Apple Event in Last Week of February?

[teleromeo]

SDK, iPhone 2nd generation (release in May), iPhone goes on sale in the entire EU

It won't.
Belgian law does not allow combine sale of phones and subscription. Apple will have to find a creative solution for my country.

[olternaut]

What if the Apple UMPC using Silverthorne is coming out mid-summer, and what if it has 3G cellular builtin?

Apple might preannounce it at the end of Feb (we know that Silverthorne protos are around) so that there won't be the issue of FCC leaks during qualification.

MACTOUCH FTW!!!!!!!111 :D:cool::D

[HeavenlyYeti]

Awesome! :)

[xDANx]

It won't happen on a Friday because then Apple doesn't get all the buzz and press coverage during the busy work week. That is the main reason why most announcements and product releases from Apple happen on Tuesday. On a Friday, there would be little press over the weekend and they would lose the viral marketing that works so well for them.

In addition, they generally like to "start the buzz" about 10-14 days before the event so people will speculate what it is all about and be more attentive. There is too little time left before the 15th to make this a reality. Sorry....


unless the iPhone SDK is going to be so much less than what everyone has imagined that they don't want buzz or press but just want to quietly slip it out the door. of course, then why have a 'special' event at all? it's too high profile not to do some kind of press conference...but maybe they want to minimize the exposure. i have no idea why i'm being so negative about the SDK...i just can't help but feel like it's not going to be nearly as freeing as everyone seems to think it's going to be.

[olternaut]

unless the iPhone SDK is going to be so much less than what everyone has imagined that they don't want buzz or press but just want to quietly slip it out the door. of course, then why have a 'special' event at all? it's too high profile not to do some kind of press conference...but maybe they want to minimize the exposure. i have no idea why i'm being so negative about the SDK...i just can't help but feel like it's not going to be nearly as freeing as everyone seems to think it's going to be.

Oh, we know its not. But it is still very important anyway. I'm just hoping that they are going to use the event as an excuse to announce the......*can't contain himself*........arghhhhh MACTOUCH FTW!!!!!!!!!111111111111 YEEEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWWWW :D:D

[marshalljones]

I don't know what they're going to announce nor am I going to speculate.

What want is Apple to introduce a multi-touch, glass, tablet-like 30-inch screen capable of recognizing third party devices such as a pen, brush, etc. The keyboard would NOT be on the screen but rather a typical keyboard. We would find out that Leopard was delayed because they were integrating multi-touch into the operating system.

As a graphic designer this would make Photoshop, Illustrator, Final Cut, etc. much more fluid and intuitive ... and possibly cut down on carpal tunnel.

I think it would be a natural progression from the iPhone (multi-touch, glass screen) and iMac (glass screen). Hopefully, it would be a more economic response to the Microsoft Surface.

I want my desktop to be a desktop.

[lexkonishi]

I do know that Avid is telling all their potential customers to wait until this event to purchase anything.

A guy I know is building a couple of post-production trucks and has been torn between putting Final Cut stations in or Avids... Mostly because Avid's Unity servers are far more accepted than the Xsans and Xserves in the higher end, post production, environment. He said that it is likely an announcement that Avid and Apple finally have joined together to make their Unity server FCP friendly.

This is amidst the circulating rumor that Avid is pulling out of the Software side of video/film production and focusing on their Hardware ventures. The idea of joining up with Apple for their most popular and higher profit-margin product would definitely fall in line with this idea.

[happydude]

Oh, we know its not. But it is still very important anyway. I'm just hoping that they are going to use the event as an excuse to announce the......*can't contain himself*........arghhhhh MACTOUCH FTW!!!!!!!!!111111111111 YEEEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWWWW :D:D

hilarious, love it. yeehaw indeed. i'm just excited to pick up my iphone in 6 days, learn the ropes and then watch the SDK make the apps come a rollin home to papa!!!:apple::apple::apple:

[EagerDragon]

IMHO Apple will not do an event about the SDK. An SDK is for orogrammers and the next Apple software conference is ways away. Most buyers do not know or care to program. Most media would getting wrong also.

However the may announce SDK and show a bunch of newly minted native apps that will be sold via iTunes.

[Analog Kid]

What are the chances that Apple has already popped in a 3G chip when they updated the storage-capacities? I mean, 3G chips can run on EDGE when there's no 3G available, so, conceivably, there could be a software update that "unlocks" the 3G option. Combine that with AT&T's recent news (http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/06/atandts-2008-plans-include-80-new-cities-with-3g-hsupa-network/) about increased 3G network coverage, Europeans (some of whom live in countries where EDGE just doesn't exist anymore) craving an iPhone of their own, and the SDK... That would make for a nice announcement, wouldn't it?

iPhone SDK
iPhone 3G "Unlock"
European iPhone expansion

Fingers crossed. :)
Certainly possible, but I think we'd start hearing about small differences between the phones if there was anything more than a storage change. And if they made that big of a change, I think they'd have held off release until the event. I suspect we'll officially hear about the 3G phone a couple months before it ships.

[manhattanboy]

If 9to5mac is in, then it probably is true.
Please someone figure out a BT-DUN.app
:p

[manhattanboy]

MACTOUCH FTW!!!!!!!111 :D:cool::D

Apple hasn't had the MacTouch lately with their timing of product announcements.
Anyway...
I'm still waiting for the King of Pop to show up with his white glove and do the intro to the touch, c'mon ye-ye-ye, cha-yah [spins and grabs crouch with non-gloved hand]:cool:

[skiesforme]

Just like Feb 2006 announcement...

iPhone leather cases
iPhone HiFi
er, thats all folk's.
----
Not really.

Demo of the SDK with big names on board like Lotus, and other business friendly apps.

I think also maybe the much speculated on 'missing' product announcement from the Keynote. Quite possibly the bigger iPod Touch/PDA/Tablet that we have been clamouring for for ever.

Erica Sadun over at TUAW reckons there is some evidence for it too. And she is like, well smart.

I seriously doubt if they would come up with a MacTouch thingie !
Probably, we are looking at:-
:apple: -> Blabbering about the 16 GB iPhone / 32 GB iTouch to start with..
:apple: -> MBP Penryn + multitouch trackpad (the high point !?)
:apple: -> 10.5.2 ("Starting today, all new MBP would now ship with 10.5.2")
:apple: -> iPhone SDK ("We have waited for it so long, and here it is...")
:apple: -> Apple TV(I don't follow Apple TV that much, so... not sure..:p)
:apple: -> Some business applications/new software for the Pro users !
:cool::D;) !! That's all folks !! :cool::D;)

[Kar98]

Oh! I know! Flash-based Mac mini!

http://i28.tinypic.com/69olyp.jpg


And a multitouch mouse! (instead of the damn mighty mouse nipple)

[jhsfosho]

Hopefully new MBP. Even though I don't need one, they are due for updating.

[Schizophrenic]

i want my MBP! ive been waiting since aug 07! my current laptop is dying! -_-

[imwoblin]

I don't think Apple will give any early warning on the 3G iPhone. I think they will just announce it the day it is released just like the 16GB. If Apple says " New 3G iPhone available July 20!, not one person with an ounce of brains will purchase the current model throwing iPhone sales under the bus until the new version is released. Kinda a catch 22 situation.

[Martin C]

i want my MBP! ive been waiting since aug 07!
Why didn't you buy the current Santa Rosa version back when it was recently updated?

[Schizophrenic]

Why didn't you buy the current Santa Rosa version back when it was recently updated?

I was hoping for a major update. besides wasnt it update in june?

[TuffLuffJimmy]

I don't think Apple will give any early warning on the 3G iPhone. I think they will just announce it the day it is released just like the 16GB. If Apple says " New 3G iPhone available July 20!, not one person with an ounce of brains will purchase the current model throwing iPhone sales under the bus until the new version is released. Kinda a catch 22 situation.

ugggh
this conversation has been disscussed so much.
Apple will have to anounce the 3G iPhone before it's released, because it has to gain FCC approval. It's either they anounce it a few months before it's available, or the FCC lets the cat out of the bag a few months before.

"not one person with an ounce of brains"

[senorfrog97]

I remember when I was in London in January I was flipping through this newspaper I found on the Tube and they had hot upcoming electronics. It said to expect the "Macbook Touch" in February. It had a nice realistic picture and everything was stated so nonchalant like it was a known fact. (searched on the web for same realistic picture and couldn't find it). It had an optical drive in the picture though and I doubt that would be included in it so I'm sure it was just speculation.

As far as the event I'm hoping for an impressive Macbook Pro.

[mactastic1971]

I was hoping for a major update. besides wasnt it update in june?

In tests, 6 out of 3 Schizophrenics preferred a major update...

[Prof.]

And a multitouch mouse! (instead of the damn mighty mouse nipple)
Does the Mac mini even sell well? I thought there were rumors that Apple was discontinuing it.:confused:

[coolfactor]

I agree that it's stupid. I like the plastic MacBook. I have no gripes with it. I've heard that aluminum casing dents easily. It may look nicer, but I don't consider it to be as practical.

