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Keebler
Feb 13, 2008, 08:48 PM
Hi folks,
I use DVDStudio Pro, Toast, Final Cut Pro, Fotomagico (slideshow app) and bitvice often.
I have 3 GB and am thinking of filling the rest of the slots with 2 gb sticks for a total of 11 GBs.
Is that overkill? I just have the stock vid card as I'm waiting for a new one to come out?
Cheers,
Keebler
newtech
Feb 13, 2008, 08:52 PM
Is $1.000,000.00 too much money? Seriously More RAM = better, always when using video/audio apps.
LeKiD
Feb 13, 2008, 08:55 PM
11 ram seems... heee ... unequal.
fridgeymonster3
Feb 13, 2008, 10:02 PM
I have 10 GB and I am running multiple CS3 simultaneously and doing some Handbrake encoding and moving among Spaces or between apps is much smoother than when I had only 2 GB.
Consultant
Feb 13, 2008, 10:21 PM
Are you glass half full or glass half empty?
Some people would say, it's not maxed out yet, I could go for 32gb.
Some people would drool at 11gb...
Well more typically is better, especially with video editing.
Lurgen
Feb 13, 2008, 10:29 PM
Is 11GB too much? No.
Is 8 cores too much? No.
Now stop asking these questions before my wife finds this forum and realises what a ridiculous system I have ordered!
kingkezz
Feb 13, 2008, 10:31 PM
I run FCS 2 to edit and export HDV in SD and Blu-Ray. I have a 10gb ram in my new mac pro.
When doing a 2-pass export to SD DVD with compressor istat pro tells me I have 6 gig of ram free. Do I have more ram than I need?
Keebler
Feb 13, 2008, 10:51 PM
I run FCS 2 to edit and export HDV in SD and Blu-Ray. I have a 10gb ram in my new mac pro.
When doing a 2-pass export to SD DVD with compressor istat pro tells me I have 6 gig of ram free. Do I have more ram than I need?
ok folks....i get it...11 GBs will be nice ;)
thanks.
Kingkezz....you really need to look at bitvice for mpeg2 compression.
I really don't try to push anything on these forums, but man oh man...i'm telling you compressor SUCKS compared to bitvice in terms of quality.
www.innobits.com
if you are producing for clients, you need to check it out...you own your clients at least a test. :)
the default settings for SD are remarkable. the colour, brightness and depth of compressor literally pales in comparison.
i know you didn't ask for my opinion, but i felt i needed to tell you, as a colleague in this world.
btw, your extra 6 GBs means you've got extra space to play with other apps while compressor (or hopefully, bitvice :) is running.
Cheers,
Keebler
Topper
Feb 13, 2008, 10:55 PM
Hi folks,
I use DVDStudio Pro, Toast, Final Cut Pro, Fotomagico (slideshow app) and bitvice often.
I have 3 GB and am thinking of filling the rest of the slots with 2 gb sticks for a total of 11 GBs.
Is that overkill? I just have the stock vid card as I'm waiting for a new one to come out?
Cheers,
Keebler
11 GB the way you are doing it doesn't work.
You have to have even numbers.
The only 11 GB combination that works is 4- 2 GB sticks with 2- 1 GB sticks with 2- 512 MB sticks.
I am guessing that you have 3- 1 GB sticks.
You could add 4- 2 GB sticks and 1 GB stick for a grand total of 12 GB of memory.
Or you could add 5 more 1 GB sticks for 8 GB of memory.
Or you could add 2- 2GB sticks, 1- 1GB stick, and 2- 512 MB sticks for 9 GB of memory.
http://homepage.mac.com/ctopper/.Pictures/Mac Pro Memory.jpg
newtech
Feb 13, 2008, 10:58 PM
He may have an older Mac that shipped with 2 X 512MB FB-DIMMs and added 2 X 1GB.
Topper
Feb 13, 2008, 11:02 PM
He may have an older Mac that shipped with 2 X 512MB FB-DIMMs and added 2 X 1GB.
Okay, you are right, good point.
As a matter of fact, it sounds likely.
Keebler
Feb 14, 2008, 12:31 AM
Okay, you are right, good point.
As a matter of fact, it sounds likely.
yup...newtech is right. shipped with 2x512's.
but thanks for your diagram b/c i was just about to hunt for it! :)
I've always liked the #11 anyways so it's good to go ;)
Cheers,
Keebler
11 GB the way you are doing it doesn't work.
You have to have even numbers.
The only 11 GB combination that works is 4- 2 GB sticks with 2- 1 GB sticks with 2- 512 MB sticks.
I am guessing that you have 3- 1 GB sticks.
You could add 4- 2 GB sticks and 1 GB stick for a grand total of 12 GB of memory.
Or you could add 5 more 1 GB sticks for 8 GB of memory.
Or you could add 2- 2GB sticks, 1- 1GB stick, and 2- 512 MB sticks for 9 GB of memory.
btw, any chance you'd have one of those for a powermac G5 dual 2.0 (summer 2004)? I can't find one on apple's site.
