George W. Bush thinks Obama isn't "worthy"

[Cleverboy]

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/11/654870.aspx
Perhaps lost in the news of Obama’s weekend victories and Solis Doyle stepping aside was President Bush’s broadside against Obama. “I certainly don't know what he believes in,” Bush told FOX’s Chris Wallace. “The only foreign policy thing I remember he said was he's going to attack Pakistan and embrace Ahmadinejad. I think I commented that in a press conference when I was asked about that.” Whoa, Nelly. Obama spokesman Bill Burton fired back with this statement: “Of course President Bush would attack the one candidate in this race who opposed his disastrous war in Iraq from the start. But Barack Obama doesn't need any foreign policy advice from the architect of the worst foreign policy decision in a generation.” Talking to folks who know Bush well say he just doesn't believe Obama's earned it; that he's worthy. He has a lot more respect for Clinton and apparently would be more comfortable seeing her or McCain as his heir than Obama.Crap. Obama's done for if President Bush doesn't think he can do it. Man... and he would even prefer Clinton. Can't exactly argue with genius, people. :rolleyes:

~ CB

[Neutral Gamer]

Cleverboy, your name doesn't do you justice; you're just another left wing loonie liberal idiot who hasn't got a clue about the real world.

You're supporting Barrack HUSSEIN Osama - a self confessed Muslim loving potential terrorist and black racist churchgoer?! I hope you're not American cos you're nothing but an unpatriotic bas***d!

George W. Bush stands for something; he cares about his country and courageously setup the War on Terror to protect the greatest country on earth and its people. If it had been up to Barrack Hussein this country would've been overrun with Muslims by now and Sharia law would be the norm. You should be bowing down and thanking him for his bravery rather than mocking him. Remember the American people, thank God, voted for him TWICE in a row; because he makes them feel safe and secure.

Bush has substance. What does Hussein have? Wishy washy speeches about "change". The guy hasn't got a clue and has no experience. He's all talk and nothing else; hell you'd swear he was leading a civil rights movement rather than a political campaign. If he comes to power the ordinary white, hard working American worker will become a second class citizen in his own country with liberal ideas of "positive" discrimination giving minorities the upper hand.

When the Democraps make this country bankrupt with their reckless spending of American tax payers' money on social reforms for the lazy and immigrants then you'll be wishing for Bush. Don't let it happen people! Vote Republican if you want this country to stay great. Vote for Barrack Osama bin Laden if you want Ahmadinejad to be your next vice president.

God bless America, God bless George W. Bush and God bless the GOP!

(End Sarcasm)

[Cleverboy]

Cleverboy, your name doesn't do you justice; you're just another left wing loonie liberal idiot who hasn't got a clue about the real world. [--SNIP--] God bless America, God bless George W. Bush and God bless the GOP!
(End Sarcasm)
"Well, that hurts my feelings... but I'll try to go on."

~ CB :p

[Queso]

That ought to be worth a few more votes. Looks like this thing is Obama's to lose :)

[leekohler]

Wow! Bush really doesn't have very good handlers. Someone really needs to tell him to **** once in a while. Bush doesn't like him? Then Obama must be doing something right.

[atszyman]

Well, Obama's campaign did fire back at one big misstatement in that in that interview...

link (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/11/obama-slams-bush-after-bush-misstates-his-foreign-policy-positions/)

“I certainly don’t know what he believes in. The only foreign policy thing I remember he said was he’s going to attack Pakistan and embrace Ahmadinejad.”

“Of course President Bush would attack the one candidate in this race who opposed his disastrous war in Iraq from the start. But Barack Obama doesn’t need any foreign policy advice from the architect of the worst foreign policy decision in a generation,”

[ErikCLDR]

You have to give bush credit. No matter how many people tell him something is a bad idea he has the integrity do to what he believes... even if it will never work :D

[PlaceofDis]

You have to give bush credit. No matter how many people tell him something is a bad idea he has the integrity do to what he believes... even if it will never work :D

i wouldn't call that integrity. i would call that foolishness, shortsighted, stubborn, and recklessness.

[kainjow]

Does anyone really care what Dubya says anymore?

[Eraserhead]

^^ Well, yes die hard republicans, but they won't vote for Obama anyway.

[IJ Reilly]

Does anyone really care what Dubya says anymore?

I'm sorry, did he say something?

[Cleverboy]

Interesting, its amazing to look at the degree
of discourse going on about these dust-ups:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802110006?f=h_latest

~ CB

[zioxide]

nobody cares what the monkeys think

[stevegmu]

Does anyone really care what Dubya says anymore?