It doesn't dent. It's very practical, and with Wireless-N, the reception would be greatly improved. The MacBooks definitely get better performance out of wireless, though, but the aluminum feels solid.

They won't make an aluminum MacBook, at least not coloured that way. They'd probably anodize it black or some other color to keep it with that "consumer" feel. Silver speaks "Pro".

[OdduWon]

The MacBook Pro will most likely get released next week. The only reason for it to be updated at this event is if it has had a major redesign.

I just expect iPhone stuff at this event, plus maybe some info on the Asian launch.

Another possibility is of course BluRay support (watching and creation), but with the way things are going, they might decide to never support it and just push online video. (Seeing as Final Cut Studio probably has the poorest HD video support out of all the editing suites).

Good point.^ The state of the industry does not facilitate a unified design solution for Apple. With no "clear" standardization for High Definition content at the moment, apple must take one of two approaches toward the MBP.
Wait till a leader presents itself, most likely Blu-ray, and update all their software for that HD format. Or my preferred choice, Redesign the MBP to be expandable. The expandable design of the MB is hardly utilized in my opinion, Incorporation into a Professional portable would not only result in a Higher frequency of utility, it would also decrease the starting price of the Device. With more accessible expandability the need for high scale standard features diminishes, not to say that a high level of performance as a standard is unattractive, it simply creates a higher entry price.
If expandability is Datum for the new professional portables i believe they would sell a lot more units, but does this corrupt the Apple ideology? If they offer expandability in their pro books they introduce elements of incompatibility and hardware diversity that compromise the unity of the Macintosh platform. Levels are good, too many though and integration becomes messy.

[EagerDragon]

Don't speak so soon.. do you remember the iPod Hifi event? lol!

I think you hit it right on the head. The iPod HIFI take 2 is being anounced on Feb 26.
:o

[kabunaru]

:apple: -> 10.5.2 ("Starting today, all new MBP would now ship with 10.5.2")

I think Apple will release Mac OS 10.5.2 this coming week, not in the event.

[aznkid25]

I just checked the Moscone Center website:
http://www.moscone.com/site/do/event/list?nav.type=0
There's no mention of any Apple Event on the 26th, but there is something for CNET. Does the Moscone Center website usually have Apple Events posted?

[AidenShaw]

I just checked the Moscone Center website:
http://www.moscone.com/site/do/event/list?nav.type=0
There's no mention of any Apple Event on the 26th, but there is something for CNET. Does the Moscone Center website usually have Apple Events posted?

Moscone's page shows MacWorld Summer '08 (http://www.moscone.com/site/do/event/view;jsessionid=D58DE70527E646B6A83C4CC08CEA4657?nav.type=0&nav.filter=0806&nav.base=0802&id=281) in Moscone West from 8 to 13 June....

There are many other venues in the Valley and the City that would work. Apple's made announcements at the Flint Center auditorium in Cupertino and at the California Theatre in San Jose.

There are other theatres and convention centers and hotel ballrooms that could be used as well - Moscone is probably too large for a simple PR announcement.

[aznkid25]

Moscone's page shows MacWorld Summer '08 (http://www.moscone.com/site/do/event/view;jsessionid=D58DE70527E646B6A83C4CC08CEA4657?nav.type=0&nav.filter=0806&nav.base=0802&id=281) in Moscone West from 8 to 13 June....

There are many other venues in the Valley and the City that would work. Apple's made announcements at the Flint Center auditorium in Cupertino and at the California Theatre in San Jose.

There are other theatres and convention centers and hotel ballrooms that could be used as well - Moscone is probably too large for a simple PR announcement.
how do you know that is an apple event? It just says Corporate Event.

[aLoC]

If it is a big public event then it must be something other than the iPhone SDK. The SDK is only of interest to the developer community (and financial wonks).

And presumably it will be not be new APIs, but just a carefully chosen subset of the OS X ones, with maybe some new stuff for the touch screen. So even to developers it doesn't justify a big event.

[digitalbiker]

It doesn't dent. It's very practical, and with Wireless-N, the reception would be greatly improved. The MacBooks definitely get better performance out of wireless, though, but the aluminum feels solid.

They won't make an aluminum MacBook, at least not coloured that way. They'd probably anodize it black or some other color to keep it with that "consumer" feel. Silver speaks "Pro".

You've obviously never dropped your laptop. It dents and breaks.

Silver is outdated. I am sure Apple will head in a new direction when they finally decide to update the MBP. Silver has been the color since 2000. I think Apple will move away from metal and more towards carbon fiber. I'm thinking Black is the new pro color but with Apple you never know.

[B. Hunter]

Come on folks!

We know the SDK will be released this month.
What makes you think this event would not include this?

Good grief. Some people have posted a laundry list of things you would think this is MWSF08 part 2.

If they release the new MBP and everything else now, what is left for spring?
I think we all know there might be iWork and iLife updates. But other stuff will be held over for spring as well I think.

[agojes]

I hope they dont release the Macbook Pros so soon, I ordered one yesterday
:mad:

Could not wait...

I almost caved in myself, but I haven't bought it. So, I'd say.. c'mon MBP, been waiting since Dec.

[macmaniaco]

I intend to buy a new macbook pro and I waiting hopefully for next tuesday, but I'm afraid about the quality of the first new macbooks pro, because I don't want to change broken pieces or something like that.

Do someone had a bad experience with new models ?

Would it be better if I bought the old model ?

[joemama]

I intend to buy a new macbook pro and I waiting hopefully for next tuesday...

Can someone tell me if his means anything:

I just ordered a MBP last week, with a customized 7200 rpm 200 gig HD. I checked the shipping status today and it says it will ship on "Feb 12-14" with a delivery of "Feb 16-20"

Hmmmmm....? Should it take this long for a custom order?

Looks like we might have something new on Tuesday!

[McGiord]

If they release the new MBP and everything else now, what is left for spring?
I think we all know there might be iWork and iLife updates. But other stuff will be held over for spring as well I think.


As I remember MWSF Steve mentioned something like :apple: has many weeks to come with new products, or this is just the beginning of 2008...or something like that.

New stuff is what we must be seeing.....
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[digitalbiker]

As I remember MWSF Steve mentioned something like :apple: has many weeks to come with new products, or this is just the beginning of 2008...or something like that.

New stuff is what we must be seeing.....

Steve tends to say things that are just meant to spark interest or sell more product.

For instance a few years ago, Steve announced that it was Apple's "Year of the Laptop". They released the ibook and little else the whole year.

Then the next year he called it "The year of HD". Apple released a couple of new ACD's and converted to 16x9 aspect ratios on their laptop line. Nothing else happened the whole year.

So don't make too much out of a Steve keynote. It is all fluff.

[aznkid25]

I was planning on getting an Ipod Touch this weekend. Should I wait until after this event?

[Tosser]

I was planning on getting an Ipod Touch this weekend. Should I wait until after this event?

You'll be the judge of that. Just don't count on updates/added features without paying for them.
My advice is to not buy it on some idea of promises on what it can be, but only buy it if it truly is worth it for you in it's current form and function.

[olternaut]

I remember when I was in London in January I was flipping through this newspaper I found on the Tube and they had hot upcoming electronics. It said to expect the "Macbook Touch" in February. It had a nice realistic picture and everything was stated so nonchalant like it was a known fact. (searched on the web for same realistic picture and couldn't find it). It had an optical drive in the picture though and I doubt that would be included in it so I'm sure it was just speculation.

As far as the event I'm hoping for an impressive Macbook Pro.

You mean its MACTOUCH FTW!!!!!1111....for realz???? :confused::eek:

[Mitchy Brehd]

Will SDK be the same as if it were jailbroken?

[Tosser]

Will SDK be the same as if it were jailbroken?

Noone knows.
My bet is that will be crippled in one way or the other, plus it will come with a plan just like the iTMS or as is the case with the ringtones (pay to get something ridiculous).

[sam10685]

It's a hoax.

[Full of Win]

Apple released a couple of new ACD's and converted to 16x9 aspect ratios

It is 16:10, not 16:9

[Macmel]

I think too all this is about the iPhone. A change in processors won't justify a press conference.
And about the MBP, which I'm waiting for like so many of you, browsing through the post, I think this is a summary of what you consider a minor redesign:

- MB/MBA-like keyboard.
- New GPU or VRAM increase.
- Magnetic latch.
- Bigger multitouch trackpad.

What would you consider to be a "major redesign"? Maybe a detachable screen wirelessly controlled that you could hang in front of you?:eek:
Seriously, the only real improvement I could see is thickness. I can see Apple shaving a few mm off their MB and MBP, but I don't know if that is a major redesign...

[aznkid25]

You'll be the judge of that. Just don't count on updates/added features without paying for them.
My advice is to not buy it on some idea of promises on what it can be, but only buy it if it truly is worth it for you in it's current form and function.

For me its not really that much about the features. For me its more about the price. I don't want to buy it this weekend, and then find out at this event that they drop the price by $100.

