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MacRumors
Oct 24, 2003, 08:47 PM
Apple's Night of Panther is ongoing in the United States.

Previous rumors were correct and Apple is offering 10% off any items purchased with Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther) and 10% off all Computers.

Dog Tags were given out as door gifts (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/10/20031024165610.shtml).



theipodgod16
Oct 24, 2003, 09:03 PM
what about mouse pads? i saw one from an italian blog, but are they doin it here?

jxyama
Oct 24, 2003, 09:08 PM
i just got back from novi, MI apple store with a brand new eMac. i got 10% off, but not with edu. discount. you can only get one or the other...

you also get 10% discount if you purchase panther at full retail price, $129. apple store here wasn't selling panther at $69 (edu discounted). instead, i was told to go order online.

dog tags are the only things given away... if you purchase anything small, you get those in a little different bag from usual, paper bag is the usual, i think. cloth-like material, white, laundry bag with silver apple design.

also, new lower priced eMacs and G4 iBooks were there... but on the attachment to the iMac giveaway entry sheet was eMac listed at available "starting at $899" including the 10% discounting, meaning it's the old priced $1,000 eMac... perhaps apple decided to drop the eMac prices the last second...

beware_phog
Oct 24, 2003, 09:20 PM
So tonight only?!! I mean, heck, my wife just had a baby today....that should be an excuse to get the discount tomrrow as well, right?

foofan
Oct 24, 2003, 09:28 PM
Tons of people at Westfarms store. They gave free dog tags at the door. Huge line to buy Panther. Guy did a good job with Panther presentation.

When they guy took questions about Panther, two people caught everyone's attention. One lady made reference to Powerbook G5, but the Apple guy didn't want to go there. Another guy wanted more info about plugging his iSight into his iPod. The Apple guy was intrigued by the idea. The guy who asked the question seemed to know know someone who attempted this.

One of the main reason why I went was because I wanted to try the new iBook G4's. Many people were using them, but I wasn't sure they weren't really G3's even though there were signs on the table that said G4. When I looked under the "about this mac" feature every iBook in the store was a G3 running panther. People in store were surprised. That's my only dissappointment.

rdowns
Oct 24, 2003, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by beware_phog
So tonight only?!! I mean, heck, my wife just had a baby today....that should be an excuse to get the discount tomrrow as well, right?

Congratulations, always like to hear when Mac users spawn a new one.

Get your priorities straight, Apple Stores open til midnight and 10% off is as rare as a stable Windows OS. It's not like your wife can't have another baby.

DeusOmnis
Oct 24, 2003, 09:33 PM
i want dog tags...

Macmaniac
Oct 24, 2003, 09:41 PM
There will be a lot of Dog tags on eBay tomorrow:) I want some, I wish I could be there, but I got to play with Panther at our Apple store instead, 2 days before the night of Panther:)

usersince86
Oct 24, 2003, 09:43 PM
I live in Venezuela but my parents live in Columbus, Ohio, only about 20 minutes from the Apple Store there.

Maybe I should call them and have them go pick up a new 15" PowerBook for me... that 10% discount is tempting!

tsmit
Oct 24, 2003, 09:47 PM
So i geeked out and snagged some pics of the Cambridgeside store. Some are wicked blurry, because, well, they were taken with my phone. But still, you get the idea:

Cambrdigeside, Boston MA (http://tsmit.home.comcast.net/pictures/bospanther)

PaisanoMan
Oct 24, 2003, 09:56 PM
If they are indeed giving 10% discounts on hardware, can it be compounded with the educational discounts?

I must know. :)

ITR 81
Oct 24, 2003, 10:05 PM
Computer:

Dual 1 GHz G4 "Quicksilver"
133 MHz bus
1 GB PC100 RAM
120 GB 7200 RPM HD
_______

http://home.comcast.net/~thabridawg/panther_data.gif
http://home.comcast.net/~thabridawg/panther_graph.gif

This shows a good performance increase overall and big UI increase which you can see and feel.

jamka
Oct 24, 2003, 10:06 PM
somebody a few posts up already said you can't do edu and 10% it's one or the other

sykkn
Oct 24, 2003, 10:10 PM
I got a Panther mouse pad at my local CompUSA. It's a big black circle with a big silver X :-).

sluthy
Oct 24, 2003, 10:14 PM
Is Panther worth the upgrade on a G3? I know about all the improvements with Quartz Extreme and using altiVec and all that, as well as compatibility with the G5, but none of that applies to my old iMac 500. And it only has one user. Is it still worth the price? Or should I wait until they offer it for free to teachers, like they did for Jaguar (three months after I paid $250 for it:mad: )?

straphound
Oct 24, 2003, 10:15 PM
When I went to the Microcenter in Westerville, Ohio the Apple rep there was giving away Apple T-Shirts and mouse pads. When I made it down to the Apple store in Columbus, Ohio they were out of the dogtags.

Of note, I bought a 12" PB today @ 4 PM and asked them if they were going to include Panther if I waited until after 8. I was told, "No, use the voucher online". When I went to the Apple store later, they were including the install discs with all PB's! Oh well, I can wait a day or two for Panther...

dho
Oct 24, 2003, 10:17 PM
sluthy:

panther has increased the speed of my imac 500 significantly.

It is worth it!

kenkooler
Oct 24, 2003, 10:27 PM
This is from Mexico :p
They had an incredible Panther presentation

Rower_CPU
Oct 24, 2003, 10:29 PM
I'm standing in line at the UTC (San Diego) opening...soooooo much geekiness. :D ;)

Chupa Chupa
Oct 24, 2003, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by straphound
When I went to the Microcenter in Westerville, Ohio the Apple rep there was giving away Apple T-Shirts and mouse pads.

Lucky...the Microcenter in VA wasn't giving out any Mac stuff. But they were giving a free 64MB flash drive with purchase. And that is much better than a lame dog tag. I'm sooo glad I went to MC instead of sweating at the Apple Store. No line at MC either. Everyone was at the Apple Store I guess. Suckers.

spice weasel
Oct 24, 2003, 10:32 PM
Just came back from my local Apple Store, where I talked a friend into buying a new 12" PB, and my girlfriend into buying the new 12" iBook. The store was packed -- when I left there was still a huge line. Nearly everyone had a copy of Panther in hand.

An interesting note: I asked the sales guy about the processor in the new iBooks, and he indicated that he thought it was actually the G3 with AltiVec, not the old Moto G4s used in the Rev. A PBs. Anyone hear anything about this? The clock speeds do seem a little odd for the old G4 chips. Then again, I never put much stock into what Apple Store sales people say.

dricci
Oct 24, 2003, 10:36 PM
My Pics of the Clarendon Event! (http://www.dricci.com/pantherclarendon/)

As you'll see, I IMed the presenter from one of the machines during his iChat presentation, unfortunately it didn't have an iSight hooked up, that would have been fun! They also had a rent-a-cop there, I guess to make sure there were no riots incase they ran out of copies of Panther!

