Just got robbed/mugged from Craigslist for a Macbook Pro

[apple90]

Hi guys. I just came home from trying to sell my macbook pro on craigslist (17 incher)

But then 3 guys jumped out and stole my laptop. I have a BIG bruise on my eye (swollen) and a bump on my head.

Wife is all worried right now and I'm kinda ashamed that this happened to me.

Will post later with details

[CRAZYBUBBA]

Report it to the police. most people don't report. that's problem #1.

Don't be ashamed they clearly did some work on casing you and using the prospective buyer to lure you out in the open.

[TodVader]

If you think they're the ones that contacted you online, do you have any way to trace them? I don't know much about craigs list, I'm canadian. I'm sorry this happened to you, what has the world come to. Definitely report to the police ASAP.

[lekun]

Hi guys. I just came home from trying to sell my macbook pro on craigslist (17 incher)

But then 3 guys jumped out and stole my laptop. I have a BIG bruise on my eye (swollen) and a bump on my head.

Wife is all worried right now and I'm kinda ashamed that this happened to me.

Will post later with details


Not to be a jerk, but who gets robbed and first thinks: I better post on Macrumors?

[Hankster]

Why are you ashamed? You got robbed, that's a crime. If people are ashamed instead of being proactive there would be more crime.

Report it to the police ASAP and hope they can find the person/people. There's never a time in life to be ashamed. Stick your head up high and fight.

[heatmiser]

Yikes. Well, as others have said, report it. And no, being mugged is never something to be ashamed of.

In the future, though, remember the safety tips for these kinds of things:

* meet in public places.

* do it in the daytime.

* bring a friend.

* have a well-defined entrance/exit route.

If you do these, this kind of stuff is much less likely to happen. It sounds like they knew you were carrying the computer, knew you'd be alone, knew it was nighttime, and knew your return route.

[jsw]

Not to be a jerk, but who gets robbed and first thinks: I better post on Macrumors?Sometimes, you just need to calm down and collect your thoughts, and a semi-braindead thing like posting here helps.

apple90: best of luck. That's terrible.

[Mr.PS]

Sounds pretty bad, but it's also kinda of hard to believe. How did you setup a person to person meet without first contacting the person? You should've at least met in a well known spot, instead of somewhere where that might've happened. Report it to the police!

[CRAZYBUBBA]

The police can use the part if the emails pictured below... I don't know what they do but it's a tracer,

[devilot]

In the future, though, remember the safety tips for these kinds of things:

* meet in public places.

* do it in the daytime.

* bring a friend.

* have a well-defined entrance/exit route. The local news had a story on CL robberies in the fall. Several reported incidences were all done during broad daylight, seller would have 1-3 other people w/ them, and in very public places-- Target.

So um, yeah, if someone is determined to be a harmful jerk, they'll go through with it.

OP, I'm so sorry. :( That's awful and I hope that somehow you can get some compensation for it.

[AJ Muni]

Thats why I always carry my piece..

[apple90]

Thanks guys for the overwhelming support.

The main reason why I'm so ashamed is because of the fact that my wife saw my bruised up swollen black eye and the bump on my head.

I first contacted the buyer through craigslist and they called me (now that I look, their number was private) but since my home number is private, I always pick up private numbers no matter what. Well they said they would meet me up since they were a local face to face at a park near my house. I was in the parking lot (like around 5:30PMish here in california) and then the guys just jumped out and all of a sudden, all I feel is the concrete hitting my head and me being knocked out from the hit on my head.
I never really got the chance to see their faces but I know they were hiding in the bushes and had this all planned out.

Also, they ran to my car (96 camry toyota) and stole my iPod touch (16GB) with the casette adapter that lets me play my music. I'm really upset right now that I lost a $3,000 laptop that I saved up two years for. Can't really understand why this would happen to me and why someone would be doing this.

I'm just glad that you guys offered me for being a crutch for my broken legs. I just wish that this thread will provide an example of what might happen if they were to ever deal on craigslist.

[heatmiser]

The local news had a story on CL robberies in the fall. Several reported incidences were all done during broad daylight, seller would have 1-3 other people w/ them, and in very public places-- Target.

So um, yeah, if someone is determined to be a harmful jerk, they'll go through with it.


Well, sure. That doesn't mean we shouldn't mention some basic safety stuff, though. And that's not to say the OP didn't do any of this, but just because you can get mugged wherever you are doesn't mean there's no point in avoiding dark alleys.

Anyway, I hope the OP comes back to tell us more.

[CRAZYBUBBA]

Thanks guys for the overwhelming support.
<snip>

Please make sure to report the robbery. That way when these people get caught they'll know to give the computer/touch to you.

Also, the more people that report, the better. Make sure to put an ad out on your local craigslist regarding this and tell the people to also contact the police (not you).

Best of luck.

[benlee]

This is really scary. Why can't people get a job and buy things that they want instead of making the world a terrible place to live over a laptop.

I'm trying to sell some things on craigslist right now. Although they are not very expensive, it makes me nervous. I think the best thing that can come out of this thread is people that have experience with CL to post some pointers on how to avoid this type of thing.

Maybe meet at a police station.

[apple90]

Thanks again to everyone to posted in this thread.

I have contacted the local police and they are on their way here right now.

Will post back with more details.

[heatmiser]

I don't know. I bet if they were white the poster wouldn't have said 3 white guys....I'm not saying he is a racist though, just a sociological observation.

Anyways, This is really scary. Why can't people get a job and buy things that they want instead of making the world a terrible place to live over a laptop.

I'm trying to sell some things on craigslist right now. Although they are not very expensive, it makes me nervous. I think the best thing that can come out of this thread is people that have experience with CL to post some pointers on how to avoid this type of thing.

Maybe meet at a police station.

...and this is exactly why I posted a list of things people could keep in mind when doing CG listings. Here they are again:

* meet in public places.

* do it in the daytime.

* bring a friend.

* have a well-defined entrance/exit route.

Your goal is basically to surround yourself with people--both strangers and friends--and to provide yourself with a means of escape should something go wrong. You want to be somewhere where yelling for help would, at the very least, have ten heads turned your way. You want to have at least one person (the more the better) come with you for the entire length of the trip. And if at all possible, you want a car (quick transportation) and you want it done in the daytime.

Hope this helps.

When I sold my iBook on CG, I insisted on meeting in a Starbucks. People looked at me weirdly once the guy arrived and started haggling, but I didn't care; it was much safer than meeting in some random alley or lot. Your objective is to have plenty of witnesses if you can't bring any of your own.

[harrymohan]

oh my god!!:eek::eek: That day ppl were advocating of Craiglist over ebay!! I think ebay is much more safer than craiglist!!

P.S-: My sympathies are with you Apple90. Heard a lot of mugging stories from LA and NYC!!

[djinn]

That why you carry a gun, shoot the punks. Population control!

[McGiord]

oh my god!!:eek::eek: That day ppl were advocating of Craiglist over ebay!! I think ebay is much more safer than craiglist!!

P.S-: My sympathies are with you Apple90. Heard a lot of mugging stories from LA and NYC!!

Thieves are all over, either eBay or Craigslist...

It's very sad what happen to apple90, try to be more careful.

Good people is out there also, don't loose the faith in good people.

[MacBookJoePro]

...and this is exactly why I posted a list of things people could keep in mind when doing CG listings. Here they are again:

* meet in public places.

* do it in the daytime.

* bring a friend.

* have a well-defined entrance/exit route.

Your goal is basically to surround yourself with people--both strangers and friends--and to provide yourself with a means of escape should something go wrong. You want to be somewhere where yelling for help would, at the very least, have ten heads turned your way. You want to have at least one person (the more the better) come with you for the entire length of the trip. And if at all possible, you want a car (quick transportation) and you want it done in the daytime.

Hope this helps.

When I sold my iBook on CG, I insisted on meeting in a Starbucks. People looked at me weirdly once the guy arrived and started haggling, but I didn't care; it was much safer than meeting in some random alley or lot. Your objective is to have plenty of witnesses if you can't bring any of your own.

That is a very good tip. Meeting in very public places and where you might think that yelling help will at least make people notice something bad is happening. I had just recently sold my MBP at a local starbucks. Something that I would recommend is ask the person what he/she is wearing then arriving a little later than planned (3-5 mins later) that way you can see and scope out the person. If the buyer asks what your wearing just tell him something generic like.. t-shirt and jeans.. then say something smart like.. i'm the only one with the (whatever item it is) i'm carrying. lol. That way you can scope out your "buyer" and their surroundings. Maybe i'm just been watching too much 24 and PrisonBreak but I guess you can never be too careful.

I'm terrible sorry about what happened to you. Giving the police those email's will definitely help them trace it back to the source. I'm sure those craiglists ***holes aren't smart and emailed from their house.

-JoE

[biturbomunkie]

that sucks dude. did that happen in torrance?

[Watabou]

That is a very good tip. Meeting in very public places and where you might think that yelling help will at least make people notice something bad is happening. I had just recently sold my MBP at a local starbucks. Something that I would recommend is ask the person what he/she is wearing then arriving a little later than planned (3-5 mins later) that way you can see and scope out the person. If the buyer asks what your wearing just tell him something generic like.. t-shirt and jeans.. then say something smart like.. i'm the only one with the (whatever item it is) i'm carrying. lol. That way you can scope out your "buyer" and their surroundings. Maybe i'm just been watching too much 24 and PrisonBreak but I guess you can never be too careful.

I'm terrible sorry about what happened to you. Giving the police those email's will definitely help them trace it back to the source. I'm sure those craiglists ***holes aren't smart and emailed from their house.

-JoE

Yeah good tip.

This is very sad indeed. Hope you can find out those crooks. :mad:

[mashoutposse]

Sorry to hear about this :(

I try to complete large CL transactions at the bank during business hours -- if I'm a buyer, I withdraw the cash on the spot. If I'm a seller, I deposit the funds immediately to make sure I'm not getting counterfeit currency.

