I love Rush Limbaugh

[v-ault]

Indeed. Personally I love Rush. He's not some whacko fringe extremist... dude talks about football all the time, he's a rather mainstream conservative, he's funny and sarcastic and really enjoys needling democrats. Nothing wrong or controversial about that really.

The people who really hate Limbaugh are liberals. Even independents and moderates don't hate the guy... they might ignore him or discount him, but they tend not to actually hate him.

And, he was right - McNabb was over-rated and the media was hyping him up because they wanted an elite black quarterback. Probably shouldn't have "gone there" at the time, but he was right.

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BTW, he's endorsing Romney :cool::cool::cool:

[motulist]

You're kidding yourself if you think any moderates listen to him as a sound political voice. His audience is only the stubbornly far right (or politically uninformed).

[v-ault]

You're kidding yourself if you think any moderates listen to him as a sound political voice. His audience is only the stubbornly far right (or politically uninformed).


The people who really hate Limbaugh are liberals. Even independents and moderates don't hate the guy... they might ignore him or discount him, but they tend not to actually hate him.

This seems to be a nasty habit of everyone here.

[miloblithe]

So to be open minded we have to listen to Rush Limbaugh? Do you see all Michael Moore's movies? I'd consider them rough parallels: populists who don't let facts get in the way of what they consider to be a good story.

[Roger1]

I used to work evenings, so I watched Rush right before going to work. The guy is hilarious.

[leekohler]

So to be open minded we have to listen to Rush Limbaugh? Do you see all Michael Moore's movies? I'd consider them rough parallels: populists who don't let facts get in the way of what they consider to be a good story.

Exactly. Limbaugh's no more a reliable source of info than Moore. They're entertainers, not journalists.

[miloblithe]

Exactly. Limbaugh's no more a reliable source of info than Moore. They're entertainers, not journalists.

zigactly.

On the other hand, because I am open minded, I have listened to and watched Rush Limbaugh. He sounds more fact-based than Moore, but that's delivery. Point by point, I don't think he is. Neither is going to let a pesky bit of truth get in the way of a point they want to make.

I also read books like this:

http://www.amazon.com/War-over-Iraq-Saddams-Americas/dp/B0000AA9KH/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1202226142&sr=1-1

[SMM]

Indeed. Personally I love Rush. He's not some whacko fringe extremist... dude talks about football all the time, he's a rather mainstream conservative, he's funny and sarcastic and really enjoys needling democrats. Nothing wrong or controversial about that really.

The people who really hate Limbaugh are liberals. Even independents and moderates don't hate the guy... they might ignore him or discount him, but they tend not to actually hate him.

And, he was right - McNabb was over-rated and the media was hyping him up because they wanted an elite black quarterback. Probably shouldn't have "gone there" at the time, but he was right.

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BTW, he's endorsing Romney :cool::cool::cool:

The man is a certified idiot and yes I am a liberal.

[PlaceofDis]

lets give each other more labels.

[Eric Piercey]

I used to listen to conservative radio all day every day as my coworker was a hard core old school republican - which still doesn't really explain why he listened to Rush and Ann Coultier et al. since they're just agitators, but anyway that was the case.

It finally reached a point where I asked him to turn it down.

How you can continually listen to that crap is beyond me. Even if I believed Rush and friends were sincere.. which I don't they'd be annoying. But they're not sincere. Everything is "They- they- they." "They would have us paying 100% taxes and saying the gay pledge of allegiance in public schools..."

Now my new coworker listens to Alex Jones all day! Wow. He's probably as bad as Limbaugh in terms of the noise coming out of his mouth, in fact they're quite similar in many ways. But- Alex Jones errs on the side of spreading paranoia and resistance to oppression rather than telling people to lay down and lube up for the corporations and the government. Funny how the so called conservatives have become the watchdogs of excess. I went from "everything the US does is great- screw the weak, screw the crybabies, screw the rest of the world, screw anyone who gets in the way of the rich and empowered" to now days, "the sky is falling... go stock up on guns and rations and don't forget ammo... buy gold... they're listening to us now... get mad as hell... unite.. fight the man."

I tried so hard to learn from my friend.. to understand how he could buy in to the right wing "end justifies the means" propaganda. We agreed on a great many things- but then on key points we clashed hard. He thought the war on terror was justified. He thought Gitmo was club paradise and violations of human rights were okay because our intentions were in the American interest.