All in all, it was pretty fun. They could have organized their checkout line a little better, there were two "lines" (although lines are usually straight) and nobody was really sure if they were for checking out or just people standing there. Also, it seems like the Tysons event last year had more people.

Spades
Oct 24, 2003, 10:37 PM
The two easiest ways to identify the iBook G4 is the slot-loading drive and the fact they're clearly labeled as "iBook G4" instead of just "iBook" as on the G3s. I did get a chance to use a 12" iBook G4 and a 14" iBook G3 side by side. The G4 was definitely snappier, even if it was 100 MHz slower. Just look at the genie effect on the two. It always chugged on my iBook G3, but on the iBook G4 it was smooth. I overheard one of the salespeople saying they didn't have the 14" in stock, but the 12" was ready to go. Too bad for anybody that wanted a 14", but at least it let me do a quick comparison.

Originally posted by foofan
One of the main reason why I went was because I wanted to try the new iBook G4's. Many people were using them, but I wasn't sure they weren't really G3's even though there were signs on the table that said G4. When I looked under the "about this mac" feature every iBook in the store was a G3 running panther. People in store were surprised. That's my only dissappointment.

alia
Oct 24, 2003, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by jxyama
i just got back from novi, MI apple store with a brand new eMac. i got 10% off, but not with edu. discount. you can only get one or the other...

you also get 10% discount if you purchase panther at full retail price, $129. apple store here wasn't selling panther at $69 (edu discounted). instead, i was told to go order online.

dog tags are the only things given away... if you purchase anything small, you get those in a little different bag from usual, paper bag is the usual, i think. cloth-like material, white, laundry bag with silver apple design.

also, new lower priced eMacs and G4 iBooks were there... but on the attachment to the iMac giveaway entry sheet was eMac listed at available "starting at $899" including the 10% discounting, meaning it's the old priced $1,000 eMac... perhaps apple decided to drop the eMac prices the last second...

They gave me BOTH! I got the 10% and the edu discount... 15" powerbook with superdrive for $2036!!! YES!!!! Going to go open i now!

cgmpowers
Oct 24, 2003, 11:12 PM
A part of me really wanted to go up to my local Apple Store but between being busy installing OS X 10.3 myself (got it by FedEx this morning) and partly not liking big crowds & also not wanting to spend any more money on cool Mac Toys.....I decided to stay home and reinstall everything on my machines..

However, that being that, I wouldn't have minded a mousepad.. :)

Originally posted by Spades
The two easiest ways to identify the iBook G4 is the slot-loading drive and the fact they're clearly labeled as "iBook G4" instead of just "iBook" as on the G3s. I did get a chance to use a 12" iBook G4 and a 14" iBook G3 side by side. The G4 was definitely snappier, even if it was 100 MHz slower. Just look at the genie effect on the two. It always chugged on my iBook G3, but on the iBook G4 it was smooth. I overheard one of the salespeople saying they didn't have the 14" in stock, but the 12" was ready to go. Too bad for anybody that wanted a 14", but at least it let me do a quick comparison.

lmalave
Oct 24, 2003, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by kenkooler
This is from Mexico :p
They had an incredible Panther presentation

Niiiiiiice!!! Babes in vinyl - Kinda the thing you'd expect at a video game convention or something, not at a Mac store :p

lmalave
Oct 24, 2003, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by tsmit
So i geeked out and snagged some pics of the Cambridgeside store. Some are wicked blurry, because, well, they were taken with my phone. But still, you get the idea:

Cambrdigeside, Boston MA (http://tsmit.home.comcast.net/pictures/bospanther)

Ahhh, Cambridgeside....reminds me of my days at MIT. Back then I scoffed at the few Mac users (MIT was mostly Unix, at least back then). I wonder how popular Macs are at MIT now that they have OS X? I would imagine there's a high percentage of Linux users at MIT and a rapidly increasing percentage of OS X users, but that's just a guess.

just a thought
Oct 24, 2003, 11:21 PM
Microcenter, Chicago: No line, a sorry air of anti-climax, plus a free 64 meg flash memory thing, T-shirt, AND mousepad.

All in all, not a bad haul, even if it had the festive atmosphere of a poorly-attended wake.

jxyama
Oct 24, 2003, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by alia
They gave me BOTH! I got the 10% and the edu discount... 15" powerbook with superdrive for $2036!!! YES!!!! Going to go open i now!

nice! for me, it was just the lowest eMac so the additional saving would have been nice, but not overwhelming... ($50+)

congrats and enjoy!

KBFinFan
Oct 24, 2003, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by alia
They gave me BOTH! I got the 10% and the edu discount... 15" powerbook with superdrive for $2036!!! YES!!!! Going to go open i now!


AWESOME! Congratulations on an awesome machine and a great deal!:D

bretm
Oct 24, 2003, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by alia
They gave me BOTH! I got the 10% and the edu discount... 15" powerbook with superdrive for $2036!!! YES!!!! Going to go open i now!
__________________
Patiently waiting for Albook 15" and some cash to fall in my lap.



Time to change your sig I guess, huh?

geerlingguy
Oct 24, 2003, 11:34 PM
At the store right now! :D

retrovirus
Oct 24, 2003, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by tsmit
[B]So i geeked out and snagged some pics of the Cambridgeside store.
tsmit, I was amused to see myself in a couple of your blurry photos. Did the security give you trouble? They were harassing some Apple Store guys for trying to take pictures of the line... All in all, I got there at 7-ish and didn't have to wait too long once the doors opened. Reading other people's posts, I'm glad we didn't have to wait outside like some did.

thogs_cave
Oct 24, 2003, 11:57 PM
Came home from an afternoon drive to find my 10.3 5-pack on the doorstep. I'm typing this on my "naked cube", a modified 450MHz cube with a Radeon 7000 and 1.25G of RAM.

Performance is snappy, and so far the "upgrade" option hasn't trashed anything. I will spend some more time with it tomorrow, but this seems to be the smoothest upgrade I've done in some time.

kingtj
Oct 25, 2003, 12:07 AM
The Apple Store in West County was well attended. I got there around 7:35PM and they had quite a long line waiting to get in. I was expecting maybe 30 or 40 people, but it was more than double that.

I asked about getting a combo student discount and the 10% off and two different people told me "Nope, it's only one or the other." So if you got both, I really don't think that was supposed to happen. Someone is gonna be kinda pissed when they do their bookkeeping later. Hehe....

I wish I thought to drop in at my local Best Buy and CompUSA. They were on my ride back home, but I didn't even realize they might also be giving things away. Wonder if one of 'em will still have a mousepad to give me tomorrow?

I did, however, go all out and picked up one of the only dual 2Ghz G5 towers they had in stock! Now, I just have to make sure I can get my dual 1.42Ghz G4 sold to help pay for this puppy! Even with the 10% off, it's quite a chunk on my credit card!

blackbones
Oct 25, 2003, 12:11 AM
I went down to Springboard Media in Philadelphia, one of two downtown stores having a launch event. Pretty good turn out it seemed, free pizza, djs, demos of panther and also a person on hand giving demos and tips of Final Cut 4.