If I can't set up a meeting at the bank, then 1) I make sure that I have an actual phone number, and 2) I listen to the person carefully to ensure he/she is reputable. We then complete the transaction in a Starbucks or similar public venue.

[akm3]

I would be shaken and pissed off too! I'm a very trusting person and would be an easy target for this kind of stuff.

Don't feel ashamed. It is unlikely you will get any compensation, but try all the proper channels via police etc.

[rskang]

Craig's list is a new breeding ground for criminals these days and here is a true story of Minneapolis MN.......
A girl went to someones home for a baby sitter job Advertised on Craig's list only to be murdered by the same guy.
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/FAKE_CRAIGSLIST_AD_MURDER/crime/63418

The above incident is very unfortunate and so is what happened to you but look on the bright side you are ALIVE and that is worth more than a $3000 notebook. Notebook is replaceable you are not..... So I hope the muggers get caught and you get your things back.

I have sold stuff on CL and this is what I do... I meet them at local Star bucks or a coffee shop in a mall but never at home or in the parking lots.

[benlee]

Sorry to hear about this :(

I try to complete large CL transactions at the bank during business hours -- if I'm a buyer, I withdraw the cash on the spot. If I'm a seller, I deposit the funds immediately to make sure I'm not getting counterfeit currency.

If I can't set up a meeting at the bank, then 1) I make sure that I have an actual phone number, and 2) I listen to the person carefully to ensure he/she is reputable. We then complete the transaction in a Starbucks or similar public venue.

The bank idea is a great idea.
Today I got an email back from a person on craigslist asking if my item was the same that was on ebay and provided a link to click on for the ebay auction. After clicking the link I was told it was a private listing and needed my username and password. I did not provide it because I found it a little strange and thought it was a scam.

I also got an email asking for my phone number. I promptly emailed the guy back asking him if he was interested and if he minded conversing online until I knew he was legit. He eventually gave me his number and I called him.

Ebay and CL are great places to buy/sell but I'm always very cautious.

[Andrew D.]

Yeah, I guess when your dealing with strangers you really have to feel like your dealing with "the enemy", defensive walls and protocols and everything must be kept in mind. Good luck bud, I hope everything turns out ok, God Bless!

[devilot]

I try to complete large CL transactions at the bank during business hours -- if I'm a buyer, I withdraw the cash on the spot. If I'm a seller, I deposit the funds immediately to make sure I'm not getting counterfeit currency. Wow. That's pretty genius. :o

Even if, despite all precautions, something goes wrong-- there's likely to be video footage in your favor.

Thanks. :)

[Xfujinon]

that supremely sucks very bad. As much as I don't advocate carrying guns, or using them against people, getting jumped over a laptop you saved for years to afford is a good candidate. The state of affairs in our planet is truly lousy when people are willing to compromise another's life for the sake of material gains.

Feel bad for you.

[Stridder44]

If I ever have to sell anything via Craigslist I'd bring 6 friends and have us meet in a police station.

Sorry to hear about this man. Hope they get caught. Don't worry, karma will pay them a visit. Maybe the laptop will burn their house down or something. mashoutposse, that's also a very good idea.

[Music_Producer]

I am always wary of meeting someone for a sale. I prefer ebay, always have. If you're selling small items like a $100 speaker, etc.. then CL should be ok.. but the minute you list high-value items, you know spotty people are going to notice and try to target you.

To the OP, thank goodness you didn't get killed (can happen, by accident) or seriously wounded, or worse.. kidnapped. My postal carrier met someone on CL, she was trying to sell her jeep. She told me that someone offered to buy it from her and give her a cashier's check. She was just going to meet him alone, give the car and take the check :rolleyes:

Told her to do the transaction at a bank instead. The buyer never showed up when she told him this.

Seriously, people.. take a few precautions to avoid being placed into such situations.

To someone who posted "That's why I always carry mine" Yeah? What are you going to do with your gun? There were 3 people.. so you pull yours out.. maybe, shoot one.. what if the other two pulled theirs out and shot you? Over a notebook?

Not worth it imo.

[KingYaba]

If I ever have to sell anything via Craigslist I'd bring 6 friends and have us meet in a police station.

I usually meet inside Bank of America. A police station is a good idea, though.

[apple90]

Thank you guys so much. ARGH... I just finished talking to the police telling them everything I posted here and they just left the house 5 minutes ago.
I just wish that I could be more careful next time.

But on the side note, I am really upset. I have to save up for another whole two years for another laptop. Another 2 whole years. Just can't believe it.

[thechidz]

oh my god!!:eek::eek: That day ppl were advocating of Craiglist over ebay!! I think ebay is much more safer than craiglist!!

P.S-: My sympathies are with you Apple90. Heard a lot of mugging stories from LA and NYC!!

I always have people come to my security controlled building where they have to sing in. Never had a problem...

[Virgil-TB2]

oh my god!!:eek::eek: That day ppl were advocating of Craiglist over ebay!! I think ebay is much more safer than craiglist!!...I think the choice between eBay and Craig's List seems to be only whether you are robbed at a distance, or up close and personal.

[Music_Producer]

I think the choice between eBay and Craig's List seems to be only whether you are robbed at a distance, or up close and personal.

If you use a credit card to pay for items, then there is a very slim chance of being robbed. I'd rather be robbed at a distance though :eek:

[apple90]

After today experiencing my first robbery, I would NEVER EVER want to get robbed either

* locally
*personally
*privately
*from a distant
*e-robbery

[Ryuukumori]

Hey, I'm truly sorry about what happened... I'll tell you an experience I had on Craigslist not too long ago. Not as worse, but cautious:

Before I was interested in Mac computers, I was in a hype of custom- built desktop PCs. They were cheap, affordable, and simply awesome. I found one in November that was very cheap: a 2.6 GHZ Core 2 Duo Intel Processor, 2GB RAM, Vista Ultimate (Yes, I know, Vista sucks as of now... that's why I like OS X!), NVidia GeForce 8600 GT, and 320 GB 7200 RPM HD)- all for $200. NO monitor, just the tower. I said, "Awesome! Good deal!"

So I emailed the guy, and never heard from him for a week, I told myself, "Alright, this thing's sold... I'll look for some different ones." But within the same day I was considering moving on, I get an email from the guy, saying he still had it. I was shocked, so gave him a call right away with the phone number attached to his email. Ironically, he said he already sold it. Wired, huh? So I ask him why he sold it right away, and if he was going to make any new models in the near future. He told me he would update me if anything came up.

So a week or so later, I got a call from the guy, saying his friend who supposedly bought it didn't like Vista and was willing to give it back. I asked if I could get a time and date to meet the guy (with my brother, of course) and buy the comp. What was really weird was the guy told me he didn't have time to get it back, so his friend would sell it to me. I agreed and asked for his phone number, and he told me right away he would have him call me, with no connection on my end.

2 days later, I got a call from a Blocked ID. Yeah, that's right, a Blocked ID. Curiously, I picked it up, and asked who it was. It was his friend. I asked if he had the comp, and he did. So I asked when the best time to check it out was, and he said some Wednesday I had no time for. I asked for another possible time the following week. I had no connection with this guy's friend, by email or phone, and called the original comp owner to question the situation. It was vague and suspicious. I decided to give up. That was when 2 weeks later, he finally called me back asking if I still wanted it, and with no second to spare, I denied the offer, and as such a good deal it seemed, was too good to be true. Now, I'm glad to look to a new road- at Apple! XD

I know your situation is very shocking, and I am deeply sorry. I wish you the best of luck with any evidence connecting to the robbery and hopes of getting it back. Keep us updated.

[nhcowboy1]

Apple - What about insurance? Homeowner's, renter's, or even car insurance? I know you have to have liability coverage in California, but if you have comprehensive coverage also, that should cover things stolen from your car.

I also just looked up the state's compensation program for victims of crime, but that covers primarily medical expenses. It does NOT cover expenses for stolen property, unfortunately. However, the perpetrators would ordinarily be ordered to reimburse you if they are apprehended, convicted and sentenced (and reimbursement would usually be part of any plea bargain, as well) - so stay on top of what's going on with the police investigation. In order for the thieves to be apprehended, someone from the white collar/computer crimes division of the local police department is going to have to get involved. Make phone calls, stay after them, and make sure that happens.

You should notify the administrators at craigslist also. It's possible they keep statistics on thinsg like this. If it turns out that there have been a lot of robberies like this in your county, that might provide additional impetus for the police to investigate it more aggressively.

Okay, sorry, I know I'm going on here. It's certainly a lot easier for me to say all this than for you to do it all. You already had to live through it . . . you don't want to devote your life to it as well.

Best of luck to you.

[katorga]

Sorry about the injuries, but you may have sold the laptop! Contact the police, get a report number, call your insurance company, and file a claim. You may get more than you think.

[powermac_daddy]

That why you carry a gun, shoot the punks. Population control!

HAHAHAHAH.......yeah. AK... their ass

[powermac_daddy]

Thanks guys for the overwhelming support.

The main reason why I'm so ashamed is because of the fact that my wife saw my bruised up swollen black eye and the bump on my head.

I first contacted the buyer through craigslist and they called me (now that I look, their number was private) but since my home number is private, I always pick up private numbers no matter what. Well they said they would meet me up since they were a local face to face at a park near my house. I was in the parking lot (like around 5:30PMish here in california) and then the guys just jumped out and all of a sudden, all I feel is the concrete hitting my head and me being knocked out from the hit on my head.
I never really got the chance to see their faces but I know they were hiding in the bushes and had this all planned out.

Also, they ran to my car (96 camry toyota) and stole my iPod touch (16GB) with the casette adapter that lets me play my music. I'm really upset right now that I lost a $3,000 laptop that I saved up two years for. Can't really understand why this would happen to me and why someone would be doing this.

I'm just glad that you guys offered me for being a crutch for my broken legs. I just wish that this thread will provide an example of what might happen if they were to ever deal on craigslist.