Apparently some are obsessed. After all, I thought B. Obama was running against H. Clinton, not President Bush.

[carbonmotion]

Wow! Bush really doesn't have very good handlers. Someone really needs to tell him to **** once in a while. Bush doesn't like him? Then Obama must be doing something right.

I always though Bush would make an adorable cat. Like garfield, except spouting fascism.

[Queso]

Apparently some are obsessed. After all, I thought B. Obama was running against H. Clinton, not President Bush.
Someone needs to tell Bush that.

[stevegmu]

Someone needs to tell Bush that.

Really? How has President Bush campaigned against B. Obama? His comments weren't unsolicited. He was asked a question, and answered.

[skunk]

He was asked a question, and answered.A simple "no comment" would have been the appropriate answer.

[Much Ado]

(End Sarcasm)

And for a minute there i thought you were Swarmlord reincarnated.

[stevegmu]

A simple "no comment" would have been the appropriate answer.

Then he would have been attacked for not commenting.

[Eraserhead]

Then he would have been attacked for not commenting.

He shouldn't comment, its like the Queen commenting on an upcoming election.

[Ugg]

Then he would have been attacked for not commenting.

WHAT??????

You seem to be rather paranoid.

It's really not the place for sitting presidents to attack or promote presidential candidates. His job is to govern, something he's singularly failed to do.

[stevegmu]

He shouldn't comment, its like the Queen commenting on an upcoming election.

It is also bad form for former Presidents to attack current Presidents, but that hasn't stopped Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton, has it? I seem to have missed the thread on here attacking them.

[JSchwage]

Just another reason why George Bush has turned out to be a wolf in sheep's clothing.

[Much Ado]

It is also bad form for former Presidents to attack current Presidents, but that hasn't stopped Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton, has it? I seem to have missed the thread on here attacking them.

See, it's not their job to be, you know, running the country and minor things like that.

A Head of State has many obligations to fulfill, whereas an ex-President can say what he wants. Bush's sole duty should be towards governing his country, not taking political snipes.

[Eraserhead]

It is also bad form for former Presidents to attack current Presidents, but that hasn't stopped Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton, has it? I seem to have missed the thread on here attacking them.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

However the issue here is that there is an election for Obama coming up, whereas I believe Bush was already on his second term when they criticised him which makes what they did less bad.

[Cleverboy]

He shouldn't comment, its like the Queen commenting on an upcoming election.It is also bad form for former Presidents to attack current Presidents, but that hasn't stopped Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton, has it? I seem to have missed the thread on here attacking them.It doesn't look like you read very well. No one here has said much of anything about Presidents attacking Presidents. Presidents distorting comments about candidates still in the electoral process is something different. I personally think he struck the right tone when he referred to McCain in general terms (saying that the Republican party needs to rally around the nominee). Unless you're naive, its pretty obvious Bush's comments were worded to be inflammatory.

~ CB

[IJ Reilly]

I don't know if it's bad form or inflammatory, but I do think remarking on the candidates, particularly from the other party, tends to emphasize Bush's irrelevance to this process.

[stevegmu]

It doesn't look like you read very well. No one here has said much of anything about Presidents attacking Presidents. Presidents distorting comments about candidates still in the electoral process is something different. I personally think he struck the right tone when he referred to McCain in general terms (saying that the Republican party needs to rally around the nominee). Unless you're naive, its pretty obvious Bush's comments were worded to be inflammatory.

~ CB

It really isn't different. They are all politicians. I guess it wasn't bad form when B. Obama was attacking President Bush on the campaign trail? I guess it is ok to dish it out, but cry foul when it comes back around.

I don't know if it's bad form or inflammatory, but I do think remarking on the candidates, particularly from the other party, tends to emphasize Bush's irrelevance to this process.

Bush is obviously not irrelevant, given the amount of attention given to his words.

[stevento]

this obviously helps the obama campaign.
coming from bush, "obama is not worthy" sounds like "why is this black guy here?" to me.
not trying to play the race card, but that's what it looks like to me.

[IJ Reilly]

Bush is obviously not irrelevant, given the amount of attention given to his words.

Irrelevant to this process, as in lacking consequence, extraneous.

[Thomas Veil]

And for a minute there i thought you were Swarmlord reincarnated.I know. At first I thought we had another new troll. Thank god he was just being over-the-top ironic.

