What do you hate about Hillary?

[stevento]

republicans please answer
i have a suspicion that women taking charge in politics makes people uncomfortable

[sushi]

It might be easier to ask what one likes about Hillary. ;)

[Hawkeye411]

She's Bill's wife.

[iSaint]

Arrogant.

Never had a real job.

Socialist.

No real beliefs (maybe to see herself in power, socialist), just waffles for the crowd.

[obeygiant]

She's insincere and arrogant.

Saw this (http://www.doubleviking.com/videos/tag/prank/page0.html/7875.html) on Digg today. A street sign making jokes. One of them was "Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife is running for president." lulz

[basesloaded190]

every time she talks it sounds at though she is yelling at you, in a almost scolding manor. she needs to learn to give a speech with out it sounding like she is mad and yelling at her audience

[obeygiant]

Hillary's Looming Electability Crisis

There are moments in time when you see a slow-motion disaster unfolding before you, and you can only yell out and hope those around you notice in time. Now is such a moment for Democrats, and "in time" means before the Super Duper primaries this Tuesday across the nation. Hillary Clinton may be a good U.S. Senator, and has deep symbolic importance as our first viable female presidential candidate, but three factors represent crippling structural flaws for the Democratic ticket this November if she becomes our candidate.

First is the nightmare we saw once before. Ralph Nader has just declared his decision to form an exploratory committee for 2008, and will certainly wage another presidential campaign hammering the Democrats. Under ordinary circumstances, Nader's inevitable next candidacy would be unimportant given his meteoric fall from electoral relevance. Thanks to voter resentment over his impact in 2000, and to efforts including our "Ralph Don't Run" campaign by anti-Bush progressives opposing Nader's candidacy, his vote total fell from an election-tilting 3% in 2000 to 0.38% in 2004. As we said in 2004, Nader's votes always come at the expense of the Democratic candidate. While Nader was not a factor in 2004, Hillary's weakness among progressives -- millions will never forgive her vote authorizing the Iraq war -- means that Nader will crawl back up into the low single-digits. We saw in 2000 the carnage "low single-digits" can cause.

Second, after his victory in Florida and endorsement by Giuliani, John McCain is the presumptive GOP nominee. McCain's greatest appeal will be to independent voters, a large vital block of the electorate that is Hillary's great weakness. Hillary is a highly polarizing candidate, which damages her among independents. As Time magazine's most recent polling indicates, she has the deadly combination of very high negatives (41% unfavorable) plus a deeply fixed voter impression (91% say they know enough about her to form an opinion). The latter figure means those numbers are not going to change substantially, and McCain will almost surely win Independents. This should be a deafening alarm bell for Democrats.

Finally, Hillary has an ironic power shared by no other candidate: from the wreckage of a broken, dysfunctional Republican party with deep rifts among its factions, she would create sudden GOP unity. If Clinton is our candidate, the Republican base will come out in numbers that have nothing to do with John McCain and everything to do with Hillary and Bill Clinton. As GOP pundits are now openly admitting, they want Hillary this November. They fear Obama.

Here, then, is the Clinton disaster scenario. Even in a year when Democrats are in great position to win in November, if Hillary unifies the Republicans, loses independents, and loses the progressive left, her chances of winning the general election are slim indeed.

Let look at the alternative. Barack Obama inspires Americans across the political spectrum, with his greatest strengths supplanting Hillary's greatest weaknesses. He unites independents, the young, minorities, and progressives alike. He will not unify the GOP, and indeed will take Republican votes. That same Time magazine poll shows that among those who have an opinion, he has astounding 70% positives. Yet 51% of voters don't yet know him enough to even have formed an opinion. With his power of ideas and remarkable personal charisma yet to be fully seen, his upside is enormous.

In 2004, we had our regrets about having to fight the often admirable Ralph Nader to most effectively oppose the reelection of George Bush. We beseech Democratic primary voters this Tuesday to make such an effort unnecessary in 2008, as Barack Obama unites progressives, independents and Democrats, and discourages rather than unifies Republicans. If we want to win in November, we must choose the transcendent appeal of Barack Obama, as Americans reject tired partisan divides of the past and join together in a new politics of integrity, hope, and a profound unity for the American people.
Huffington (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-pearce/hillarys-looming-electab_b_84549.html)

I don't read the Huffington Post but I saw this on Digg.

Obama brings people together, Hillary divides.

[mrkramer]

The things I don't like about her are, She seems to me to be more power-hungry than most politicians, I don't beleive much of what she says, and the other reason why I won't vote for her is that I don't want 2 families controlling the White house from 1989 to 2012 or 2016.