**** happens my friend. this is a pretty f-uc-ked society/world. it may happen to me too coz i walk home around 3 - 5 am daliy in west Philly... Maybe I should get an AK, right djinn?

[powermac_daddy]

i am not trying to be an ass here. i don't know if i'm 110% believe in this guy's story. he might be real.

How can you even deal with private numbers? think before you step out of your house? Don't you have a cell phone? It's craigslist...

[heads up]

it would be very interesting if you had the anti-theft software "undercover" installed on your mac.

http://www.orbicule.com/products/

[powermac_daddy]

it would be very interesting if you had the anti-theft software "undercover" installed on your mac.

http://www.orbicule.com/products/

this won't help.

[heads up]

this won't help.

of course it will.
once it takes a picture of them with the isight camera built in, you send that picture to the police.
plus it gets all their network information and takes screenshots of what they're doing.
i'd say this is the best chance you would have in recovering a stolen mac.

[tuneman07]

I am sorry to hear about the robbery- I had my laptop stolen although it was done sneakily not with force.

As for Craig's list I never liked the idea and have never used it. I have had weird enough people calling me/emailing me etc... from E-bay to the point where I have been a bit nervous about them and they were 2 or 3 hundred miles away. Even meeting in a crowded place would worry me as you don't know who you are meeting and you may have a lot of cash or expensive products with you and they know it. Also I wouldn't depend on others to help you- often people just aren't paying attention or they bystander effect kicks in.

[apple90]

i am not trying to be an ass here. i don't know if i'm 110% believe in this guy's story. he might be real.

How can you even deal with private numbers? think before you step out of your house? Don't you have a cell phone? It's craigslist...

I deal with private numbers because my house phone is listed as private. And yes I do have a cellphone thank you very much for your concern. :(

Well thanks to everyone (esp. the one who researched california insurance) and the others who posted here. May this thread continue to be a lesson for others dealing on craigslist.


Is there any way that if I give apple my serial number (which is still on my original box) that they can track it down? With a fee of course.


Oh my gosh I can barely keep my left eye opened... Kinda stings right now and the huge bump on my head feels so bruised up.

Thanks again guys.

Will post more updates if possible.

[jhsfosho]

Sorry to hear about that. I've never dealt with CL, but have had several transactions on ebay. I try very hard not to get ripped off.

I hope you can get something figured out with your MBP.

[Neil321]

Sorry to hear this,hope things work out and the assh***s who stole your notebook wind up in court,keep the faith

[CaptainCaveMann]

Gawd Craigslist is such a filthy website now, it's ridiculous. I really hope they find those guys. :cool:

[mtbdudex]

I deal with private numbers because my house phone is listed as private. And yes I do have a cellphone thank you very much for your concern. :(

Well thanks to everyone (esp. the one who researched california insurance) and the others who posted here. May this thread continue to be a lesson for others dealing on craigslist.


Is there any way that if I give apple my serial number (which is still on my original box) that they can track it down? With a fee of course.


Oh my gosh I can barely keep my left eye opened... Kinda stings right now and the huge bump on my head feels so bruised up.

Thanks again guys.

Will post more updates if possible.

On something like this, where a crime has been committed, can the police get the "real" number via detailed phone data??
There has gotta be some trace of it somehow.
I'm no expert, just curious if that is possible or not.

Sorry for your experience, better luck in the future.
And yes, for what's it worth, thx for posting, you do make others aware of what we sometimes forget, "don't trust strangers".
We teach that to our children, I have 3, yet as adults we trust people too easily just because we connected with them virtually.

[joeybagadonutz]

I strongly suggest you take pictures of your injuries. Please file a police report including serial numbers ASAP. Include the iPod and adapter with the MBP in the report. Then contact your auto insurance company with the report number about a possible claim. Compare your deductible and possible premium increase next year to the replacement cost. If you have not filed a claim in the past two years, file a claim. Your policy may cover replacement cost (new model) vs. value of the used machine. Price a new MBP of the same level for the insurance purposes, then look at a refurbished system to offset the deductible cost.

You may find yourself feeling jaded toward strangers because of this evil crime. If it helps, balance your thoughts with the MR "strangers" here who care about you.

[z0n3x]

IMO, craigslist has turned to **** lately.... I live in MN and about 6 months ago, a girl was murdered responding to a nanny wanted position. It scares me because my girlfriend has found several positions like that on CL. Its a sad world that you can be lured and killed (in your case beat up) in broad daylight in this "great" country. Eh, better luck next time.

[catskill]

I see that you did speak to police, which means a police report has been filed on the incident. My question is, did they ask for or did you provide them with the serial number of the laptop or ipod? I used to work in a cell phone store and someone was able to wrench free and steal a $400 Blackberry off our live display bar. When I contacted the police they requested the serial number of the device, which I provided. I think that if they were to recover the items they would check the serial numbers against their database to determine if the items were reported stolen. Since these people are criminals, it is not a long shot to imagine them getting busted for something and if your laptop is there it would be nice to trace it back to you via your report. I wonder if pawn shops check with the police stolen item list too?

[CRAZYBUBBA]

I wonder if pawn shops check with the police stolen item list too?

Yes, reputable pawn shops always do. Serial numbers are imperative.

[akadmon]

Yes, reputable pawn shops always do. Serial numbers are imperative.

Reputable pawn shops, why that's almost the same as reputable houses of ill repute!

Sorry -- could not resist :)

[interlaced]

I'm really sorry to hear about this. I buy and sell a lot of things on CL and it worries me when things like this happen. There's actually a listing on the LA CL warning about two guys that jumped the poster for the iPhones he was selling.

Any tips I have to others about future selling or buying is the same as what's been said so far. OP, I hope there's enough evidence to catch these crooks. Good luck.

[shoulin333]

:( sorry to hear this man


i guess the best you can do is write it off as a loss on next year's taxes, and buy yourself a new MBP / MBA to make yourself feel better


Also buy lojack for laptops!! i got that installed the first day i got my laptop

[Eric Lewis]

wow...this would suck

you find the robbers

and killthem

[Ryox]

I'm really sorry to hear that. It must be horrible.

[Eric Piercey]

We had a very bad experience with CL last year. Let's just say we put our safety in danger and police were involved. I'm not going into specifics out of fear of retaliation since I post under my name. I'll never use it again.

[markrivers]

i think everyone who was a victim of theft whether it be an ipod or a macbook etc should file a class lawsuit againts apple..
i'm not a lawyer, but ithink the media attention WILL force apple to include security measures in all those electronic products.. like an electronic signature, a GPS so that it can be tracable and no one will even try to buy a " questionable" ipod or mb, mbp.
this is happening all day, car windows are being smashed just to get the ipod inside the car..
if there's PRESSURE.. from us, the consumers i think we can make APPLE do this!:mad:

[heatmiser]

We had a very bad experience with CL last year. Let's just say we put our safety in danger and police were involved. I'm not going into specifics out of fear of retaliation since I post under my name. I'll never use it again.

It's never really a good idea to use your RN online. IIWU, I'd change it anyway.

[angrygolfer]

i think everyone who was a victim of theft whether it be an ipod or a macbook etc should file a class lawsuit againts apple..
i'm not a lawyer, but ithink the media attention WILL force apple to include security measures in all those electronic products.. like an electronic signature, a GPS so that it can be tracable and no one will even try to buy a " questionable" ipod or mb, mbp.
this is happening all day, car windows are being smashed just to get the ipod inside the car..
if there's PRESSURE.. from us, the consumers i think we can make APPLE do this!:mad:

That is not Apple's responsibility. What happened to the OP is extremely unfortunate (and not his fault) and my best wishes go out to him, but examples of leaving things in you car (referring to markrivers comments above) that are valuable is really that persons fault for doing so. However, in the laptop situation companies do make things like LoJack for laptops that will help track the physical location of the machine.

[markrivers]

That is not Apple's responsibility. What happened to the OP is extremely unfortunate (and not his fault) and my best wishes go out to him, but examples of leaving things in you car (referring to markrivers comments above) that are valuable is really that persons fault for doing so. However, in the laptop situation companies do make things like LoJack for laptops that will help track the physical location of the machine.

i agree with you in some points, like it's the owner's responsibility not to leave valuable in their cars, and that it's not APple's responsibility as well.. but what we're asking here is a MORE proactive apporach on apple's part to deter such situations..
but i strongly believe that any company HAVE a moral obligation to address issues affecting their customers.

[angrygolfer]

i agree with you in some points, like it's the owner's responsibility not to leave valuable in their cars, and that it's not APple's responsibility as well.. but what we're asking here is a MORE proactive apporach on apple's part to deter such situations..
but i strongly believe that any company HAVE a moral obligation to address issues affecting their customers.


At a minimum I will say that with the premium price that Apple charges they should include a 1 yr. of something like LoJack. I totally understand where you're coming from, but honestly Apple (and for that matter any company) doesn't care. It is a shame...

[heatmiser]

i agree with you in some points, like it's the owner's responsibility not to leave valuable in their cars, and that it's not APple's responsibility as well.. but what we're asking here is a MORE proactive apporach on apple's part to deter such situations..
but i strongly believe that any company HAVE a moral obligation to address issues affecting their customers.


I'd rather Apple fix the magsafe, Leopard, and their buggy laptops before putting anti-theft devices into their machines.

[angrygolfer]

I'd rather Apple fix the magsafe, Leopard, and their buggy laptops before putting anti-theft devices into their machines.

NICE!

[apple90]

Hey guys thanks for the replys.

No, no word from police yet... I don't think they will ever get those crooks since there was no evidence, no security camera around the premises, etc.

Really upsets me and makes me sad.

Wish someone could buy me a macbook pro :(

[markrivers]

if apple can increase the storage capacity of ipods, make exemplary products like the iphone, i don't see why they can't make some effort to address the security issues..
there was a segment at TODAY' show ( NBC) a few moths ago about this..
things that will make it harder for a thief or someone who buys an ipod from these crooks should not be so hard..
ex. would be like difficulty in using itunes.. without the proper reg key..
i have nothing againts apple, but if they're spending huge amount of money for research on how to make their products the "hottest" then why not make it one of the "safest" as well??:)

[markrivers]

Hey guys thanks for the replys.