And speaking of irony, when I read that Bush considers Obama unworthy, my irony meter peaked so hard it shattered its case. Now I'm gonna have to get a new one.

[yg17]

I know. At first I thought we had another new troll. Thank god he was just being over-the-top ironic.

And speaking of irony, when I read that Bush considers Obama unworthy, my irony meter peaked so hard it shattered its case. Now I'm gonna have to get a new one.

I wish mine had only shattered its case. Mine blew up :eek:

[ReanimationLP]

I wish mine had only shattered its case. Mine blew up :eek:

At least yours wasnt nuclear powered. :( :D

[zioxide]

At least yours wasnt nuclear powered. :( :D

nucular

[yg17]

At least yours wasnt nuclear powered. :( :D

So that's where Iraq is hiding the WMDs :D

[KingYaba]

That ought to be worth a few more votes. Looks like this thing is Obama's to lose :)

>>NYT THURSDAY: Clinton's advisers acknowledged it would be difficult to catch up in race for pledged delegates even if she succeeded in winning 3 states on which she is most pinning her hopes: Ohio and Texas in March and Pennsylvania in April. Dem party's rules would be decided obstacle in efforts to catch up to Obama before voting phase of nominating process ends later in spring... Developing...

drudgereport.com

[Prof.]

Does anyone really care what Dubya says anymore?
I stopped listening to that fool of a president when he got elected for the second time.

[yg17]

I stopped listening to that fool of a president when he got elected for the second time.


He only got elected one time, the other time, he got appointed ;)

[it5five]

It is also bad form for former Presidents to attack current Presidents, but that hasn't stopped Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton, has it? I seem to have missed the thread on here attacking them.

So I see you think that ex Democratic presidents shouldn't "attack" anybody, as it is bad form.

I am awaiting your response condemning Bush for attacking a presidential candidate running in an election that relates to Bush in absolutely no way. I've seen you already jumped to his defense, but maybe you will re-consider your statement seeing as you hold a completely different opinion when it comes to Democratic presidents.

[solvs]

I don't think Bush realizes that people don't like him. This is only going to help Obama. As noted, the few people who still care what Bush says (not in the way we do, by commenting on them, but in the way that anyone would actually listen to and give credence to, for those who don't get the difference) probably wouldn't be voting for Obama anyway, but for those who don't like Bush, could actually give Obama a boost with those on the line. I don't care enough about what Bush says to start leaning Obama because of this, but I don't like Hillary either and don't plan on voting GOP this year, so if I do wind up having to vote for him, I guess this is something.

[JW8725]

isn't there some way you Americanos can just let Barak take over now, just so the rest of the world doesn't have to wait till next year?

[Zwhaler]

(sarcasm)
(End Sarcasm)

Whoa.. good thing I noticed the end sarcasm thing at the bottom because I was ready to tear into you so bad... :):)

[skunk]

isn't there some way you Americanos can just let Barak take over now, just so the rest of the world doesn't have to wait till next year?I fear the sooner he takes over, the sooner he will be offed. I doubt very much that an Obama presidency would run full-term. African-Americans are only allowed to play with the levers of power by invitation. It helps the white boys look good.

[Queso]

I fear the sooner he takes over, the sooner he will be offed. I doubt very much that an Obama presidency would run full-term. African-Americans are only allowed to play with the levers of power by invitation. It helps the white boys look good.
I have to confess I was similarly pessimistic when Nelson Mandela was released from Robben Island, yet look how that ended up. Sometimes things do actually turn out right in the end.

[MacRumorUser]

i wouldn't call that integrity. i would call that foolishness, shortsighted, stubborn, and recklessness.

Sums up his entire 'terms' (because like fools you voted him in twice) in office does it not! ;):):D

[skunk]

Sometimes things do actually turn out right in the end.Depends on your definition of "right", in both cases.

Sums up his entire 'terms' (because like fools you voted him in twice) in office does it not! ;):):DRemember, "we" voted in Blair twice. People in glass houses...

[arkitect]

Remember, "we" voted in Blair twice. People in glass houses...

Three times I think…
1997, 2001 and 2005…

[MacRumorUser]

Remember, "we" voted in Blair twice. People in glass houses...

I'm in Ireland I didn't vote for blair at all ;):p

*picks up stone and hurls again*

[skunk]

Three times I think…
1997, 2001 and 2005…True, but the first time was forgiveable...

I'm in Ireland I didn't vote for blair at all ;):p

*picks up stone and hurls again*Oops! :o

*ducks*

[arkitect]

True, but the first time was forgiveable...