[Desertrat]

Considering that she's pretty much been stage-front for sixteen years, it's not hard to come to some conclusions about her.

She comes across as rather arrogant as to the validity of her judgements. She seems hungry for political power for its own sake, for her own personal satisfaction and use.

She's too often reported to be arrogant toward the "little people" around her in governmental jobs. That's despicable behavior--and among other things indicates how she looks at outsiders from the public at large.

She appears ignorant of Economics 101, or else just doesn't care.

Her apparent political opinions vary with polls. She doesn't appear to have any consistent political philosophy, other than more government is a good thing; more governmental power over the citizenry is a good thing.

I don't hate her, but I have serious concern for the good of the nation should she become President.

'Rat

[Hello.there]

Socialist.

:eek:

:D

Sorry.

It's just a constant source of amusement to me how US right wingers define the term 'Socialist'. The noise you hear is Karl Marx spinning in his grave. If Hillary's a Socialist I'm a native of Jupiter.

[obeygiant]

:eek:

:D

Sorry.

It's just a constant source of amusement to me how US right wingers define the term 'Socialist'. The noise you hear is Karl Marx spinning in his grave. If Hillary's a Socialist I'm a native of Jupiter.

Socialism refers to a broad array of ideologies and political movements with the goal of a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community.[1]. This control may be either direct—exercised through popular collectives such as workers' councils—or indirect—exercised on behalf of the people by the state. As an economic system, socialism is often characterized by state, worker, or community ownership of the means of production, goals which have been attributed to, and claimed by, a number of political parties and governments throughout history.
The modern socialist movement largely originated in the late-19th century working class movement. In this period, the term 'socialism' was first used in connection with European social critics who criticized capitalism and private property. For Karl Marx, who helped establish and define the modern socialist movement, socialism would be the socioeconomic system that arises after the proletarian revolution, in which the means of production are owned collectively. This society would then progress into communism.

With that in mind read these (http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/marxist.asp) quotes from Hillary. And that's just what she says in public.

I want to take those profits away and use them.. blah blah blah (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1PfE9K8j0g)

So that why some people call her a socialist. Is there some basic premise that everyone is missing?

[miloblithe]

She appears ignorant of Economics 101, or else just doesn't care.

How so?

[zap2]

i have a suspicion that women taking charge in politics makes people uncomfortable

Yea, my brother would agree with you.


But honestly, she is a very arrogant person. She rubs me the wrong way, when she explains things, and it comes off very badly. And her policies don't do enough. She also say "I don't want to be judge based off my husband, for good or bad" Then goes "But Bill raised the economy, cut the deficit and more! Vote for me, because I'm like him" Pick one, please!

Obama is the opposite....he can make almost anything sounds great! And his stance on the issues are great!


Also she talks about how he is going to bring about change, and then goes "Hey, I've been in Washington for 35 years!" Really change has to come from outside!

[zap2]

With that in mind read these (http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/marxist.asp) quotes from Hillary. And that's just what she says in public.

I want to take those profits away and use them.. blah blah blah (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1PfE9K8j0g)

So that why some people call her a socialist. Is there some basic premise that everyone is missing?

Using that idea, then anyone who supports taxes to pay for public anything is a socialist...get real!

[stevento]

She appears ignorant of Economics 101, or else just doesn't care.
...

I don't hate her, but I have serious concern for the good of the nation should she become President.

'Rat

yeah she might mess around and balance the budget or something.

as for arrogance i see what you are talking about but if that same level or arrogance came from a man i bet it'd be less of a big deal. if a man acted like that they'd call him a strong leader

hillary was not a laura bush type first lady. she didn't just pose for pictures and smile and wave to the crowds and that probably makes people uncomfortable because it goes against what they think of women
i think her policies are better than obamas (excluding foriegn policy, i like his more)
and what makes you think obama will be capable of uniting the country and changing washington?
we've heard that in every election for 4 decades and washington is the way washington is.
likely because politicians are the way they are.

[obeygiant]

Using that idea, then anyone who supports taxes to pay for public anything is a socialist...get real!

I think this is much larger than just taxation. This is wealth redistribution and government control of major industries. "taking profits" is just a little different than taxing don't you think?

[Ugg]

I think this is much larger than just taxation. This is wealth redistribution and government control of major industries. "taking profits" is just a little different than taxing don't you think?

So what do you call not taxing the wealthy and major industrial control of government?