The give-aways though seem to be the best reported so far. With purchase of Panther, you got your mouse pad, and a $20 gift certificate. Purchase also entered you to win a $100 gift certificate and an iPod.

benoda
Oct 25, 2003, 12:29 AM
AAARRRRGHHH!!

My FedEx shipment didn't come today!?!?!

I called FedEx only to find out that it will show up tomorrow.....looks like I'll at least get my shipping charge back, but it still sucks.

Stella
Oct 25, 2003, 12:48 AM
Got my copy at 8pm.

My friends thought I was extremely sad in rushing to buy an OS...

Anyway, well worth the money. The interface is extremely nice and performance is better - I have a G3 iBook 800.

The Finder is a breath of fresh air, and expose is just, well, brilliant.

astern
Oct 25, 2003, 12:53 AM
Pictures (http://userwww.sfsu.edu/~astern/panther.htm) of the line at the Emeryville in the SF Bay Area. There were crazy amounts of people in line!!!

Enjoy!

Samo
Oct 25, 2003, 01:00 AM
This year there was just one line around the block at the SoHo store, instead of two for Jaguar. I arrived fairly close to 8:00, and even then it was 20 minutes wait to get in.

This store was giving out wrapping paper designed by Rex Ray and the dog tags, and at various points they pitched out black t-shirts. Somehow I managed to miss out on the tags and the shirt. Must have been the distraction of buying this new PowerBook G4 15-inch 1.25 Ghz. It's a beautiful machine, and sweeter still at 10% off (which covered the AppleCare too).

FYI, Panther was not pre-installed on it.

Rower_CPU
Oct 25, 2003, 01:03 AM
UTC Store (San Diego) (http://homepage.mac.com/robin_martin/PhotoAlbum7.html)

A very good turnout out for the double event. :)

BrandonRP0123
Oct 25, 2003, 01:09 AM
Much like last year - the mousepad and t shirt will nominally for non-apple owned retail stores selling the goods.

I bought Jaguar from a mac shop local to me and got the t shirt + mousepad + .mac plastic CD holder. I was told by friends who went to the actual apple store that evening that they got none of the above.

fuge
Oct 25, 2003, 01:22 AM
I'm using my PC to post this because I'm installing Panther right now.

I went to the Bellevue (Seattle) Apple Store. Everyone who went in to the Apple store got dog tags, purchase wasn't required.

Also, didn't see this elsewhere but the store was giving away an iMac to one winner out of all those that came to the Panther Event. The guy at the front said about 175 people had come and when I left it looked like another 100 were waiting to get in.

I'm not hopeful but those odds are better than lotto. :D

peteMG
Oct 25, 2003, 01:26 AM
Got back from the Burlingame store a little while ago. The line was about 150 feet down the block, but it was a beautiful warm evening so everybody was enjoying themselves. Got in at about 8:20, and after lusting over the new 15" powerbooks, (don't tell my TiBook! It'll be jealous!) I ended up getting an iSight and Panther. I had seen the iSight in action before, but now that I can really use it, I'm really, really impressed.

So, after that thrill wears off, I'm gonna have to think about installing Panther. 10.2 has been pretty good for me, so I may break tradition and just do an upgrade install; I'll probably wait til tomorrow to see what the damage reports say.

voicegy
Oct 25, 2003, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
I'm standing in line at the UTC (San Diego) opening...soooooo much geekiness. :D ;)

UTC? Thought Fashion Valley was the only one in San Diego...shows how much *I* know!

Fashion Valley was great...total geekfest, of course..lots of fun to take the metal plate off of the G5's and look at the innards...most impressive! And, of course, I got my dog tags!:D

Rower_CPU
Oct 25, 2003, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by voicegy
UTC? Thought Fashion Valley was the only one in San Diego...shows how much *I* know!

Fashion Valley was great...total geekfest, of course..lots of fun to take the metal plate off of the G5's and look at the innards...most impressive! And, of course, I got my dog tags!:D

UTC just opened tonight, so technically you were correct up until 8:00 pm. ;)

voicegy
Oct 25, 2003, 01:50 AM
Ha! Well, you beat me, then. An opening of a new store AND Panther release...I bow to your greatness. :)

I got a little extra bonus, however, not knowing about the UTC event; I ran into my favorite School Board member, Fran Zimmerman. (www.franzimmerman.com) I once went to her house to fix her printer...which was connected to her iMac. Bless her heart..she's a Mac geek!:D

Rower_CPU
Oct 25, 2003, 01:53 AM
Fair enough. We'll call it even.

It's nice to know we have people in high places in the district. ;)

MacManDan
Oct 25, 2003, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by lmalave
Ahhh, Cambridgeside....reminds me of my days at MIT. Back then I scoffed at the few Mac users (MIT was mostly Unix, at least back then). I wonder how popular Macs are at MIT now that they have OS X? I would imagine there's a high percentage of Linux users at MIT and a rapidly increasing percentage of OS X users, but that's just a guess.

Many people here at MIT use Macs now. In fact, of my friends, MORE than half of them own at least a Mac, and many of those use them as primary computers. Quite a bit of Linux users, and Windows is the focus of many jokes around here (especially in the I/S department, where I work part-time). Unfortunately, course 6 still is mostly Windows-based, so I had to buy Virtual PC :(

At the beginning of the year, a small set of my friends and I got together for a "PowerBook party" .. (see attached picture .. I'm the one on the far left).

Anyway, back on topic .. the CambridgeSide one was fairly good. There was quite a line (as with most stores, I'm sure) and the dog tags are pretty cool. I just bought my copy of Panther on the education store and I can't wait to get it next week!

pbooktebo
Oct 25, 2003, 02:07 AM
I'm just back from the Palo Alto store, and the event was wonderful.

I didn't go in for Panther, as I couldn't get the edu discount (will get it at the Stanford Bookstore tomorrow).

I went with a friend who used to work on the OS 9 team from Apple, and he pointed out tons of pretty high up folks who were there (The grandpappy of plain talk was doing card tricks outside for those waiting in line, several of the top OS X people were there, etc.).

The lines were much better handled, and my friend only had to wait a few minutes to purchase Panther (vs. my 2 1/2 hour wait last year for Jag).

Nice stuff all around, and a set of dog tags just for showing my face.

PowerCase
Oct 25, 2003, 02:08 AM
Yeah! Should have went to Seattle with fuge....CompUSA was snoring bout 8 pm or what ever time they close. I don't know why Apple even bothers with them. They are as usefull to a seasond mac enthusiast as MicroSoft!!!

I will NEVER make the trip to a CompUSA- joke-of-a-store again!!! :mad:

Giaguara
Oct 25, 2003, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by jxyama
if you purchase anything small, you get those in a little different bag from usual, paper bag is the usual, i think. cloth-like material, white, laundry bag with silver apple design.

no, that is the normal bag, at least in north michigan ave.