I just don't even get how someone could say they "love Rush Limbaugh." Does he make people feel righteous in their hatred of those "dirty liberals?" Does that make them feel special and precious? C'mon man.. it's a big jerk off. He's a windbag in love with the sound of his own voice and you're just encouraging him more. Snap out of it man! Smelling salts over here already.

Again even if I believed .. somehow-don't ask me how... Rush L is an unbearable windbag. The left has them too- they say nothing of substance but rather bash "them" all day and if you're not "them" you eat it up because it makes you like a part of something big. Please. Wake up .. there's a fence on 3 sides of you, a guy with a cattle prod behind you -and your guy is standing there thinking "look at these idiots who love me," and telling you what to think.

[tk421]

The people who really hate Limbaugh are liberals. Even independents and moderates don't hate the guy... they might ignore him or discount him, but they tend not to actually hate him.

I am conservative, though I tend to be more moderate about many things. I am very religious as well.

People like Rush Limbaugh embarrass me. Conservative talk show hosts in general seem to make a lot of accusations, and I think they are very divisive. And, as others have pointed out, the facts often do not line up with what they claim. I don't like to be associated with them.

...they say nothing of substance but rather bash "them" all day...

Well stated.

[v-ault]

I am conservative, though I tend to be more moderate about many things. I am very religious as well.

People like Rush Limbaugh embarrass me. Conservative talk show hosts in general seem to make a lot of accusations, and I think they are very divisive. And, as others have pointed out, the facts often do not line up with what they claim. I don't like to be associated with them.


Dude, come on, Rush is hilarious. I love the way he disses liberals. Not everything has to be serious all the time.

I love hearing people say the Cowboys are a crappy franchise but that doesn't make it tru.

That's the whole point.

[leekohler]

Dude, come on, Rush is hilarious. I love the way he disses liberals. Not everything has to be serious all the time.

I love hearing people say the Cowboys are a crappy franchise but that doesn't make it tru.

That's the whole point.

Why do you love him so much? Because you hate liberals? Do you think Al Franken and Jon Stewart are equally funny? Can't wait for this one...

[stevento]

BTW, he's endorsing Romney :cool::cool::cool:

good, so romney can win, so hillary can steamroll him in the general.
romney has been quoted on both sides of alot of issues. he wont win.

[Dont Hurt Me]

Rush is impressive I mean come on who else could use a zit on his butt to avoid Vietnam! Rush is a real American Hero!

Im sure all his prowar talk on Iraq is because he wishes he was young enough to go fight.......................

[Thomas Veil]

Rush Limbaugh is "rather mainstream", not a wacko right-wing extremist? A distortion that is Rush-worthy in itself. The redoubtable Mr. Limbaugh is one of the worst demagogues ever to ride the airwaves. The only thing about him that I marvel at is the sheer naturalness in which lies come to him, the brazenness with which he can take a steaming cow turd and declare it to be a chocolate eclair.

Dude, come on, Rush is hilarious. I love the way he disses liberals. Not everything has to be serious all the time.Yeah. My favorite hilarious Rush Limbaugh moment was when he (among others) exploited the funeral of Paul Wellstone in order to try to smear the Democratic party. Disrespecting a beloved man like that, only days after he shuffled off this mortal coil, while his family and friends are still grieving -- now that is classically funny! Ohh, and calling then-13 year old Chelsea Clinton "the White House dog" -- falling-on-the-floor hilarious, man! Picking on kids, that is hysterical!

[RacerX]

I always figured that Rush's main audience was white males who squandered away their better years (or are in the middle of squandering them) and are looking for someone else to blame for their mistakes in life. This core group of angry people need only one thing from their leaders, a direction in which to point that anger. Reason, logic... even truth be dammed, as long as someone else provides the target.

This group can never be utilized by anyone who can't lie with ease. Unless you are willing to give up on the truth or throw out ethics, their is no way to jump in and redirect these people. They don't want truth, they want a scape goat.

It is always far easier to lie to point these people at others than to explain the actual facts. Actual facts can take time to see and understand, and the people that like Limbaugh don't have time for evidence.

The mountain of evidence of wrong doing by both the Bush administration and Republicans in general is just that... a mountain of evidence which takes too long for these people to look through. Ethical people of both the left and right want to explain why things are, but those who can shed their ethics can say what ever they want... facts need not apply. :eek:

[hulugu]

Oh good, another thread where v-ault gets to pontificate on his own personal opinions and establish a syllogism we're all supposed to argue against.