I guess. :o

[IJ Reilly]

I fear the sooner he takes over, the sooner he will be offed. I doubt very much that an Obama presidency would run full-term. African-Americans are only allowed to play with the levers of power by invitation. It helps the white boys look good.

It seems your cynicism about the US knows no bounds. Even good things happen for bad reasons?

[Neutral Gamer]

And for a minute there i thought you were Swarmlord reincarnated.

Who is this mythical Swarmlord user? I tried searching for him on the Mac Rumors Members List but it didn't come up with anything; I assume he's some kind of right wing fundamentalist who used to give you lot trouble?

I know. At first I thought we had another new troll. Thank god he was just being over-the-top ironic.

Whoa.. good thing I noticed the end sarcasm thing at the bottom because I was ready to tear into you so bad... :):)

You know, I was originally gonna omit the "(End Sarcasm)" or put it in a really small size font just to see what the reaction would be. But then I had a feeling that if I tried to explain myself afterwards no one would've believed me!

The sad thing is that there's plenty of people out there who actually believe in the stuff I wrote; just check out the user comments on the FOX News website for a typical political news story. I love going to extreme right wing websites, such as the BNP (British National Party) here in the UK, it makes me realise how sane I am. :D

[Queso]

Who is this mythical Swarmlord user? I tried searching for him on the Mac Rumors Members List but it didn't come up with anything; I assume he's some kind of right wing fundamentalist who used to give you lot trouble?
Not really. He was quite pro-Bush, and liked war a lot because he had lots of Halliburton shares or something (;)), but in general he would stir up a thread into an interesting discussion. Occasionally he would sail very close to the wind with regards to forum rules, but I guess we all do that sometimes. I think one day he must just have gone too far.

[skunk]

It seems your cynicism about the US knows no bounds. Even good things happen for bad reasons?That's not my point at all, as I suspect you realise. If an Obama presidency comes about, it has tremendous potential for good (as has the US), but I fear that too many people of influence will believe that it's the end of "civilisation" as they know it (and wish it to be). I don't think it's cynicism, I think it's quite a sober judgment. PNAC was not the Project for an African-American Century, after all.

[IJ Reilly]

That's not my point at all, as I suspect you realise. If it happens, it has tremendous potential for good (as has the US), but too many people of influence will believe that it's the end of "civilisation" as they know it (and wish it to be). I don't think it's cynicism, I think it's quite a sober judgment. PNAC was not the Project for an African-American Century, after all.

You beg not to be judged cynical, but I think your explanation confirms a deep cynicism, at least as I read you. I have not heard anyone, let any "people of influence" suggest any "end of civilization" coming from an Obama presidency. In fact I would go further with the observation that I have not seen this level of enthusiasm for a presidential candidate in my lifetime.

[skunk]

In fact I would go further with the observation that I have not seen this level of enthusiasm for a presidential candidate in my lifetime.I am not denying the enthusiasm, indeed I share it. Nor would I expect anyone to voice their misgivings. It would make any future denial so much less plausible.

[IJ Reilly]

I am not denying the enthusiasm, indeed I share it. Nor would I expect anyone to voice their misgivings. It would make any denial so much less plausible.

I'm not sure I follow you, sorry. If you're suggesting that a President Obama would encounter political opposition, then of course this is true. If you are suggesting that this opposition automatically translates into a conspiracy to have him assassinated, then I believe I can safely rest my case for cynicism. I am also puzzled by your "white boys" remark. Is this not also a deeply cynical view? Virtually a dictionary definition I'd say.

[freeny]

In fact I would go further with the observation that I have not seen this level of enthusiasm for a presidential candidate in my lifetime.

There was a similar "buzz" when Bill Clinton was running for the first time against the first Bush. Bush was of course seen as the fourth term of Ronald Reagan.

[IJ Reilly]

There was a similar "buzz" when Bill Clinton was running for the first time against the first Bush. Bush was of course seen as the fourth term of Ronald Reagan.

Not like this, not the way I remember it. Clinton arrived on the national scene trailed by plenty of vocal political enemies from his years in Arkansas. A lot of people didn't like him from word one. Even Ronald Reagan, who got the juices flowing for many voters and won big as a result, was a polarizing figure right out of the box. I am simply not hearing this undercurrent of negativity about Obama, which I rate as a remarkable thing.

[skunk]

If you are suggesting that this opposition automatically translates into a conspiracy to have him assassinated, then I believe I can safely rest my case for cynicism.One person's cynicism is another person's misgiving.

