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Sesshi
Feb 15, 2008, 03:37 PM
http://www.packardbell.co.uk/products/notebooks/easynote-bg-white/easynote-bg46-p-004/productsheet-PC12E00601-1239.html

~600 in the UK.
Approx $1000 if you take out UK VAT.

What's more, the optical drive is supplied. :eek:



Eidorian
Feb 15, 2008, 03:40 PM
I'm much more fond of a 12.1" widescreen for a subnotebook. Looks like a nice little machine.

dthree36
Feb 15, 2008, 04:34 PM
Interesting design and nice that it is small but I guess my bottom line is that it is a Windows system. I prefer OSX and unless there is a way to install OSX on it my interest drops off. I have a Sony TZ series sitting behind me that I don't really care to use since I got my MBA and it has all that the MBA doesn't, But I still prefer the MBA.

ayeying
Feb 15, 2008, 05:19 PM
ew. packard bell.

heatmiser
Feb 15, 2008, 05:38 PM
A 12" 1280x800? Not bad.

todd2000
Feb 15, 2008, 05:45 PM
I thought they went out of business YEARS ago.

droo94
Feb 15, 2008, 06:07 PM
Something about that florescent green...

http://flatclassroomproject.wikispaces.com/space/showimage/onelaptop_cw.jpg

Qwickshot
Feb 15, 2008, 06:56 PM
that is a bargin.

admanimal
Feb 15, 2008, 07:45 PM
What is so special about it? It's thicker than a Macbook.

FX120
Feb 16, 2008, 01:51 AM
Not the first 12" widescreen notebook I've seen, certainly the most ugly.

Dell's 700m/710m line were good little notebooks back in the Pentium M days, I really wish they had carried over that form factor to the CD and C2D.

weckart
Feb 16, 2008, 02:05 AM
Don't be tempted. It's a Packard Bell. You will be so sorry.

They provide the low-end computers in PC World and its European stores. Notoriously unreliable as well as cheap looking.

Just stand by the entrance in any PC World and within minutes you will see someone carting one back to the customer service point.

Sesshi
Feb 16, 2008, 07:06 AM
There's no doubt that it's cheap looking, but less reliable than Apple? I don't think that's possible.

Also I believe the drive is a 2.5" article. Which means you can shoehorn more storage into the machine if you're DIY-capable.

Ratty
Feb 16, 2008, 10:41 AM
Packard Bell are absolute rubbish, no way even near a comparison with an MBA or any Apple laptop.......:eek:

Sesshi
Feb 16, 2008, 11:06 AM
Oh I'm sure they're the usual consumer-grade crud.

So not far from Apple then...?

Still, at half the price you've got to wonder, haven't you.

weckart
Feb 16, 2008, 11:59 AM
I am the last person to blow Apple's trumpet, but Packard Bell is a special sort of crud. Well below current budget laptop standards. Just Google the name and check the comments on all the forums that crop up.

For what it's worth, that laptop actually looks much better than Packard Bell's norm. Perhaps it is paying more than lip service to quality and finish. If it carries on improving like this, it might become mediocre by the end of 2008.

Ratty
Feb 16, 2008, 12:04 PM
Oh I'm sure they're the usual consumer-grade crud.

So not far from Apple then...?

Still, at half the price you've got to wonder, haven't you.

You get what you pay for, parkard bell are sub comsumer grade crud....

BongoBanger
Feb 16, 2008, 05:25 PM
Packard Bell are indeed the bargain basement of the PC world. You'd be better with a Dell XPS M1330 or a Lenovo X61 for a Windows lightweight laptop.

Although, obvious trolling aside, the TC does have a point. 'It just works'? Please, don't make me laugh.

Spievy
Feb 16, 2008, 05:39 PM
I thought Packard Bell went out of business too.

dmw007
Feb 16, 2008, 06:10 PM
ew. packard bell.

My thoughts exactly...

QCassidy352
Feb 16, 2008, 07:46 PM
There's no doubt that it's cheap looking, but less reliable than Apple? I don't think that's possible.

Apple is consistently near the top of the ratings for laptop reliability. No company is perfect.

zanoii
Feb 17, 2008, 03:24 AM
I like the german product page for that one: http://www.packardbell.de/ (http://www.packardbell.de/?hindex=10).

Text says:
12" EasyNote BG 46 Limited Edition
For Apple-Lovers

Nice one..

(found at Macpro.se (http://macpro.se/2008/02/12/desperata-packard-bell/))

edit: of course they are referring to the colour, which they describe as "lime-green". Then why not go with a lime fruit?

Sesshi
Feb 17, 2008, 02:13 PM
Apple is consistently near the top of the ratings for laptop reliability. No company is perfect.

As a matter of curiosity I'd be interested to see where that comes from, apart from user surveys (Apple users are significantly more forgiving of failures as we see here) or a company which fixes machines not under the manufacturer's warranty.

Blue Velvet
Feb 17, 2008, 02:18 PM
Apple users are significantly more forgiving of failures as we see here...

You think so? I get the opposite impression; that the smallest flaw sends people into screaming heebie-jeebies. :D

BlizzardBomb
Feb 17, 2008, 02:44 PM
(Nitpicking) How does a .co.uk site spell "View" wrong twice?

Anyway, thumbs up for price and 12" widescreen. Thumbs down for pretty much everything else I guess :p

Cybergypsy
Feb 17, 2008, 03:28 PM
Not bad, but not good either:eek::eek:

:apple:Love

EvryDayImShufln
Feb 17, 2008, 04:00 PM
Apple is consistently near the top of the ratings for laptop reliability. No company is perfect.

Actually, if you read consumers reports november 2007 I believe, they grade apple as the least reliable of the tested brands (granted, not by much: they were at 23% repair rate over a few years while most others were at about 20%).

However, they graded apples customer service and tech support at the top by a significant percentage.

Sesshi
Feb 17, 2008, 05:18 PM
You think so? I get the opposite impression; that the smallest flaw sends people into screaming heebie-jeebies. :D

That's true, but then the Apple Store service is quite good as long as you have time to kill - which I assume most domestic users are able to put up with. The Genius service IMO is unfussy and provided you give them everything they need to resolve the situation, they do it very well for the most part.

Thing is, it is about the pretty. A not-unacceptably (for a domestic user) failure-prone machine which looks very good and is fixed with a smile scores better for satisfaction overall among people who don't regard their hardware as critical, than a machine which never goes wrong and isn't as heavy on the eye candy.

Someone like me on the other hand never expects to require to see a tech* in the lifetime of the machine, which in my case is a short and hard one - stop snickering in the back - when buying a machine with a reasonable reputation. The downgrade in that sense was significant when I took up Apples. Shocking actually, to be honest.

*or even worse, actually cart it in myself... I mean, what company wishing to cater for halfway serious people still does this stupidity? My gaming PC's have on-site support / upgrade!

Roba
Feb 18, 2008, 05:24 AM
For a Windows budget laptop I think that the Acer Gemstone is better than that Gateway laptop. It seems like a good portable laptop to recommend to someone who is on a budget or somebody who doesn't like to spend to much out on computers. TrustedReviews recommended the 15 inch version of this model and gave it a 9/10 rating. I believe that BMW is responsible for the design of these laptops.
http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Acer_Aspire_2920Z_Laptop_LX.ANM0X.044/version.asp

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Acer_Aspire_2920_Gemstone_Laptop_LX.ANK0X.105/version.asp

http://www.trustedreviews.com/notebooks/review/2007/05/31/Acer-Aspire-5920/p1