Yes, please more of these.

[Thomas Veil]

...and if you order now, we'll throw in this second detestable conservative at the bottom of the page, absolutely free!

[ham_man]

Disagree with his politics, but Rush is one of the funniest men on radio or television today.

Just read through this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rush_Limbaugh_Show) and this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jargon_of_The_Rush_Limbaugh_Show) and tell me that Rush isn't funny.

[Queso]

I've only listened to his show once and found him extremely dull. He rambled every point, and spoke for long periods without saying anything at all, controversial or not. So if that's considered good radio in the USA I'll chalk it up as another reason to be glad I don't live there.

[leekohler]

...and if you order now, we'll throw in this second detestable conservative at the bottom of the page, absolutely free!

Oh yeah! Come on v-ault. Start a thread telling us how much you love Ann Coulter. That should be fun! :)

[Thomas Veil]

Disagree with his politics, but Rush is one of the funniest men on radio or television today.

Just read through this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rush_Limbaugh_Show) and this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jargon_of_The_Rush_Limbaugh_Show) and tell me that Rush isn't funny.Okay.

I read it.

I'm telling you Rush is not funny.

(See? Who says I'm hard to get along with?)

[leekohler]

Okay.

I read it.

I'm telling you Rush is not funny.

(See? Who says I'm hard to get along with?)

Ditto. :)

[Roger1]

Ditto. :)

Ugh. :p

[leekohler]

Ugh. :p

I couldn't help it! :)

[Roger1]

It's especially ugh because I can't think of a good pun to go with it. :(

[atszyman]

Disagree with his politics, but Rush is one of the funniest men on radio or television today.

Just read through this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rush_Limbaugh_Show) and this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jargon_of_The_Rush_Limbaugh_Show) and tell me that Rush isn't funny.

Since he likes to use pet names for Democrats, can we start calling Rush the Oxy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxycontin)-moron?

[leekohler]

Since he likes to use pet names for Democrats, can we start calling Rush the Oxy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxycontin)-moron?

That's awesome! You should e-mail it to him and see if he laughs. :) I mean- he's such a funny guy and all.

[atszyman]

That's awesome! You should e-mail it to him and see if he laughs. :) I mean- he's such a funny guy and all.

Of course a google search proved I was not the first to come up with the term in relation to Rush... and I thought I was being original...

[solvs]

Back when Clinton was Pres, I didn't exactly watch or listen to Rush religiously, but except for the Chelsea insult (which really turned me off of him and his tactics) I thought he hit some good points. Then Bush became Pres, and suddenly he was defending the same, or worse, from him. Partisan hackery at its worst. And yet we're all just partisan liberals if we disagree with him and his ilk.

I'm not surprised you like him, you use the same style and tactics.

(and just to preempt your next statement, liberal liberal liberal)

[Thomas Veil]

I've got only a five-minute trip in to work, solvs, so I've tuned to Rush a couple of times in the last two weeks to see how he's trying to spin the primaries.

And I think he's losing it a little bit.

I noticed he turned rather pissy when the Democrats took back control of Congress. But now that McCain is almost certain to be the Republican nominee, he's become very angry. McCain, is, for all his faults, anathema to the neocons, who would prefer a Huckabee or at least settle for Romney. So Rush blusters and frets as if electing John McCain would be the worst thing that's ever happened to the Republican party.

It's as if Rush is on his own personal jihad against the man.

I hold no brief for McCain, but for cryin' out loud, Rush needs to get a grip. Numbers of primary delegates are hard, cold facts, and Rush is crapping cookies that there's no way he can spin that. And it's driving him nuts.

Edit: I just noticed -- v-ault is banned. That was fast.

[MacHipster]

Edit: I just noticed -- v-ault is banned. That was fast.

Depends on your point of view, really.

[Thomas Veil]

I guess so. :p

[motulist]

Edit: I just noticed -- v-ault is banned. That was fast.

I wonder why? He didn't seem to be doing anything wrong in the posts of his that I noticed. Too bad we'll never know due to MR's policy of not explaining the reason for a user's ban. Oh well.

[Kashchei]

Rush, despondent over the mid-term election losses in 2006, admitted that he was tired of "carrying the water" for the GOP. In other words, he voluntarily confessed that what he had been saying before the election had been propaganda he did not believe in. I find it odd that the "ditto heads" don't seem concerned that they are fervently listening to an admitted propagandist. Whenever I listen to Rush--know your enemy--I always find it rather pathetic how desperate many of the callers are to get Rush's approval. John Dean hit the nail on the head by diagnosing this personality disorder as "authoritarian follower."

[Kashchei]

I wonder why? He didn't seem to be doing anything wrong in the posts of his that I noticed. Too bad we'll never know due to MR's policy of not explain the reason for a user's ban. Oh well.

Could v-ault have been the return of Swarmlord? This might explain the ban. Pure speculation on my part.

[Queso]

Could v-ault have been the return of Swarmlord? This might explain the ban. Pure speculation on my part.
Wait, I missed this. When did Swarmie get banned?

[leekohler]

Wait, I missed this. When did Swarmie get banned?

Yes he did. I was kind of wondering if maybe it was him too. An extra bitter version, but still him. :)

[atszyman]

Could v-ault have been the return of Swarmlord? This might explain the ban. Pure speculation on my part.

Yes he did. I was kind of wondering if maybe it was him too. An extra bitter version, but still him. :)

Nah, I doubt it was Swarmie... Swarmie usually provided links, and referenced his stock portfolio and excellent work benefits more often...

Swarmie also never indicated a desire to run for public office like v-ault did in another thread. I get the impression that v-ault was in his 20s, probably early 20s, where Swarmie seemed a few years older than that...

[Roger1]

Interesting analysis of swarmlord and v-ault. I didn't think they were the same because of writing styles. When I read swarmlords, I always had a picture of a guy laughing as he wrote it, his sole purpose to get people here all riled up. I couldn't help but laugh when people would start replying.

v-ault on the other hand,seemed to be more arrogant than swarmlord ever was, and condescending to boot. Anyway, because of his condescension, his posts weren't any fun to read.

Any way you slice it, it's going to be boring around here.
:p

[Thomas Veil]

I wonder why? He didn't seem to be doing anything wrong in the posts of his that I noticed. Too bad we'll never know due to MR's policy of not explaining the reason for a user's ban. Oh well.I've thought about that. I suppose it could be more of a pattern of behavior than one particular post or two -- stirring up trouble, as it were. Or, it's even possible that it was one particularly inflammatory post that the mods later removed, leaving us scratching our heads.

As you say, we'll never know.

I don't think swarmy and v-ault were the same person.

[Queso]

Not the same person at all. This thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4790710#post4790710) was started by v-ault and later posted in by Swarmie.

[solvs]

I wonder why? He didn't seem to be doing anything wrong in the posts of his that I noticed.
We were arguing about tactics, and he posted some not so nice things that are now deleted. Worse than usual. Apparently there was a really bad one that was the final straw, but it was gone and so was he before I got the chance to read it.

I couldn't help but laugh when people would start replying.
I know, and I kept falling for it. :o I knew what he was doing too, even tried to call him on it, but couldn't resist the railing, especially when he'd really piss me off. I eventually started to catch myself, and if I did reply, tried not to put as much thought into it because it became a "why bother" type situation, but then he got banned, and that was that.

v-ault on the other hand,seemed to be more arrogant than swarmlord ever was, and condescending to boot. Anyway, because of his condescension, his posts weren't any fun to read.
That's why I tried to nip things in the bud when he first started acting like that. Others did as well. Some just ignored, but same thing, I couldn't take the rhetoric. Try being the focus of those condescending remarks, just pushed me even more (and yes, I get that that was the point). I can't stand when someone, especially so undeservingly, uses that much condescension. Or should I say, condensation. :p

Edit: Ok, deserved or not, that was mean, and I apologize. :o See my previous statement on this Pyhrric victory. I still stand by that.

[Desertrat]

The only time I listen to radio at all is during highway trips. So, maybe once a month for a couple of days.

I find Rush to be entertaining and funny, although I couldn't listen to ANYBODY each and every day.

What I have noticed from time to time from those who castigate Rush for being incorrect/wrong/lying is that they're talking about his conclusions from what he cites in some news articles. All that means is that there is disagreement, not that he's wilfully wrong or telling a lie.

His insults of liberals are definitely a helluva lot more polite than the insults toward conservatives which are common at this website.

RacerX's opening lines in Post #17 (IIRC) are as foolish as anything Rush ever said. :D

Whether the talkshow host is liberal, conservative or "just plain ranter", most of the callers make me wish my car radio had a mute button on the steering wheel.