Giaguara
Oct 25, 2003, 02:12 AM
Originally posted by beware_phog
So tonight only?!! I mean, heck, my wife just had a baby today....that should be an excuse to get the discount tomrrow as well, right?

well, shouldn't you just have run from the hospital to get the copy of pantehr for the baby? :confused:

congrats.

Giaguara
Oct 25, 2003, 02:12 AM
Originally posted by just a thought
Microcenter, Chicago: No line, a sorry air of anti-climax, plus a free 64 meg flash memory thing, T-shirt, AND mousepad.

All in all, not a bad haul, even if it had the festive atmosphere of a poorly-attended wake.

aww, microcenter, where in chicago??? no tees or mousepads in michigan ave ..

restiffbard
Oct 25, 2003, 02:13 AM
Went up to Richmond with my friend who just got his first Mac, a Powerbook 12 in., on Monday. Got there around 9:00. It was nice, cold though. No problem for the dedicated. Picked up Panther and the Cat-Tags. They're not dog tags. Dog tags are for dogs. I've got a Panther damn it.

Friend of mine drove down from Fairfax since Tyson's is closed and it was a chance to be a bunch of geeks sitting around with Powerbooks and iBook, mine. The folks at Short-Pump are a great bunch.

The place was packed with a security guard standing by to make sure they didn't overcrowd and break fire-code. The line moved pretty swiftly though.

Stayed till almost 11:00. Got home, installed Panther. So much faster. Preview alone is worth it if you ask me. It loads PDFs faster than you can blink, seriously fast.

Phil Of Mac
Oct 25, 2003, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by jamka
somebody a few posts up already said you can't do edu and 10% it's one or the other

This is relatively standard with any discount. Read the fine print--there's a very standard "not to be combined" clause.

Mindcrime
Oct 25, 2003, 05:34 AM
The apple stores in Taiwan sold out in literally 10 minutes. That's because they only had 3-5 copies per store, with a total of 50 copies for the entire island. There was no discount for anything in the stores either, just a free mouse pad and a free shirt.

They're not going have more copies on the island until next week. So, for me Panther night was big fat bust for me cuz I couldn't get a copy.

Chris

Sailfish
Oct 25, 2003, 06:42 AM
"I'm standing in line at the UTC (San Diego) opening...soooooo much geekiness."


Tell me about it, and the glassy eyed zombie look as well.

I never felt so cultish since my early church going days. Do they pump subliminal messages? My frontal lobe is sore.

I got my 10% discount, now I'll have to spend it on therapy with a large orgie party and become "cool" again.

I'm sure it's not always like that at the Apple Store, just these "celebrations" that bring the most dedicated zealots out.

I am displeased that Apple Stores don't accept personal checks allow them to clear and then release the merchandise to the customer. (I transfered money the day before and it would be available Monday for processing)

Some checks have security features that won't allow "instant" purchases because even stores can be crooked now a days.

If it ain't "instant" they don't allow the transaction, which is stupid. Now I have to make a special trip to my bank on a Saturday and drive 3 hours to the Apple Store.

lmalave
Oct 25, 2003, 07:17 AM
Originally posted by MacManDan
Many people here at MIT use Macs now. In fact, of my friends, MORE than half of them own at least a Mac, and many of those use them as primary computers. Quite a bit of Linux users, and Windows is the focus of many jokes around here (especially in the I/S department, where I work part-time). Unfortunately, course 6 still is mostly Windows-based, so I had to buy Virtual PC :(


Course 6 mostly Windows??!!?? :(

Oh man, I thought they'd be the last ones to go. I thought maybe course 15 might be tempted to run Windows, but everyone else would be still be solidly in Unix? So if classes require the use of Windows, does that mean there's Windows machines on Athena nowi?!!?? What's the mix of machines on Athena?

Man, when I was course 6 (6.1, class of '96), *everything* was in Unix, including all of Athena. Mostly Sun stations. And Course 6 had their own lab(s) with high-powered HP stations. Only a fraction of students had their own PCs (maybe 1/3), since Athena was so good, and those PCs were mostly for gaming. There were a few macs, mostly brought over from high school, and a few Linux users (people ported the Athena environment and login to Linux fairly easily).

Anyways, rock on.

Zech Marquis
Oct 25, 2003, 07:21 AM
But I had to work late :-( So there was no way for me get to the Richmond, VA store at all (especially when I was half asleep at the wheel). But I'l go to the CompUSA in norfolk, give panther a test drive, and see if they have the new G4 iBooks. I'm debating if I should go ahead and buy Panther ina few more weeks (before Thanksgving), or just save up and get an iBook with Panther installed (or the emac, since it's a real bragain wit lots of firepower). Which way sould I go guys?

1macker1
Oct 25, 2003, 07:39 AM
I agree, i went to my local CompUsa around 9 pm and they had no clue that Panther was released at 8. :(
Originally posted by PowerCase
Yeah! Should have went to Seattle with fuge....CompUSA was snoring bout 8 pm or what ever time they close. I don't know why Apple even bothers with them. They are as usefull to a seasond mac enthusiast as MicroSoft!!!

I will NEVER make the trip to a CompUSA- joke-of-a-store again!!! :mad:

Rod Rod
Oct 25, 2003, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by Giaguara
aww, microcenter, where in chicago??? no tees or mousepads in michigan ave ..

Hi Giaguara. Here's where the Chicago stores are (city and suburbs):

http://www.microcenter.com/at_the_stores/chicago.html

http://www.microcenter.com/at_the_stores/westmont.html

Now that Panther's out, will you change your name to Pantera?

:)

I went to the Oak Brook Apple store. The other store visitors were friendly. I should have dropped by the Micro Center in Westmont though.. it's not far from Oak Brook.

chacha75
Oct 25, 2003, 08:47 AM
Hi all,

I went to one of our local stores, Sakura-ya, in Ikebukuro (near where I live) and bought my copy of Panther. Got a nice Apple-logo ink pen as the free gift.

Pen or no pen, I am very happy with the new os. I would say that my iBook G3 600 is pretty useless for all the cool effects (framerate of about 2 with Expose, 0 with fast user switching ) :( but Finder is very nice and speedy even on my machine.

I tried out the new iBook G4 with Panther today and found it very capable. I opened up about 30 Safari windows and tested out Expose and just a minor hit during the transition. 10 - 20 windows had no problems on the system. I do like the new iBook but I simply *hate* the gray material that is used for the palm rest. Even the few hours of use at the store and I could already see the crud buildup. the smooth metalic finish on my iBook does not have that problem. Oh well, rants aside, nice machine. :D

djjon
Oct 25, 2003, 09:06 AM
I looked at the pics from Carbon in Toronto but I think it is acctually busier on a regular Saturday morning!

MacJoe
Oct 25, 2003, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by alia
They gave me BOTH! I got the 10% and the edu discount... 15" powerbook with superdrive for $2036!!! YES!!!! Going to go open i now!

Hmmmm.....I was at the Night of Panther at the Southpoint store in Durham, NC (drove 3 hrs from Hickory to be there) and I was told that the 10% discount couldn't be in addition to the edu discount (I'm a college prof). When we ran the numbers, we discovered that the edu discount IS 10%, and since my pre-ordered copy of Panther arrived earlier in the day I decided to go ahead and get a 12" G4 iBook and a 20G iPod. I'm VERY happy for ya, but I'll be miffed if I find I could have gotten an addition 10%. :-)

=pa=
Oct 25, 2003, 10:00 AM
I am PISSED. There are NO Apple stores in Canada! Not even (gasp!) Toronto! I went doen to my local dealer, Carbon Compting, ready to scoop up a G5 at a discount and they didn't even have the Panther demo set up. It took a while, but they eventually did a tour of the OS - but the guy running it said "we just got Panther yesterday, so you people probably know about as much about it as I do." They gave away 10 shirts and offered a 10% discount on books. Zero hardware discounts, justa bunch of people standing in line, waiting to cough up their $180.

Wait, I forgot. Some guy went around one time, handing out cookies.

blueflame
Oct 25, 2003, 10:47 AM
Was anyone really suprised at the new ibooks?
the grey looks great on them, and the keyboard feels amazing. better than the powerbooks in my opinion
Still, the powerbooks have class
Andreas

SoonToGetAMac
Oct 25, 2003, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by pbooktebo
I'm just back from the Palo Alto store, and the event was wonderful.

I didn't go in for Panther, as I couldn't get the edu discount (will get it at the Stanford Bookstore tomorrow).

I went with a friend who used to work on the OS 9 team from Apple, and he pointed out tons of pretty high up folks who were there (The grandpappy of plain talk was doing card tricks outside for those waiting in line, several of the top OS X people were there, etc.).

The lines were much better handled, and my friend only had to wait a few minutes to purchase Panther (vs. my 2 1/2 hour wait last year for Jag).

Nice stuff all around, and a set of dog tags just for showing my face.

Yeah, I had a great time at Palo Alto. Greg, one of the employees inside the store was incredibly cool and my friends and I just iSighted with other people around the store.:) I love how they clap everytime someone walked out and bought something...I was tempted to pick up a 17" PowerBook, but I saved $3000 and left with just my dog tags:cool: Good luck with the iMac entry, everyone!

SoonToGetAMac
Oct 25, 2003, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by blueflame
Was anyone really suprised at the new ibooks?
the grey looks great on them, and the keyboard feels amazing. better than the powerbooks in my opinion
Still, the powerbooks have class
Andreas That slot-loading drive alone is worth it. I've got an iBook 700 and that tray feels so flimsy I'm always worried I'm going to snap it off, but I do like the old style keys because that transluscence was cool.

kinless
Oct 25, 2003, 11:25 AM
My buddy and I waited in line for 2 hours, and we finally get to the counter and the girl tells us "Sorry, we don't accept student discounts on software. Go online to get it." Well, of course we ended up NOT buying it because $60 is a lot of money to us poor college students. I was taking a risk buying the software anyway because I own a Beige G3 and was counting on 3rd-party "fixes" to get it working.

I wish we would have known that BEFORE we went. Just 5 months earlier we went to the same store and got our edu discount on our iPods, so who was to think they'd reject us this time around?

And now I hear some stores accepted the edu + 10%! Stupid SCP. I shoulda gone to Fashion Island. -_-

Rower_CPU
Oct 25, 2003, 11:34 AM
kinless-
Same story at the UTC store: no edu discount on software. Kind of a bummer.

themadchemist
Oct 25, 2003, 12:00 PM
My friend and I took the El into Chicago to attend the event at the N. Michigan Ave. store, which is really an incredibly designed store, even compared to other Apple Stores. It's the first two-story one I've seen (but, remember, it's only the third one I've seen, the other two being in malls).

Waited for about 40 minutes to get in. When you walked in, there were two rows of Apple employees (about 50 total--I was surprised that there were so many). There were tubs filled with the dogtags, on either side.

As the first person in the line entered, the clapping commenced. They kept going until the last person had come through. They were probably clapping a total of five minutes. It was incredible. You walk about fifty feet to the huge staircase, flanked by all these Apple employees in their black Panther t-shirts in an uproar of applause...Very much the climax, and rather exhilirating.

Nicely done.

The Project Manager for Panther, I believe, was the one who conducted the presentation. He did a good job. My friend had his PB and showed up on the guy's iChat list. I tried to get him to send an message, but he wouldn't. Alas.

The video with the guy Omar was pretty good, too, until you watched it a second time, at which point he got annoying.

I wonder when we'll find out about who won the drawing...I imagine if you went to a middle-of-nowhere store, you'd be much better off, because they're giving away one computer per store, correct?

All in all, though, a fun and festive occassion that I thoroughly enjoyed.

Sonofhaig
Oct 25, 2003, 12:19 PM
I had $460 in Apple store gift certificates.
I fugured this would be a good night to get that ipod I've wanted. Splurged on the 20 gig version with dock. Looks great, and I save $40 on it. Of course I overpayed on the OS X. Probably could have gotten it cheaper elsewhere. But of couse you have shipping....... I guess I did OK. Anyway, I'm happy! It was great to see Mac fans like myself...:D

TrenchMouth
Oct 25, 2003, 12:21 PM
I have a question. I have a 500Mhz iBook that i plan on installing 10.3 on sometime in the next week, but since it only has a 10gig hd i have a 80gig firewire lacie. and since the gf unit has an iBook as well (much nicer than mine; 900Mhz), i like to be able to start up from my external on her computer and use it every now and then to do more cpu intensive work, like ripping 300 cds or playing some UT on the network and such.
so the point of this is, from a legal standpoint, should i purchase 2 copies of panther, or am i entitled to put it on more than one hard drive (not computer)?
i am sure its cool, but i just wonder about this from a technical standpoint.

wdlove
Oct 25, 2003, 12:27 PM
I attended the Panther release event at the Chestnut Hill Mall near Newton, MA. Arrived at 5:11pm. My wife had some issues with her iBook, so she got assistance from the Mac Genius. While waiting I got to look at the Panther in operation with some of the staff. It was there first time also.

We got in line at 7pm, my wife and I were first. She purchased a cinnamon raisin bagel an coffee to enjoy during the wait. She surfed the web also. We had a lot of shoppers walking up wondering what the line was about. A great opportunity to plug Apple. There were approximately 100 or so in line.

tsmit
Oct 25, 2003, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by retrovirus
tsmit, I was amused to see myself in a couple of your blurry photos. Did the security give you trouble? They were harassing some Apple Store guys for trying to take pictures of the line... All in all, I got there at 7-ish and didn't have to wait too long once the doors opened. Reading other people's posts, I'm glad we didn't have to wait outside like some did.

No way...you're in my pics! Thats funny. I was using my phone, so i don't think anyone even realized i was taking pictures. There's a picture up there of people inside the apple store, i was hard pressed to get that one. I thought people would swarm on me if they saw me. But, honestly, i want to know who the girl's name is in this picture:

girl on the left (http://tsmit.home.comcast.net/pictures/bospanther/slides/Image18.html)

dobbs
Oct 25, 2003, 01:34 PM
I went to CPUsed in Toronto. There was about 40 people there or so. No discounts on Panther or overall hardware but I did get a Lacie 160gb D2 for C$329. That's $100 cheaper than the competition at http://shop-csc.com/productinfo/price_lacie_harddrives.php

Gymnut
Oct 25, 2003, 01:46 PM
I attended the product releasing at the Apple store in Ala Moana despite the fact having received Panther and installing earlier in the afternoon. Lines were long and I was under the impression they were going to do a presentation of somesort but evidently not. The 10% discount was in effect but you had to buy Panther to be eligible for that. In any case I walked away happy with a Griffen Powermate which I now have pulsating on my desk:). Fantastic night to see a HUGE line of Mac loyal.

Totalshock
Oct 25, 2003, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
UTC just opened tonight, so technically you were correct up until 8:00 pm. ;)

Completely appropos of nothing... but are either of these Apple Stores in San Diego within a decent walking or cab distance from downtown?

I'm coming in on business next week, staying at the Manchester Grand Hyatt, and if I can get away from the conference for a few minutes, I'd like to check out an Apple Store, since they haven't quite got around to an Apple Store in Toronto yet.

groovebuster
Oct 25, 2003, 01:57 PM
I got my copy of Panther last night here in Berlin and I installed it today! I just love it! And my wife does too! :)

groovebuster

Rower_CPU
Oct 25, 2003, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Totalshock
Completely appropos of nothing... but are either of these Apple Stores in San Diego within a decent walking or cab distance from downtown?

I'm coming in on business next week, staying at the Manchester Grand Hyatt, and if I can get away from the conference for a few minutes, I'd like to check out an Apple Store, since they haven't quite got around to an Apple Store in Toronto yet.

The Fashion Valley store will be your best bet. It's a short cab drive from downtown (6 or so miles from the convention center). The trolley also has a stop at the mall.

Have fun!

areyouwishing
Oct 25, 2003, 02:13 PM
I got a panther mouse pad and the sims with some expansion pack from Alden Media, which is a new apple retailer here in Salt Lake City.

They didn't have any 12" Powerbooks, so I had to order that from the Apple Online store. :(

Einie
Oct 25, 2003, 02:25 PM
Jut to inform you how it was in Germany:
Just about 50 guys and girls were gathering at our biggest Apple dealer here in Bremen (Gravis) We weren´t getting many rabates! Not even thinking of 10 % off the price of a computer...
Though I went to a near pub and installes Panther there. Workes without any problems on every Mac I own.
Einie

contempt
Oct 25, 2003, 02:32 PM
Stood in line for about 30 minutes at the SoHo store. The line wrapped around the block and then some. The fun was hearing all of the geeks in line answer questions from the fashionistas who were walking around the area: "What's going on?" "They're launching a new operating system!" All them fashionistas had no idea what anyone was talking about!

The wrapping paper rocks! Picked up 4 rolls of them, plus several dog chains. Definitely would have loved the $20 gift certificates some of you guys mentioned. Oh well.

matthew24
Oct 25, 2003, 04:27 PM
I ordered a Powerbook BTO on the 6th, still waiting to receive it. (At a shop).
I don't know if it will come with Panther, when it comes I hope I will get a deal for a family-pack because I got a Powermac as well. So I need to continue with Jaguar for a little while.. :rolleyes:

senseibiz
Oct 25, 2003, 04:32 PM
I was the second one in line to get Panther, I also purchased The new ibook, and I purchased an emac for my daughters. with 10% discounts, i saved around $300. I was a good day

kirk26
Oct 25, 2003, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by senseibiz
I was the second one in line to get Panther, I also purchased The new ibook, and I purchased an emac for my daughters. with 10% discounts, i saved around $300. I was a good day

Looking to adopt? Daddy, I need a 40 iPod!

Doctor Q
Oct 25, 2003, 07:32 PM
First evidence of the next generation new processor?

This is an undoctored photo I took at the Panther Night event at The Grove in Los Angeles last night. Notice anything interesting in the bottom right corner?

The first person to correctly explain it gets 1,000 points.

(Sorry. The two members who I already told about it are not eligible.)

Bozola
Oct 25, 2003, 07:36 PM
The 'address' of the store in the mall..

MacH4X0r
Oct 25, 2003, 07:39 PM
ITS THE G-7 FLOORING! THE FUTURE OF SUPERCOMPUTING! FLOOR-MACs!

Phil Of Mac
Oct 25, 2003, 07:49 PM
It's a reference to the top 7 economic producing countries, the G-7.

Doctor Q
Oct 25, 2003, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by Bozola
The 'address' of the store in the mall.. I'll give you 900 points since you almost got it. But not exactly. Any more guesses?

eric_n_dfw
Oct 25, 2003, 08:07 PM
Anyone try Final Cut Pro 3 on Panther yet?

the_mole1314
Oct 25, 2003, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by restiffbard
Went up to Richmond with my friend who just got his first Mac, a Powerbook 12 in., on Monday. Got there around 9:00. It was nice, cold though. No problem for the dedicated. Picked up Panther and the Cat-Tags. They're not dog tags. Dog tags are for dogs. I've got a Panther damn it.

Friend of mine drove down from Fairfax since Tyson's is closed and it was a chance to be a bunch of geeks sitting around with Powerbooks and iBook, mine. The folks at Short-Pump are a great bunch.

The place was packed with a security guard standing by to make sure they didn't overcrowd and break fire-code. The line moved pretty swiftly though.

Stayed till almost 11:00. Got home, installed Panther. So much faster. Preview alone is worth it if you ask me. It loads PDFs faster than you can blink, seriously fast.

WOW YOU WERE THERE TOO!!! :D

Where were you? I was there all night! I really love the Apple Store Short Pump. Blair and James are the nicest people I've ever meet.

eric_n_dfw
Oct 25, 2003, 08:34 PM
In another thread I mentioned how the $20 Apple Store coupon I got for renewing my .mac subscription wasn't working on the Apple Store for Education.

Well, I just called the 800-MYAPPLE number and it is valid. Some screwup is keeping it from working via the web store.

Soooo, Panther for $49! :-D

VIREBEL661
Oct 25, 2003, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by kenkooler
This is from Mexico :p
They had an incredible Panther presentation

DUDE - What's with the two hot latin girls in patent leather at the door? Did they work for the Apple Store? I'm MOVING to Mexico City!:D

Just kidding - why not in America? damn......

brooklyn
Oct 25, 2003, 10:51 PM
Dude I'm vacationing in Mexico on the next OS release, The Menlo Park Mall Apple Employees looked like a bunch of Richard Simmons work-out video rejects wearing tight black (size XXX and still too small) Panther shirts.

maxterpiece
Oct 25, 2003, 11:37 PM
It's much much faster (I am on a G5 1.6 ghz with 1.25 gb ram)
It reset my preset browser to Safari (from Netscape - it runs real fast on a G5 !) That seemed very microsoft of apple. They could have at least asked if I wanted to do it. Safari, however, is much faster and is able to handle some java stuff that it couldn't before. I might have switched but I don't agree with the way it was forced on me.
the new window setup with the favorites and stuff on the left side of a window instead of on the top is nice but there's a whole bunch of wasted window real estate now where 10.2 used to have the favorites. It's just empty brushed metal. Apple should have either put some functionality there or else moved the window options to the left window area as well.
The way a program zooms up and fades away when you open it is cool and the way a file/folder shows that it is highlighted is nice.
The new safari and ichat seem much more stable.
I'm not sure how I feel about the way menus look now. They are still transparent but they look a little too clean and smooth - almost sanitized. That's another thing that makes me think MS.
Finder is by far the most improved as far as speed. Menus pop up much more quickly. Even on a G5 there was a bit of a delay when clicking a menu. I suppose there still is, but it's much snappier.

buffsldr
Oct 26, 2003, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
I'm standing in line at the UTC (San Diego) opening...soooooo much geekiness. :D ;)

Rower,
I was at the Fashion Valley store. I thought about going to the UTC one for the grand opening and the t-shirt, but it was too far from my hotel. As it was, I had to take the blue line from 5th ave to the mall at 10 pm. That was enough for me. How was it? Did you get a t-shirt?

Edit: Totalshock,
I too was in town on business. I assume you are going to be at the convention center? Plastic surgery conf? Anyway, I walked to the trolley station, and it drops you right at the mall, no problem. From the stop, walk towards the middle of the mall and there is your apple store. The entrance is accessible from the courtyard.

BigHairyBuds
Oct 26, 2003, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by themadchemist
My friend and I took the El into Chicago to attend the event at the N. Michigan Ave. store, which is really an incredibly designed store, even compared to other Apple Stores. It's the first two-story one I've seen (but, remember, it's only the third one I've seen, the other two being in malls).

Waited for about 40 minutes to get in. When you walked in, there were two rows of Apple employees (about 50 total--I was surprised that there were so many). There were tubs filled with the dogtags, on either side.

As the first person in the line entered, the clapping commenced. They kept going until the last person had come through. They were probably clapping a total of five minutes. It was incredible. You walk about fifty feet to the huge staircase, flanked by all these Apple employees in their black Panther t-shirts in an uproar of applause...Very much the climax, and rather exhilirating.

Nicely done.

The Project Manager for Panther, I believe, was the one who conducted the presentation. He did a good job. My friend had his PB and showed up on the guy's iChat list. I tried to get him to send an message, but he wouldn't. Alas.

The video with the guy Omar was pretty good, too, until you watched it a second time, at which point he got annoying.

I wonder when we'll find out about who won the drawing...I imagine if you went to a middle-of-nowhere store, you'd be much better off, because they're giving away one computer per store, correct?

All in all, though, a fun and festive occassion that I thoroughly enjoyed.
you live in wilmette, evanston, skokie, or a surrounding suburb? well i'm glad i didn't bother going to the store just for dog tags. do u know if they are honoring the edu discounts on software there? if so i'll be in tomorrow :D

voicegy
Oct 26, 2003, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by buffsldr
Rower,
I was at the Fashion Valley store. I thought about going to the UTC one for the grand opening and the t-shirt, but it was too far from my hotel.

Cool. I was at FV at 10:00 as well...figured I'd skip the long lines and go later on before midnight...saw a lot of equipment and copies of Panther goin' out the door!:D

Rower_CPU
Oct 26, 2003, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by buffsldr
Rower,
I was at the Fashion Valley store. I thought about going to the UTC one for the grand opening and the t-shirt, but it was too far from my hotel. As it was, I had to take the blue line from 5th ave to the mall at 10 pm. That was enough for me. How was it? Did you get a t-shirt?

...

It was pretty fun for me considering I have missed out on all previous events in town (Fashion Valley opening, Jaguar release, etc.). My fiancée and I (yes, she waited in line with me) both got shirts. :)

Interesting to see the new Myriad font spreading out into the shirts now, too. All the others I've seen are in Garamond.

Hope you had a good time here. How about our weather lately? :D

HybridTheory
Oct 26, 2003, 01:32 AM
Hey, I was also at the Apple Store UTC (La Jolla, CA) opening. Here are the pics I got:

http://vance.palioxis.com/2003_10_01_vanceblog_archive.html#106715222378861681

While I was in line, a father and daughter were walking by the Store and the father noted, "Huh, it seems the Disney Store is gone." The kid starts bawling - seriously. She cried for a solid 5 minutes, probably. Again, sad, but immensely funny. There you have it folks, a lifelong Windows user has just been created.

Iconocat
Oct 26, 2003, 01:36 AM
More of the same sort of pix from the event! I did manage to get one of the Segway at our event as well as my own Panther when I got home claiming my stuff as his own while I was doing my install. :)

Had a great time, too bad I didn't recognise anyone from the forum. I even saw posts from the store I was on the forum but couldn't find anyone. Anyone ever go to the local MUG meetings?

Pictures from Clarendon Apple Store event - Arlington, VA (http://homepage.mac.com/iconocat/PhotoAlbum1.html)

Phil Of Mac
Oct 26, 2003, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by Iconocat
More of the same sort of pix from the event! I did manage to get one of the Segway at our event as well as my own Panther when I got home claiming my stuff as his own while I was doing my install. :)

Had a great time, too bad I didn't recognise anyone from the forum. I even saw posts from the store I was on the forum but couldn't find anyone. Anyone ever go to the local MUG meetings?

Pictures from Clarendon Apple Store event - Arlington, VA (http://homepage.mac.com/iconocat/PhotoAlbum1.html)

Aww, how did you get your cat to pose like that!? Or did you just put the Panther CDs down next to where the cat was anyway? We have a couple cats back home. The grey one might stay still long enough for a picture, but not our black kitty.

Rower_CPU
Oct 26, 2003, 01:46 AM
HybridTheory-

You must have been up towards the front of the line (my assistant at work, mc68k, was about 20th in line and I can see him in one of your interior shots. I was back by Starbucks...

I think I overheard someone talking about the Disney store, too, but I don't recall any crying about it. ;)

Also, I noticed on your blog you mention that you're a "switch-backer" because of your slow iBook. What do you think about the new G4 iBooks? Pretty tempting, eh? Then you can ditch your HP laptop...:p

HybridTheory
Oct 26, 2003, 01:57 AM
Hell yeah, Rower,

For me, those little G4 iBooks are the most tempting product in Apple's line right now. Plus, I can get it with an educational discount for $999 (gotta have the combo drive :) http://bookstore.ucsd.edu/computers/hardware/apple.htm

But it's still a lot of money to drop when I already have a laptop. I actually won both the iPod and iBook in a contest, and traded the iBook for my roommate's HP. The HP has been giving me grief lately though. It's heavy, so I can't really carry it when I already have a pack full of books. Also, the battery has been acting strangely (I put the HP to sleep, but the battery drains to 0 once I open it up a few minutes later).

