has always burned me in the past.... But i could really use a new laptop.. my old dell is dead (ding dong the witch is dead)... and im without a laptop. I need somthing to run CS3 on as well.

[Mr. Funsocks]

I sure hope it comes out on tuesday. Been waiting for about a month to switch to :apple:. My PCs have been making me sad :(

If not im still waiting. Not being patient has always burned me in the past.... But i could really use a new laptop.. my old dell is dead (ding dong the witch is dead)... and im without a laptop. I need somthing to run CS3 on as well.

I'm in the same boat. I sold my old imac and all my CS3 software is for mac. I thought I was going to get a MBP right away so everything would be fine. But then I read on here they're due for an update. Now I'm using my old windows box and my windows CS3 trials are running out!

[macmadandproud]

"Looks like it's going to happen this tuesday!!!"

I am confused.... there have been a bunch of reports of Apple "upgrading" people for free recently when ordering the lower end MBP. Most seem to think it is just them clearing out inventory to make way for the new.

We all know that new MBP's are coming sometime, but I am curious... what makes you guys think this is an actual new model? The specs perfectly match the current 2.4.

Just curious...
:)

[cmm26red]

"Looks like it's going to happen this tuesday!!!"

I am confused.... there have been a bunch of reports of Apple "upgrading" people for free recently when ordering the lower end MBP. Most seem to think it is just them clearing out inventory to make way for the new.

We all know that new MBP's are coming sometime, but I am curious... what makes you guys think this is an actual new model? The specs perfectly match the current 2.4.

Just curious...
:)
'

I agree given the fact that if it is a new penryn based model, it would be equipped with the T8300 w/ 3mb of L2 and all information I have seen points to the new MPBs having the T9300 and T9500.

[cmm26red]

I am sure most of you guys have seen this, however, for those of you that have not, this comes from a poster called Tailpipe over at apple insider and it sounds reasonable. It was posted on 02-01-2008 at 11:12 AM and the link for reference is below.

"This info comes to you from London via an Englishman working at Apple, (and there are more than you think ;-))

A revised MacBook Pro with a Leopard 10.5.2 update was meant to debut at MacWorld but neither was ready.

The delay for the MBP was caused by Intel Penryn processors not being available due to some production glitch. As we all know, Apple doesn't like to announce products too far ahead of their shipping dates - with the notable exception of the iPhone - so decided to delay the launch. Penryn-based PCs now good to go and begin shipping Monday.

Expect new MBP 15-inch and 17-inch within two weeks. 17-inch gets LED.

New MBP DOES feature a slightly revised case design with the new black keyboard from MBA and a larger trackpad, but is basically very similar to existing design. Think evolution not revolution.

The idea is to achieve a commonality of look across the range.

SSD will be an option offering an exceptionally fast boot time < 30 seconds.

Also seen lurking in the corridors of Cupertino was an aluminum MacBook 13". Initially available in silver, my source reckons annodised black, blue, pink and other colours will be available around September. New MacBooks will be a big story later this year. One of the range (I don't know which, maybe the black one) will have a superior spec that basically makes it a MacBook Pro 13"."

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=83903

[leechlife]

I am sure most of you guys have seen this, however, for those of you that have not, this comes from a poster called Tailpipe over at apple insider and it sounds reasonable. It was posted on 02-01-2008 at 11:12 AM and the link for reference is below.

"This info comes to you from London via an Englishman working at Apple, (and there are more than you think ;-))

A revised MacBook Pro with a Leopard 10.5.2 update was meant to debut at MacWorld but neither was ready.

The delay for the MBP was caused by Intel Penryn processors not being available due to some production glitch. As we all know, Apple doesn't like to announce products too far ahead of their shipping dates - with the notable exception of the iPhone - so decided to delay the launch. Penryn-based PCs now good to go and begin shipping Monday.

Expect new MBP 15-inch and 17-inch within two weeks. 17-inch gets LED.

New MBP DOES feature a slightly revised case design with the new black keyboard from MBA and a larger trackpad, but is basically very similar to existing design. Think evolution not revolution.

The idea is to achieve a commonality of look across the range.

SSD will be an option offering an exceptionally fast boot time < 30 seconds.

Also seen lurking in the corridors of Cupertino was an aluminum MacBook 13". Initially available in silver, my source reckons annodised black, blue, pink and other colours will be available around September. New MacBooks will be a big story later this year. One of the range (I don't know which, maybe the black one) will have a superior spec that basically makes it a MacBook Pro 13"."

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=83903

It's always hard to say if somebody just takes a guess or has valid information.
All of that has been guess around before, even though it sound plausible.
It reflects what i would expect (and hope for).

So u would expect a slight design change towards air style.

let's just hope it's here soon!

[ewxlt]

If enough people want a tree to fall in a forest...will it fall?

I have a feeling our desire for this MBP has very little do with Apple's energy on the issue. Bummer.

[jnc]

If enough people want a tree to fall in a forest...will it fall?

I have a feeling our desire for this MBP has very little do with Apple's energy on the issue. Bummer.

Are you kidding? If we all say "next Tuesday" loud enough, it will come! Just ask all the people who were waiting for a new Mac Pro last July! :D

[Fidgetyrat]

One thing is for sure. If they continue to ship only the 17" with LED even after this future upgrade, I may just hold off buying until the end of the year upgrade.

[gonnabuyamac]

One thing is for sure. If they continue to ship only the 17" with LED even after this future upgrade, I may just hold off buying until the end of the year upgrade.

I'm assuming you meant the 15.4" with the LED display...?

[Paix247]

Edit: what ^ said. :)

[Bennett]

what time does the apple store usually go down (when it DOES go down)?

..a timezone would be nice :)

(i'm in melbourne, AUS)

[phoenixau]

what time does the apple store usually go down (when it DOES go down)?

..a timezone would be nice :)

(i'm in melbourne, AUS)

Last time the applestore for OZ went down for updates was during Macworld and found was live about 9am AEST.

[leechlife]

what time does the apple store usually go down (when it DOES go down)?

..a timezone would be nice :)

(i'm in melbourne, AUS)


Hi sitting in syndey and last tuesday (for the iphone mem upgrade) the us store went down around midnight (ozzy time).

so if u don't crawl to bed too early tomorrow night u might see it happen!!!

cheers

[Sannekita]

We will know tomorrow!!

[t56]

Come on apple!!! MBP. I been waiting since oct. I really hope that it will be out tomorrow, but for some reason i think apple is going to release either:
time camsule and/or aperture. If MBP come out tomorrw and its a minor update and does not have blu-ray, i think i'm going to get mac mini and wait. I really need my MBP to last at least 3 years.

What do you guys think? should i wait for the blu-ray or ******* it.?

[jnc]

Come on apple!!! MBP. I been waiting since oct. I really hope that it will be out tomorrow, but for some reason i think apple is going to release either:
time camsule and/or aperture. If MBP come out tomorrw and its a minor update and does not have blu-ray, i think i'm going to get mac mini and wait. I really need my MBP to last at least 3 years.

What do you guys think? should i wait for the blu-ray or ******* it.?

Do not expect Blu Ray any time soon.

[JaySoul]

Another date comes and goes...

It isn't going to happen in February now, doubt it. Stay parched in March. They will, in April. Maybe May, see. June's too soon. Why July? Or just August.

This isn't a high priority issue for Apple anymore, they have bigger fish to fry - I told you they was trouble!!

[dmb3886]

Another date comes and goes...

It isn't going to happen in February now, doubt it. Stay parched in March. They will, in April. Maybe May, see. June's too soon. Why July? Or just August.

This isn't a high priority issue for Apple anymore, they have bigger fish to fry - I told you they was trouble!!

noooooo, shunnnnnn the nonbelieverrrr
(charlie the unicorn)

[phannon666]

The date hasn't been yet. Its tomorrow we're waiting for! And all those rhymes were unnecessary...

[pik.]

:apple: Apple!!!!!!!:apple:

and every tuesday gets exciting....!!!!!!:p

[dasein]

Do not expect Blu Ray any time soon.