Anyway, ol' Rush does best on economic issues, IMO. And, he has a heckuva good research staff, to find the sound bites he uses.

I guess my summary would be that he's the most entertaining of the talkshow folks, and he's generally funny. Beats heck out of Top Forty, anyway...

:), 'Rat

[Thomas Veil]

RacerX's opening lines in Post #17 (IIRC) are as foolish as anything Rush ever said. :DWell, Rush's core audience is definitely angry white men. Nothing foolish about saying that.

I don't know what kind of insults are hurled towards conservatives at Rush's web site, but I do know that I don't appreciate Rush always characterizing liberals as people who want everyone to be dependent on the government, or who want us to fail against terrorism, or any of the other hyperbolic blanket aspersions he casts on us to make us look un-American.

As to economics, I don't begin to fathom how that is his strong point.

I would agree that all talk radio is getting hard to listen to. There's just too much of it, and very little of it that is entertaining or truly informative.

I doubt you'd agree with me on this specific person, but Keith Olbermann is someone I would point to as a model of "how to do it"...even though his show is on TV, not radio. He's sarcastic only when someone deserves it, he's got all his facts in a row, he rarely distorts anything, he mixes light and heavy content well, he saves his genuine anger for special occasions, he's actually witty, he doesn't assume his audience is gullible, and he doesn't take himself too seriously.

[RacerX]

RacerX's opening lines in Post #17 (IIRC) are as foolish as anything Rush ever said. :D
Quick review of what I said:"I always figured that Rush's main audience was white males who squandered away their better years (or are in the middle of squandering them) and are looking for someone else to blame for their mistakes in life. This core group of angry people need only one thing from their leaders, a direction in which to point that anger. Reason, logic... even truth be dammed, as long as someone else provides the target."I was speaking from personal experiences with people who follow Limbaugh, but the type of person I was describing is my father. He is angry at life (mainly his life I would guess) and wants someone else to carry the blame, and just about any target will do. Reason has nothing to do with it, he is looking to channel his disappointment in himself outward and people like Limbaugh are willing to give him and others like him targets.

For example, why are so many people angry at immigrants? Immigrants are what all of us are (other than native Americans) and really are what made America a great country. Yet we seem to have a segment of the population who have had their anger pointed in this direction.

I dislike Limbaugh for specific reasons... lack of moral or ethical conviction, inability to function honestly, etc. And I dislike one primary factor about the people who follow him. and that is their willingness to succumb to the mop mentality. Limbaugh loves this type of feeding frenzy, where other great leaders of the past have outright chastised their own followers for such transgressions (Mahatma Gandhi comes to mind as one such example).


It is sad though... what we so desperately need is a leader who could make all of us sit up, take notice of what is happening and inspire us to accept responsibility for the position we are in today and the hard road we must take to fix things. We don't have anyone like that, but we have tons of people who (like Limbaugh) are willing to go the other direction. People who will promise fantasy fixes that require nothing of anyone.

In recent years too many Americans have felt that they were doing their part by picking up a flag and waving it. I see that has hiding behind a symbol rather than doing what is really needed... helping our fellow Americans and accepting a little more burden. Avoiding that burden today doesn't make our responsibilities go away, it just makes the consequences of avoiding them that much greater down the road.

[Desertrat]

Damfino. I'm 73, and my comment is, "My wrinkles come from grinnin'." I've enjoyed the heck out of my life. Good professional record, lots of fun in avocations. Sure, I've had rough times. TB, cancer, been broke. Big effing deal. The world is a great big playground, and I don't see the point of breaking the swings, slides and see-saws.

I don't get mad at liberals, particularly. I get somewhat bent out of shape from those liberal ideas which don't fit reality. I also get bent over dumb ideas from the conservative side. But, most conservatives aren't as activist.

Damfino. Maybe "idea people" oughta just stay home. Too many folks don't understand human nature or the reality of the way the world works. :D If liberals think more than conservatives, they sure oughta quit. :D:D:D

'Rat

[Roger1]

I don't get mad at liberals, particularly. I get somewhat bent out of shape from those liberal ideas which don't fit reality. I also get bent over dumb ideas from the conservative side. But, most conservatives aren't as activist.

Damfino. Maybe "idea people" oughta just stay home. Too many folks don't understand human nature or the reality of the way the world works. :D If liberals think more than conservatives, they sure oughta quit. :D:D:D

'Rat

LOL, if we quit coming up with ideas, what would you get bent over??:p