Iconocat
Oct 26, 2003, 02:36 AM
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Aww, how did you get your cat to pose like that!? Or did you just put the Panther CDs down next to where the cat was anyway? We have a couple cats back home. The grey one might stay still long enough for a picture, but not our black kitty.

When I was waiting on the install, I put my stuff on the floor to take a pic of it all.. and that's when my cat came up and plopped down on top of it. :) I thought it was too perfect!! His name is Lalas, btw.. he has a red tabby twin sister named Lexi.

meghop
Oct 26, 2003, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by kinless
My buddy and I waited in line for 2 hours, and we finally get to the counter and the girl tells us "Sorry, we don't accept student discounts on software. Go online to get it." Well, of course we ended up NOT buying it because $60 is a lot of money to us poor college students. I was taking a risk buying the software anyway because I own a Beige G3 and was counting on 3rd-party "fixes" to get it working.

I wish we would have known that BEFORE we went. Just 5 months earlier we went to the same store and got our edu discount on our iPods, so who was to think they'd reject us this time around?

And now I hear some stores accepted the edu + 10%! Stupid SCP. I shoulda gone to Fashion Island. -_-

Just to clarify, all Apple retail stores, regardless of location, give educational discounts on hardware only . To obtain educational software discounts, you always have to go online. That's the way it's been since the retail stores opened - I ordered my edu copy online and got it quickly, so here's hoping you get yours quick too. I thought I would tell you so you know for future purchases, sorry you couldn't buy it then. :)

wdlove
Oct 26, 2003, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by tsmit
So i geeked out and snagged some pics of the Cambridgeside store. Some are wicked blurry, because, well, they were taken with my phone. But still, you get the idea:

Cambrdigeside, Boston MA (http://tsmit.home.comcast.net/pictures/bospanther)

Nice pictures tsmit. I was at the CambridgeSide last year for the Jaguar opening. This year decided to go to the Chestnut Hill Mall because it's only about 10 minutes from my house and has free parking. I got in line at 7pm with my wife and we were first.

DesterWallaboo
Oct 27, 2003, 02:15 PM
Really dumb for them to charge for iChat. Feel a bit like they lured us into iChat so they could charge us for it later. Lame.

Rower_CPU
Oct 27, 2003, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by DesterWallaboo
Really dumb for them to charge for iChat. Feel a bit like they lured us into iChat so they could charge us for it later. Lame.

They said from the very beginning that it would be a pay update for Jaguar users once it went to the final version. How is that "luring"?

DesterWallaboo
Oct 27, 2003, 02:39 PM
No... I'm talking about iChat as a whole. I move over to iChat and dumped my other chat programs under 1.0... assuming that iChat would always be a free chat program. Lo and behold they release iChat AV and introduce not only new features, but a nice price tag with it as well. Lured you in with 1.0 so they can charge you on 2.0.

Rower_CPU
Oct 27, 2003, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by DesterWallaboo
No... I'm talking about iChat as a whole. I move over to iChat and dumped my other chat programs under 1.0... assuming that iChat would always be a free chat program. Lo and behold they release iChat AV and introduce not only new features, but a nice price tag with it as well. Lured you in with 1.0 so they can charge you on 2.0.

Ah, I see your point. I see it more as an OS-bundled app in that respect, so I don't have a problem with it. Buying Panther gets you iChat AV plus all the other new features...you actually save money! ;)

Phil Of Mac
Oct 27, 2003, 03:00 PM
If you stay with Panther and with iChat 1.0, you can continue to use it forever for no charge. Apple never promised you a free upgrade to the world's first viable and cheap video conferencing app.

DesterWallaboo
Oct 27, 2003, 03:09 PM
No... but one could easily draw the conclusion that it was the implication from Apple from the outset. Do you think they are going to start charging for Safari in the next few months? I mean, they have never said either way. Pretty much the same scenario as the way iChat was originally introduced as a free download.

Phil Of Mac
Oct 27, 2003, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by DesterWallaboo
No... but one could easily draw the conclusion that it was the implication from Apple from the outset.

Actually, it technically was. iChat was bundled with Jaguar and was not available for 10.1. iChat AV was not only bundled with Panther, it's even available for Jaguar, for a price. So things have actually improved on that front.

DesterWallaboo
Oct 27, 2003, 03:16 PM
Ahh... now I think you jogged my memory. I now believe you're right that iChat was introduced with Jaguar.

m.r.m.
Oct 27, 2003, 03:19 PM
i´m a total mac newbie (still waiting for his first powerbook), so please bear with me, but does ichat work like trillian in the sense that you can combine a couple of messaging programs (icq,...). all my friends use icq on the pc (as i do myself) and i was wondering if i could incorporate my contacts in some way. thanks.

DesterWallaboo
Oct 27, 2003, 03:23 PM
Actually... it only works with other iChat members and AOL Instant Messenger clients. It's nice for local area network messaging as it uses Rendezvous for painless finding of others using iChat on your network.

However, if you are looking for a program like Trillian under MacOS X you can use a tool called PROTEUS. Go to http://www.versiontracker.com and you can download the baby for free.

m.r.m.
Oct 27, 2003, 03:26 PM
cheers dester! :)

Phil Of Mac
Oct 27, 2003, 03:35 PM
iChat connects to AIM, which interconnects with ICQ.

m.r.m.
Oct 27, 2003, 03:40 PM
so i can use ichat on my mac to talk to people registered to icq? sorry if this is redundant.

Phil Of Mac
Oct 27, 2003, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by m.r.m.
so i can use ichat on my mac to talk to people registered to icq? sorry if this is redundant.

Yes, as long as they're using the latest ICQ client.

eric_n_dfw
Oct 30, 2003, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
In another thread I mentioned how the $20 Apple Store coupon I got for renewing my .mac subscription wasn't working on the Apple Store for Education.

Well, I just called the 800-MYAPPLE number and it is valid. Some screwup is keeping it from working via the web store.

Soooo, Panther for $49! :-D

Well, my credit card charge did not show the $20 discount so I called them back and now they tell me that the coupon is not usable on the Education store. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Luckily the guy I talked to was able to get his manager to approve a $20 refund to my card to make up for the confusion.

eric_n_dfw
Oct 30, 2003, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
Anyone try Final Cut Pro 3 on Panther yet? Replying to myself again! :)

It appears to work fine.

Doctor Q
Oct 31, 2003, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
Replying to myself again!I'm glad SOMEBODY is listening to you.

wdlove
Oct 31, 2003, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
Replying to myself again! :)

It appears to work fine.

Trying to answer yourself, not a good sign! :p On the other side who is more of an authority on your thoughts than you are?