Topper
Feb 14, 2008, 08:51 AM
btw, any chance you'd have one of those for a powermac G5 dual 2.0 (summer 2004)? I can't find one on apple's site.
I have the G5 2.0 but I only have what is in the manual.
http://homepage.mac.com/ctopper/.Pictures/memory 2.jpg
MacRumorUser
Feb 14, 2008, 08:55 AM
yup...newtech is right. shipped with 2x512's.
but thanks for your diagram b/c i was just about to hunt for it! :)
I've always liked the #11 anyways so it's good to go ;)
Cheers,
Keebler
I have the same config actually in my macpro
2 x512mb
2 x 1gb
4 x 2gb
To be honest I just filled up the slots because I had a spare bit of cash in the business account that needed spending (either that or the taxman would have taken it anyway) so I upped my ram.
Works great, but I have yet to use more that 5gb and that was only when I was working on a massive photoshop project.
Oh well :) Enjoy
kbmb
Feb 14, 2008, 10:26 AM
I have the same config actually in my macpro
2 x512mb
2 x 1gb
4 x 2gb
To be honest I just filled up the slots because I had a spare bit of cash in the business account that needed spending (either that or the taxman would have taken it anyway) so I upped my ram.
Works great, but I have yet to use more that 5gb and that was only when I was working on a massive photoshop project.
Oh well :) Enjoy
Same here...running happily with 11GB of RAM. Had the stock 2x512mb from Apple, then bought 2x1GB from Crucial. Then this December, prices had dropped so much that I picked up 4x2GB of OWC (for about the same I paid for the Crucial!!)
I too have only used about 5-6GB at once with a large PS project open.
It's nice to not have to worry about memory. :p
Can't do this as easily with Windows!! :apple:
-Kevin
chadosan
Feb 14, 2008, 10:58 AM
I have been using Bitvice for a while now and can honestly say the M2V's it produces are very good. I like compressor for H.264, but for Std. Def DVD encodes you just can't beat Bitvice.
YMMV.
johny5
Feb 14, 2008, 11:56 AM
Just having 2gb stock was a nightmare for me and I only use iphoto, imovie, itunes, VMware Fusion (XP ideally set to 1gb ram), Visualhub and safari
I upgraded to 6gb and then to 10gb, now it flies! I have however noticed that the majority of the time 6gb would have been sufficient, but i do not regret getting 10gb as it was cheap enough anyway.
If you have the cash, get 11 (or rather 10).
Tallest Skil
Feb 14, 2008, 12:29 PM
Yes, 11GB of RAM is too much. 640K ought to be enough for anyone!
Father Jack
Feb 14, 2008, 12:34 PM
You can never have too much of a good thing .. :cool:
jtblueberry
Feb 14, 2008, 12:49 PM
I jut got my mac and added ram to total 14GB. I figured it would be overkill but was amazed to find to I consistently use all of my ram. I use Photoshop CS3 and Photoshop Lightroom. I think Photoshop uses extra ram as scratch. In the future I'll max out my system whenever possible...32GB would be nice:D
Keebler
Feb 14, 2008, 10:30 PM
thanks for the feedback folks. I'm excited to have it jacked up enough that i won't need to worry :)
jjaenagle
Feb 14, 2008, 10:34 PM
No but I think an extra 256 megabytes would be way overboard
mkrad
Feb 14, 2008, 10:44 PM
New MP with 16Gb RAM (further specs below), boot camp seems to limit RAM recognition to 2Gb. I have a work-critical program that requires WinXP for medical image manipulation and performs much better with more RAM; do parallels or fusion allow greater RAM recognition in WinXP or am I going to have to wait for some Apple upgrade (firmware or otherwise) to recruit more of the RAM? Funny, they don't publicize the RAM limitation in any press or sales releases...
Luis
Feb 14, 2008, 10:45 PM
I tend to agree with people who say you cannot have enough ram.
m1stake
Feb 14, 2008, 10:56 PM
New MP with 16Gb RAM (further specs below), boot camp seems to limit RAM recognition to 2Gb. I have a work-critical program that requires WinXP for medical image manipulation and performs much better with more RAM; do parallels or fusion allow greater RAM recognition in WinXP or am I going to have to wait for some Apple upgrade (firmware or otherwise) to recruit more of the RAM? Funny, they don't publicize the RAM limitation in any press or sales releases...
Leopard is a 64-bit OS, which in addition to a few other things means that it can support an ungodly amount of RAM.
You're probably using a 32-bit windows OS, which will only see up to 3.25GB on a PC, regardless of how many physical sticks are installed.
A 64-bit version of a windows OS in Boot Camp would be able to recognize all of your RAM (The 64-bit Windows compatibility was very recently added).
mkrad
Feb 14, 2008, 11:00 PM
OK, so that basically means getting vista 64, as all XP versions, as far as I am aware, will not install with boot camp??
yukio
Feb 14, 2008, 11:16 PM
XP is a 32-bit OS, and it can't see all of the installed memory in your Mac under Boot Camp. The same should be true under Parallels or VMWare.
That being said, Microsoft sells Windows XP Professional x64 which should open up some memory headroom and recognize more RAM.
Check with your software vendor(s) though - as not everything worked gracefully in XP64 from what I recall - and depending on how the app was written - you might not be able to use anything past 2GB.
jjahshik32
Apr 10, 2008, 03:58 AM
Hi folks,
I use DVDStudio Pro, Toast, Final Cut Pro, Fotomagico (slideshow app) and bitvice often.
I have 3 GB and am thinking of filling the rest of the slots with 2 gb sticks for a total of 11 GBs.
Is that overkill? I just have the stock vid card as I'm waiting for a new one to come out?
Cheers,
Keebler
I have 16gb ram to get 100% performance out of my mac pro =D
Infrared
Apr 10, 2008, 05:47 AM
More RAM can be better and often is, but I've noticed a
sprinkling of posts by people asking why their machine
isn't using the large amounts of RAM they've bought. E.g.,
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6951308
So, you might add RAM in stages, and see how you do.
If it doesn't cost more etc. to do it that way, that is.
Play4keeps
Apr 10, 2008, 12:00 PM
Safari will be snapier:D
MacAtaq
Apr 10, 2008, 01:57 PM
With 8GB modules coming out (not sure for the macpro) I dont think 11Gbs is too much at all.
Even 32GB, its only a matter of time before this ridiculous limit upgrades itself to ludicrous limits at TBs of ram.
iBeard
Apr 10, 2008, 03:48 PM
You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much RAM. :)
jjahshik32
Apr 10, 2008, 05:28 PM
I believe you get 100% of the mac pro's potential speed if you fill in all the banks with the same ram configuration for example I have 8x2gb all filled up or you can go with 8x1gb or 8x4gb.
Tallest Skil
Apr 10, 2008, 05:32 PM
Even 32GB, its only a matter of time before this ridiculous limit upgrades itself to ludicrous limits at TBs of ram.
"640 terabytes ought to be enough for anyone."
petvas
Apr 10, 2008, 05:42 PM
I have 13GB of RAM and I enjoy it!!!
I use lots of Virtual Machines under VMWare Fusion for my test lab (I am a Microsoft Exchange Technology Specialist) and the more RAM I have the better. I enjoy keeping all apps running all the time. I experience no slowdowns at all. Safari, Mail, Aperture, iCal, iTunes, Addressbook, Numbers, VMWare (with at least one VM active) and iChat run all the time.
jjahshik32
Apr 10, 2008, 05:55 PM
Just max out and fill up your ram slots with 16gb of ram and just, "Set it and forget it!"
ButtUglyJeff
Apr 10, 2008, 08:34 PM
13 gigs is too much RAM, and the Thanksgiving turkey was too juicy.................
Enjoy your new RAM.;)
cheekybobcat
Apr 10, 2008, 08:59 PM
Max it out man. You'll love it.
krye
Apr 11, 2008, 08:32 AM
You can never have enough RAM, buy as much as you can afford.
petvas
Apr 11, 2008, 08:47 AM
Out of pure curiosity, has anyone of you actually bought RAM from Apple? I got my Mac Pro with 1GB (2006 model) and then bought me the extra 12GB from DSP-Memory (German distributor). The extra RAM costed me about 600 Euros...I can't imagine buying the RAM from Apple...
ComeOnDieYoung
Apr 11, 2008, 11:02 AM
wait it out, you'll be glad.
RedTomato
Apr 11, 2008, 11:12 AM
And I remember upgrading my first PC to a whole 2MB! (8x 256kb sticks or something like that)
Greenbird600
Apr 11, 2008, 03:13 PM
You can never be too thin, too rich, or have too much ram
jjahshik32
Apr 11, 2008, 07:42 PM
You can never be too thin, too rich, or have too much ram
well.. you can be too thin.. where your ribs will show or your dangerously close to dieing..
Thetics
Apr 11, 2008, 08:09 PM
Is $1.000,000.00 too much money? Seriously More RAM = better, always when using video/audio apps.
Yes! :D
ekwipt
Apr 12, 2008, 01:47 AM
Just max out and fill up your ram slots with 16gb of ram and just, "Set it and forget it!"
done the same as you jjahshik32 maxed out at 2GB x 8 from Trans international.
Actually it's still sitting on my desk as i'm waiting on my new HDs to appear, no point opening her up jsut yet
emeldahay
Apr 12, 2008, 05:52 AM
I maxed out 32GB of ram a few days ago.
3D models with displacments and tonnes of textures takes it toll.
It was only 6 months ago I maxed out 16GB and thought it would be a while before I ever saw the sides of filling 32.
Everyone has different requirements...
JasonK
Apr 12, 2008, 06:01 AM
well.. you can be too thin.. where your ribs will show or your dangerously close to dieing..
good point, so you can be too thin. Does this answer your question?:D
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