[AidenShaw]

Moscone's page shows MacWorld Summer '08 (http://www.moscone.com/site/do/event/view;jsessionid=D58DE70527E646B6A83C4CC08CEA4657?nav.type=0&nav.filter=0806&nav.base=0802&id=281) in Moscone West from 8 to 13 June....

how do you know that is an apple event? It just says Corporate Event.

You're right, all we know is that some secretive corporation has booked Moscone West for a big event in mid-June.... :rolleyes:

[dernhelm]

If it is a big public event then it must be something other than the iPhone SDK. The SDK is only of interest to the developer community (and financial wonks).

And presumably it will be not be new APIs, but just a carefully chosen subset of the OS X ones, with maybe some new stuff for the touch screen. So even to developers it doesn't justify a big event.

They won't just be announcing the SDK - there will also be the availability of several 3rd party applications for it as well. Steve'll trot those out and show them off - the dev kit will be an "oh yeah - and you can develop for this too if you want - and it's free". The announcement will be that the iPhone is opening up to third party apps -not just that there is a free dev kit.

That announcement (depending upon the apps) could be huge for the business community.

[guzhogi]

The pessimist in me says Apple will announce the SDK alongside a new, updated iPhone and say that you can only use the SDK on the new iPhone. Everyone who has an older one is screwed.

[Mr. Funsocks]

So how many of you think that the MBP will be released at this supposed event? Or on next Tuesday?

[Virgil-TB2]

You've obviously never dropped your laptop. It dents and breaks.

Silver is outdated. I am sure Apple will head in a new direction when they finally decide to update the MBP. Silver has been the color since 2000. I think Apple will move away from metal and more towards carbon fiber. I'm thinking Black is the new pro color but with Apple you never know.The aluminium does dent, but it's not easy to do it. Most of the laptops I see day to day have to be a few years old before they seriously start to dent up. A MacBook of similar age looks a lot worse IMO (cracks, stains, etc.).

I think the carbon fibre idea is more "yesterday" than the future. Carbon fibre has been around for 20 years and has the disadvantage of high production costs and zero recycle-ability. Apple is moving towards more ecologically sound products, so I don't think you will be seeing carbon fibre anytime soon.

If recent developments are any guide, I think you will see raw metal (of one kind or another) used, with molecular-level colouring/texturing of the surface.

[Mitchy Brehd]

Noone knows.
My bet is that will be crippled in one way or the other, plus it will come with a plan just like the iTMS or as is the case with the ringtones (pay to get something ridiculous).

So you will have to pay for sdk???

[BrittQ]

They will not release a new iphone after they just boosted the HD space.

[Sannekita]

I do know that Avid is telling all their potential customers to wait until this event to purchase anything.

A guy I know is building a couple of post-production trucks and has been torn between putting Final Cut stations in or Avids... Mostly because Avid's Unity servers are far more accepted than the Xsans and Xserves in the higher end, post production, environment. He said that it is likely an announcement that Avid and Apple finally have joined together to make their Unity server FCP friendly.

This is amidst the circulating rumor that Avid is pulling out of the Software side of video/film production and focusing on their Hardware ventures. The idea of joining up with Apple for their most popular and higher profit-margin product would definitely fall in line with this idea.

WOW, that would be huge!! how likely is this???

[hollywoodmacguy]

ok, since the conventional wisdom now is that an event on the 26th is confirmed, what is the conventional wisdom on when the event would be announced to the media? is it usually one week in advance or two? seems that in the past it has been two, but i may be misremembering...

in either case, seems like there would be something from by the 19th at the latest or, possibly, as early as this coming tuesday (12th)... :rolleyes:

[dbam987]

So to sum up the rumors...


MBP update
Mac Mini update (I'm waiting for this)
IPod Phone/Touch SDK (Waiting for this anxiously too)
Leopard 10.5.2 (Also waiting for this)
Apple Cinema Display Update (I'm hoping for a price reduction)


Did I forget anything?

[Bonte]

I do know that Avid is telling all their potential customers to wait until this event to purchase anything.

A guy I know is building a couple of post-production trucks and has been torn between putting Final Cut stations in or Avids... Mostly because Avid's Unity servers are far more accepted than the Xsans and Xserves in the higher end, post production, environment. He said that it is likely an announcement that Avid and Apple finally have joined together to make their Unity server FCP friendly.

This is amidst the circulating rumor that Avid is pulling out of the Software side of video/film production and focusing on their Hardware ventures. The idea of joining up with Apple for their most popular and higher profit-margin product would definitely fall in line with this idea.

Maybe Apple can Buy Avid? Market Cap is only $849 million and both are not attending the NAB convention this year. New Rumor ;)

[Tosser]

The aluminium does dent, but it's not easy to do it. Most of the laptops I see day to day have to be a few years old before they seriously start to dent up. A MacBook of similar age looks a lot worse IMO (cracks, stains, etc.).

I think the carbon fibre idea is more "yesterday" than the future. Carbon fibre has been around for 20 years and has the disadvantage of high production costs and zero recycle-ability. Apple is moving towards more ecologically sound products, so I don't think you will be seeing carbon fibre anytime soon.

If recent developments are any guide, I think you will see raw metal (of one kind or another) used, with molecular-level colouring/texturing of the surface.

Yes, and people seem to not know that just like metal, carbon fibre can duct electricity.

I do like carbon fibre, but I am not sure I want it in a laptop. To me, that would look like one of those gamer's laptops. Not pro at all.

Go bloody magnesium if anything. And then either have it brushed, or paint it matte black.

[Peace]

You're right, all we know is that some secretive corporation has booked Moscone West for a big event in mid-June.... :rolleyes:


That's more than likely the WWDC 08'.

[Goldfinger]

I'm only hoping for an Aperture update :(

[MartinelliMinim]

This Time They Better Come Out With The Mbp Updates! I Have Been Waiting For The Longest Time!

[Reach]

Along with the SDK and maybe new video equipment, I'm with FCPNewbie and calling an introduction to the new version of the discontinued Shake, which is code named Phenomenon, and was said to be ready in '08. It should be just like Shake is, but running in realtime on the GPU, basically Motion on Hollywood Steroids...

And the MacBook Pros better be coming this next tuesday, if they don't, then I am expecting a big announcement about them at this event, more than a simple speed bump.

I'd love to get some news on Phenomenon too. I do video-work, and would love to get a little "beyond" Motion, but since Shake has been EOL'd, I would really want to spend my time learning something that I would be able to use a lot longer, like the new thing..

[AidenShaw]

That's more than likely the WWDC 08'.

Yes, WWDC '08 is the other name for MacWorld Summer 2008 .... ;)

[Pukey]

I miss Apple Computer Inc.

[Mr. Funsocks]

So to sum up the rumors...


MBP update
Mac Mini update (I'm waiting for this)
IPod Phone/Touch SDK (Waiting for this anxiously too)
Leopard 10.5.2 (Also waiting for this)
Apple Cinema Display Update (I'm hoping for a price reduction)


Did I forget anything?

While I'd like to see this I think that this list it a bit optimistic. Realisticly we will see at least the SDK, 10.5.2, and the MBPs. We might see the other things at WWDC.

[maestro55]

I am hoping for the SDK and new apps, I hope others get what they want as well. Will be interesting to see, Apple has plenty up their sleeves.

[Mr. Funsocks]

I am hoping for the SDK and new apps, I hope others get what they want as well. Will be interesting to see, Apple has plenty up their sleeves.

Why would apple released new apps after they just released ones at MWSF?

[Frazzle]

If there's so much television and media involved, it could be...

1. Final Cut update - Blu-ray support and all that
2. iPhone 3G announcement
3. Movies and tv episodes finally available for sale and rent in European iTunes stores

[TedB]

The pessimist in me says Apple will announce the SDK alongside a new, updated iPhone and say that you can only use the SDK on the new iPhone. Everyone who has an older one is screwed.

*cough* $400 to $500 Apple rebate for early adopters ;) *cough* lol jk

I doubt apple will close out the 1st gen iPhone from a SDK release, but you never know I guess.

I still believe there is something to the 3G sim card in the current iPhone. They are probably expecting many people to upgrade to a 3G iPhone, and it will make the turnover a simple sim swap out. Maybe a trade in program? That would be sweet (if apple offers a fair deal).

[Joe B]

Im just wondering...


If I pick up a Mac Mini sometime next week, it arrives about 5 days later, only for Apple to update it on the 26th (Or whenever this rumoured event happens). Can I ring up Apple telesales, send it back to them and them send me out a updated version from the same price? Or am I best waiting til march 1st, probley for them not to update the mini ;p

[Marvin1379]

Im just wondering...


If I pick up a Mac Mini sometime next week, it arrives about 5 days later, only for Apple to update it on the 26th (Or whenever this rumoured event happens). Can I ring up Apple telesales, send it back to them and them send me out a updated version from the same price? Or am I best waiting til march 1st, probley for them not to update the mini ;p

I'd wait if i were you. not worth the headaches of trying to convince them to return it. In previous experiences they have said that computers were unreturnable since they were "customized," even if they were original config.

[3247]

I still believe there is something to the 3G sim card in the current iPhone.Please stop.
The only difference between GSM and UMTS ("3G") SIM cards is the version number of the standard. If you get a new SIM card, you'll get a "3G" card. This has been true here in Germany for years and I'd be surprised if AT&T has been doing things differently in the US. (I don't think pre-3G SIM cards are produced any longer.)
Yes, the SIM card probably works in iPhone v2 and any other GSM or UMTS phone (unless the phone is locked).

[olternaut]

So to sum up the rumors...


MBP update
Mac Mini update (I'm waiting for this)
IPod Phone/Touch SDK (Waiting for this anxiously too)
Leopard 10.5.2 (Also waiting for this)
Apple Cinema Display Update (I'm hoping for a price reduction)


Did I forget anything?

*ahemmmm* *clears throat* MACTOUCH FTW!!!!!1111111 YEEEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!! :D:D:D

[Digital Skunk]

I miss Apple Computer Inc.

Amen! We might as well scratch the new name as well and go with:

AppleSoft

---- OR ----

MicroApple

They are pretty much doing the same thing except Apple's software works much better. If only Mac OS X could run on PC hardware.... what a day that would be.

Hope they at least redesign the MacBook Pros BEFORE Monteniva or whatever it's called.

[God^Cent]

Just ran across this by accident and thought I'd post it here to see what you guys thought. What if apple was to start to use green plug in their new products? Green Plug is a Universal Power Adapter that uses a chip in the power cord that is plugged into the green plug adapter and adjusts the voltage to the preset chip. This means one power cord for every product and no power brick. If you take a look at it from a futuristic approach Green Plug could make a power outlet that could eliminate the adapter and could eventually become a standard for homes. Green Plug not to mention is extremely environmentally friendly!
Here's a link to a demo of the product: Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cXDtLGbg4c)

[Digital Skunk]

Just ran across this by accident and thought I'd post it here to see what you guys thought. What if apple was to start to use green plug in their new products? Green Plug is a Universal Power Adapter that uses a chip in the power cord that is plugged into the green plug adapter and adjusts the voltage to the preset chip. This means one power cord for every product and no power brick. If you take a look at it from a futuristic approach Green Plug could make a power outlet that could eliminate the adapter and could eventually become a standard for homes. Green Plug not to mention is extremely environmentally friendly!
Here's a link to a demo of the product: Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cXDtLGbg4c)

Hmmm.... innovation.... that's not Apple's thing anymore. ;)

[Tosser]

So you will have to pay for sdk???

No, that wasn't what I meant (and since I won't be developing anything myself, I couldn't care less). I meant that the products will propable have to be sold through iTunes and in order to get any of the apps the release of the sdk will result, you will have to pay Apple – even for basic apps/features.

[Kar98]

Just ran across this by accident and thought I'd post it here to see what you guys thought. What if apple was to start to use green plug in their new products? Green Plug is a Universal Power Adapter that uses a chip in the power cord that is plugged into the green plug adapter and adjusts the voltage to the preset chip. This means one power cord for every product and no power brick. If you take a look at it from a futuristic approach Green Plug could make a power outlet that could eliminate the adapter and could eventually become a standard for homes. Green Plug not to mention is extremely environmentally friendly!
Here's a link to a demo of the product: Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cXDtLGbg4c)

Throw'em ALL away, including that one, and settle for mini USB already instead of coming up with yet another "standard." We're finally making some progress, inasmuch as my PDA phone, GPS, GPS for the PDA phone, and so forth already using the same power supply. One for at home, one for the car. Took only 12 years.

[LizKat]

Orange iPod nano :)

Yes, the machine of my dreams! But I had thought... Halloween? :confused:

[Digital Skunk]

Throw'em ALL away, including that one, and settle for mini USB already instead of coming up with yet another "standard." We're finally making some progress, inasmuch as my PDA phone, GPS, GPS for the PDA phone, and so forth already using the same power supply. One for at home, one for the car. Took only 12 years.

That seems more reasonable, and Apple and other companies are already doing that. All we need now is more USB ports on the iMac and MacBook so users can charge their iPod/cell phones/GPS/cameras/etc.

Or maybe Apple can have devices charge through the FW800/3200 port and put more useful ports on their machines like that one.

[Mitchy Brehd]

No, that wasn't what I meant (and since I won't be developing anything myself, I couldn't care less). I meant that the products will propable have to be sold through iTunes and in order to get any of the apps the release of the sdk will result, you will have to pay Apple – even for basic apps/features.

So do you suggest that I should take the risk of bricking my iphone by jailbreaking it. Or wait for SDK??

[Mr. Mustard]

Slingbox for iPhone!!

That was the first thing I thought about when the iPhone came out!! How gnarly would that be?

[Tosser]

So do you suggest that I should take the risk of bricking my iphone by jailbreaking it. Or wait for SDK??

I am not suggesting either way. It's entirely up to you. The thing is, if you're happy with it, the way it is, why jailbreak it? And if you want the JB-options enough to take the risk, then do so, otherwise wait for the SDK to see if it will be worth it then.
Me, I won't be buying an iPhone (at all – it's several years behind the times as I see it), and although the touch would be nice, it is also way too limited – all in an effort to keep you locked in, way more than should be necessary. Personally, I am waiting for the sdk to appear before I reconsider buying that thing. The reason being I don't want to buy a product that ties me hand and feet an at the same time is asking me to pay extra (on top of the already high prices), and yet it can't even do disk mode.

After how Apple seem to have begun behaving, I am not willing to buy anything based on some hope or promise that there will be added any features to the items in the future. And with that, I am not buying anything from apple, unless they from the get-go are ready for use as I want them to be. They are simply crippling their products way, way too much.

The new touch, shipping with 1.1.3, cannot be jb'ed since 1.1.3 isn't broken. And that means you hve to trust Apple to deliver at some future date. You have to keep in mind, that all the benefits of the release of an SDK is pure speculation. Noone knows how crippled it will be, and how much tie-in it will have with iTunes, and how much (if anything) Apple will charge per "app". Judging from their recent behaviour, the no-disk mode, and so forth, though, I am willing to bet it will continue to be very crippled, and Apple will continue breaking (and bricking) any workaround that their iTouch/iPhone should have had from the get-go.

Now, you be the judge of whether running the risk and the trouble is worth it. :p

Edit: Looks like 1.1.3 has been jailbroke, but apparently not released:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=417834

[Pukey]

Amen! We might as well scratch the new name as well and go with:
AppleSoft
---- OR ----
MicroApple
They are pretty much doing the same thing except Apple's software works much better. If only Mac OS X could run on PC hardware.... what a day that would be.
Hope they at least redesign the MacBook Pros BEFORE Monteniva or whatever it's called.

...or MicrApple...hahaha
Yeah, Apple's OS is very good which is a big reason why I'm looking forward to the MBP update...so I can use OS X. Regarding running OS X on PC hardware though, have you seen this?

How To:
http://lifehacker.com/software/hack-attack/build-a-hackintosh-mac-for-under-800-321913.php
Benchmarks:
http://lifehacker.com/software/benchmarks/hackintosh-vs-mac-pro-vs-macbook-pro-benchmarks-322866.php

A friend of mine has built one and says his is running fine and he's using Tiger for now. I don't know a lot about it myself as I'm not very tech-minded, but it seems an interesting alternative. I'm a sucker for the nice looks of Macs though.

[Mitchy Brehd]

I am not suggesting either way. It's entirely up to you. The thing is, if you're happy with it, the way it is, why jailbreak it? And if you want the JB-options enough to take the risk, then do so, otherwise wait for the SDK to see if it will be worth it then.
Me, I won't be buying an iPhone (at all – it's several years behind the times as I see it), and although the touch would be nice, it is also way too limited – all in an effort to keep you locked in, way more than should be necessary. Personally, I am waiting for the sdk to appear before I reconsider buying that thing. The reason being I don't want to buy a product that ties me hand and feet an at the same time is asking me to pay extra (on top of the already high prices), and yet it can't even do disk mode.

After how Apple seem to have begun behaving, I am not willing to buy anything based on some hope or promise that there will be added any features to the items in the future. And with that, I am not buying anything from apple, unless they from the get-go are ready for use as I want them to be. They are simply crippling their products way, way too much.

The new touch, shipping with 1.1.3, cannot be jb'ed since 1.1.3 isn't broken. And that means you hve to trust Apple to deliver at some future date. You have to keep in mind, that all the benefits of the release of an SDK is pure speculation. Noone knows how crippled it will be, and how much tie-in it will have with iTunes, and how much (if anything) Apple will charge per "app". Judging from their recent behaviour, the no-disk mode, and so forth, though, I am willing to bet it will continue to be very crippled, and Apple will continue breaking (and bricking) any workaround that their iTouch/iPhone should have had from the get-go.

Now, you be the judge of whether running the risk and the trouble is worth it. :p

Edit: Looks like 1.1.3 has been jailbroke, but apparently not released:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=417834

I also got a touch and I was wondering if there was a risk in jailbrakeing that. Can it be bricked??