[Roger1]

That's not my point at all, as I suspect you realise. If an Obama presidency comes about, it has tremendous potential for good (as has the US), but I fear that too many people of influence will believe that it's the end of "civilisation" as they know it (and wish it to be).

Maybe they will use all their influence to move to somewhere else (almost said Canada, but that's too close)?

[skunk]

Maybe they will use all their influence to move to somewhere else (almost said Canada, but that's too close)?But the US is God's Own Country, and we all know God is a Caucasian.

[IJ Reilly]

One person's cynicism is another person's misgiving.

Is it too much to ask for you to explain this remark?

As one of those "white boys" who is supporting Obama, I need to understand whether I am doing it for good reasons, or only to make me "look good."

[Prof.]

I have a strong feeling that Obama will be one of our greatest presidents since Lincoln.:cool:

[skunk]

As one of those "white boys" who is supporting Obama, I need to understand whether I am doing it for good reasons, or only to make me "look good."Come on, you must know I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the 1% who own 38% of your country.

Anyway, I'm not going to pursue this. I hope I'm wrong.

[Ugg]

Anyway, I'm not going to pursue this. I hope I'm wrong.

I hope you are too.

While I'm a Hilary supporter, I'm beginning to think that Obama is the one who has a real chance of healing the wounds of the past decade. He's really too centrist for my taste but, that's the way it is I guess.

The fact that bushco is so opposed to Obama is enough for me to support him.

[Eric Piercey]

He only got elected one time, the other time, he got appointed ;)

Naw, he was appointed twice lets face it.

[stevegmu]

Naw, he was appointed twice lets face it.

You have evidence of this?

[Prof.]

You have evidence of this?
I'm sure the ppl are just joking. Don't take things so seriously.:rolleyes:

[skunk]

You have evidence of this?You have a sense of humour?

[stevegmu]

You have a sense of humour?

I didn't think personal attacks were allowed.

[skunk]

I didn't think personal attacks were allowed.Were you attacked? :confused: I'm sorry to hear it. Who attacked you?

[Prof.]

I didn't think personal attacks were allowed.
If you keep it as a joke they're allowed. (I think:confused:)

[Much Ado]

I didn't think personal attacks were allowed.

You have a sense of perspective?

[Eric Piercey]

If I had proof I'd be on the network news if they'd even air it. I'd be on cable access spreading it all over my community though, you can darn well betcha. :) Tinfoil hat and all. From the posts I've read of your I'm pretty sure I could show you proof of something you didn't want to believe and you'd call it a hoax. Maybe if it met the 3 step right wing validation test you'd believe it. 1. Fox news says it, 2. Rush backs it up. 3. Hannidy (sp?) calls anyone who disagrees a commie pig.

PS I wasn't kidding at all- but I said it in the tongue in cheek rhythm of the thread.

[IJ Reilly]

Come on, you must know I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the 1% who own 38% of your country.

Anyway, I'm not going to pursue this. I hope I'm wrong.

I'm not worried about those people, either. The racism we do need to worry about is not a characteristic of that particular 1%.

No matter who you are talking about, I have to say, just to be perfectly blunt and honest, that this is still a very ugly and disturbing thought. It saddens me to think you believe that American society is so fundamentally twisted.

[skunk]

The racism we do need to worry about is not a characteristic of that particular 1%.What racism do we need to worry about, then? As for the 1%, their WASPish predominance has never been seriously threatened. Who knows what buried terrors and hiddeen prejudices might be unleashed if they ever feel endangered?
No matter who you are talking about, I have to say, just to be perfectly blunt and honest, that this is still a very ugly and disturbing thought. It saddens me to think you believe that American society is so fundamentally twisted.Not American society, particularly. Any society can become polarised.

[IJ Reilly]

What racism do we need to worry about, then? As for the 1%, their WASPish predominance has never been seriously threatened. Who knows what buried terrors and hiddeen prejudices might be unleashed if they ever feel endangered?

The WASP thing is seriously overrated as a force in American society. At one time maybe, but not any longer. Even President WASP himself had two black cabinet members. Is bigotry an issue in the US? Sure, as it is everywhere -- but I believe recent surveys suggested that more Americans have a problem voting for a Mormon than a black person.

Don't assume that the very prospect of a black president has any prospect of throwing this great WASP cabal which you seem to believe exists into fits and catalepsy, or that they've got hit men on speed-dial. I realize after seven years of George Bush it's easy to take a cartoonish view of American society, but please -- try to give us some credit.