I honestly don't understand the need for Blu Ray. Given where things are moving (wireless with faster and more reliable throughput), SSDs, etc... what's the main attraction/need? I rarely use the DVD reader I've got now. Who would something like Blu Ray be targeted for?

[bogg]

what time does the apple store usually go down (when it DOES go down)?

..a timezone would be nice :)

(i'm in melbourne, AUS)


Unannounced downtimes for store/product updates usually happens around 14:00 GMT+1... so Melbourne, ...GMT+11? sometime around midnight then...

[Digital Skunk]

I honestly don't understand the need for Blu Ray. Given where things are moving (wireless with faster and more reliable throughput), SSDs, etc... what's the main attraction/need? I rarely use the DVD reader I've got now. Who would something like Blu Ray be targeted for?

Because people just like gadgets, and they want what everyone else has. It's the consumer syndrome. They want it because it's new and it's cool and it's there.

BluRay isn't going to be some big standard that everyone adopts and millions of people trash their DVD players for. Right now it's still too expensive and the market doesn't know where it's going so BluRay and HD-DVD are going to sit on the fence and wait for the population to decide.

With a write speed of up to 4x burning 50GB of data would be murder, and for the cost of the drive and the discs you could just pay the $350 for a terabyte harddrive and enclosure and backup your stuff that way. The movie quality is wonderful though, but I doubt the majority of people that have both a decent TV and a DVD player have been begging for higher quality movies, and that many people sit down and stare into their screen looking for imperfections in their shadows.

BluRay is nice, but from it looks like movies on optical media will just become a small market like VHS did in the late 90s. Now that Apple has movie rentals I will be buying an Apple TV after possibly one more update to the hardware and I will be renting the movies right from my couch like the fat @$$ American I am. :D

[Wheelie4]

Today my order status has change from "Prepared for Shipment" to "Shipped" with a FedEx tracking number. The config list is the same as yesterday. Even though the order status page shows Shipping Method as Overnight, FedEx's tracking page says shipped on 11th with expected delivery date on the 14th.

[phuong]

optical drives will be obsolete in a very near future. it will be replaced with flash memory. heck, nowadays even a card reader has 512MB capacity at least, and a card the size of a finger nail that can easily store 8GB of data is not that uncommon. that's equivalent to 2 single layer DVD.
most softwares, music, and videos are now sold (downloaded) via internet. some vendors even starting to sell softwares via read-only memory card.

i can't remember the last time i use my CD drive. my blank DVD stack has been collecting dusts since forever now. why would people need to burn DVDs anyore while they can easily and quickly copy stuffs to their keychain usb drive anyways? it doesn't make sense. and why would they backup their data on DVDs while they can do it much faster and more reliable with harddrives.

furthermore, storing backups on harddrives (or NAS for that matter) makes it much faster and easier to access, as opposed to dividing your data on tens if not hundreds of DVDs and take them in and out and in and out whenever you need access. it's a very tedious process. it is surprising it isn't obsoleted yet.

i really hope the next Macbook Pro won't have optical drives at all. you can do a lot more useful things with that extra space.

[tothelimit]

the day is almost upon us. i've grown pretty skeptical though. i have a feeling we may just see another run of software updates tomorrow. possibly 10.5.2? take2 is knocking on the door of its (SECOND) deadline...

we'll see.

[TheBigApple2006]

question for Wheelie - any news on your order? Has it been shipped today (monday) or is it still delayed? thanks

[3247]

optical drives will be obsolete in a very near future. it will be replaced with flash memory. heck, nowadays even a card reader has 512MB capacity at least, ...Not for movies. The manufacturing cost for DVDs is below one EUR; BluRay will soon be in the same range. (re-)writeable disc will be slightly more expensive.

32 GB (less than BluRay) of flash memory are still way above 100 EUR.

[UMHurricanes34]

Blu-Ray is not something anyone should have on their minds for a MBP update.

Blu-Ray drives dont even exist in the thin, slot-loading form factor that Apple uses in their laptops.


And it's not worth having anytime soon either.


Slooooooooooooow.

[djellison]

optical drives will be obsolete in a very near future.

Complete and utter nonsense. There are billions of DVD players out there, there are millions of high-def players out there, a number increasing rapidly. Online purchasing of movies isn't taking of, and nor will it - people want to buy a physical object. Optical media has a decade or more life in it yet.

You say you don't want an optical drive? Fine - buy an MBA. But I wouldn't buy an optical drive free Mac. I would actually switch BACK to a PC if that were the only offering.

[Wheelie4]

question for Wheelie - any news on your order? Has it been shipped today (monday) or is it still delayed? thanks
Hehe, Post #325 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=4939423&postcount=325) :)
Today my order status has change from "Prepared for Shipment" to "Shipped" with a FedEx tracking number. The config list is the same as yesterday. Even though the order status page shows Shipping Method as Overnight, FedEx's tracking page says shipped on 11th with expected delivery date on the 14th.
As you can see here:
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1613/order2ob9.th.png (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=order2ob9.png)

[Stella]

Hehe, Post #325 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=4939423&postcount=325) :)

In others, no new MBP tomorrow

[GooglEyes]

optical drives will be obsolete in a very near future. it will be replaced with flash memory. heck, nowadays even a card reader has 512MB capacity at least, and a card the size of a finger nail that can easily store 8GB of data is not that uncommon. that's equivalent to 2 single layer DVD.
most softwares, music, and videos are now sold (downloaded) via internet. some vendors even starting to sell softwares via read-only memory card.

i can't remember the last time i use my CD drive. my blank DVD stack has been collecting dusts since forever now. why would people need to burn DVDs anyore while they can easily and quickly copy stuffs to their keychain usb drive anyways? it doesn't make sense. and why would they backup their data on DVDs while they can do it much faster and more reliable with harddrives.

furthermore, storing backups on harddrives (or NAS for that matter) makes it much faster and easier to access, as opposed to dividing your data on tens if not hundreds of DVDs and take them in and out and in and out whenever you need access. it's a very tedious process. it is surprising it isn't obsoleted yet.

i really hope the next Macbook Pro won't have optical drives at all. you can do a lot more useful things with that extra space.

Personally, a Pro level machine without an optical drive for me would be completely useless so I hope that never happens! Both my husband and I burn CDs for our clients every day.

[Wheelie4]

In others, no new MBP tomorrow

Well, I guess I won't be receiving anything tomorrow. Until it does get here I have no clue what I'm getting. While on the phone with the Product Specialist about my 3rd time defective black macbook he decided the best action was to replace it with a new black macbook. That's when I asked to be able to pay the difference and upgrade to an entry level MBP. He said that's doable. He went over the specs for the MBP which were identical to the current entry level MBP. Then connected me with a sales rep who again read off the same specs then e-mailed me with this below quote in it.
Per our conversation, Apple has agreed to replace your MB 13/2.16/2X512/160/SD-DL:BLACK with a MBP 15/2.2/2X1GB/120-5400/128VRAM (MA895LL/A). Because you have elected to upgrade to a product other than what Apple has offered, you also agree to pay 500 for this upgraded product. Apple will bill your credit card for this amount plus all applicable sales tax. Please respond to this email with your approval.
I replied with my approval. So that was 3 confirmations of me getting a 2.2GHz, 120GB HDD entry level MBP. The next day the sales rep e-mails me a order number and link to the order status page but thats were my confusion began. It lists a 2.4GHz. 160GB HDD. I called the sales rep to confirm they are selling me an entry level MBP for $500 and not a mid-level MBP for $1000 and she confirmed I'm getting the entry level MBP for $500 and not a mid-level MBP for $1000. I left it at that and said thank you. So until it arrives I'm as confused about what I'm getting as everyone else here is. :)

[boysdontcry]

Hey guys. So I was tired of waiting and bought the 15" 2.2 Macbook Pro on February 1st. It was supposed to ship the 4th-6th. The night of the 6th I called Apple and they said it's supposed to ship today. The next morning I went to the site and it said Shipping Feb. 11-13th and arriving the 16th-18th. I assumed then that there would be a new model arriving at my office. I called Apple and said I wan't pleased with the delay and said I would return whatever came (I was really just banking on the new model coming out the 5th or 12th). They said for my troubles there would be no re-stocking fee, I'd get a full refund and they sent me shipping labels. I got an email Saturday the 9th that it shipped. I got a box today at my office. I assume it's the current model. The label has a model number of A1226 and a Part Number Z0EB0019Y. So now I have the box unopened and an email with FedEx shipping labels for return. Can someone please confirm I definitely have the current model sitting in this box? If the newer model comes out tomorrow I will return this tomorrow and get the new. Thanks guys.

[Wheelie4]

Hey guys. So I was tired of waiting and bought the 15" 2.2 Macbook Pro on February 1st. It was supposed to ship the 4th-6th. The night of the 6th I called Apple and they said it's supposed to ship today. The next morning I went to the site and it said Shipping Feb. 11-13th and arriving the 16th-18th. I assumed then that there would be a new model arriving at my office. I called Apple and said I wan't pleased with the delay and said I would return whatever came (I was really just banking on the new model coming out the 5th or 12th). They said for my troubles there would be no re-stocking fee, I'd get a full refund and they sent me shipping labels. I got an email Saturday the 9th that it shipped. I got a box today at my office. I assume it's the current model. The label has a model number of A1226 and a Part Number Z0EB0019Y. So now I have the box unopened and an email with FedEx shipping labels for return. Can someone please confirm I definitely have the current model sitting in this box? If the newer model comes out tomorrow I will return this tomorrow and get the new. Thanks guys.

I googled that part # and got a link to this post from november. Once there scroll up.
http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=532730

[Mr. Funsocks]

Can someone please confirm I definitely have the current model sitting in this box? If the newer model comes out tomorrow I will return this tomorrow and get the new. Thanks guys.

You obviously have the current model. It's not like apple would ship you a new one before they announced it. There's no point in checking.

[michaelsviews]

Hey guys. So I was tired of waiting and bought the 15" 2.2 Macbook Pro on February 1st. It was supposed to ship the 4th-6th. The night of the 6th I called Apple and they said it's supposed to ship today. The next morning I went to the site and it said Shipping Feb. 11-13th and arriving the 16th-18th. I assumed then that there would be a new model arriving at my office. I called Apple and said I wan't pleased with the delay and said I would return whatever came (I was really just banking on the new model coming out the 5th or 12th). They said for my troubles there would be no re-stocking fee, I'd get a full refund and they sent me shipping labels. I got an email Saturday the 9th that it shipped. I got a box today at my office. I assume it's the current model. The label has a model number of A1226 and a Part Number Z0EB0019Y. So now I have the box unopened and an email with FedEx shipping labels for return. Can someone please confirm I definitely have the current model sitting in this box? If the newer model comes out tomorrow I will return this tomorrow and get the new. Thanks guys.

Just wait till the end of the week and than ship it out

[quixotic]

Complete and utter nonsense. There are billions of DVD players out there, there are millions of high-def players out there, a number increasing rapidly. Online purchasing of movies isn't taking of, and nor will it - people want to buy a physical object. Optical media has a decade or more life in it yet.

You say you don't want an optical drive? Fine - buy an MBA. But I wouldn't buy an optical drive free Mac. I would actually switch BACK to a PC if that were the only offering.

Yeah, I think optical is here to stay for awhile, HVD's will see to that. I'm just remembering that it wasn't that long ago I was peeved that my G4 tower didn't have a 3.5" drive (almost a deal breaker).

[boysdontcry]

Got it. Thanks for that. I'll hold on to it for another week or so.

[John Purple]

I just checked the internet shop of one of the biggest :apple: dealers in Germany. He offers six different configurations of MBP on his site. Three of them are not available at the moment, one is low in stock, only two are 'green'.
Maybe Tuesday?

[michaelsviews]

I just checked the internet shop of one of the biggest :apple: dealers in Germany. He offers six different configurations of MBP on his site. Three of them are not available at the moment, one is low in stock, only two are 'green'.
Maybe Tuesday?

Mite want to bounce back and forth to Engadgets site, didn't that site release about the iPhone and iPod Touch updates like 5 hours ahead of time and I think , don't quote me even before Apple had updated there site?

Just a thought. :p

[pYrana13]

I just checked the internet shop of one of the biggest :apple: dealers in Germany. He offers six different configurations of MBP on his site. Three of them are not available at the moment, one is low in stock, only two are 'green'.
Maybe Tuesday?

currently, i study in germany. I would like to know, what is the name of the internet shop?

tq

[^squirrel^]

I just checked the internet shop of one of the biggest :apple: dealers in Germany. He offers six different configurations of MBP on his site. Three of them are not available at the moment, one is low in stock, only two are 'green'.
Maybe Tuesday?

What German firm is that? (are we allowed to post company names?)

[mgargan1]

I have the current MBP, and to be honest, I think i've used my optical drive twice in the 8 months I've owned it. That being said, i don't think I would want to have a machine without an optical drive, because one of those times was to upgrade to Leopard. I can't imagine a smooth upgrade path for people without optical drives... at least not yet.

I'm don't think i'll be as excited about this release but more 2 releases from now when intel's Penryn successor, Nahelem, is out. Then that'll be a huge upgrade performance-wise.

[Watabou]

optical drives will be obsolete in a very near future. it will be replaced with flash memory. heck, nowadays even a card reader has 512MB capacity at least, and a card the size of a finger nail that can easily store 8GB of data is not that uncommon. that's equivalent to 2 single layer DVD.
most softwares, music, and videos are now sold (downloaded) via internet. some vendors even starting to sell softwares via read-only memory card.

i can't remember the last time i use my CD drive. my blank DVD stack has been collecting dusts since forever now. why would people need to burn DVDs anyore while they can easily and quickly copy stuffs to their keychain usb drive anyways? it doesn't make sense. and why would they backup their data on DVDs while they can do it much faster and more reliable with harddrives.

furthermore, storing backups on harddrives (or NAS for that matter) makes it much faster and easier to access, as opposed to dividing your data on tens if not hundreds of DVDs and take them in and out and in and out whenever you need access. it's a very tedious process. it is surprising it isn't obsoleted yet.

i really hope the next Macbook Pro won't have optical drives at all. you can do a lot more useful things with that extra space.


I on the other hand won't buy a mac if the macbook pro would not have an optical drive. Whatever apple thinks, I need an optical drive built in. Why should I rent movies that I already have? Why should I buy a seperate 100 dollar device if I can just insert DVD into it? It doesn't make sense to not have an optical drive on a mackbook "pro". I guess it is okay in the mackbook air but not on the pro line.

[pointycollars]

...
i really hope the next Macbook Pro won't have optical drives at all. you can do a lot more useful things with that extra space.

I actually hope they don't get rid of the optical drive. It would make it more difficult to install new software or do an OS reinstall, and I'd like to be able to easily rip music to my iTunes without having to go through a secondary device or computer to do so.

[zephyrnoid]

I'm with you. Besides, for cheap distribution of legally transferable content, you can't beat a $.50 CDR or a $1.00 DVD. So until ONE or at most TWO removable flash media sizes become ubiquitous, we need those round silver discs. I reckon the round discs have about 10 years of life left in them.:D

Complete and utter nonsense. There are billions of DVD players out there, there are millions of high-def players out there, a number increasing rapidly. Online purchasing of movies isn't taking of, and nor will it - people want to buy a physical object. Optical media has a decade or more life in it yet.

You say you don't want an optical drive? Fine - buy an MBA. But I wouldn't buy an optical drive free Mac. I would actually switch BACK to a PC if that were the only offering.

[aiterum]

10.5.2. just released... so maybe this means something is happening tomorrow?

[Pukey]

10.5.2. just released... so maybe this means something is happening tomorrow?

This would appear to be a good sign for new MBPs tomorrow, eh?