No, no word from police yet... I don't think they will ever get those crooks since there was no evidence, no security camera around the premises, etc.

Really upsets me and makes me sad.

Wish someone could buy me a macbook pro :(

sorry to hear that! but things will get better..

[apple90]

sorry to hear that! but things will get better..



Thanks... really appreciate it~

[Stampyhead]

i'm not a lawyer, but ithink the media attention WILL force apple to include security measures in all those electronic products..

Ha ha, that's funny. You're kidding, right? Of course, since Apple products are the only ones that ever get stolen...

...Then contact your auto insurance company with the report number about a possible claim.

I'm missing something here. Why would he contact his auto insurance company over a stolen computer?

[crazyskillz07]

Its always a good idea to get a persons number and call them where they pick up before hand so that the number can be used for police reports. Not sure if any1 mentioned this.. Just thought i would add

[MysteryHat]

I dunno if it helps, but when my hockey pads were stolen, I called my homeowners insurance, and since they were so expensive, I was able to get all my money back.
Perhaps its worth a try?

[markrivers]

Ha ha, that's funny. You're kidding, right? Of course, since Apple products are the only ones that ever get stolen...



I'm missing something here. Why would he contact his auto insurance company over a stolen computer?

it's called REnter's insurance.. a form of insurance that is an extra for card insurance like Geico etc..
the thing is, you need to have lost it inside your apartment like a fire or a forced entry etc.. that's how i understood it.

[markrivers]

I dunno if it helps, but when my hockey pads were stolen, I called my homeowners insurance, and since they were so expensive, I was able to get all my money back.
Perhaps its worth a try?

how much did you spend for those hockey pads?? i'm just curious!
i was originally from Vancouver, Canada.. and you know how crzy we are when it comes to hockey :D

[RHD]

I'm really sorry to hear it. Don't feel bad because you were ambushed and outnumbered.

What goes around comes around.

18 months ago I was mugged by a guy at the end of my road who waved a meat cleaver at me and demanded money. I didn't have any on me so I gave him my mobile phone. He ended up in prison, not because I reported that theft (which I did) but because he and his mates got overconfident and attacked a bunch of other people.

He's banged up for 7 years, it was in the paper, and I've got a new phone.

[e²Studios]

Yes, reputable pawn shops always do. Serial numbers are imperative.

Thank you guys so much. ARGH... I just finished talking to the police telling them everything I posted here and they just left the house 5 minutes ago.
I just wish that I could be more careful next time.

But on the side note, I am really upset. I have to save up for another whole two years for another laptop. Another 2 whole years. Just can't believe it.

Call Pawn shops in your local area and give them your serial number, chances are a lot of them arent going to be too proactive so why not let them know that a MBP with that serial number is stolen.

Can't hurt to try, Sorry to hear that this happened to you though.

Call your insurance company, it should be covered minus your deductible.

I don't deal with CL anymore. The bank idea is great though

[nhcowboy1]

I'm missing something here. Why would he contact his auto insurance company over a stolen computer?

Apple90 lost several items - not just his computer - and some of them were taken from his car. If he has comprehensive coverage and not just liability coverage for his car, that would include theft insurance for any items stolen from the car (albeit with a deductible).

I don't think they will ever get those crooks since there was no evidence, no security camera around the premises, etc.

Now this I do not understand. The emails sent to you by the thief when he originally contacted you in response to your ad on craigslist - those are evidence! They give the thief's ISP address. That's even better than a fuzzy image on a security camera! Isn't anyone looking at those??? Someone should be . . . It seems to me that the police department's white collar/computer crime unit should be following through on this.

[weckart]

Now this I do not understand. The emails sent to you by the thief when he originally contacted you in response to your ad on craigslist - those are evidence! They give the thief's ISP address. That's even better than a fuzzy image on a security camera! Isn't anyone looking at those??? Someone should be . . . It seems to me that the police department's white collar/computer crime unit should be following through on this.

His ISP will most likely be a Starbucks or some internet cafe. I doubt the thief would have been that careless.

[iTeen]

start looking on ebay and other online auction sites for you MBP and iPod.
really sorry to think about this...its my worst fear when toting my MB.

[apple90]

Now this I do not understand. The emails sent to you by the thief when he originally contacted you in response to your ad on craigslist - those are evidence! They give the thief's ISP address. That's even better than a fuzzy image on a security camera! Isn't anyone looking at those??? Someone should be . . . It seems to me that the police department's white collar/computer crime unit should be following through on this.

Thanks for the reply... The thieves did not leave me any email... They called my cellphone directly since I put up my cellphone number...

Also

UPDATE*

Police found out that "private" number was actually a Cingular/ATT pre-paid SIM card number.

So, nothing is up for me guys. NOTHING NADA

And yet I cannot afford another MPB/MB/mac mini/iMac, iPhone, etc.

[thechidz]

His ISP will most likely be a Starbucks or some internet cafe. I doubt the thief would have been that careless.

Me thinks you overestimate the intelligence of thieves...


UPDATE*

Police found out that "private" number was actually a Cingular/ATT pre-paid SIM card number.

So, nothing is up for me guys. NOTHING NADA

And yet I cannot afford another MPB/MB/mac mini/iMac, iPhone, etc.

well, dont people need to give their ss# to get att prepaid sims? it has to at least be a lead

I know when I bought my t-mobile sim prepaid I had to show my drivers license and give my ss#

[Kelly™]

Me thinks you overestimate the intelligence of thieves...



well, dont people need to give their ss# to get att prepaid sims? it has to at least be a lead

I know when I bought my t-mobile sim prepaid I had to show my drivers license and give my ss#

No. I can go into a local gas station and buy a prepaid phone ready to go out of box fir $15 cash and it never even asks for a name.

Sorry XD

[kkat69]

i think everyone who was a victim of theft whether it be an ipod or a macbook etc should file a class lawsuit againts apple..
i'm not a lawyer, but ithink the media attention WILL force apple to include security measures in all those electronic products.. like an electronic signature, a GPS so that it can be tracable and no one will even try to buy a " questionable" ipod or mb, mbp.
this is happening all day, car windows are being smashed just to get the ipod inside the car..
if there's PRESSURE.. from us, the consumers i think we can make APPLE do this!:mad:

This has to be an award for the most Worthless reponse to a post ever.

First of all, sorry to hear what happened man. I just caught up with this thread.

Please by all means keep us informed.

Secondly, filing a class action lawsuit for not putting security measures into a device made only draws the public attention of how ignorant and irresponsible a person is. I mean that's like saying filing a lawsuit against Ford for not making thumbprint ignitions standard because I keep loosing my car keys, then another suit will be filed because someone burnt their fingertips in an accident so they want voice recognition ignition, then another suit filed because someone got into a nasty accident and now has a trachea tube now.

Or suing McDonalds because some dumb idiot didn't realize that Hot Coffee was actually Hot, heck I thought it was cold myself. :eek:

Lawsuit no, petition for a "FEATURE" yes or should we say Optional Feature. It shouldn't be Apples responsibility for starters but if ppl petition for Apple it needs to be done for all laptops, oh and lets not stop there, we need the same ability for Cell Phones, we need to disable the ability to hard reset, also I would like the same ability for my jvc camcorder, and the list goes on and on and on and on and on........................

[Kelly™]

I guess if it was an ATT "Pay as you go" or whatever phone then yes, you should at least be able to get a credit card they used to fill it with.

[BOSS10L]

Sorry to hear it Apple90.

Just one more reason I'll never buy/sell anything on CL. Too much to chance, especially with a MBP.

[nep036]

Hi guys, i am writing from italy, so excuse me for my bad english :-)

I'm sorry for the OP, it's terrible to read this kind of stories...

What I can suggest is:

1 Open a new email account
2 Do a new account on Craig List
3 Try to sell another used MBP (like a brand new one is better)... if you want add also an iPhone to make the offer very interesting...
4 specify the city and some other infos about where you are and write that you prefer to sell these objects to a person that you can meet by person

5 wait that the bastard contact you again to stole your fake MBP at your new email address and meet him with the police...

if you are lucky you could get him...

Just an idea...

Bye!!!

[thechidz]

I guess if it was an ATT "Pay as you go" or whatever phone then yes, you should at least be able to get a credit card they used to fill it with.

he said it was an att/cingular sim... not a go phone... if it was a sim card im pretty sure there would be documented information with the purchase

[JCastro]

This has to be an award for the most Worthless reponse to a post ever.

+1

And then due the all the legal expenses, additional hardware and research and developement, Apple is forced to charge 25-50% more for their products. :rolleyes:

When all along all we had to do is take responsibility for our own safety and security instead of waiting for someone else to do it for us. There are products out as others have pointed out. Use them if you want or don't. Either way it is your choice and you get to live with the consequences.

Excellent points by the way, to everyone that is passing advise when selling item to strangers.

Sorry to hear about your situation apple90. I do hope that these guys are brought to justice. If they did it once they will do it again. Good luck!!

[JDR]

apple90,

Was your computer under password protection at the time? I'm not sure if the thieves want to use the computer for their own personal use or to sell it again, but if it was password protected then there's a chance that they might bring it to a Apple Store and make up a phony story of how they don't know the password or something like that...in that case, you might want to call Apple and report the serial number as stolen....along with your iPod's.

Best of luck,
JDR

[cmaurer]

I'm sooo sorry:( this was terrible and can happen to anyone. This makes me think twice about buying and selling on craigslist. I appreciate you sharing your experience and hope some way you get it back and they get what's coming to them

[benlee]

This has to be an award for the most Worthless reponse to a post ever.

First of all, sorry to hear what happened man. I just caught up with this thread.

Please by all means keep us informed.