[motulist]

She's a two faced sycophant. She will say two totally opposite things depending on the audience she's talking to and what she thinks they want to hear. She's just a poll response prostitute, selling out her words to whatever demographic she's talking to at the moment. Most politicians do this to varying degrees, but she takes it to a new low.

She needs to stop double talking. Make a clear statement about your position on an issue, then stick with it. Don't use wishy washy words that you can later say meant two different things, depending on the audience you're explaining to about what your speech meant.

If the democrats put Hillary as their candidate, then they're gonna lose. (assuming that the election isn't rigged)

You wanna know why I'm so sure about that? Because I REALLY don't want another republican in the white house this time, and especially not most of the current republican front runners, but even I wouldn't be willing to vote for Hillary. I'm usually a rather party-agnostic voter, but I'll vote for an unlikely to win 3rd party candidate and by proxy allow a person like McCain to be president before I'll vote for Hillary.

Hillary - the candidate for the status quo. Only worse.

[obeygiant]

So what do you call not taxing the wealthy and major industrial control of government?

I don't know. There is no such thing as no taxes. As far as I know the wealthy are taxed just people debate on how much. In terms of industrial control of government, that exists no matter who is in office.

However this is departure from the original discussion of what you don't like about Hillary. Some people think she's a socialist and they view that as a bad thing.

[hulugu]

I think this is much larger than just taxation. This is wealth redistribution and government control of major industries. "taking profits" is just a little different than taxing don't you think?

I see your point, but I don't think Clinton wants to "take profits" but rather wants to remove the tax breaks and subsidies that the oil companies have been enjoying. And this is a reasonable point. Corporate tax breaks should happen only to further national priorities, but once a sector is doing well enough to announce record profits, it's time for that incentive to end. Ultimately, this would "take profits," but in a reasonable fashion that has nothing to do with socialism.

People are far too ready to call Clinton a socialist, so they'll look for any excuse to call her one.

[Prof.]

I don't hate anything about Hillary. Believe it or not, we need her to be president; and the way it's going, she will be president.

Clinton/Obama:D

[motulist]

we need her to be president

We need her to be president instead of the other democratic contenders because...?

[Prof.]

We need her to be president instead of the other democratic contenders because...?
I don't want to get into it cause it's 1am here in chicago but... we need her cause she is married to Bill. Bill and Hillary will fix the economy, get the US involved with the environment and yada yada yada. *sigh*

This will sound strange but you gotta trust me on this, we need Hillary and Bill in the White House again.

don't bash me

[Krafty]

If she becomes president, a whole bunch of people including me, are committing suicide.

[Prof.]

If she becomes president, a whole bunch of people including me, are committing suicide.
Have fun doing it:p

[eric55lv]

Does she use a Mac or PC?

[MACDRIVE]

She rubs me the wrong way . . .

What if she used some coco butter lotion? :p

[yg17]

If she becomes president, a whole bunch of people including me, are committing suicide.

Bye!

Seriously, you think she's going to be worse than Dubya? Obama is my first choice, but I'll still vote for her if she wins the nomination. I don't think she's as bad as people make her out to be and she's definitely better than all of the republicans running.

What if she used some coco butter lotion? :p

You'd think after Bill had the affair, she would've learned how to rub people the right way :D

[Prof.]

Bye!You'd think after Bill had the affair, she would've learned how to rub people the right way :D
You got a dirty mind:p

GLAVIN!!!

[Thomas Veil]

Socialism?

Reagan and both Bushes have engineered the greatest government-sponsored wealth redistribution -- from the poor and middle class to the rich and megarich -- in history. So if you wanna talk about Socialism.......

If she becomes president, a whole bunch of people including me, are committing suicide.When Bush was installed in the White House, a whole lot of us liberals considered leaving the country. But if conservatives are going to commit suicide over Hillary, then I like your idea better! ;)

[furcalchick]

hilary is a big flip flopper who just changes opinion to get the popular vote. little core beliefs usually means poor leadership. she also seems to have the arrogant smug 'i'm better than you' look most of the time. and she's been in washington too long, which usually means she has mastered the art of corruption. do you think it's somewhat of a fluke that 4 of our last 5 presidents were governors rather than congress-people (the traditional path to president) since nixon? i would love to have a woman president one day, but hilary doesn't fit the bill.

[toaster_oven]

Arrogant.

Never had a real job.

Socialist.

No real beliefs (maybe to see herself in power, socialist), just waffles for the crowd.

she's only socialist on paper... Nixon was a bigger socialist than she is.

[obeygiant]

but hilary doesn't fit the bill.

Yuk yuk! :)

[it5five]

Socialist.



That is one of the most absurd things I have seen on these forums. She is anything but a socialist. If anything, she is quite moderate or slight-right.

Here's why I, someone who considers himself to be very liberal and a Democratic Socialist, do not want Hillary to receive the Democratic nomination:

-Of all campaign donations received from the for-profit healthcare industry, her campaign has received the most. And that includes Republican candidates too.

-She was on the board of directors for Wal-Mart for years, and did absolutely nothing about the union busting and anti-union tactics of Wal-Mart. She was in a position to at least raise a fit about it, but didn't do a thing.

-Her healthcare plan. This ties into my first complaint, and my first complaint explains why her healthcare solution is awful. Yes, every citizen will have (or be forced to purchase) healthcare coverage...but it's provided by for-profit healthcare companies. This does absolutely nothing to solve what I think is a larger problem, which is these insurance providers refusing to cover certain necessary surgeries or refusing to hold up their side of the contract. Yes, everyone will be covered, but I can't imagine cancer patients or other extremely ill people being able to get much use out of that insurance plan they are being forced to purchase.

-I don't like her extreme pro-Israel position she holds in regards to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

-She voted in support of that absurd border fence.

-Considers the Iranian army a terrorist organization.

-Voted for the Iraq War, and still refuses to admit she made a mistake.

-Favors the continuation of the embargo against Cuba.

-Introduced the Flag Protection Act of 2005, which would make flag burning illegal and supports a punishment of a year in jail and a $100,000 fine.

-Supports the Death Penalty.

-Voted for and still supports No Child Left Behind.

-Opposes same-sex marriage.

Now, all of this said, if it came down to Hillary vs. McCain, I would hold my nose and shamefully vote for Hillary. As awful as she is, McCain is thousands of times worse.

[Mike Teezie]

I don't hate anything about her.

I strongly disagree with her healthcare plans, and disagree even more with her views on Iran.

[solvs]

Socialist.
As you can see, most of it is irrational. While I agree that she rubs people the wrong way, leans whichever way the polls do, and generally seems power hungry, you could say that about most of them. But it's easier to hate her for whatever reason. She's too much of something, or not enough of that same thing. Liberals hate her because she isn't liberal enough, conservatives hate her because they think she's too liberal. She can't win with people, but she very well could win the nom simply by default.

As for the valid reasons not to like her, it5five summed up the way I feel about her pretty well.

[doctor pangloss]

Her disingenuous cackling grates my sensibilities.
And I'm sure she was the ramrod being Blll's very first act as President.;)
An openly gay military indeed.:rolleyes:

[basesloaded190]

Does she use a Mac or PC?

i don't think we can just let that go by so fast...sorry it made me laugh when all i see is a lot of political talk and then this...lol

Edit: it better be a mac ;)

[jaydub]

Her disingenuous cackling grates my sensibilities.
I was sure it wasn't only me, my suspicions are confirmed!!

She's obnoxious. I watched the LA debates and I couldn't stop staring at her smirking and cackling every time Obama responded to a question. There were times he wasn't even addressing her, but she always had a nonverbal reaction.

[nbs2]

Wow - a thread full of replies that fly in the face of the OP's original assertion. The funny thing is that there are several positions that I agree with her on, but I don't know if I really agree with her. Her beliefs really aren't clearly defined enough for me.

Regarding the intent of the OP, I do take issue with her as a woman. I look at women like Eleanor Roosevelt and Elizabeth Dole and see women who were and are strong leaders, who have solid ideas and beliefs, are sincere in their beliefs, and are proud to be women. But, they know that women are different than men and govern differently. The perspective that Eleanor or Elizabeth would have brought to the the White House could have been refreshing. With Clinton, it's more of the same. So, if her policies and positions are not better than those of the other candidates, she offers nothing.

[forafireescape]

republicans please answer
i have a suspicion that women taking charge in politics makes people uncomfortable

Since when is being sexist a good reason to keep people out of office?

What if having a man in charge makes me uncomfortable? Isn't stopping anyone.

Women are just as capable as men at being leaders. Get with the times.

[forafireescape]

-Voted for and still supports No Child Left Behind.


Hillary has gone on record several times saying she wants to get rid of No Child Left Behind.

[abijnk]

My only sister was diagnosed with type I diabetes 3 weeks before her 4th birthday. Since my Dad is also a juvenile diabetic we as a family became active with the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation. One year the JDRF picked 4 kids from each state in the US and 2 from DC to go lobby for federal funds for more research (it is known as the Children's Congress for the Promise to Remember Me campaign), my sister was chosen to represent New Jersey. The kids and their families met with senators and congressmen and women over the course of a few days and did a big demonstration of the capital steps for the cause.

Now, in the meetings with all these people everyone was kind and respected the fact that these were children trying to better their own lives, and even if they didn't think it was the best cause, they took the time out to listen and talk with the kids. When it came our time to meet with Senator Clinton we waited for 45 minutes only to have her walk in and treat us like scum. She actually said, out loud and in earshot, that she didn't know why "her people" scheduled this series of meetings for her since she wasn't about to vote for the bill in question.

My parents and me and my sister were absolutely disgusted. We met with 25 different people over the course of a week, she was the only one too good to be respectful. Whether or not she was going to vote for the bill was irrelevant, it is/was her job to sit down and hear us out.

I have a feeling that the arrogance and attitude showed to us that day wasn't an isolated incident. I can't even begin to imagine myself voting for her, ever, for anything.

/rant

[solvs]

Wow - a thread full of replies that fly in the face of the OP's original assertion.
Maybe, but with a few exceptions, it does seem to be more about some sort of quality about her rather than some definable reason. Don't like her votes, or her policies, or she was rude to you, or even that she stayed with her cheating husband. That I get. Not liking her because she's not likable? Because she puts you off? Because she cackles? Is that a valid enough reason. And yet, somehow I understand completely what you're talking about when you say it. :o But at least some of us have valid reasons to back up the underlying issue of our displeasure with her.

And for the record, I have no problem with women in power. I just hold them to the same scrutiny I would anyone else. If Churchill and Thatcher switched genders, I'd feel the same. I'd just like a better female is all if that's what we're getting.

[stevento]

I don't hate anything about Hillary. Believe it or not, we need her to be president; and the way it's going, she will be president.

Clinton/Obama:D

i concur greatly. hillary has been around the block
obama talks about change but i dont know if he's been there long enough to change it
everyone can see washington is broken and its nothing new, but who was the expirience to change it?

[motulist]

i concur greatly. hillary has been around the block
obama talks about change but i dont know if he's been there long enough to change it
everyone can see washington is broken and its nothing new, but who was the expirience to change it?

You statement contradicts itself.

You said:
"Washington is corrupt. So the only person who can change the corrupt system is a person who's part of the corruption."

Huh?

She has experience alright, experience kowtowing to the corporations that control our country.

[it5five]

Hillary has gone on record several times saying she wants to get rid of No Child Left Behind.

Her Senate website says different, my friend:

No Child Left Behind

Throughout my career, I have fought to raise education standards in our nation's schools. I believe that every child should be taught by a qualified teacher and that schools should be accountable to the parents of the children they serve. That is why I supported the No Child Left Behind Act in 2001 and continue to believe in the principles behind the landmark law. When the No Child Left Behind Act (NCLBA) was enacted, I viewed it as a historic promise between the federal government and educators -- schools would be held to higher standards than ever before and the government would make a record investment in those schools to ensure that they would be able to meet the new expectations confronting them.

http://clinton.senate.gov/issues/education/index.cfm?topic=elementary

[emmawu]

I like both Hillary and Barack. And, by the way, she and Bill are big Mac users.

[kainjow]

Her disingenuous cackling grates my sensibilities.

This video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=nxZUFzGWzkY) is going to give me nightmares...


Experience is only good when that experience has brought about good things in the person, and I sure don't see many good things brought about from Hillary.

I used to tell myself that if it came down to McCain vs Clinton I'd vote Clinton, but I'm starting to think I would vote third party or sit it out. I wouldn't be able to face myself after voting for her. Probably would seek counseling :p

I think after the elections if Obama doesn't win I'm going to stop following politics or else I'll probably lose my mind ;)

[SMM]

I doubt if we have ever had a stronger, more courageous person running for President. 90% of the garbage used to slime her is just that.

There are many people I know and respect, including people here, who I respect, but do not know, who have a visceral hatred of her. I think that is really a shame. Many posts read similar to gays, same sex marriages, etc. Strong negative opinions based on a couple decades of right-wing sliming.

BTW - I have not decided between either demo candidate.

[it5five]

Strong negative opinions based on a couple decades of right-wing sliming.



I don't think it's quite that easy. In fact, in my post where I listed the reasons I dislike her, almost all of those reasons were for very right-wing positions she held in regard to each issue.