[saschke]

This would appear to be a good sign for new MBPs tomorrow, eh?

yes it is... we will see *something* tomorrow!

[cnote678]

My Dell is on ebay right now and I am so excited to be buying a MacBook Pro-the NEW one, if it EVER gets here! So, with the advent of the thin-style keyboard on the MacBook, the iMac AND now the Air, will they put it on the Pro? I think it would multiply the sexy factor by about 20. Thoughts?

[saschke]

My Dell is on ebay right now and I am so excited to be buying a MacBook Pro-the NEW one, if it EVER gets here! So, with the advent of the thin-style keyboard on the MacBook, the iMac AND now the Air, will they put it on the Pro? I think it would multiply the sexy factor by about 20. Thoughts?

the current keyboards are just fine. got the standard usb-keyboard hooked to my mbp and it's great, too. i am totally indifferent but the new-style keyboard would quadruple the chance of design refinements to the line come the new machines...

[cnote678]

What exactly are you implying, regarding design refinements? I'm not quite understanding. I think the only thing the line needs badly is LED's on the MacBook. At any rate, a new keyboard is more likely than the radical move of no optical drive.

[tennisplaayer11]

This would appear to be a good sign for new MBPs tomorrow, eh?

Hopefully so.

[phuong]

Complete and utter nonsense. There are billions of DVD players out there, there are millions of high-def players out there, a number increasing rapidly. Online purchasing of movies isn't taking of, and nor will it - people want to buy a physical object. Optical media has a decade or more life in it yet.

You say you don't want an optical drive? Fine - buy an MBA. But I wouldn't buy an optical drive free Mac. I would actually switch BACK to a PC if that were the only offering.

the day a 4GB flash card costs the same as the price of a blank re-writeable DVD today, and a 120 GB SSD costs the same as a 120GB disk-dur today, that stack of 1,0000000000000 DVDs and readers will be gone within 3-5 years.

flash cards are more secure, more portable, faster accessible, scratch-proof, weather-proof, et cetera. you name it.

do you see any VHS tape anymore?

[catchdry]

My first post here!

Been waiting for a new MacBookPro too long now. If a new one comes out tomorrow I will buy immediately.
Was considering MacBookAir but no thanks. I have to have optical drive and firewire. But the size though, temptating...

Fingers crossed for tomorrow:)

[txhil]

Oh man, there are some great posts in here. Thanks txhil and Russet!

And on the point just brought up about Apple, I agree. It would be nice to see them get more and more customers, but if Apple grew lax like Microsoft after gaining a huge following and started turning out half-baked products that would be very disappointing. If Microsoft turns around and starts putting out better stuff to provide more competition for Apple, then that would be something. Oh well, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it...
My dog told me the next MBP update is sometime in the future.

Your dog and my dog are speaking the same language

[haggis444]

10.5.2. just released... so maybe this means something is happening tomorrow?

So if they were waiting for 10.5.2 for the new MBP, wouldn't that mean they have to have time to "install" it on all of the hardware making a tomorrow MBP update unlikely? I want to be wrong, just preparing myself for yet another disappointing Tuesday.

[JDR]

So if they were waiting for 10.5.2 for the new MBP, wouldn't that mean they have to have time to "install" it on all of the hardware making a tomorrow MBP update unlikely? I want to be wrong, just preparing myself for yet another disappointing Tuesday.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but when Steve announces new products (at whatever venue it may be) doesn't he usually say "..and it's shipping TODAY" or something like that?

[aiterum]

So if they were waiting for 10.5.2 for the new MBP, wouldn't that mean they have to have time to "install" it on all of the hardware making a tomorrow MBP update unlikely? I want to be wrong, just preparing myself for yet another disappointing Tuesday.

I don't really think that 10.5.2. was just finished Today. Chances are they've had it ready long enough to start pre-installing it on some machines

[firedog]

If it does happen tomorrow, what's the best route to purchase one? We have a Mac Store and Mac Authority Store here in Nashville. Or, purchase one on-line? I get a government discount, but I really don't care so much about the price at this point. I've been waiting since the fall of '07. This is my first Mac. Vista was the last straw for me, but I will still fund my habits by working on Windows machines.

Thanks in Advance, dm

[marclapierre13]

Ill believe it when I see it.
Im sick and tired of all these rumours every week " Maybe this tuesday!"

nope!

Maybe next tuesday? or the next???

When it happens, Ill be thrilled. Until then, thanks for playing.

[gonnabuyamac]

please let tomorrow be the day! apple called me last friday to inform me that they are going to replace my macbook pro - which itself is a replacement for a previous MBP. i'm supposed to call this week to set it up. i got a new model the last time, so if they come out with new models tomorrow, i'll get yet another upgrade. that would be fantastic!

[marclapierre13]

My Dell is on ebay right now and I am so excited to be buying a MacBook Pro-the NEW one, if it EVER gets here! So, with the advent of the thin-style keyboard on the MacBook, the iMac AND now the Air, will they put it on the Pro? I think it would multiply the sexy factor by about 20. Thoughts?

Why on earth would they do that???
If they did that, I will not be upgrading my MBP. I will keep my current one.
You know why the current MBs and MBA have the current keyboard they do? Because they are cheaper. Not backlit, they dont have a smooth type feel, they have a more clunky feel. The MBP has a more professional keyboard, smooth, less clacky, feels better under your fingers. Now I also have a new apple wireless keyboard, and I dont mind it, but for prolonged use, I would not use it...mostly entertainment.
New keyboard that matches MB will decrease the sexy factor by 20% imo.

[jbg232]

Why on earth would they do that???
If they did that, I will not be upgrading my MBP. I will keep my current one.
You know why the current MBs and MBA have the current keyboard they do? Because they are cheaper. Not backlit, they dont have a smooth type feel, they have a more clunky feel. The MBP has a more professional keyboard, smooth, less clacky, feels better under your fingers. Now I also have a new apple wireless keyboard, and I dont mind it, but for prolonged use, I would not use it...mostly entertainment.
New keyboard that matches MB will decrease the sexy factor by 20% imo.

The macbook air keyboard IS backlit and is quite nice from when I looked at in the apple store.

[gonnabuyamac]

Why on earth would they do that???
If they did that, I will not be upgrading my MBP. I will keep my current one.
You know why the current MBs and MBA have the current keyboard they do? Because they are cheaper. Not backlit, they dont have a smooth type feel, they have a more clunky feel. The MBP has a more professional keyboard, smooth, less clacky, feels better under your fingers. Now I also have a new apple wireless keyboard, and I dont mind it, but for prolonged use, I would not use it...mostly entertainment.
New keyboard that matches MB will decrease the sexy factor by 20% imo.

um... the macbook air has a backlit keyboard

i was beat...

[marclapierre13]

The macbook air keyboard IS backlit and is quite nice from when I looked at in the apple store.

I stand corrected. I heard it was like the MB. I much prefer the MBP professional keyboard, to the less practical MB keyboard.

[G.I. Joe]

With todays OS X 10.5.2 released I believe i'll see an update tomorrow. ;)

[jbg232]

I stand corrected. I heard it was like the MB. I much prefer the MBP professional keyboard, to the less practical MB keyboard.

It's bad form to make negative claims of products you have never seen in person. Plus, the current MBP keyboard does not have itunes controller actions... definitely a helpful feature that you shouldn't be so quick to judge without trying out.

[thebeat]

we will definitely see an update by the end of this month, that's for sure. Tomorrow is an 80% chance.

[Wheelie4]

Swammi says tomorrow. But he might be drinking. ;)

[cnote678]

Why on earth would they do that???
If they did that, I will not be upgrading my MBP. I will keep my current one.
You know why the current MBs and MBA have the current keyboard they do? Because they are cheaper. Not backlit, they dont have a smooth type feel, they have a more clunky feel. The MBP has a more professional keyboard, smooth, less clacky, feels better under your fingers. Now I also have a new apple wireless keyboard, and I dont mind it, but for prolonged use, I would not use it...mostly entertainment.
New keyboard that matches MB will decrease the sexy factor by 20% imo.

I can't say that I've used the new keyboard type EXTENSIVELY, but riddle me this: the new keyboards must be getting great response if they're on the MB, the Air and all the desktops, so why NOT switch? The Air keyboard looks totally awesome and I think they feel good-I mean personally, the current MBP keyboard is just like any other keyboard(i.e. Dell, HP) but with backlighting. I think they'll be going with the new style keyboard on the new Pro. So, the question now remains: will it be iMac white or Air black? I'm indifferent here, just wanting other perspectives.

[TatsuTerror]

I can't say that I've used the new keyboard type EXTENSIVELY, but riddle me this: the new keyboards must be getting great response if they're on the MB, the Air and all the desktops, so why NOT switch? The Air keyboard looks totally awesome and I think they feel good-I mean personally, the current MBP keyboard is just like any other keyboard(i.e. Dell, HP) but with backlighting. I think they'll be going with the new style keyboard on the new Pro. So, the question now remains: will it be iMac white or Air black? I'm indifferent here, just wanting other perspectives.Maybe they'll give us an option.

[Watabou]

Swammi says tomorrow. But he might be drinking. ;)

Who/What is that?

[Wheelie4]

Who/What is that?

Was just a joke. The Swammi knows all kinda thing. :D

[chazzonline]

Seems the long wait is over ! Mac OSX 10.5.2 update has been released ! which makes it all clear 4 the much awaited MBP. Finally time has come to lighten our wallets and go 4 new MacBook Pro , which will almost certainly feature Multitouch Trackpad, Intel Penryn 45nm Processors (T9100,T9300 hopefully) , we dont want 3MB L2 cache do we . Yeah some sources suggest that it might have Video GFX upgrade ( maybe nVidia 8700 MGT), hard disk option of SSD is also on the cards though chances are mearge. Shell design change is unlikely and LED display on the 17" is a possibilities.

So all this freaky rumours make us cross our fingers and hope that some angel provokes steve jobs to release the MBP .. kudos MacBookAir ! Its PRO time !!

[Watabou]

Seems the long wait is over ! Mac OSX 10.5.2 update has been released ! which makes it all clear 4 the much awaited MBP. Finally time has come to lighten our wallets and go 4 new MacBook Pro , which will almost certainly feature Multitouch Trackpad, Intel Penryn 45nm Processors (T9300,T9500 hopefully) , we dont want 3MB L2 cache do we . Yeah some sources suggest that it might have Video GFX upgrade ( maybe nVidia 8700 MGT), hard disk option of SSD is also on the cards though chances are mearge. Shell design change is unlikely and LED display on the 17" is a possibilities.

So all this freaky rumours make us cross our fingers and hope that some angel provokes steve jobs to release the MBP .. kudos MacBookAir ! Its PRO time !!


So you're saying on the two high end MBP will be updated and not the lower end one?

I don't really think Apple would choose Extreme though...

[Mr. Funsocks]

God I'm so excited now. But I really don't want to get my hopes up.

[michaelsviews]

FYI

Downloading 10.5.2 as I type this.

341 Meg

[sfwalter]

yeah I agree I think many people were disappointed when the mbp's weren't released last Tuesday, especially when the store went down.

I have to go to a training class tomorrow morning without internet access. So when I check the Internet at lunch time maybe Apple will suprise me. But I'm not getting my hopes up.

[Mr. Funsocks]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but when Steve announces new products (at whatever venue it may be) doesn't he usually say "..and it's shipping TODAY" or something like that?

That's a good point. They may be out tomorrow, but will they be available tomorrow?

[ewxlt]

That's a good point. They may be out tomorrow, but will they be available tomorrow?

As if someone would actually be able to answer that question with any certainty whatsoever....

[thebeat]

if they come out tomorrow, we will have to wait 2 weeks for them to ship in order for us to buy it.

[michaelsviews]

if they come out tomorrow, we will have to wait 2 weeks for them to ship in order for us to buy it.

I would say your WRONG on this and this is why , when the 16 gig iPhones came out they were at the AT&T and Apple store OVERNIGHT, if all of my reading misleads me , as far as having them in the store than fine I am incorrect, but over all I would think that they would be in the stores ASAP meaning overnight. OR by COB on Friday

[marclapierre13]

I have used the MB
I own a MBP
I own a new alum. wireless Keyboard

The only thing I dont have experience with is the MBA, which as I said, i was under the impression had the same keyboard as the MB.

For brief, and entertainment use, I dont mind the MB and alum. keyboard. But it has a clacky, arcadey feel. The MBP has a smooth, and slick keyboard. Its just better in every way.

[Mr. Funsocks]

I would say your WRONG on this and this is why , when the 16 gig iPhones came out they were at the AT&T and Apple store OVERNIGHT, if all of my reading misleads me , as far as having them in the store than fine I am incorrect, but over all I would think that they would be in the stores ASAP meaning overnight. OR by COB on Friday

True. I think it kind of has to do with the availability of the product. If they sent out stock to all the stores, then they will be out tomorrow. If not (like the air) then they will be available in a few weeks.

[Mr. Funsocks]

I have used the MB
I own a MBP
I own a new alum. wireless Keyboard

The only thing I dont have experience with is the MBA, which as I said, i was under the impression had the same keyboard as the MB.

For brief, and entertainment use, I dont mind the MB and alum. keyboard. But it has a clacky, arcadey feel. The MBP has a smooth, and slick keyboard. Its just better in every way.

I'm buying it whatever keyboard it has on it. Not really a dealbreakter for me. I do wish they don't put a black keyboard on it though.

[chazzonline]

So you're saying on the two high end MBP will be updated and not the lower end one?

I don't really think Apple would choose Extreme though...

yeah neither do i but there is a possibility ! i think 9100 and 9300 shud be evident

[Mr. Funsocks]

omg im so excited...:D

Same. Don't freak out to much. Don't want to get your hopes up.

[YELLOWSOUL]

Same. Don't freak out to much. Don't want to get your hopes up.

i know i can't help it! *crosses fingers again for 2nd week in a row...*

[thesdx]

Why on earth would they do that???
If they did that, I will not be upgrading my MBP. I will keep my current one.
You know why the current MBs and MBA have the current keyboard they do? Because they are cheaper. Not backlit, they dont have a smooth type feel, they have a more clunky feel. The MBP has a more professional keyboard, smooth, less clacky, feels better under your fingers. Now I also have a new apple wireless keyboard, and I dont mind it, but for prolonged use, I would not use it...mostly entertainment.
New keyboard that matches MB will decrease the sexy factor by 20% imo.

The MB keyboard is the best keyboard I've ever typed on. The keys are nicely separated and makes it easier and quicker to type on.

[chazzonline]

Was just a joke. The Swammi knows all kinda thing. :D

Dude seriously i think u might get the new mbp . But it could also be a mistake n u cud receive the mid end existing mbp. either way its win win 4 u . cheers . n yeah its swami n not swammi .. obviously he knows everything as swami means god in sanskrit !

[Mr. Funsocks]

Dude seriously i think u might get the new mbp . But it could also be a mistake n u cud receive the mid end existing mbp. either way its win win 4 u . cheers . n yeah its swami n not swammi .. obviously he knows everything as swami means god in sanskrit !

What? Speak English man!

[skyrider007]

It's the 12th already!

[firedog]

Ok, I believe that the one thing that we all agree on is--nobody can be for certain of when. So, help a "convert" out and tell how and where to buy it.

[chazzonline]

What? Speak English man!

hah somebody used da word swami .. y blame me .. nyways hope v get the MBP in a few hours

[dmb3886]

lettsss goooo!

and guys, i forgot to mention, yesterday when i was in the apple store looking at the air - i was talking to one of the reps, and i said "wellllll im waiting for the macbook pro even though this is kinda cool ;)"

then he gave me a funny nervous look, and looked away..none the less it was prominent enough that it raised suspicions

in a no homo way, i should put that in there

[macman2342]

I'm new at this... so will the store go down at midnight pacific time? 9am tomorrow?? Could be any time?? If this is going to happen, when do you think it will happen?

Also, if we don't see a new keyboard or some sort case redesign... when do you expect that?

[Watabou]

What? Speak English man!

Allow me to translate! :)

Original post:

Dude seriously i think u might get the new mbp . But it could also be a mistake n u cud receive the mid end existing mbp. either way its win win 4 u . cheers . n yeah its swami n not swammi .. obviously he knows everything as swami means god in sanskrit !

Translated post:

I think you seriously might get the new Macbook Pro. However, it might be just a coincidence and a mistake by Apple. Either way, it is a win-win situation for you. Cheers! And also, it's "Swami" instead of "Swammi". Swami knows everything basically because it translates into "god" in sanskrit.


There. All better.

[cnote678]

I'm buying it whatever keyboard it has on it. Not really a dealbreakter for me. I do wish they don't put a black keyboard on it though.

I'd have to agree here-the white keyboard with aluminum does look really great. I think it adds to the professional look personally-it would also add an ambiance of 'holiness' to the MBP: those glorious white keys gleaming in the dark...my fingers are crossed!

[thebeat]

I would say your WRONG on this and this is why , when the 16 gig iPhones came out they were at the AT&T and Apple store OVERNIGHT, if all of my reading misleads me , as far as having them in the store than fine I am incorrect, but over all I would think that they would be in the stores ASAP meaning overnight. OR by COB on Friday

oh cool, I never knew that, hopefully its out tomorrow then!

[GooglEyes]

I'd have to agree here-the white keyboard with aluminum does look really great. I think it adds to the professional look personally-it would also add an ambiance of 'holiness' to the MBP: those glorious white keys gleaming in the dark...my fingers are crossed!

I still really prefer the current look of the MBP keyboard, but I'm buying a new one no matter what keyboard it has. (I'm using a Pismo right now!!!)

I do think the white MB style keyboard would look much better than the black though. Only one concern about it—I have seen display models of those (the white ones) end up looking very dingy after a while. I know display mods take a lot of abuse, but does anyone know if they clean up well. Or, once they get dingy do they stay that way no matter what you try?

[TUD]

Cross post;

I want the see an updated MBP just as much as anyone else, but I think tomorrow will only be the official shipment (release) of the Time Capsule.

[pdechavez]

Cross post;

I want the see an updated MBP just as much as anyone else, but I think tomorrow will only be the official shipment (release) of the Time Capsule.

ahh crap, i forgot bout the that time capsule! i hope not tho....wud ruin everything!

[Glax69]

Ok, I believe that the one thing that we all agree on is--nobody can be for certain of when. So, help a "convert" out and tell how and where to buy it.

If it's available at stores tomorrow---obviously physically buying it at a store would get it to you quicker....

If it's not at stores, but shipping---go to www.apple.com/store

[pdechavez]

When new gear comes to US apple stores, Does it come out the same time in Canada apple store?

[JDR]

I'm new at this... so will the store go down at midnight pacific time? 9am tomorrow?? Could be any time?? If this is going to happen, when do you think it will happen?


Last Tuesday the Apple Store went down around 3:30 AM Pacific Time and went back up before (or around) 6:00 AM Pacific.

[cnote678]

I still really prefer the current look of the MBP keyboard, but I'm buying a new one no matter what keyboard it has. (I'm using a Pismo right now!!!)

I do think the white MB style keyboard would look much better than the black though. Only one concern about it—I have seen display models of those (the white ones) end up looking very dingy after a while. I know display mods take a lot of abuse, but does anyone know if they clean up well. Or, once they get dingy do they stay that way no matter what you try?

I did some research on this, and the fact that initially the white MB's got dingy almost immediately. Apple fixed the problem and as far as I know, dinginess on all white Mac plastic cleans up pretty well, keys included. That said, anything that goes for too long without cleaning will stain eventually. I'm still hoping for the white keys!

[seantyas]

Ah it is Tuesday in Switzerland.. woooo.. "Redfive standing by..."

[thebeat]

When new gear comes to US apple stores, Does it come out the same time in Canada apple store?

no, it always comes out 1-2 weeks after the US release. I am from Canada and they told me that's how it works.

me: "ARE THE CORE 2 DUO MACBOOK PROS OUT?!"
lady who works for Apple with a smile in her face: "Nope, next week! I'm surprised you know about it."

[Jedhead]

Hi everybody, first post. Just curious why a lot of people who already have an MBP seem to be looking forward to getting the new one? Problems with the current model?

[Gunga Din]

Ah it is Tuesday in Switzerland.. woooo.. "Redfive standing by..."

"Redsix standing by..."

[stetz5]

If it comes out today, how soon will we know and how?
apple website?

[Pukey]

"Redsix standing by..."

Porkins standing by...

[seantyas]

Hi everybody, first post. Just curious why a lot of people who already have an MBP seem to be looking forward to getting the new one? Problems with the current model?

no no nothing like that, I have tons of friends that have it and love it. I just don't want to buy something when I could have gotten something even slightly more for my hard earned money only the following week. Thats really it, Im SURE the MBP current model and do everythig i need and more. But if that update is going to give me an extra 6 months usage down the road then of course I want to wait. I really think thats why all of us are waiting.

[Jedhead]

no no nothing like that, I have tons of friends that have it and love it. I just don't want to buy something when I could have gotten something even slightly more for my hard earned money only the following week. Thats really it, Im SURE the MBP current model and do everythig i need and more. But if that update is going to give me an extra 6 months usage down the road then of course I want to wait. I really think thats why all of us are waiting.

Thanks for the reply. But I had noticed that a lot of people on this forum list an MBP as one of their current possessions--I was wondering why these people are looking for a new one?

[michaelc]

"Redsix standing by..."


Redeight standing....wait a minute,

for what? i thought the scheduled apple event was the 18TH?

[GooglEyes]

Hi everybody, first post. Just curious why a lot of people who already have an MBP seem to be looking forward to getting the new one? Problems with the current model?

I think most everyone here would agree that even the current model of MacBook Pros are freaking awesome. Sometimes, even if your current model is great, the urge to get the latest, sexiest, and most powerful version is just too tempting to pass up. :apple:!!!

[rols]

Porkins standing by...

hmm - MacBook Pro(s) still 24 hours availability on the Singapore store for all models. That doesn't bode well.

What happens when they do updates like this by the way, to the old stock which is clearly still sitting around? I'm quite sure the old models just disappear off the online store that day.

[seantyas]

Thanks for the reply. But I had noticed that a lot of people on this forum list an MBP as one of their current possessions--I was wondering why these people are looking for a new one?

The same reason we are all members of this forum really. QUite a few HARDCORE apple people here tht will always have the latest model.. Can't let that little 5H1T down the block have the better model now, can we?

[Jedhead]

The same reason we are all members of this forum really. QUite a few HARDCORE apple people here tht will always have the latest model.. Can't let that little 5H1T down the block have the better model now, can we?

Fair enough!

[chazzonline]

hmm - MacBook Pro(s) still 24 hours availability on the Singapore store for all models. That doesn't bode well.

What happens when they do updates like this by the way, to the old stock which is clearly still sitting around? I'm quite sure the old models just disappear off the online store that day.

Apple is a California based company and it releases all the products based on PST (Pacific Standard Time) so its obvious singapore store is still not updated.
Either way when apple updates its US online store, only then changes will be reflected in other worldwide stores. So keep ur fingers crossed and wait 4 the MBP.

[HackyMoto]

Alright, it's Tuesday already and I didn't sleep last night....

I've been thinking of buying a MBP but then I find this forum and this particular thread :eek: So where is it...

I'm gonna be the :apple: nOOb that buys it before you lot! :D

[jhsfosho]

Should be just a few more hours then. Here's to hoping!

[McGiord]

Will it receive and updated video card?
The Leopard update Today included some video compatibility stuff...
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[seantyas]

hmm - MacBook Pro(s) still 24 hours availability on the Singapore store for all models. That doesn't bode well.

What happens when they do updates like this by the way, to the old stock which is clearly still sitting around? I'm quite sure the old models just disappear off the online store that day.

As it is also with the USA store.. Not a good sign at all, but lets be hopeful

[catchdry]

As it is also with the USA store.. Not a good sign at all, but lets be hopeful

Same thing in the norwegian store, 24 hours shipping.

Just called applestore here in Norway for some questions about returningpolicy (2 weeks btw). He said that there where no updates now. And I laughed and said "but you wouldnt know that anyway before it would have been official". I thing he just wanted so bad to sell me an MBP just right away.

Still holding strong. Refusing tu buy a mac that is over 250 days old.

[AngryLeprechaun]

i know i can't help it! *crosses fingers again for 2nd week in a row...*

*crosses fingers for 2nd, 3rd, 4th week in a row.*

Steve don't fail me know.

[Concorde Rules]

Still holding strong. Refusing tu buy a mac that is over 250 days old.

Ummn.

What are you on?

Penryn brings slightly lower power use with slightly better performance clock for clock and slightly higher speeds (Up to 2.8Ghz now).

8700GT is the best your going to get in terms of GPU power.

If you need one, get one :/ I will laugh at you if you have to wait till May, June or July for an update!

I don't see what you lot are waiting for TBH. Multitouch track pads would be a nice feature but something I wouldn't use.

No new wireless options, SSD is still stupidly expensive and only small increases in performance.
:confused:

[gazfocus]

The reason people are waiting is because they simply don't want to buy a product that's so out of date, especially when a new model is so close to being released.

Even if the update doesn't come til May/June/July, I would still not buy the current model at the current price because it's not worth the money.

[GregorBehr]

Now that 10.5.2 is out and running, all eyes turn to Cupertino this morning to release updated MacBook Pros.
It's already after 3am Pacific and the web store is still up and running. I've yearned, I've debated and I've waited. Come on Apple, I've got 4 grand just sitting on a credit card just waiting to burn. Bring it on, I dare you!

:cool:

[fanfan59]

US apple store is closed !!!! :D

[Tosser]

US apple store is closed !!!! :D

What the!? It's very, very early in the US!?

[GregorBehr]

US apple store is closed !!!! :D


YAYAYAY:p

[fewture]

yeah.. bodes well

lets hope it is soon graced with pictures of the new MBP

[GregorBehr]

In in just 2 minutes from my last posting, the online store went down!

Ooooh, no way I'm going back to bed now!

[hajjareric]

Guys , apple.com store website is under update !!!

[Fuzzbear]

What the!? It's very, very early in the US!?

Not everywhere... for all we know the webmaster could be in NY its almost 6:30am there.

[HackyMoto]

What the!? It's very, very early in the US!?

Online store....
http://images.apple.com/r/store/backsoon/title_backsoon1.gif

[design-is]

could this be it? how can i be expected to get on with work when apple tease me so?!?!!!! :confused:

think i could sue for compensation for lack of earnings? lol

[hajjareric]

You guys are ordering it by credit card ? online order ?
is that better than just going to the apple store ?

do we have then a better guarantee to get one ? is it faster ?

[pik.]

store down....:rolleyes:

[michaelsviews]

Online store....
http://images.apple.com/r/store/backsoon/title_backsoon1.gif

Release the 3G iphone, Release the 3G iphone

OH and the new MBP.

Man the wifes going to be ticked at me ;)

[Tosser]

Not everywhere... for all we know the webmaster could be in NY its almost 6:30am there.

True.

Btw, danish and UK one still up.

[HackyMoto]

Release the 3G iphone, Release the 3G iphone

OH and the new MBP.

Man the wifes going to be ticked at me ;)

You boys are up early! Must be that Christmas feeling :D

[seantyas]

dont worry about the other stores being up... the usa one has been first by hours each of these last 3 weeks...

this is exciting.. but im really trying HARD NOT to get excited

[Tosser]

Just had a thought:

It's not the 3G iPhone, it's not new MBP's, it's not a tablet mac, it's neither of those things.
It's the introduction of the black bluetooth keyboard:


Look here - it says it's white (so far):

http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/dkstore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=B77BD2D&fnode=home/shop_mac/mac_accessories/mice_keyboards&nplm=MB167SM/A

[gelatin]

the new keyboards are gash

[Tosser]

the new keyboards are gash

I like them. Actually, I have consideres getting me the BT-one to "aid" my MBP. I'd prefer a black one, though.

[voyagerd]

Please... *whimpers* My feathers needs a MacBook Pro...

[Jibbles]

Am I the only one that's enoyed to bits about the fact that there are some people in the world that know everything about the new MBP? What it will be like, how much is is going to cost... When it will be released! Good thing the Apple Store is closed... Maybe we'll know soon too.

If the only update will a black keyboard I'm going to be pissed off, by the way. ;)

[chazzonline]

Apple stored is down 4 updating. Cud this mean our MBP is coming out . I am too excited guys, it has been a long long wait believe me.

Whatever the updated MBP be i wud be just glad to lay my hands on the new one. If the store was not closed 4 the macbook pro update then it wud b very disappointing.

But !
Release of MacOSX 10.5.2 leopard update (necessary 4 the MBP)
Closing of the Store on Tuesday

Cud only meet one thing - MACBOOK PRO is COMMING !!
oh boy its just hours away .. i jus hope when i wake up im in 4 a nice surprise !

[Tosser]

If the only update will a black keyboard I'm going to be pissed off, by the way. ;)

Prepare to unzip :p

[psychofreak]

If the only update will a black keyboard I'm going to be pissed off, by the way. ;)

Have you seen the MBA in person? IMO its beautiful.

[voyagerd]

I don't care what gets updated, I just want bragging rights to have a Penryn.

[Tosser]

Have you seen the MBA in person? IMO its beautiful.

Yet nowhere near the MBP the man wants. I doubt you can sway him into buying a crippled Macbook.

[netdog]

If the only update will a black keyboard I'm going to be pissed off, by the way. ;)

Today is your day, and it is going to be an Air-style trackpad and Penryn chips (faster, cooler and more power-efficient). No case redesign. Maybe a black keyboard though I kind of doubt it.

Anyway, you heard it here. Today is the day. Bank on it.

[lawcosts]

I'm waiting for clarification that my indecision will not yet be final.

What I believe I need (and I'm sure I'm far from alone) is a 13" MBP to replace my excellent but non-Intel 12" PowerBookG4 (I regretfully have to use some business apps which require Windows).

MBA isn't the answer (I need a small but true desktop replacement), MB doesn't seem sufficiently robust and the 15" MBP just isn't as easily portable.

From what I see now there just isn't a pricing bracket that would make this feasible.

So what do I buy? - obviously nothing just yet

[voyagerd]

It's already so late I'm going to miss my morning classes.. I just wonder if I should sleep for a few hours first or if they might update it before 5..

[voyagerd]

I'm waiting for clarification that my indecision will not yet be final.

What I believe I need (and I'm sure I'm far from alone) is a 13" MBP to replace my excellent but non-Intel 12" PowerBookG4 (I regretfully have to use some business apps which require Windows).

MBA isn't the answer (I need a small but true desktop replacement), MB doesn't seem sufficiently robust and the 15" MBP just isn't as easily portable.

From what I see now there just isn't a pricing bracket that would make this feasible.

So what do I buy? - obviously nothing just yet

http://mbp12.com/

[Jibbles]

Yet nowhere near the MBP the man wants. I doubt you can sway him into buying a crippled Macbook.

You understand me, Tosser. I agree the MacBook Air is hot, but come on... It's just not a MBP. It black keys on a MBP might look cool, I don't know. The real question is, however, will it be much faster or cheaper? Multi-touch trackpads are a nice feature, but I think I'll be using a mouse anyway. After all: I don't want RSI. If there will be a cheaper 17" version or a quicker 15" I'm going to be real exited.

Maybe they will release a whole new MBP: the MacBook Pro Pink. Nice and shiny, with a black keyboard. I bet you never thought about that, did you! :o;)

[michaelsviews]

I don't care what gets updated, I just want bragging rights to have a Penryn.