Secondly, filing a class action lawsuit for not putting security measures into a device made only draws the public attention of how ignorant and irresponsible a person is. I mean that's like saying filing a lawsuit against Ford for not making thumbprint ignitions standard because I keep loosing my car keys, then another suit will be filed because someone burnt their fingertips in an accident so they want voice recognition ignition, then another suit filed because someone got into a nasty accident and now has a trachea tube now.

Or suing McDonalds because some dumb idiot didn't realize that Hot Coffee was actually Hot, heck I thought it was cold myself. :eek:

Lawsuit no, petition for a "FEATURE" yes or should we say Optional Feature. It shouldn't be Apples responsibility for starters but if ppl petition for Apple it needs to be done for all laptops, oh and lets not stop there, we need the same ability for Cell Phones, we need to disable the ability to hard reset, also I would like the same ability for my jvc camcorder, and the list goes on and on and on and on and on........................

I agree with you that that was the most useless post and wasn't very thought out. You can't sue Apple for not putting security devices on their products. You may be able to sue for anything but it still has to make it through a motion to dismiss. This clearly would not make it through a motion to dismiss considering the legal power of Apple and well, quite frankly the absurd nature of the complaint.

Suing McDonald's for hot coffee is of an entirely different nature though. And has more merit than you might think. The famous case, rested on the foundation that the coffee was upwards of 190 degrees when regular coffee is only at around 130-150 (at most). McD was keeping it so hot to sell more coffee. (the hotter it is the better the aroma--the better the taste, etc.) They continued to sell it at these high prices despite many injuries as a result. (basis cost-benefit analysis).

Unless you can prove that Apple intentionally doesn't include security devices in order to sell more laptops and then is hiring people to steal laptops. I don't think any smart lawyer would take the case.

Disclaimer: I'm not saying McDs should be liable for the hot coffee injuries...just saying there is merit to the case.

[Consultant]

Sorry to hear about this :(

I try to complete large CL transactions at the bank during business hours -- if I'm a buyer, I withdraw the cash on the spot. If I'm a seller, I deposit the funds immediately to make sure I'm not getting counterfeit currency.

If I can't set up a meeting at the bank, then 1) I make sure that I have an actual phone number, and 2) I listen to the person carefully to ensure he/she is reputable. We then complete the transaction in a Starbucks or similar public venue.

Good call. I always get a real phone number, but as OP mentioned, the phone can be real but untraceable... Ouch. Will keep that in mind.

I guess always public places with lots of people...

Sorry to hear it...

[gothamm]

Look, to all of you disgruntled about dealing via craigslist, this is rare. Sure you hear the stories, read the threads/news but they are never "oh, hey guys! I am making this thread to let you know that my craigslist transaction went smoothly! The buyer was a great guy and we talked and it turns out he is a club promotor and offered to put me on a guest list to this super high-end venue"

All of my transactions have been very smooth. And there have been a lot. I suppose you could call me a craigslist veteran. Here are some of the major things I have sold on there:

-Vizio 37 inch HDTV (had the guy come into my apartment to check it out and paid me upfront)

-Nokia N95 (Met the guy at local starbucks...sold it and got an iphone ;) )

- Xbox 360 (bought) - met the guy at his place. Scary looking mofo with house in middle of central LA. Got a great price. $240 for 3 wireless remotes, 20 gb console, call of duty 3 and gears of war (both brand new sealed). Guy was nice and threw in another remote control since he didn't need it (so thats 4 total).

- Xbox 360 (sold) - (Went into a guy's apartment on the 4th floor and hooked it up for him to show him that it worked. He was a pothead and was high during this transaction but overall great guy. There were a couple of girls he was living with and one was freaking out because her interview was tomorrow and she needed to finish her resume. I sat with her and gave her advice on what to put on it. We are good friends now)

Panasonic MP3 system - again, guy came into my apartment for demo and bought upfront.


I've had countless other minor transactions.

Look, the point I am trying to make is to NOT focus on the negative. People are...people. Some have bad intentions sure, but you need to convey in EVERY transaction that you are not f*cking around. Speak confidently. If anything, the person I am dealing with is nervous on occasion. Thats when you can sooth them too. It works both ways.

Be a good person, but don't let anyone f*ck you over. Ever.

[puckhead193]

I dunno if it helps, but when my hockey pads were stolen, I called my homeowners insurance, and since they were so expensive, I was able to get all my money back.
Perhaps its worth a try?

how much did you spend for those hockey pads?? i'm just curious!
i was originally from Vancouver, Canada.. and you know how crzy we are when it comes to hockey :D
well $200 just for a stick...Skates $600.... it adds up

[apple90]

Me thinks you overestimate the intelligence of thieves...



well, dont people need to give their ss# to get att prepaid sims? it has to at least be a lead

I know when I bought my t-mobile sim prepaid I had to show my drivers license and give my ss#
You can just buy one off ebay for like $7

http://cgi.ebay.com/T-Mobile-TOGO-prepaid-pre-paid-sim-card-30-150min_W0QQitemZ320217102451QQihZ011QQcategoryZ43308QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

As for the "Craiglist Veteran", I don't know how in the world I would ever go to someone's HOUSE after this incident... I really can't picture myself.

[heatmiser]

As for the "Craiglist Veteran", I don't know how in the world I would ever go to someone's HOUSE after this incident... I really can't picture myself.

Yeah, that's hardcore.

[gothamm]

You can just buy one off ebay for like $7

http://cgi.ebay.com/T-Mobile-TOGO-prepaid-pre-paid-sim-card-30-150min_W0QQitemZ320217102451QQihZ011QQcategoryZ43308QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

As for the "Craiglist Veteran", I don't know how in the world I would ever go to someone's HOUSE after this incident... I really can't picture myself.

i forgot to add that i am truly sorry about what happened to you man.

Contrary to popular belief, i think going to someone's house is safe. I mean, you KNOW where they live. I usually have some friends accompany me and wait for me in the car. I admit that some of the stuff i do is fairly risky. Its the price you pay for getting cheap, great deals and its a risk i am willing to take.

Anyways, i hope you don't let this experience destroy your faith in humanity. And i hope you continue to use craigslist, because its a great tool (just be more...thoughtful about the meeting location next time ;) ) Most people out there are good people.

[bmwpowere36m3]

1. Report to police
2. Lesson learned about online buying/selling

I'm very active on my BMW forum and anytime it comes to buy or sell something locally, I always meet up in the day and in a very public place (like a mall, commuter parking lot, etc...) Craigslist is also known for all kinds of crazies and scams. The time I sold some rims on craigslist, we met up in a local commuter lot and the guy came with his buddy. The only time I ever went to someone's house was when I bought a set of winter wheels. The guy was like 50 and lived in an affluent area...everything went well.

I'd say as a seller never invite someone to your home, you never know...plus they just might be taking a look to see if you have something of value to steal later. As a buyer, just be aware where you are going...if you end up in the ghetto (sorry to say) sh*t does happen (not saying it will or does).

[taylorwilsdon]

I have this debate with myself all the time. I don't carry a gun because I can't get a license and I sell a lot of **** on craigslist. I have friends that pack but I only bring a friend along if its gone really sketchy. I usually meet at a local starbucks or if its really high value, his or my bank (makes it easier to get the cash anyways).

HOWEVER - I still find myself going to peoples houses and having people at my house, both of which bug me. Couple o' tips - lock your wallet in the glove box so if ish goes down, you don't get EVERYTHING taken. Don't flash an iPhone when you roll up (I've done that before, ugh) and meet somewhere there is light. Don't ever meet in an enclosed area. If the neighborhood looks sketchy, it probably is.

[f1400]

I'm really sorry for what happened and I feel for you even though that never happened to me.

I gotta admit I did some risky deals in the past few years. I've sold maybe 6 or 7 apple laptops (pro ones, powerbooks or macbook pros) to some sketchy people. Once I actually ended up in a ghetto at someones house! Although the guy was very nice and caused me no trouble whatsoever.

The first time I bought a computer from a guy, not only did I go to HIS house but I brought 4 friends along with me. The guy must've been scared ********.

I usually meet people in very public places, such as inside a tim hortons or starbucks or the like. Although last week I did meet a guy in a public parking lot when I sold my iPhone, and I admit it could have turned out exactly like your story did.

Thank you for sharing your experience, I know I'll definitely be more careful in the future even though nothing has gone wrong for me so far.

[ceiph]

my craigslist secrets have been said but ill just mention them again. meeting in a bank is always best if possible.

otherwise if its high value i perfer any cafe, starbucks pannera, that sorta thing and i show up early so im already inside with the merchindise.

last ill always pick a mutural ground, i try to go half way between where we live. so no scetchy neighborhoods, or house calls but eh. i love craigslist

[nhcowboy1]

Okay, I've got to jump in here. I've been following this thread since Apple90 first posted on Sunday evening. And becoming increasingly uncomfortable . . . because I had an appointment to go to someone's house (yes, house) on Tuesday morning to pick up a Mac laptop that was listed on craigslist. The guy I'm supposed to be meeting is, well, a guy. Me: NOT a guy! So, I'm thinking about what everyone has written, and wondering, do I ask to meet him at a Starbucks, maybe a bank?

In the end, I did none of those. Figured I'd play it by ear (or eye actually - I thought I'd check out the house, neighborhood, etc., before I went in). But he'd told me he worked out of his house, and I didn't want to waste his time by dragging him across town.

How did it turn out? Not only was he a great guy, and spent quite a bit of time showing me the laptop and what it did . . . but it also turned out that he grew up in Merced, out-in-the-middle-of-nowhere, California. Not remarkable, perhaps, unless you're now on the other side of the country (as I am) and also grew up in California! I was there about two hours in all, before I finally headed home - as pleased with the experience as I was with the computer.

As Gothamm said, "People are...people." No doubt, I took a chance. And I was lucky. Apple90 was unlucky - profoundly so! Craigslist attracts its share of losers. So does eBay. And so, no doubt, does MacRumors. You still have to decide how you're going to live your life. I am fortunate enough that I don't have to live in a big city. But if I did, I'd probably live my life the same way . . . and hope for the best.