[MacRumorUser]

I dream of the day when we will see

an unmarried, one armed, african american lesbian, single parent, martian abductee, shotgun owning, anti war protesting, lap dancing, far right-wing 'liberal' in the oval office.....

Then we should truly feel covered on all bases :D


Until then ....... :(

[Queso]

an unmarried, one armed, african american lesbian, single parent, martian abductee, shotgun owning, anti war protesting, lap dancing, far right-wing 'liberal' in the oval office.....
Booooo. You're prejudiced against the blind!!

[.Andy]

Booooo. You're prejudiced against the blind!!
Sight impaired :mad:

[Queso]

Sight impaired :mad:
Visually challenged?

[MacRumorUser]

Visually challenged?

Oooops... So I did...



an unmarried, visually impared, sonically challenged, one armed, african american lesbian, single parent, martian abductee, shotgun owning, anti war protesting, lap dancing, far right-wing 'liberal' dwarf in the oval office.....

Happy now... ;):D

[atszyman]

Oooops... So I did...



an unmarried, visually impared, sonically challenged, one armed, african american lesbian, single parent, martian abductee, shotgun owning, anti war protesting, lap dancing, far right-wing 'liberal' dwarf in the oval office.....

Happy now... ;):D

Don't for get the vertically and follicley challenged and horizontally gifted.....

[Queso]

Don't for get the vertically and follicley challenged and horizontally gifted.....
Nah, we've had short fat bald people before :D

[MacRumorUser]

Don't for get the vertically and follicley challenged and horizontally gifted.....

Alright... we'll get there in the end...


So what we are looking for is

an unmarried, morbidly obese, anorexic, visually impared, sonically challenged, one armed, slightly balding, toupee wearing, transgendered, african american lesbian, single parent, martian abductee, shotgun owning, anti war protesting, lap dancing, far right-wing 'liberal' dwarf on very high stilts in the oval office.....




Sad thing is .... I truly would love to see that person in the oval office :D

[atszyman]

Alright... we'll get there in the end...


So what we are looking for is

an unmarried, morbidly obese, anorexic, visually impared, sonically challenged, one armed, slightly balding, african american lesbian, single parent, martian abductee, shotgun owning, anti war protesting, lap dancing, far right-wing 'liberal' dwarf on very high stilts in the oval office.....




Sad thing is .... I truly would love to see that person in the oval office :D

you still skipped bald... with a bad toupee... and transgendered...

[MacRumorUser]

you still skipped bald... with a bad toupee... and transgendered...

LOL!! I edited my post after to reflect those too :D

So what we are looking for is

an unmarried, morbidly obese, anorexic, visually impared, sonically challenged, one armed, slightly balding, toupee wearing, transgendered, african american lesbian, single parent, martian abductee, shotgun owning, anti war protesting, lap dancing, far right-wing 'liberal' dwarf on very high stilts in the oval office.....

[atszyman]

an unmarried, morbidly obese, anorexic, visually impared, sonically challenged, one armed, slightly balding, toupee wearing, transgendered, african american lesbian, single parent, martian abductee, shotgun owning, anti war protesting, lap dancing, far right-wing 'liberal' dwarf on very high stilts in the oval office.....


They've got my vote, as long as he she they don't have brown eyes... can't trust people with brown eyes for the record, I have brown eyes, as to both of my daughters.

Oh, and he she they can't be left handed... can't trust them either.:D

[redAPPLE]

the verb 'thinks' comes after 'bush', clearly makes this a non-issue.

[solvs]

In fact I would go further with the observation that I have not seen this level of enthusiasm for a presidential candidate in my lifetime.
People really, really hate Bush right now. They just want it to be over already. Obama represents something new, and people are getting excited, like we do here when a new model is coming out. I'm worried some are going to be disappointed with him as well. We expect too much, even when the finished product is fairly decent and an improvement (sometimes a vast improvement) over the old model, I fear it won't live up to the hype. My expectations are low. Not trying to be cynical, just realistic. At this point, the bar's been set so low, almost anything seems better than what we got now. And who knows, maybe the hype will turn out to be true, though I'm not counting on it.

I too hope skunk is wrong, but can't help wondering if he isn't.

Who attacked you?
Haven't you been paying attention? Liberals! And you're from over the pond, so that's even worse. How dare you... whatever it is you said that was insulting. <insert righteous (American) indignation here> :mad: