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chem
Feb 13, 2008, 01:25 PM
Xcode 2.0: 29 Apr 2005 (Tiger)
Xcode 2.1: 6 Jun 2005 (WWDC)
Xcode 2.2: 10 Nov 2005

Update after 5 weeks, then after 5 months.

Xcode 3.0: 26 Oct 2007
Xcode 3.1: ???

No update after almost 4 months. Do we have to wait for the iphone SDK, or will that be stapled onto 3.0?

This a rumors website. Anyone have inside info or a decent rumor?



samh004
Feb 13, 2008, 01:33 PM
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The people that do probably won't say as they value their jobs more ;) :(

iSee
Feb 13, 2008, 02:58 PM
What are people looking for in 3.1? What should I be looking forward to? :)

(It's kind of a moot point for me, since I've barely scratched the surface of what's already available in XCode, but I'm just curious if power users are waiting for anything)

szark
Feb 13, 2008, 03:44 PM
I'd guess that if there is an update approaching, it will be released with the iPhone SDK.

elppa
Feb 13, 2008, 04:09 PM
Same place as Java 6!

Seriously I imagine the iPhone SDK is a major reason for any delays.

Imagine you are a manager:
Steve says iPhone SDK must be ready by end of February, presentation hall booked. Meanwhile you have no dates set for periodic xcode updates or Java 6.

You have a finite number of staff. Which project do you allocate them to?

chem
Feb 13, 2008, 06:12 PM
Same place as Java 6!


At least Java 6 is there in the ADC downloads. There's something to work with.

Catfish_Man
Feb 13, 2008, 07:35 PM
What are people looking for in 3.1? What should I be looking forward to? :)

(It's kind of a moot point for me, since I've barely scratched the surface of what's already available in XCode, but I'm just curious if power users are waiting for anything)

Nothing in particular that I can think of; just fixes and small improvements.

There does appear to be some very cool stuff planned, but it's more 4.0 or 5.0 time frame.

chem
Feb 13, 2008, 11:47 PM
there are various bugs in the linker, libGL issues, the slight chance that gcc 4.2 may be introduced as a new optional compiler suite (a dev preview is already available for it), and the possibility that Apple/UIUC's LLVM compiler (vers 2.2 just out) may be updated/included.

not to mention the inevitable dozens of bug fixes for any x.0 product. no big software project gets everything right the first try.

also, how about an official fortran plugin configurable for arbitrary compilers the user installs? I could only wish!

Cromulent
Feb 14, 2008, 03:08 AM
I'd just be happy if they fixed the bug with automatic downloading of document sets.

Eraserhead
Feb 14, 2008, 03:43 AM
They also haven't updated the documentation in ages. I also want a ValueTransformer template.

gnasher729
Feb 14, 2008, 05:23 AM
Xcode 2.0: 29 Apr 2005 (Tiger)
Xcode 2.1: 6 Jun 2005 (WWDC)
Xcode 2.2: 10 Nov 2005

Update after 5 weeks, then after 5 months.

Xcode 3.0: 26 Oct 2007
Xcode 3.1: ???

No update after almost 4 months. Do we have to wait for the iphone SDK, or will that be stapled onto 3.0?

This a rumors website. Anyone have inside info or a decent rumor?

Yeah, I have a decent rumor: People starting threads with insults like "Where the heck" are going back to the list. You won't get XCode 3.1 until February 2012. On the other hand, Apple will send XCode 3.2 to me next week because I posted this. :p

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The people that do probably won't say as they value their jobs more ;) :(

While I value my job more than the "fame" of leaking some inside information, there is also the reason that some people just have respect. If you find a colleague left his wallet on his desk, do you not take it because (1) you could lose your job if you were caught stealing, or (2) because it's his wallet and you are not a dirty thieving swine?

Cromulent
Feb 14, 2008, 07:29 AM
While I value my job more than the "fame" of leaking some inside information, there is also the reason that some people just have respect. If you find a colleague left his wallet on his desk, do you not take it because (1) you could lose your job if you were caught stealing, or (2) because it's his wallet and you are not a dirty thieving swine?

Comparing stealing a work mates wallet to leaking some information that you are not legally obliged to keep secret is taking it a bit far don't you think?

iSee
Feb 14, 2008, 08:27 AM
Yeah, I have a decent rumor: People starting threads with insults like "Where the heck" are going back to the list. You won't get XCode 3.1 until February 2012. On the other hand, Apple will send XCode 3.2 to me next week because I posted this. :p

LOL, MR would be a muuuuch more civil place if it worked like this! I shouldn't have read this post while taking a drink of my soda...
Heh, some people would be stuck with 18lb 300MHz iBook's, while others would have 8-core, 4Ghz MBAs.

Err, back on topic...

...and the possibility that Apple/UIUC's LLVM compiler (vers 2.2 just out) may be updated/included...


I just started reading about this. That would be pretty cool. It seems to offer the promise of apps optimized to their current running environment--even if that environment didn't exist when the app was created.

If I understand it, though, it would be most effective if the OS integrated LLVM --> native optmizers at various points (install time, program load, etc.) This makes me think this wouldn't come out 'til at least Mac OS 10.6.