[DJ88]

Haha, why is it that almost all mac users think starbucks is the only public place in the world. :p

[gothamm]

Okay, I've got to jump in here. I've been following this thread since Apple90 first posted on Sunday evening. And becoming increasingly uncomfortable . . . because I had an appointment to go to someone's house (yes, house) on Tuesday morning to pick up a Mac laptop that was listed on craigslist. The guy I'm supposed to be meeting is, well, a guy. Me: NOT a guy! So, I'm thinking about what everyone has written, and wondering, do I ask to meet him at a Starbucks, maybe a bank?

In the end, I did none of those. Figured I'd play it by ear (or eye actually - I thought I'd check out the house, neighborhood, etc., before I went in). But he'd told me he worked out of his house, and I didn't want to waste his time by dragging him across town.

How did it turn out? Not only was he a great guy, and spent quite a bit of time showing me the laptop and what it did . . . but it also turned out that he grew up in Merced, out-in-the-middle-of-nowhere, California. Not remarkable, perhaps, unless you're now on the other side of the country (as I am) and also grew up in California! I was there about two hours in all, before I finally headed home - as pleased with the experience as I was with the computer.

As Gothamm said, "People are...people." No doubt, I took a chance. And I was lucky. Apple90 was unlucky - profoundly so! Craigslist attracts its share of losers. So does eBay. And so, no doubt, does MacRumors. You still have to decide how you're going to live your life. I am fortunate enough that I don't have to live in a big city. But if I did, I'd probably live my life the same way . . . and hope for the best.

great stuff. its a small world aint it? my girlfriend currently goes to UCMerced. I live here in LA =]

[Towhead]

Hi guys, i am writing from italy, so excuse me for my bad english :-)

I'm sorry for the OP, it's terrible to read this kind of stories...

What I can suggest is:

1 Open a new email account
2 Do a new account on Craig List
3 Try to sell another used MBP (like a brand new one is better)... if you want add also an iPhone to make the offer very interesting...
4 specify the city and some other infos about where you are and write that you prefer to sell these objects to a person that you can meet by person

5 wait that the bastard contact you again to stole your fake MBP at your new email address and meet him with the police...

if you are lucky you could get him...

Just an idea...

Bye!!!

great idea, but leave the cops out and take some friends and brass knuckles and have fun.

[WindowsOrMac]

Hey, anyone else think OP is making up the story and wants everyone to chip in to buy him a MBP? Just read through the whole thread and it kind of seems like that. Or I'm an ass hole... and I should think nicer thoughts about people.

[Neil321]

Hey, anyone else think OP is making up the story and wants everyone to chip in to buy him a MBP? Just read through the whole thread and it kind of seems like that. Or I'm an ass hole... and I should think nicer thoughts about people.

Me id say your assh*le and should think better of people

[WindowsOrMac]

damn.... I guess I am. it was a shot in the dark.

here is what led me to that thought:

1. posts on a forum after he just gets mugged... I'm a geek and that wouldn't be the first thing on my mind.
2. doesn't mention his broken legs in the first post (might have been a metaphor... but, if it was, it doesn't make any sense really)
3. mentions several times, "I wish someone would buy me a laptop" or something close to that effect.
4. makes sure to eventually say there is absolutely no way the police will recover it and that again, he wishes someone would buy him a laptop.

I usually trust people, I just had a feeling about this one.... but if it really happened, my apologies to OP, I'm glad nothing worse happened to you. :confused:

[Ant1-Hero]

i meet at coffee shop 99% of time, with friends 40% waiting out side, with client unaware, just incase.

never had a single problem

[markrivers]

meet in your local police station...:D

[nhcowboy1]

great stuff. its a small world aint it? my girlfriend currently goes to UCMerced. I live here in LA =]

Thank you, gothamm, for making me smile . . . .

And I also think that nep036 from Italy had a really good idea.

BTW, for those who commented that the thieves here might be too "smart" to fall for a trick . . . . These were muggers, not con artists. The only reason that they succeeded is that they got lucky, too! The computer may end up in a local pawnshop, or it may just go to one of their girlfriends. But chances are it won't go far. EBay, and even craigslist, require some minimal command of the English language. So if you're looking there, look for a listing that's pretty basic.

[junker]

Very sorry this happened to ya - I've been robbed a couple of times (by knife when I was in 6th grade, gang of 3 after exiting an ATM, and 5 home robberies -Hyde park, Chicago - circa 1992)

So, I feel the shame/pain - the positive thing here is: you learned a lesson and lived another day! Really - this is the best approach to this life lesson IMHO :)

Anyway, I seem to remember that there was a way to track Mac Laptops. I remember a while back I read there were (software and hardware) anti theft technologies built into Mac Lappy's. I know there are some traceback programs one can install, but I thought Apple had started to include this by default. I could be mistaken. I would contact Apple with your SN and see if they have any available options to track it if it pops up online.

Also, contact Craigslist and mention this event. They will have the "buyers" original email (for that matter, you should as well - when you arranged for a meetup) Then you could pursue the ISP to give you the "buyers" IP, which would then lead to a physical address.

In summary: Contact - Police; Craigslist; and the ISP. Also contact the place you met (Target?) to see if they have any CCTV footage.

From what I hear, the Craigslist founder (Craig) is very supportive of people being respectful and community... this would be a good way for him to prove it! :)

This is a Felony theft and Felony assault. I'm sure there are more charges that could arise. These guys need to be caught...don't give up.

edit: oops, I read a few previous pages that you posted your phone number and had no email conversations. Crud. Definitly get you SN of both ipod and Macbook, contact local pawn shops, give it to police, possibly look for it on craiglist. Maybe contact apple and see what they can do about keeping an eye out for the SN

[Cybergypsy]

Wow sorry, makes me think how many times i have been alone, and did the same thing, not safe for me or a man.....

[dtklamf]

never meet anyone from the internet.

[Cybergypsy]

To bad you didnt have a tracker on the laptop.....thinking of getting it on my air....

[Neil321]

damn.... I guess I am. it was a shot in the dark.

here is what led me to that thought:

1. posts on a forum after he just gets mugged... I'm a geek and that wouldn't be the first thing on my mind.
2. doesn't mention his broken legs in the first post (might have been a metaphor... but, if it was, it doesn't make any sense really)
3. mentions several times, "I wish someone would buy me a laptop" or something close to that effect.
4. makes sure to eventually say there is absolutely no way the police will recover it and that again, he wishes someone would buy him a laptop.

I usually trust people, I just had a feeling about this one.... but if it really happened, my apologies to OP, I'm glad nothing worse happened to you. :confused:

Gotta admit some of those thoughts crossed my mind,but not everyone it out there
to try and get something for nothing,i just hope whoever did nick it ends up getting
caught and regrets it

[junker]

Gotta admit some of those thoughts crossed my mind,but not everyone it out there
to try and get something for nothing,i just hope whoever did nick it ends up getting
caught and regrets it


I hate to admit it also, but I sorta heard that very suspicion cry from the shadows of my wee mind. But, as I've been victimized several times myself in my many years, I am overly mistrustful of all you humans.

It's probably the latent criminal mind of my own that calls out from the dark.

:)

[Paix247]

I sold my 12" PowerBook a couple of years ago off of craigslist. I met the guy at my local Dunn Bros (way better than Starbucks). It was dark, but I took my uncle with me. The guy had a couple of friends with him too. Turns out, he was a musician that I had heard of before, and he was taking the laptop on tour with him and one of my all time favorite local bands. :cool:

[Eric Piercey]

It's never really a good idea to use your RN online. IIWU, I'd change it anyway.

Maybe not, but I feel one of the biggest problems with the internet is people hide behind some big mask. We should be connecting to one another, not living in perpetual fear. We should be proud of who we are and what we say- and not scared little bunnies shaking in our burrows. We live in such a heightened state of fear all the time. So that's why I do it.

PS I'm broke so don't bother hacking my shizzle... and I spent all my money on firearms... and kung fu lessons.. and a satellite death ray.

[jturn00]

To bad you didnt have a tracker on the laptop.....thinking of getting it on my air....

what type of tracker works with a MBA or MBP? I've seen dell selling lojack for windoze computers. Does that work for MBP?

Jeff

[markrivers]

This has to be an award for the most Worthless reponse to a post ever.

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i feel like i won a grammy!:D and being called stupid by DJ88..
wow! i feel like Pres. Bush.. ( since we went in the same school):D

kidding aside, i agree that with regards to safety and responsibility.. one should learn how to take care of himself.. and have some foresight..
know the person and contact numbers of the person you're dealing with .. BUT I don't think carrying a GUN is such a good idea..

here's what i usually do.. i've been doing transactions and meeting people from craiglist, so far i haven't encountered any problems..

1. get to know the person more while chatting on line or while talking to him on the phone.. do not give your last name!! or your address.
2. never use your own car.. ride a taxi!
3. never meet in your house or in their house.. you'll never know if it's a set up
4. pretend you work in " law enforcement" u don't have to say you're a cop or something.. u could do this while you're chatting with them.. don't make it too obvious that you're volunteering the info.
or someone in your family is a cop etc
5. if you're buying , bring only the amount that u need and the taxi fare..
no credit cards etc
6. don't wear your most expensive watch or engagement ring.. you're partner will surely understand.
7. meet in a familiar place.. not necessarily starbucks.. the mall is ok, since they have security.
8. be in the mall an hour ahead, and know your exit strategy and where to call for help.
9. TRUST your GUT feeling.. if you feel uncomfortable, walk away! it's ok.. say there's an emergency or something.
10. don't fall for "unrealistic" products.. like a 2 month old mbp for just $1000.
11. if you're buying ask for the serial number etc.
12. if you're buying, ask for a scanned copy of his receipt.
13. needless to say ask for a photo of the product.

good luck!
;)

[mike12806]

i'm really impressed that it took this long to get people to PUBLICY say he's making it up...althought I have to admit it crossed my mind at first too! I don't think he is, but from experience of being mugged for a Motorola V60 (old school silver small flip) and later having my car broken into and some stuff stolen, even if they find the people, like they did in my car break-in, you're looking at at least a year as it winds its way through the courts. Then, and only then, will the police release the evidence (your stuff) to you! Right to a speedy trial my a**!