[Pukey]

Just curious, for those that are frustrated with the iPhone and iPT because they don't have enough features, are too limited or intentionally crippled. What exactly would you like them to be able to do? How is either product crippled? The first answer I think of is the ability to use third party apps is important. What other features are lacking? I ask honestly as I'm thinking of getting an iPT down the road when the 64GB comes out. I now have a 3rd gen iPod and compared to that, the iPT looks loaded with features. I know one feature I will miss (unless Apple fixes it) is disk mode. My 3rd gen iPod has this, but the iPT doesn't. That is a step backward and hardly innovative. That's the only crippling thing I see though so I feel I'm missing something since so many seem to say the iPhone and iPT are still lacking features.

[Tosser]

I also got a touch and I was wondering if there was a risk in jailbrakeing that. Can it be bricked??

I doubt anyone can give you an answer. The thing is, people have been reporting the Toch to have bricked, while others have said there's were bricked only to continue trying and getting them to work. However, noone can tell if apple will brick a jailbreaked Touch (or phone) in the next update. So, if you do jailbreak (afaik you can restore it to a clean apple-version) make sure to test whether the next update will break it or not, before applying it.

As always: Buyer beware. Also with regards to my post. I am by no means an expert. Not even close. I am not buying an iPhone, and so far the Touch isn't worth it either (although 32GB would be my sweet spot): Hence I do not own any of it, nor have I personally jailbroken any of the two.

[Joben David]

I bought my MBP online and received it in December last year. I found that the graphics card was not working and hence took it to an apple store where they confirmed my problem. I then called applecare who said they would replace the laptop. But I have not been able to send in my mac since I needed it for school work. Do you think if I waited to send it in until the updates I could benefit from it?

[Tosser]

Just curious, for those that are frustrated with the iPhone and iPT because they don't have enough features, are too limited or intentionally crippled. What exactly would you like them to be able to do?

I'll concentrate on the Touch, as that is the one I am interested in, but I would like apple to at least not actively cripple them more than necessary. I mean, I can (just) live with it not having a teeny, weeny FM-chip, but not try tying people n their hand and feet in order to sell you a tiny bit less crippled product two months later.

How is either product crippled? The first answer I think of is the ability to use third party apps is important. What other features are lacking?

Indeed that is an important one.

Flash is another one. Yes, one could parrot Steve Jobs and say that that had been left out to save on the battery, but really, that should be up to the user to choose.

Then there's the lack of supported security (WPA Enterprise for one).

They can build computers with, say, a danish layout, but there is no real keyboard layout for danish users. Our last three letters, æ, ø, å (yes, they are individual letters, not variations of others) are incorporated in a cumbersome way.

Or how about the fact that you weren't allowed (don't know if they allow that now??) to edit or even add calender appointments?

Or that several of the apps that were actually working on the iPhone, you had to wait for for a long time, and when it finally appeared for the Touch, you had to pay an extra 20 bucks.

Now, what else is crippled on that thing?
Oh, yes, I have been told (I'm only 95 percent sure of this), that you cannot use iSync to sync addresses and whatnot. No, no, you have to use iTunes.

Which brings me to:

Disk Mode!! That one is not allowed – apparently because they want your Touch to be locked into iTunes 100 percent. Who cares that many people actually use disk mode. Hell, they even had disk mode on their very first iPod. But this? Nope! You cannot use it with anything else, or for anything that is not 100 percent condoned by apple. And not only that, it has to go through iTunes.

This, to me, is beginning to look very much like what MS did with their IE-crap.


I ask honestly as I'm thinking of getting an iPT down the road when the 64GB comes out. I now have a 3rd gen iPod and compared to that, the iPT looks loaded with features. I know one feature I will miss (unless Apple fixes it) is disk mode. My 3rd gen iPod has this, but the iPT doesn't. That is a step backward and hardly innovative. That's the only crippling thing I see though so I feel I'm missing something since so many seem to say the iPhone and iPT are still lacking features.

I'm 100 percent with you. That "feature" I consider the most crippling.

With regards to the iPhone there are many things, but somewhere in these threads someone mentioned that it cannot do MMS, it cannot forward SMS's, but there are numerous other things –*most of which I cannot remember right now.

The funny thing is, when it comes to Denmark officially, it will most certainly be priced just a tad under the Bang-Olufsen Serenata, which, although it has an embarrasing amount of storage (4GB) is 3G and a very, very nice phone, with the features that is needed for a modern phone. Compare the specs of the iPhone to the Serenata.

[Pukey]

Tosser, thanks for your reply. This makes more sense now. I had forgotten about Flash (I'm assuming you mean Flash Player for web animations and such). This is important to me as well and another cause of frustration from a product that's supposed to have "the real internet".
The lack of supported security you mention, do you mean it is not secure when browsing the web or that it can easily get a virus or hacked? If so, I did not realize this.
These are definitely some things to think about before I get an iPT. One thing I know, I'm not paying over $400 for one even if it is 64GB. Even $400 is asking for a lot.

[Tosser]

Tosser, thanks for your reply. This makes more sense now. I had forgotten about Flash (I'm assuming you mean Flash Player for web animations and such).

No problem, and yup, I meant Flash Player – should have been more clear about that.

This is important to me as well and another cause of frustration from a product that's supposed to have "the real internet".
Me too, especially since a few of the websites (actually databases) I frequent and do searches in have flash elements (yes, I know, poor design, but I am but a user, not the programmer).

The lack of supported security you mention, do you mean it is not secure when browsing the web or that it can easily get a virus or hacked? If so, I did not realize this.

I meant not supporting it, so you cannot connect to wi-fi with that type of connection. Btw, I don't know if it's the same type they're talking about (I can't seem to find the threads right now), but people have been complaining about not being able to connect to the wifi at their college – apparently because the Touch doesn't support the standard at their place. Now, if it isn't WPA enterprise, there is yet another thing the touch doesn't do.

These are definitely some things to think about before I get an iPT. One thing I know, I'm not paying over $400 for one even if it is 64GB. Even $400 is asking for a lot.
Yup. Especially since it cannot do what a 10$ usb stick can because SJ & Co decided we, the users, don't need that.

[Tosser]

Found something, pukey.

The Touch cannot do WPA Enterprise as mentioned, but it doesn't do WPA2 Enterprise either. And until recently, it couldn't do VPN either.

Added: http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=4929565&postcount=57

[Pukey]

Sheesh, sounds like Apple really needs to get to work as far as making these things more usable. So, right now the iPT only works on WEP?

EDIT: Or not "get to work" but rather ease off and stop intentionally crippling these products.

[aswitcher]

Found something, pukey.

The Touch cannot do WPA Enterprise as mentioned, but it doesn't do WPA2 Enterprise either. And until recently, it couldn't do VPN either.

Added: http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=4929565&postcount=57

Mmm. Well my touch connects fine to my n/g wireless WPA encrypted network.

[Tosser]

Sheesh, sounds like Apple really needs to get to work as far as making these things more usable. So, right now the iPT only works on WEP?

And WPA Personal (which, btw, isn't that secure, so I'd advice against using that encryption for your home network).


EDIT: Or not "get to work" but rather ease off and stop intentionally crippling these products.
Yes, my beef exactly.

[Tosser]

Mmm. Well my touch connects fine to my n/g wireless WPA encrypted network.

Propably. But not WPA enterprise.

Added: oh, hahaha, sorry about these constant add-ons. But apparently it doesn't do 802.1x either! This is becoming a very long journey in shortcomings, imo.

[McGiord]

Propably. But not WPA enterprise.

How is this related to the rumored :apple: Event ?
________
mary jane (http://maryjanes.info/)

[Tosser]

How is this related to the rumored :apple: Event ?

Think updates for the iPhone and Touch and the SDK that everyone is awaiting.

Okay, I'll stop with the adding now, but apparently there aren't the place where they haven't criplled this thing or locked it very firmly:
You need to have a .mac account to sync your notes. Yes, you create them in mail.app (on your _leopard-based_ computer), and then you sync them to your Touch through the must-have .mac account. You didn't have to pay for .mac account to sync notes with the older iPods. But this one is special, I guess.

It amazes me so many of these crippled devices have been able to get across the counter. I am truly stunned, that there's yet another crippling under each and every stone turned. I wonder how long people will fall for this.

[Macmel]

Just ran across this by accident and thought I'd post it here to see what you guys thought. What if apple was to start to use green plug in their new products? Green Plug is a Universal Power Adapter that uses a chip in the power cord that is plugged into the green plug adapter and adjusts the voltage to the preset chip. This means one power cord for every product and no power brick. If you take a look at it from a futuristic approach Green Plug could make a power outlet that could eliminate the adapter and could eventually become a standard for homes. Green Plug not to mention is extremely environmentally friendly!
Here's a link to a demo of the product: Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cXDtLGbg4c)

Well, according to Apple's way of doing things, I would be very surprised to see something like that. I would love it, but it seems that Apple just goes the other way around, designing things specifically for each model. Not only the chargers, but look also at the external DVD unit they made for MBA that only works with MBA.

[3247]

Throw'em ALL away, including that one, and settle for mini USB already instead of coming up with yet another "standard." We're finally making some progress, inasmuch as my PDA phone, GPS, GPS for the PDA phone, and so forth already using the same power supply. One for at home, one for the car. Took only 12 years.GreenPlug® actually uses a plug derived from mini USB and will charge mini USB devices, too.
However, mini USB is not suitable for high-power devices such as notebook computers; USB only allows 0.5 A @ 5 V – that's 2.5 W. (Compare that to a 18.5 V × 4.6 A ≈ 85 W MagSafe adapter.)

[c073186]

New displays would be fabultastic.

Edit: And if Apple ever gets around to it... a REAL mouse. (But I know that isn't coming).

[AidenShaw]

GreenPlug® actually uses a plug derived from mini USB and will charge mini USB devices, too.
However, mini USB is not suitable for high-power devices such as notebook computers; USB only allows 0.5 A @ 5 V – that's 2.5 W. (Compare that to a 18.5 V × 4.6 A ≈ 85 W MagSafe adapter.)

Using the plug for a power connector is different from following the standard for a USB data/power connection.

Apple violates the power spec of the USB standard by supplying more than 500mA on the MacBook Air USB port (that's why the external MBA DVD will only work on the MBA).

The amount of power that you could put through the mini-USB connector would be determined electrically by the diameter of the wires used, and the construction of the contacts. It would certainly be able to send a lot more than 2.5 watts.

[3247]

The amount of power that you could put through the mini-USB connector would be determined electrically by the diameter of the wires used, and the construction of the contacts. It would certainly be able to send a lot more than 2.5 watts.But 85 W? Or 100 W? I doubt it. Furthermore, it would be dangerous – very dangerous – to have fully compatible plugs: If users use the wrong cable (e.g. cables designed for 1 A instead of 5 A), they might overheat and melt.
Then, if you want different voltages (and notebooks usually require 15 V to 19 V), you'll automatically be incompatible. So a better plug does not hurt.

[AidenShaw]

But 85 W? Or 100 W? I doubt it. Furthermore, it would be dangerous – very dangerous – to have fully compatible plugs: If users use the wrong cable (e.g. cables designed for 1 A instead of 5 A), they might overheat and melt.
Then, if you want different voltages (and notebooks usually require 15 V to 19 V), you'll automatically be incompatible. So a better plug does not hurt.

Good arguments - but the 500 mA USB spec wasn't ;) ...

[Mr. Funsocks]

So what are the odds of us seeing something besides the SDK at this event?

[AidenShaw]

So what are the odds of us seeing something besides the SDK at this event?

Absolutely certain.

You can be sure that a couple of high-profile applications will be demoed by partners who were given beta copies of the SDK.

[MarkW19]

I really hope this event isn't just SDK-related, new MBP please!

[Mr. Funsocks]

Absolutely certain.

You can be sure that a couple of high-profile applications will be demoed by partners who were given beta copies of the SDK.

Ok not really what meant. Let me clarify. What are the odds we'll see other products. Like the mbp or new acds?

[Kar98]

However, mini USB is not suitable for high-power devices such as notebook computers; USB only allows 0.5 A @ 5 V – that's 2.5 W. (Compare that to a 18.5 V × 4.6 A ≈ 85 W MagSafe adapter.)

I wasn't talking about notebooks, but "computer companion devices", a term I just made up ;) Basically those portable devices that occasionally need a computer for updates, syncing and stuff, but are autonomous most of the time. You know, iPods, PDAs, personal nav devices, cellphones, cameras, stuff like that.

[AidenShaw]

Ok not really what meant. Let me clarify. What are the odds we'll see other products. Like the mbp or new acds?

Very low...

At least, low probability of anything radically different. In other words, a Penryn upgrade for the existing MBP is a possibility but a new design higher end (I can't use the word "Pro", I'm sorry) laptop is unlikely.

[olternaut]

I really hope this event isn't just SDK-related, new MBP please!

I hope your note trying to down play the importance of the SDK's debut. The SDK is EXTREMELY important for Apple's future as it attempts to establish a permanent stronghold in the mobile device market.
The main thing will be the SDK for this Feb. event and I think that macbook pro just might be delayed til WWDC in the summer.
But, we will find out for sure in just a few days. :)

[McGiord]

Very low...

At least, low probability of anything radically different. In other words, a Penryn upgrade for the existing MBP is a possibility but a new design higher end (I can't use the word "Pro", I'm sorry) laptop is unlikely.


What is the reason for no pro?
________
Mercury Turnpike Cruiser history (http://www.ford-wiki.com/wiki/Mercury_Turnpike_Cruiser)

[Digital Skunk]

What is the reason for no pro?

I think AS just can't call the laptops that Apple puts out PRO laptops. And by many Apple user's standards they aren't. They are good laptops, decent for the average users and many pros, but they aren't top of the line by far, they make the cut at middle of the road to TOP of the middle of the road.

Other hardware manufacturers are selling machines with dual 2.8GHz and SLI graphics cards. They are fat as hell, but they are screamers. The big thing for me is the lack of dual HDDs and more pro ports like FW400. It'd be nice to have a 512MB gfx card and built-in 3G at least.

[zap2]

Then get a desktop, or one of those big PC laptops...the MacBook Pro is Apple's "Pro" laptop


But yea, I'm hoping its a very open SDK...but I'm expecting it to not be.

[Digital Skunk]

Then get a desktop, or one of those big PC laptops...the MacBook Pro is Apple's "Pro" laptop

I would but I won't be able to run MacOS X and my productivity would suffer even more. The MBP may be Apple's "PRO" laptop, but to the rest of the world and the high-end pros that need the juice it's about mid range.

But yea, I'm hoping its a very open SDK...but I'm expecting it to not be.

I want SDK, but if Apple does make an event solely for the release of an SDK then that, combined with their pulling out of NAB, shows me and I am sure a few others that they have lost their desire to fully take over the professional market, which was already bending toward them as a standard already.

Avid may have pulled out of NAB as well, but they are loosing market share to a cheaper, not as fully featured NLE because people don't want to pay $12,000 for software when they can get the same work done with $1300 software.

[Captn Crunch]

Since I hope to get a macbook with multi-touch trackpad....soon, I wish for the Apple Event to go something like this:

Jobs: "We have have some exciting news for you today..." (talks about the iphone/ipod touch upgrades to 16/32 GB...) "and today we want to present to you the SDK" (boom!)
Talk about the SDK for about 10-15 Minutes... after that maybe introduce some new games (also 3rd party) for ipod and Iphone to be downloaded through itunes.

After that he continues with a reference towards the upgraded Mac Pro and newly introduced graphic-card-compatibility towards the 2006-modell (please?)

And how best to use your mac pro than with the new cinema displays with integrated isight (boom!)
OR you can use it on your new mac mini(nano)! (boom!)

And finally "there is one more thing": new macbook pro with better graphic-card, new screen, multi-touch trackpad, and a new slim design (Boom!)
"oh, and before we forget...here's his little brother: the new macbook: new screen, multi-touch trackpad, slim new design in silver(see ipod classic for reference).

Within minutes of the presentation the stocks rise by 30%

This is how I want apple to start into 2008 ;-D

[gehfab]

But what about the update event...maybe today? :D

[AidenShaw]

I think AS just can't call the laptops that Apple puts out PRO laptops. And by many Apple user's standards they aren't.

Right, DS.

In Apple speak, "Pro" just means "costs more than a similar thing that doesn't have the word 'Pro' in its name".

If you'd ask a video professional, or an audio engineer, or a professional photographer what they'd like to see in a portable computer - you'd hear things like "quad core", "dual spindle", "expansion bay", "eSATA", "more ports", "multiple ExpressCard slots (one at least 54)"....

You won't hear "one inch or thinner", "under 6 lbs", ....

My mother-in-law bought an MBP. She has trouble reading mail sometimes (doesn't understand why folders exist), but she bought "the silver one because the plastic ones looked cheap".

"Pro", LOL.

[Digital Skunk]

If you'd ask a video professional, or an audio engineer, or a professional photographer what they'd like to see in a portable computer - you'd hear things like "quad core", "dual spindle", "expansion bay", "eSATA", "more ports", "multiple ExpressCard slots (one at least 54)"....

You won't hear "one inch or thinner", "under 6 lbs", ....

I am so glad that you understand this. It pains me to hear the consumers begging Apple for a thinner, cooler, toyish, "Like the other consumer products namely the iMac, MacBook, and Mac Mini, laptop. I don't want a thinner laptop, I want one that actually meets the competition. One that is solid, that has options for professionals outside of the wide screen, and one that can perform as a desktop replacement.

Can I get a 17" book with dual HDDs, and at least three forms of FW ports? Esata would be a very welcomed addition, but even I can live without that and get an eSATA express card. What I can't live without is a beefier gfx card and faster processor in the 17" model.

I would even take the micro DVI port from the AirBook to save space for at least one more FW port. And I pray that people stop begging Apple for more USB ports on the "PRO" laptops. USB sucks for anything other than thumb drives and iPods, and they kinds suck for iPods. Apple really should redesign the MacBook Pro and probably make it a tad bit thicker so I can get my two hard drives in the 17" model like every other PC counter part.

Weight shouldn't be an issue when someone is looking for a 17" book, and neither should battery life. I do hope that Apple does bring in a 14" widescreen MacBook just so users who can't get by with a 13.3" screen don't come over to the "PRO" side of the fence eyeballing the 15" and whining about how heavy it is or the lack of USB ports.

[Pukey]

Right, DS.

In Apple speak, "Pro" just means "costs more than a similar thing that doesn't have the word 'Pro' in its name".

If you'd ask a video professional, or an audio engineer, or a professional photographer what they'd like to see in a portable computer - you'd hear things like "quad core", "dual spindle", "expansion bay", "eSATA", "more ports", "multiple ExpressCard slots (one at least 54)"....

You won't hear "one inch or thinner", "under 6 lbs", ....

My mother-in-law bought an MBP. She has trouble reading mail sometimes (doesn't understand why folders exist), but she bought "the silver one because the plastic ones looked cheap".

"Pro", LOL.

I am so glad that you understand this. It pains me to hear the consumers begging Apple for a thinner, cooler, toyish, "Like the other consumer products namely the iMac, MacBook, and Mac Mini, laptop. I don't want a thinner laptop, I want one that actually meets the competition. One that is solid, that has options for professionals outside of the wide screen, and one that can perform as a desktop replacement.

Can I get a 17" book with dual HDDs, and at least three forms of FW ports? Esata would be a very welcomed addition, but even I can live without that and get an eSATA express card. What I can't live without is a beefier gfx card and faster processor in the 17" model.

I would even take the micro DVI port from the AirBook to save space for at least one more FW port. And I pray that people stop begging Apple for more USB ports on the "PRO" laptops. USB sucks for anything other than thumb drives and iPods, and they kinds suck for iPods. Apple really should redesign the MacBook Pro and probably make it a tad bit thicker so I can get my two hard drives in the 17" model like every other PC counter part.

Weight shouldn't be an issue when someone is looking for a 17" book, and neither should battery life. I do hope that Apple does bring in a 14" widescreen MacBook just so users who can't get by with a 13.3" screen don't come over to the "PRO" side of the fence eyeballing the 15" and whining about how heavy it is or the lack of USB ports.

Ditto.
By the way, AS, DS, what are you using for a laptop now or are you using a laptop?
Hopefully the next update will be a true pro line.

[chr1s60]

I don't know if this has been mentioned or not because there are too many pages to look through, but has anyone thought about the possibility that Apple may introduce a lineup of iPhone with colors? The colors are a big part of the iPod line and I am kind of surprised it hasn't been brought to iPhone yet. Just a possibility of something that could be announced at the event showing off the SDK. It would work as the "one more thing" portion of a presentation.

[AidenShaw]

Ditto.
By the way, AS, DS, what are you using for a laptop now or are you using a laptop?

Dell Latitude D620, 2.33 GHz Merom, 4 GiB RAM, Vista+XP+Linux, 2x320 GB hard drive (one in the bay, swappable with DVD or battery), WiFi+Bluetooth+3G (EV-DO) builtin,....

[csalm87]

New displays would be fabultastic.

Edit: And if Apple ever gets around to it... a REAL mouse. (But I know that isn't coming).

lol.. i totally agree with you. I hope Apple releases a real mouse. In fact, that's the ONLY Apple thing I don't use. I can't stand their mice.

[Pukey]

Dell Latitude D620, 2.33 GHz Merom, 4 GiB RAM, Vista+XP+Linux, 2x320 GB hard drive (one in the bay, swappable with DVD or battery), WiFi+Bluetooth+3G (EV-DO) builtin,....

Cool!
Thanks AS. So you can switch between Vista, XP and Linux on the same laptop? That's pretty handy. A swappable HD would be nice too. By the way, I've heard you can put in 2x4GB RAM modules in the MBP and supposedly have 8GB RAM. The only issue is having 64-bit software that could actually use it. Ever heard of anything like this?

[Kar98]

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6899/22211943880bbf9db3edowgjg8.jpg

[Pukey]

Hahaha! The MBA is already ridiculous enough as it is, no need to make it more so!

[AidenShaw]

Cool!
Thanks AS. So you can switch between Vista, XP and Linux on the same laptop?

Multi-boot covers much more than two systems - I also have a Vista x64 and Linux x64 on one of the several swappable HDs.

By the way, I've heard you can put in 2x4GB RAM modules in the MBP and supposedly have 8GB RAM. The only issue is having 64-bit software that could actually use it. Ever heard of anything like this?

Intel says 4 GiB max (and it's confirmed if you download the PDF specs for the northbridge).

Santa Rosa supports 36-bit addressing for the IO space, so that you can use the whole 4 GiB (vs. the 3.25 GiB that you get with the older chipsets).

http://compare.intel.com/pcc/showchart.aspx?mmID=28117,28116,22210&familyID=7&culture=en-US

[Pukey]

Multi-boot covers much more than two systems - I also have a Vista x64 and Linux x64 on one of the several swappable HDs.



Intel says 4 GiB max (and it's confirmed if you download the PDF specs for the northbridge).

Santa Rosa supports 36-bit addressing for the IO space, so that you can use the whole 4 GiB (vs. the 3.25 GiB that you get with the older chipsets).

http://compare.intel.com/pcc/showchart.aspx?mmID=28117,28116,22210&familyID=7&culture=en-US

Ah! Great, thanks AS! This is very helpful.

[Pukey]

By the way Aiden, how did you find this part of the Intel site? How did you know it was Santa Rosa that was being covered in those chipsets?

[ill0gical0ne]

I think it will be Apples announcement of Blu-ray drives. First starting with the Mac Pros; which would suck, as I just bought one of the early 2008 models.

Seriously though, working in IT for a company with people that are demanding the iPhone (but it's just not ready yet), I'm hoping for the SDK and Exchange support.

[seantyas]

I don't know if this has been mentioned or not because there are too many pages to look through, but has anyone thought about the possibility that Apple may introduce a lineup of iPhone with colors? The colors are a big part of the iPod line and I am kind of surprised it hasn't been brought to iPhone yet. Just a possibility of something that could be announced at the event showing off the SDK. It would work as the "one more thing" portion of a presentation.

oh god though i think its possible, i reaaallyy hope u r wrong. what a waste of shelfspace. people really do identify themselves with the make, model, and color of their phone tho, so who knows

[AidenShaw]

By the way Aiden, how did you find this part of the Intel site? How did you know it was Santa Rosa that was being covered in those chipsets?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Rosa_platform#Santa_Rosa_platform_.282007.29

The "965" chipset is part of the Santa Rosa platform - I just remembered that from when the "Crestline" chip was given a product number.

Wikipedia, though, has pretty good explanations of most of the Intel codenames and product lines.

[AngryLeprechaun]

Since I hope to get a macbook with multi-touch trackpad....soon, I wish for the Apple Event to go something like this:

Jobs: "We have have some exciting news for you today..." (talks about the iphone/ipod touch upgrades to 16/32 GB...) "and today we want to present to you the SDK" (boom!)
Talk about the SDK for about 10-15 Minutes... after that maybe introduce some new games (also 3rd party) for ipod and Iphone to be downloaded through itunes.

After that he continues with a reference towards the upgraded Mac Pro and newly introduced graphic-card-compatibility towards the 2006-modell (please?)

And how best to use your mac pro than with the new cinema displays with integrated isight (boom!)
OR you can use it on your new mac mini(nano)! (boom!)

And finally "there is one more thing": new macbook pro with better graphic-card, new screen, multi-touch trackpad, and a new slim design (Boom!)
"oh, and before we forget...here's his little brother: the new macbook: new screen, multi-touch trackpad, slim new design in silver(see ipod classic for reference).

Within minutes of the presentation the stocks rise by 30%

This is how I want apple to start into 2008 ;-D

Jobs: "Oh and just one final thing. I'm giving everyone in this room a BJ before they leave. Then I'm going to cook you dinner and we'll watch a movie on Apple TV Take 2."

I think him saying that is just as likely as 90% of the things you just mentioned. :rolleyes:

[Pukey]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Rosa_platform#Santa_Rosa_platform_.282007.29

The "965" chipset is part of the Santa Rosa platform - I just remembered that from when the "Crestline" chip was given a product number.

Wikipedia, though, has pretty good explanations of most of the Intel codenames and product lines.

Thanks AidenShaw!

[mactastic1971]

Hahaha! The MBA is already ridiculous enough as it is, no need to make it more so!

I'm waiting on the Macbook AirBiscuit...

[VicMacs]

that thing will land a plane

[Mr Maui]

http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/02/13/starbucks-nationwide-to-close-for-emergency-re-training-feb-26/

Perhaps a bit off topic at present, but in line with original line of article? Coincidence? You decide.

I read that Apple would be offering free WiFi access to all iPod touch and iPhone users at all Starbucks and Mac users with puchase cards.

Has Starbucks EVER closed all of its stores at the same time for "training" or "re-training"? And for just 3 hours. And on the same day as an Apple Special Event?