I think that if a lot of conservatives actually knew her positions on a lot of issues, they'd like her a lot more and quit with the baseless mudslinging.

But you are right; a lot of people dislike Hillary for all the wrong reasons.

[nbs2]

Maybe, but with a few exceptions, it does seem to be more about some sort of quality about her rather than some definable reason. Don't like her votes, or her policies, or she was rude to you, or even that she stayed with her cheating husband. That I get. Not liking her because she's not likable? Because she puts you off? Because she cackles? Is that a valid enough reason. And yet, somehow I understand completely what you're talking about when you say it. :o But at least some of us have valid reasons to back up the underlying issue of our displeasure with her.

Being unlikable, put off, or cackling are all, in my view reasonable. Ever since 1960, personality, charisma and style have all played roles in the perception of candidates.

[elcid]

The fact that she is a woman doesn't really bother me.

She's arrogant and I get a feeling that she believes Obama is just making her ascension to the nomination difficult.

Obama has the powers to pull the democrats together and bring the independents on board.

Clinton is a career politician. She believes it will be handed to her, but I doubt that she can really rally independants. You either lover her or hate her. Obama you can not like, but you give him credit anyways.

[emw]

she and Bill are big Mac users.And it looks like Bill has used quite a few Big Macs since leaving office. ;)

As for Hillary, it's interesting. I have much in common with many of her viewpoints, and on a great majority of issues it appears that there isn't significant separation between her and Barrack.

But on Tuesday I was again watching the candidates give speeches and it struck me that both Hillary and John McCain appeared to be reading their teleprompters too much. McCain seemed to have scripted his every word, even his "ad libbing" seemed to be pre-libbed. And Hillary's attempts to appear gracious or humorous or even "down-home" just fell flat. It's just not her.

Obama, on the other hand, seems to have a genuine fire. His personality invites people to join him - to believe in him. To share his vision. Whether or not you agree with what he believes in, his ability to draw you in and force you to listen is quite powerful, and I can see why people are flocking to him.

So what do I hate about Hillary? I just don't get a good sense that she really gives a damn about us, and will say whatever it takes to make it appear she does. Perhaps Obama is like that as well. But he hides it better. ;)

[elcid]

I went back and read page two and it bothers me how many people that think she has all this experience.


IMO a Governor has more expierence then a Senator. In the Senator you are one of a hundred and you just have to vote on a bill, basically however your leader/whip wants you too.

No one, and I bet past presidents would say the same, no one knows what they are going to do, how they are going to perform, once they are in office. I drown out people when they say "I am going to repeal No Child Left Behind" or other policy changes.

You are not a dictator and you are subject to the 535 people that are also going to tell you what you are going to do and not do. You are subject to hijackers and terrorists, forrest fires and hurricanes.

No one knows how to be president until they are running for their second term.

[jessica.]

There are many things to dislike about her but to me she's not all that bright. I love hearing her speak about what she intends to do with all the subprime lenders. There are no more subprime lenders!!! Dumbass!

[SilentPanda]

I dislike that she says for Louisiana that Obama won because of high African American turn out. Now I don't have stats in front of me but I'm going to guess that the female population of Louisiana (or any state for that matter) is larger than the African American population of that state. It's just a guess... but isn't it the same logic?

[PlaceofDis]

I dislike that she says for Louisiana that Obama won because of high African American turn out. Now I don't have stats in front of me but I'm going to guess that the female population of Louisiana (or any state for that matter) is larger than the African American population of that state. It's just a guess... but isn't it the same logic?

i've missed seeing that 'tar. always brings a smile:

ontopic:

yes she'll say whatever she can to discredit and promote herself. she seems very self serving. and it shows.

[TEG]

republicans please answer
i have a suspicion that women taking charge in politics makes people uncomfortable

I have two problems with Hillary...

1) During the last Clinton Administration, the US military was nearly destroyed by beaurucrats and Bill rarely listened to military commanders regarding action.

2) Compulsary Socialized Medicine *shudder*.

Bonus: The Clinton machine uses intimidation and assult to prevent those who really know what is going on from speaking out against them.

I'm unsure as to whom I would vote for.

I like McCain's Policies, but he is very scary (in terms of age). I like Huckabee because he is straight forward (and has experience, something no other candidate has), but some of his comments are too right-wing (although I know he could never do any of those things, thank God for checks-and-balances). I like Obama as a man, but I'm unsure as to how effective he could be.

The dream tickets would be:
Obama-Edwards
or
McCain-Huckabee

TEG