[markrivers]

i'm really impressed that it took this long to get people to PUBLICY say he's making it up...althought I have to admit it crossed my mind at first too! I don't think he is, but from experience of being mugged for a Motorola V60 (old school silver small flip) and later having my car broken into and some stuff stolen, even if they find the people, like they did in my car break-in, you're looking at at least a year as it winds its way through the courts. Then, and only then, will the police release the evidence (your stuff) to you! Right to a speedy trial my a**!

the system sucks! justice delayed is justice denied.. imagine the time wasted. .being the victim and all.. setting appointments at your local police station to review the mug shots.. etc.. appearing in court if ever there'll be one.. such an exhausting experience.:o

[rezenclowd3]

what type of tracker works with a MBA or MBP? I've seen dell selling lojack for windoze computers. Does that work for MBP?

Jeff

Yes, you can buy Lojack for computers including Windows and OS X. Supposedly one can repartition the HD and the program will still work, but of course the company won't tell how it works, which I am thankful for.

[mike12806]

the system sucks! justice delayed is justice denied.. imagine the time wasted. .being the victim and all.. setting appointments at your local police station to review the mug shots.. etc.. appearing in court if ever there'll be one.. such an exhausting experience.:o

yup...even worse when you live three hours away from where it happened.

[woody88]

Hey guys thanks for the replys.

No, no word from police yet... I don't think they will ever get those crooks since there was no evidence, no security camera around the premises, etc.

Really upsets me and makes me sad.

Wish someone could buy me a macbook pro :(

Hi apple90,

that quote that you have, really makes me think. and I really hope that you are telling the truth. I saved up too for my stuff. there had been a couple of times, where my car got broken into, and each time, I have some pretty nice stereo in it, and it was taken away from me. Each time, I felt violated, and raged, BUT never once did I say, or to have a thought crossed my mind that said, "hmmm, I wish someone would buy me some stereo for my car". so you have to excuse that some of us are questioning this, it's as if you want the forum to compile a paypal account for you, and donate some money to get you a MBP. if and when you get a chance, we'd love to hear from you on your reasoning of that one sentence. and if it is true that you were mugged, we are all very sorry about it, and hope the crooks would be caught.

PS. Meeting at a park is not a good idea. it's too private and like you say, people can hide in the bushes. as cliche as it may sound, starbucks really is a good public place to meet.

[heatmiser]

...as cliche as it may sound, starbucks really is a good public place to meet.

...which is why at least 75% of the people in this thread who've discussed buying or selling experiences have mentioned it. Me? I don't even go to Starbucks. I mean, never. I don't like coffee, and the atmosphere of such places seems a little too A&F, if you know what I mean. That said, it was the first place I thought of when some dude asked to buy my iBook, and I went out of my way to find one on google in order to set up a meeting place. There's a reason why so many people rec Starbucks for CG; it's a safe, easily-identifiable landmark.

(Just to be clear; I'm totally agreeing with you).

[jackc]

I want to add a prayer that these thieves suffer for their crimes.

woody88, you make a good point. It's too easy for people to make up a story and get donations. But if it's true, then I reiterate my desire for pain and suffering.

[nhcowboy1]

what type of tracker works with a MBA or MBP? I've seen dell selling lojack for windoze computers. Does that work for MBP?

Check this out:

http://www.orbicule.com/products/

The product is called "Undercover" and it's made by a company called Ornicule in Belgium. For $49, you can download software that will allow your Mac to "phone home" if it is ever stolen. Once it is turned on by the thief, and connected to the internet, it will send screenshots of whatever the thief is doing - allowing his email and IP address to be identified. If it has a camera built in, it will also send pictures of the thief every six minutes. If that isn't enough to facilitate recovery of the stolen computer, the computer will go to "Plan B" and "play dead" 'til the thief gives up and sells it or takes it in for repair. Once it reaches its new location, the computer will wake up and broadcast a message (both on screen and over its speakers) that it's been stolen. Basically, it calls for help!

Ornicule also has a free downlad available of a program that allows MacBook owners to set an "alarm" when they want to step away from their laptop for a moment in a library or coffee shop. If anyone touches the laptop, the machines's motion sensor will trigger the alarm.

I just think these are both really cool ideas for protecting your Mac laptop!

[mactastic1971]

Haha, why is it that almost all mac users think starbucks is the only public place in the world. :p


And sorry about what happened apple90, hope they find the losers who stole your stuff.

Thats where they go EVERYDAY to continue writing their novels ...

;)

[Bobioden]

Hey, anyone else think OP is making up the story and wants everyone to chip in to buy him a MBP? Just read through the whole thread and it kind of seems like that. Or I'm an ass hole... and I should think nicer thoughts about people.

damn.... I guess I am. it was a shot in the dark.

here is what led me to that thought:

1. posts on a forum after he just gets mugged... I'm a geek and that wouldn't be the first thing on my mind.
2. doesn't mention his broken legs in the first post (might have been a metaphor... but, if it was, it doesn't make any sense really)
3. mentions several times, "I wish someone would buy me a laptop" or something close to that effect.
4. makes sure to eventually say there is absolutely no way the police will recover it and that again, he wishes someone would buy him a laptop.

I usually trust people, I just had a feeling about this one.... but if it really happened, my apologies to OP, I'm glad nothing worse happened to you. :confused:


I felt this very same way. I actually looked up some of the threads he started and am still not convinced there really was a Macbook Pro stolen.

On 1/30 - This thread about a broken iBook G4
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=424359

2/02 - A few days later how he HATES Windows and has to use his sisters laptop.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=426623

and then this thread on 2/10, one week later how his $3000, Macbook Pro got stolen and how he would LOVE for someone to buy him a new one.

If nothing comes from this post, guidelines for selling and buying on Craigslist are defined and some great suggestions were offered.

If the OP is telling the truth I feel for you, but begging for someone to BUY you a new Macbook Pro is unacceptable.

[glhiii]

I listed a camera on eBay. The person who won the auction wanted to meet me in a restaurant so we could complete the deal. When I showed up, I was met by 2 policemen who said the exact camera and case I had advertised had been stolen and they thought I was trying to sell stolen goods on eBay. When the serial numbers didn't match (fortunately, they had the sn of the stolen camera) I went on my way, still in possession of my camera. I never did sell it.

[junker]

Wicked sleuthing everyone! I think the case for fakery gets stronger when you read a post on Feb 2nd and his wanting a Macbook pro:

..........................

02-02-2008, 12:10 AM #13
apple90
macrumors member

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Torrance, CA
What I would do is buy a Macbook Pro with elevator/cooling system underneath it so it cools my macbook pro.

Then I would get an Apple Cinema Display and with my Macbook Pro closed, I would do my work on the big screen using of course an Apple keyboard, and Apple mouse (wireless), and talking on my iPhone.

Ahhh... Just to imagine having those items are a dream. At the moment I have nothing but a broken ibook g4

LOL
__________________
l Broken iBook G4 12inch 1.33Ghz l
l iPod Nano Silver 4 GB 2nd Generation l

......................

This is listed as one of his previous posts.... less than 2 weeks ago he was WISHING he had something other than a broken ibook g4?!?!?

I think I will count this one as a flim-flammery.

If the OP is offended by all this and finds our suspicions to be baseless, PLEASE... feel free to photograph/scan/upload the police report in full.

[heatmiser]

Does seem kind of strange that the OP would be so desperate for an MBP earlier and somehow, forget to post about his acquisition of one in between when he wanted it, when he got it, and when it got stolen from him by three [ ] guys. I mean, you'd think for a guy who went from a broken iBook to a "$3000 computer he saved up two years for", as he put it, would somewhere mention said $3000 computer before decrying its theft in a brand new thread.

Quite frankly, though, perhaps the most interesting part of the apple90 saga is the post he made 3 minutes before he wrote this thread...

Congrats

May I ask HOW IN THE WORLD you connected the internal 80GB HD with a USB?

That was at 9:40 pm on 2/10/08. Three minutes later, he started the thread you're reading now. I'm not sure how many people would be able to make such a...strange...transition from going out, getting mugged, beat down, and deprived of an iPhone + "$3000 Macbook Pro" to returning home and congratulating a random guy on his ability to hook a Macbook hard drive up to an external...and then, three minutes later, spreading the news about his horrific experience with Craigslist.

In fact, a bit of reading the guy's post history suggests he never had an iPhone to begin with. Two of his posts deal with hypothetical inquiries into how to re-shrink-wrap an iPhone (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4920092#post4920092) in order to pass it off as an unopened product, while several others involve questions related to flashing the firmware (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4920199#post4920199) in the event of his purchasing one. Go back a little further, and the guy is asking for support tips concerning his Macbook (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4886692#post4886692). This might be why he was so impressed with someone else's ability to hook up an 80gb Macbook hard drive to a USB external enclosure, three minutes before telling us his woebegone tale of Macbook Pro (and iPhone) deprivation.

This, my friends, is a scam. The OP never had an MBP. The OP never had an iPhone. The OP had a Macbook, and *wanted* an iPhone and an MBP. I call shenanigans.

[markrivers]

well the forum is named " macrumors.com" so everything here posted here is most probably a RUMOR!! he got us all going.. just like the people who said they're 85-100% sure that the mbp was coming out last tues.. or the next tues or the 26th.. :D
now looking on the bright side.. YES he wasted our time.. BUT from now on, we'll all be more cautious when dealing with people online.. at least something good came out from this " DRAMA":D

[JCastro]

Good catch!! :mad:

[noodle654]

This is one ****ed up thread.

[jackc]

Looks awfully suspicious there. Now he's just posted in another thread.

Could it be that he was that sloppy in creating this BS story? Nice try dude.