Maybe coincidence. Maybe not. :rolleyes:

[myawn]

This thread starts off with a rumor of a potential event, based on the fact that an AV company may have been hired to perhaps do something related to the rumored event . . .

And we've got lots of speculation about what will happen at the event . . .

But has it been confirmed that there even IS an event? I mean, at some point, Apple has to invite someone. And I suspect that if you're trying to get press from NYT, WSJ, etc, that might not all be within a short drive of Cupertino, then it seems like those invitations ought to have surfaced by now.

Has anyone reported seeing an actual invitation to this event, or other confirmation that it's actually happening? (Sorry if I've missed it, I haven't read every post in the thread but I've at least been sampling it every day).

[Mr Maui]

This thread starts off with a rumor of a potential event, based on the fact that an AV company may have been hired to perhaps do something related to the rumored event . . .

And we've got lots of speculation about what will happen at the event . . .

But has it been confirmed that there even IS an event? I mean, at some point, Apple has to invite someone. And I suspect that if you're trying to get press from NYT, WSJ, etc, that might not all be within a short drive of Cupertino, then it seems like those invitations ought to have surfaced by now.

Has anyone reported seeing an actual invitation to this event, or other confirmation that it's actually happening? (Sorry if I've missed it, I haven't read every post in the thread but I've at least been sampling it every day).

Numerous sources have cited the event already ... confirmed? ... Can't say for certain, but it appears something is happening that day.

[John Purple]

Numerous sources have cited the event already ... confirmed? ... Can't say for certain, but it appears something is happening that day.

All sources quoting MR ? :p

[Mr Maui]

Read the original post by arn, I believe he cited several sources chiming in on this "potential" event.

Update: Just checked original post and didn't see the source quote, but I believe arn cited several sources in one of these threads concerning the event. If I am mistaken ... forgive my error arn ... you do a great job.

[DESTOROYER]

In the past, Apple has sent invites out about a week before the event. As far as what is going to be announced, I think quite a bit, both iPhone SDK and revisions for the MBP line. I just don't think a lot of stuff was ready for Macworld, but who knows.....

[GregorBehr]

http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/02/13/starbucks-nationwide-to-close-for-emergency-re-training-feb-26/

Perhaps a bit off topic at present, but in line with original line of article? Coincidence? You decide.

I read that Apple would be offering free WiFi access to all iPod touch and iPhone users at all Starbucks and Mac users with puchase cards.

Has Starbucks EVER closed all of its stores at the same time for "training" or "re-training"? And for just 3 hours. And on the same day as an Apple Special Event?

Maybe coincidence. Maybe not. :rolleyes:

Maybe or maybe not.. but thank god! For $3 bucks for a coffee drink, it would be nice if it was made decently!

[McGiord]

Any solid evidence about this rumored event?
The only evidence we have so far is that :apple: announced that the SDK will be available/released for the end of Feb, I don't remember the right words.

Anyway, something similar was done for Leopard, and te it was delayed to November 2007, right?

Who knows...:confused:
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[blackbelt]

Any solid evidence about this rumored event?
The only evidence we have so far is that :apple: announced that the SDK will be available/released for the end of Feb, I don't remember the right words.

Anyway, something similar was done for Leopard, and te it was delayed to November 2007, right?

Who knows...:confused:

It is amazing how fast a rumor can go... It is not fact, but people are treating it like it was. But it is a fact that Jobs said that the iPhone/ iPod Touch SDK would be out by the end of feb., and the 26th is the last Tuesday that it would be possible. We will probably hear something from apple (like an invitation) either tomorrow or wed..

[GooglEyes]

Starbucks closed 2-26-08 ... Coincidence?http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/02/13/starbucks-nationwide-to-close-for-emergency-re-training-feb-26/

Perhaps a bit off topic at present, but in line with original line of article? Coincidence? You decide.

I read that Apple would be offering free WiFi access to all iPod touch and iPhone users at all Starbucks and Mac users with puchase cards.

Has Starbucks EVER closed all of its stores at the same time for "training" or "re-training"? And for just 3 hours. And on the same day as an Apple Special Event?

Maybe coincidence. Maybe not. :rolleyes:

I for one really doubt that that is merely a coincidence. Why would they shut down just to learn to make better coffee? That would sure draw a lot of negative attention. No, if this event is about the SDK and new 3rd party apps (witch I believe it is), it would be the perfect time to show off that cool Starbucks ordering software mentioned earlier in this article: http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2008/01/10/starbucks-iphone-ordering-concept-design/

If that's the case, I think it would be appropriate to shut down all Starbucks for a bit of training on the new system (plus free WiFi Q&A).

Mmmmm... iCoffee... iThirsty :p

[aznkid25]

Would the release of the SDK be a good time for Apple to release Itunes 8, or at least an update to itunes to support it?

[t0mat0]

I for one really doubt that that is merely a coincidence. Why would they shut down just to learn to make better coffee? That would sure draw a lot of negative attention. No, if this event is about the SDK and new 3rd party apps (witch I believe it is), it would be the perfect time to show off that cool Starbucks ordering software mentioned earlier in this article: http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2008/01/10/starbucks-iphone-ordering-concept-design/

If that's the case, I think it would be appropriate to shut down all Starbucks for a bit of training on the new system (plus free WiFi Q&A).

Mmmmm... iCoffee... iThirsty :p

So Starbucks swaps company to the one that's helping Apple do iPhone in America. I'd imagine it's training to staff up to date on this come release date.

There would be early confirmations of this at Starbucks, as there would be outages, engineers on site etc prior to this at each store in all likelihood.

[Pukey]

Just to add some more fuel to the fire...

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/02/19/apple_taps_linkin_park_to_perform_at_secret_nyc_event.html

[dlewisdm]

http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/02/13/starbucks-nationwide-to-close-for-emergency-re-training-feb-26/

Perhaps a bit off topic at present, but in line with original line of article? Coincidence? You decide.

I read that Apple would be offering free WiFi access to all iPod touch and iPhone users at all Starbucks and Mac users with puchase cards.

Has Starbucks EVER closed all of its stores at the same time for "training" or "re-training"? And for just 3 hours. And on the same day as an Apple Special Event?

Maybe coincidence. Maybe not. :rolleyes:

To clarify, it's not Apple that has the agreement with Starbucks...it's AT&T...who just happens to be the exclusive carrier of the iPhone in the U.S. at the moment. As far as this falling on the 26th, I'm going to have to say that it is pure coincidence. AT&T and Starbucks entered into the agreement to increase brand loyalty and the free wifi is available to anyone who has a Starbucks card regardless of whether or not they are using an Apple product. Plus, if this were some sort of "launch" event, I doubt they would be closing stores in order to show off the new application. The training would have been done earlier and probably not announced. This is simply another step towards the new Starbucks management trying to gain back some of the market share they have lost over the years as people realize that you can get better coffee from nicer people elsewhere.

[Pukey]

http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/02/13/starbucks-nationwide-to-close-for-emergency-re-training-feb-26/

Perhaps a bit off topic at present, but in line with original line of article? Coincidence? You decide.

I read that Apple would be offering free WiFi access to all iPod touch and iPhone users at all Starbucks and Mac users with puchase cards.

Has Starbucks EVER closed all of its stores at the same time for "training" or "re-training"? And for just 3 hours. And on the same day as an Apple Special Event?

Maybe coincidence. Maybe not. :rolleyes:

Hahaa! That is an interesting coincidence...
I've never heard of Starbucks closing during normal business hours for "training". As far as learning to make better coffee...I laugh.
The article says they're closing at 5:30, but the Apple event would no doubt be earlier I would think?

[Pukey]

To clarify, it's not Apple that has the agreement with Starbucks...it's AT&T...who just happens to be the exclusive carrier of the iPhone in the U.S. at the moment. As far as this falling on the 26th, I'm going to have to say that it is pure coincidence. AT&T and Starbucks entered into the agreement to increase brand loyalty and the free wifi is available to anyone who has a Starbucks card regardless of whether or not they are using an Apple product.

Ahh...
Thanks for the clarification. Did not realize this.

[sal]

i don't think they'll be shipping a 3g iphone so soon after the 16gb phone came out. If anything, they'll probably just announce it and it won't be shipped for a few months.

I am excited by the event, I am sure there will be a lot of great apps soon.

[skorpien]

Have invitations been sent out? Would anybody from these forums actually know if they have? I can't imagine Apple having an event and not inviting anybody...

[OMAN9520]

I'm going to be the hated one and say it, it looks like this rumored 26th event is nothing more than a rumor. Its to late to send out invited now.

[kster]

I'm going to be the hated one and say it, it looks like this rumored 26th event is nothing more than a rumor. Its to late to send out invited now.

agreed. :(

[elppa]

Unless there is an NDA on the back preventing anyone with an invite from blabbing! Just a thought… :D

Being realistic I think you are probably right nhioi.

The latest they have to launch the SDK is next Friday if they are still sticking to the deadline, but that's not to say they can't have a public event in early March, if at all.