Down to 8:30 EST according to

http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/apple-store-down-again-that-time-of-the-month/

OH well , wonder if Fedex will be at my local Apple store with a hefty delivery today

[Tosser]

You understand me, Tosser. I agree the MacBook Air is hot, but come on... It's just not a MBP. It black keys on a MBP might look cool, I don't know. The real question is, however, will it be much faster or cheaper? Multi-touch trackpads are a nice feature, but I think I'll be using a mouse anyway. After all: I don't want RSI. If there will be a cheaper 17" version or a quicker 15" I'm going to be real exited.

Maybe they will release a whole new MBP: the MacBook Pro Pink. Nice and shiny, with a black keyboard. I bet you never thought about that, did you! :o;)

Excellent! A pink MBP!! Man, that would make me vomit.

They might make it all black?

Anyway, remember the black keys on the TiBook? Looked fine to me. Besides, it's easier to read white letters on black than the opposite. If you don't believe me, hold down ctrl+alt/option+cmd and press "8".

[michaelsviews]

http://mbp12.com/

Hey is this someones rendition with Photoshop or a possibility ?

Thats Slick

[voyagerd]

Hey is this someones rendition with Photoshop or a possibility ?

Thats Slick

It's a wish.

[katejones]

Im praying for anadised pink to match my old ipod mini /drool

[Tosser]

Im praying for anadised pink to match my old ipod mini /drool

I fear that a pink MBP might have an even smaller audience than the MBA. Sorry, Kate.

Although, there's always www.colorwarepc.com

[aswitcher]

If a 12" appears I am pretty sure I will be spending. Revamped 15" if no 12" and depending on if it gets the full overhaul, then its a buy instead. I guess the first Airs are now with people on getting to them soon and Apple needs to push its stock price back up, so its a good time for new Macs.

[t56]

can someone tell me the update, what is it? I can't access the site.

Thanks

[voyagerd]

can someone tell me the update, what is it? I can't access the site.

Thanks

Neither can we.

[Tosser]

can someone tell me the update, what is it? I can't access the site.

Thanks

It's a burgundy MacBook Pro. With glossy screen.

[jakeOSX]

not to feed the rumor machine (or worse yet, get anyones' hopes up)

but the apple online store is down...

[Stella]

IMO Its down! WHOOHOOO - here come the MBP. I'm ready to be disappointed like last week.

( P.s., wheren't the Time Capsules already listed in the Apple Store? If so, it can't be that ).

[Tosser]

IMO Its down! WHOOHOOO - here come the MBP. I'm ready to be disappointed like last week.

( P.s., wheren't the Time Capsules already listed in the Apple Store? If so, it can't be that ).

Here they come
Here come the bastards
I heard it from a confident -
Who heard it form a confidant
They're definately on their way
There's one with this idea
Something about a hammer head shark
Nosehairs and flatus
Best keep your distance because
Here they come here come the bastards
Bury your head deep in the sand
Anonyminity is a virtue in this day and age
Amazing hand dexterity
Flagrant misuse of security
Better run, run, run, run, run
Run Run Run Run, here they come


– Primus/Claypool

[michaelsviews]

It's a burgundy MacBook Pro. With glossy screen.

Nope your wrong its ORANGE, and Camouflaged

[Tosser]

Nope your wrong its ORANGE, and Camouflaged

Oops, my bad, my screen was inverted!

I see it now. Have you noticed in the tech specs it says it comes with a 45 watts charger?

[groovebuster]

I fear that a pink MBP might have an even smaller audience than the MBA. Sorry, Kate.

Although, there's always www.colorwarepc.com

Or these guys: http://www.alumamax.com/

Check again when their store is back online (coincidence?)... it is pretty cool!

groovebuster

[soccerjoe5]

the apple online store says "we'll be back soon. we are busy updating the store for you" :) hope they're updating it with the new MBP!!!

[Tosser]

Or these guys: http://www.alumamax.com/

Check again when their store is back online (coincidence?)... it is pretty cool!

groovebuster

Actually, I think you're dead on – they're even using the same picture:

[katejones]

I fear that a pink MBP might have an even smaller audience than the MBA. Sorry, Kate.

Although, there's always www.colorwarepc.com

It's a winner!

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/intylicious/pinkbok.jpg

[Tosser]

It's a winner!


haha, thought you'd might like that :-)

Edit:

If you guys and gals go here:

http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/dkstore.woa/wa/RSLID?nnmm=browse&mco=7B72367E&node=home/shop_mac/family/macbook_pro

It looks like the 17 incher will be updated, doesn't it? It has a five day lead time on a bog standard one.

[groovebuster]

Actually, I think you're dead on – they're even using the same picture:

Just to show you what these guys are doing... http://www.alumamax.com/product.html

Example:

http://www.alumamax.com/images/blackmac.jpg

... until their site is up again. :-)

groovebuster

[soccerjoe5]

wow that colorware thing sure is neat! i'd want a silver/aluminum mighty mouse to match the MBP :)

[Tosser]

Just to show you what these guys are doing... http://www.alumamax.com/product.html

Example:


... until their site is up again. :-)

groovebuster

That one looks nice – powder coating?

[JDR]

Or these guys: http://www.alumamax.com/

Check again when their store is back online (coincidence?)... it is pretty cool!

groovebuster

Is it a coincidence that they have the exact same post-it note image and font ?

[groovebuster]

Is it a coincidence that they have the exact same post-it note image and font ?

AND updating their store at the same time...

[TUD]

IMO Its down! WHOOHOOO - here come the MBP. I'm ready to be disappointed like last week.

( P.s., wheren't the Time Capsules already listed in the Apple Store? If so, it can't be that ).

They were already listed, but the ship date stated February. No specific date.

[mac821]

OK, mac store is down.
Please, please new macbook pro!!!!

[dmb3886]

haha everyone is tripping balls

[voyagerd]

haha everyone is tripping balls

I'm freaking out here man! I need a computer! I'm a freaking Computer Engineering major!

[Tosser]

I'm freaking out here man! I need a computer! I'm a freaking Computer Engineering major!

Or perhaps you're a major computer freak?

Seriously, though, this is all good fun. Calm down, you don't "need" anything of the sort, you have a nice desktop, it seems. No need to go over the top. If you really were _needing_ it, you would propably have another laptop right now.

[voyagerd]

Or perhaps you're a major computer freak?

Seriously, though, this is all good fun. Calm down, you don't "need" anything of the sort, you have a nice desktop, it seems. No need to go over the top. If you really were _needing_ it, you would propably have another laptop right now.

I do really need it, I have to go to a computer lab to use any of the engineering programs for lab or homework since they are Windows only and Virtual PC is just too slow. I also can't work at my lab partner's place until I get a laptop.

[hossegor]

i need a macbook pro ...arrggggg

2 remixes are waiting to be done....this suxxxxxxx :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[groovebuster]

That one looks nice – powder coating?

Nope... it is anodized. They offer seven different colors.

[c0rn1]

http://store.apple.com/
is down for more than two hours now! Let's see what they'll bring...

[Tosser]

I do really need it, I have to go to a computer lab to use any of the engineering programs for lab or homework since they are Windows only and Virtual PC is just too slow. I also can't work at my lab partner's place until I get a laptop.

Okay, then. I can see that. But I still don't see why you're _that_ giddy. You could buy portable Macs since before you began. Also, you could have bought a cheap ass windows-pc, if you really, really needed it (as in "cannot do my work, unless I have a laptop").

[JaySoul]

Hellllllooooo hello MacBook, how ya doin?
If you're Penryn, can I come too?
If I can, I wanna be your man
And have your babies, get updated
SSD, it's all gravy
LED, drive me crazy
Come on Stevie, need to please me
MacBook Pro that looks WOAH!!

[RHD]

Humpf. UK store is business as usual.

[Tosser]

Nope... it is anodized. They offer seven different colors.

Nice. I prefer that matte look over the shiny/glossy Colorware.