[kkat69]

Suing McDonald's for hot coffee is of an entirely different nature though. And has more merit than you might think. The famous case, rested on the foundation that the coffee was upwards of 190 degrees when regular coffee is only at around 130-150 (at most). McD was keeping it so hot to sell more coffee. (the hotter it is the better the aroma--the better the taste, etc.) They continued to sell it at these high prices despite many injuries as a result. (basis cost-benefit analysis).

Unless you can prove that Apple intentionally doesn't include security devices in order to sell more laptops and then is hiring people to steal laptops. I don't think any smart lawyer would take the case.

Disclaimer: I'm not saying McDs should be liable for the hot coffee injuries...just saying there is merit to the case.

Yes there was merit, I only used that example more in jest than anything. It was proven that the coffee was "hotter" than normal, than it should have been.

My wife used to do "Secret Shopper" things and one of her shops was starbucks and part of the shop was to take the temp of the coffee.

I only used that example of "I would like some hot coffee, btw it is hot right? not cold?" and not a solid background of peoples idiocy.

Really though that comment (here goes another one) suing the city of Anchorage Alaska for not putting security measures so you don't freeze your tongue to a flag pole. <--- was that one better? HAHAHAHA j/k :D:D:D

[joekix]

what a tool...

and the way this thread got edited too in the beginning. (racial overtones)

all for naught

[ewulls01]

well if this is all true make sure you call the local news. Save some neighbors of yours some grief!

Don't expect for the community to pool together and buy you a new computer but do it out of your good heart to get other people to be safe on CL.

The story out of MN is horrific and just joking about getting jumped is awful. I'm sure that the OP is telling the truth and this can be very traumatic so cut him a little slack (if he's lying, he'll pay for it in the end and we all just learned a good lesson).

[Macsleuth]

damn.... I guess I am. it was a shot in the dark.

here is what led me to that thought:

1. posts on a forum after he just gets mugged... I'm a geek and that wouldn't be the first thing on my mind.
2. doesn't mention his broken legs in the first post (might have been a metaphor... but, if it was, it doesn't make any sense really)
3. mentions several times, "I wish someone would buy me a laptop" or something close to that effect.
4. makes sure to eventually say there is absolutely no way the police will recover it and that again, he wishes someone would buy him a laptop.

I usually trust people, I just had a feeling about this one.... but if it really happened, my apologies to OP, I'm glad nothing worse happened to you. :confused:


Makes you wonder, I mean with all the scams going on around the web, why not something like this.
Maybe a group of good doers like Mac guys all get scammed for a few bucks so this guy can pay his rent or buy his junk.
Who knows.
Gary

[Watabou]

Yeah actually, I'm kinda getting where you guys are going with this. In the first post , he just says someone stole his mbp. Then he adds in the second or third post that his iPod touch got stolen as well.

I smell some bull.

[junker]

what a tool...

and the way this thread got edited too in the beginning. (racial overtones)

all for naught

Uh... racial overtones?

Wow! I really missed that/those posts... I thought we were talking about a (now questionable) CL Robbery.

[Watabou]

Does seem kind of strange that the OP would be so desperate for an MBP earlier and somehow, forget to post about his acquisition of one in between when he wanted it, when he got it, and when it got stolen from him by three [ ] guys. I mean, you'd think for a guy who went from a broken iBook to a "$3000 computer he saved up two years for", as he put it, would somewhere mention said $3000 computer before decrying its theft in a brand new thread.

Quite frankly, though, perhaps the most interesting part of the apple90 saga is the post he made 3 minutes before he wrote this thread...



That was at 9:40 pm on 2/10/08. Three minutes later, he started the thread you're reading now. I'm not sure how many people would be able to make such a...strange...transition from going out, getting mugged, beat down, and deprived of an iPhone + "$3000 Macbook Pro" to returning home and congratulating a random guy on his ability to hook a Macbook hard drive up to an external...and then, three minutes later, spreading the news about his horrific experience with Craigslist.

In fact, a bit of reading the guy's post history suggests he never had an iPhone to begin with. Two of his posts deal with hypothetical inquiries into how to re-shrink-wrap an iPhone (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4920092#post4920092) in order to pass it off as an unopened product, while several others involve questions related to flashing the firmware (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4920199#post4920199) in the event of his purchasing one. Go back a little further, and the guy is asking for support tips concerning his Macbook (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4886692#post4886692). This might be why he was so impressed with someone else's ability to hook up an 80gb Macbook hard drive to a USB external enclosure, three minutes before telling us his woebegone tale of Macbook Pro (and iPhone) deprivation.

This, my friends, is a scam. The OP never had an MBP. The OP never had an iPhone. The OP had a Macbook, and *wanted* an iPhone and an MBP. I call shenanigans.

It's possible that he had a iPod touch? He mentioned the touch not the iPhone...

but then again, he is still lying...

[joekix]

Uh... racial overtones?

Wow! I really missed that/those posts... I thought we were talking about a (now questionable) CL Robbery.

well in his first post, he said it was "3 black guys" that jumped him. someone mentioned, why did he have to add that they were black. most likely if it were 3 white guys, it would just be 3 guys. anyways...

[Tosser]

well if this is all true make sure you call the local news. Save some neighbors of yours some grief!

Don't expect for the community to pool together and buy you a new computer but do it out of your good heart to get other people to be safe on CL.

The story out of MN is horrific and just joking about getting jumped is awful. I'm sure that the OP is telling the truth and this can be very traumatic so cut him a little slack (if he's lying, he'll pay for it in the end and we all just learned a good lesson).

Someone didn't read the entire thread, or at least the last couple of pages, where it's in plain view how the OP lied and made the "mugging" up.

There's a fine line between being "trustful" to being plain old naive.

[junker]

well in his first post, he said it was "3 black guys" that jumped him. someone mentioned, why did he have to add that they were black. most likely if it were 3 white guys, it would just be 3 guys. anyways...

Oh...my bad. I guess that was edited out before I joined this roasting :) I do now see that he edited it for adjectives.

[heatmiser]

It's possible that he had a iPod touch? He mentioned the touch not the iPhone...

but then again, he is still lying...

Yeah, you're right; maybe it was a touch and not an iPhone that got "stolen". At this point, though, I don't know what to believe. The only things that seem pretty certain are that he never had an MBP, and he probably has a non-working iBook. This is silly...

What I would do is buy a Macbook Pro with elevator/cooling system underneath it so it cools my macbook pro.

Then I would get an Apple Cinema Display and with my Macbook Pro closed, I would do my work on the big screen using of course an Apple keyboard, and Apple mouse (wireless), and talking on my iPhone.

Ahhh... Just to imagine having those items are a dream. At the moment I have nothing but a broken ibook g4

LOL

Somehow, in those 8 days between 2/02 and 2/10, he got the last of his 3 grand together (the money he'd been saving for 2 years), bought a top-of-the-line MBP, decided to sell it (for reasons never mentioned), and was mugged in a parking lot in a CL deal gone bad. :D

[junker]

..... This is silly...


HAHAHA!

Yeah, I pretty much think this sums it all up now. I was hoping for the OP to come back on with a (photoshopped) police report (that I mentioned earlier) that we could analyze.

[Mac OS X Ocelot]

Y'all just got PUNK'D.

[jackc]

Somehow, in those 8 days between 2/02 and 2/10, he got the last of his 3 grand together (the money he'd been saving for 2 years), bought a top-of-the-line MBP, decided to sell it (for reasons never mentioned), and was mugged in a parking lot in a CL deal gone bad. :D

No kidding, what is he flipping it for a quick profit?

Also, just to add another little tidbit to the story, according to the timeline he posted this recommendation on the day of the robbery/beating (remember he was knocked out by a concrete brick), approximately one hour after the cops left his house

or buy a router that has N capability

The OP is a lying sack of sh*t

[Tosser]

The OP is a lying sack of sh*t

That's a little harsh …


Naw, who am I kidding. That little wannabe scam-artist deserve every bit of name calling anyone can lay on him.

Here's to hoping that he will actually get mugged and beaten as he cried about – karma and all.

[thebeat]

I see Queens University. That's near Waterloo.

[Hutch98R1]

2 words for meeting someone, especially a cash deal: Conceal Carry:eek:

[Anderson3133]

I see Queens University. That's near Waterloo.

Waterloo Ontario?

[markrivers]

let's now add more DRAMA to this soap opera... and the twist.. those allegedly 3 black guys... were actually girls! :D BLONDE girls but they were able to do a great job with make up and stuff ( bec one of them works at Dreamworks as a make up artist).. but wait! there's more.. if you keep on reading this thread.. you'll soon find out that aLL 3 Blonde ladies are actually Forum Members... and one of them is a demi-GOD.. :D

the real reason they allegeldy mugged this guy.. when questioned by CSI Stokes..is that, apple90 told them that the new MBP will be released last tues.. which we all know by now is a hoax! :D

negotiations are being made on who will play as apple90 on this upcoming movie to be announced soon! feb 26 by Steve himself:D

[Anderson3133]

let's now add more DRAMA to this soap opera... and the twist.. those allegedly 3 black guys... were actually girls! :D BLONDE girls but they were able to do a great job with make up and stuff ( bec one of them works at Dreamworks as a make up artist).. but wait! there's more.. if you keep on reading this thread.. you'll soon find out that aLL 3 Blonde ladies are actually Forum Members... and one of them is a demi-GOD.. :D

the real reason they allegeldy mugged this guy.. when questioned by CSI Stokes..is that, apple90 told them that the new MBP will be released last tues.. which we all know by now is a hoax! :D

negotiations are being made on who will play as apple90 on this upcoming movie to be announced soon! feb 26 by Steve himself:D

I frigging knew it! :D

[vansouza]

Not to be a jerk, but who gets robbed and first thinks: I better post on Macrumors?

May be because of a sense of community and the fact that some of us might really care.

[djinn]

Usually makes people feel better about spilling the beans about something. Kind of like telling your good friend about something you did and just talk it over.

We are each others counselor. :cool:

[devilot]

I think this thread has run its course.


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