64GB iPod touch?

[Mr. Eko]

I know it sounds greedy, but when/if do you all think they will release the 64GB touch. I am in no need for an iPod right now, so I figure I'll just wait until they get bigger. Will it be this summer maybe? Or like a year? Thoughts?

[psychofreak]

My guess is that it may come in September, but more likely January '09.

[Blue Velvet]

The doubling of max. capacity, from 16gb to 32, happened only five months after first product release, so this year is probably a very good bet... likely at least two months before Xmas, I would have thought, given the importance of the holiday season for product sales.

So, sometime between July and first week of November?

[mojohanna]

Yes, but will you be willing to pay handsomely for it? My guess is that a 64g touch would run somewhere between $700 and $800 by summer/fall.

[manram24]

Yes, but will you be willing to pay handsomely for it? My guess is that a 64g touch would run somewhere between $700 and $800 by summer/fall.

yea right buddy
apple won't do that
they will drop the 8GB
let 16GB be 300
let 32GB be 400
and the 64GB (if they come out with one) be 500

no way it will be around 700 to 800
ur out of ur mind

[kream314]

when do you guys think that they drop the 8gb an make the 16gb standard. am hoping by them doing this it will lower the price tag for the 32gb

[CalmEnvy]

64GB won't come out till about Jan 09, that's my guess. There just to expensive right now.

[a104375]

i think that at some point they might offer one but right now it might be a few months before they do that

[bloodycape]

They might bring out a 48gb device in August as a small fix, then in January bring out a 64gb model.

[BrownManUPS]

They might bring out a 48gb device in August as a small fix, then in January bring out a 64gb model.

Interesting, you are the first person I've seen to say that a smaller device other than 64 will come out next.

[TheSpaz]

They might bring out a 48gb device in August as a small fix, then in January bring out a 64gb model.

That's not how SDD works. They need to be matching chips. They can't put in 2 24GB SDD chips because you can't make a 24GB chip. Hah... so they have to go up to 64GB.

It's like this:

1GB
2GB
4GB
8GB
16GB
32GB
64GB
128GB
256GB
512GB

[franzmueller]

That's not how SDD works. They need to be matching chips. They can't put in 2 24GB SDD chips because you can't make a 24GB chip. Hah... so they have to go up to 64GB.

It's like this:

1GB
2GB
4GB
8GB
16GB
32GB
64GB
128GB
256GB
512GB

That sound so cool :D in a few years time walking on the street:

Hi there , you have an iphone ?
yeap it has 256 GB
really ? wow just got mine last week with 512 GB but its getting sorta small for me , when Apple releases the 1014 GB i will get one ....
Yeah man you are so right ... 256 GB are nothing now a days ....

HA HA ... my first ipod had 15 GB and it was to big for me , now my ipt with 16 GB it barely covers my needs

[bloodycape]

That's not how SDD works. They need to be matching chips. They can't put in 2 24GB SDD chips because you can't make a 24GB chip. Hah... so they have to go up to 64GB.

That is not true Sandisk had a 6gb mp3 player out. They also make a 12gb cf card(just check Amazon or newegg you will see it listed there) and both them and Samsung have plans to bring out a 12gb microSDHC cards out. I am thinking as a small fix Apple will put one 32gb chip and 16gb chip to make 48gb. If they are not doing it, you know there will be another company doing it. After all all 32gb flash players(except maybe the Sandisk) are using two 16gb chips. The next logical step maybe 64gb, but that will be a hefty price. Therefore I think that they will wait a little for prices to go down and instead bring out 48gb first which would be like a 40gb replacement or something.

[atszyman]

I am thinking as a small fix Apple will put one 32gb chip and 16gb chip to make 48gb. If they are not doing it, you know there will be another company doing it. After all all 32gb flash players(except maybe the Sandisk) are using two 16gb chips.

For items as pricey as this they'll more than likely stick to matched chips for yield and reliability issues. Matched chips is on less reel of parts to load into the assembly machine and less chance of a screw up. When you have different chips you run the risk of the wrong reel getting loaded, which may or may not be a big deal (2 16 GB chips is a 32 GB iPod, 2 32 GB chips and you've got an expensive mistake for that run). There's also the possibility of reversing the chips, which could be fixed via software detection of which chip is where, but why bother when you can just keep the chips matched and save the hassle.

[Muncher]

That is not true Sandisk had a 6gb mp3 player out. They also make a 12gb cf card(just check Amazon or newegg you will see it listed there) and both them and Samsung have plans to bring out a 12gb microSDHC cards out. I am thinking as a small fix Apple will put one 32gb chip and 16gb chip to make 48gb. If they are not doing it, you know there will be another company doing it. After all all 32gb flash players(except maybe the Sandisk) are using two 16gb chips. The next logical step maybe 64gb, but that will be a hefty price. Therefore I think that they will wait a little for prices to go down and instead bring out 48gb first which would be like a 40gb replacement or something.

It depends on how the iPod uses the chips. If it uses one chip for the first 32GB and another chip for the upper 16GB, then yeah, it might work. If the chips are used in parallel (if the ipt uses a 16bit processor, and the upper bytes for each 16bit word are in one chip, the lower byte in the other chip), then it would be impossible.

[The Messiah]

They better not release 64GB yet as I've only just purchased the 32GB Touch.

[-Dark Angel-]

If you keep waiting for something newer on the horizon, you'll never have anything in the technology field.

[boz0]

HA HA ... my first ipod had 15 GB and it was to big for me , now my ipt with 16 GB it barely covers my needs

Well, my first hard disk was 20 megs. Of course, before that, you had to make do with 360k or 720k floppies.

The real question is, do you really need all that space? I'd be slightly annoyed to have bought a 8 Gb in January if the 16 Gb's price dropped in Feb, but honestly, what I've got is more than enough to put a couple movies, 24 animes, 30 or 40 CDs and still sync my mail and address book.

Unless you can't access your iTunes library for a couple weeks, that should be quite enough, shouldn't it?

[idoctor]

yea i think they will come out with 64gig around christmas... but it will be a lot of money. you would have to be dumb to buy it at that high of a price too

[chall5]

Apple have just announced that there will be no more size increases in the iPod range until people on message boards stop asking when then next one is coming out...

[atszyman]

yea i think they will come out with 64gig around christmas... but it will be a lot of money. you would have to be dumb to buy it at that high of a price too

Most likely by the time the 64 GB version comes out the 8 will be dropped and the 16 and 32 will fill in at the current 8 and 16 price points leaving the 64 GB for what a 32 GB currently costs. At which point we'll have a ton of threads here about how people were ripped off since they paid $500 for a 32 GB iPt 6 months ago that they could now get for $400.

[KFCTR]

I know it sounds greedy, but when/if do you all think they will release the 64GB touch. I am in no need for an iPod right now, so I figure I'll just wait until they get bigger. Will it be this summer maybe? Or like a year? Thoughts?

Not in the 1st generation Touch son, not in the 1st generation. Probably 2nd generation.

[optimus prime]

i'd love to see one... hopefully it will happen soon

[djellison]

They better not release 64GB yet as I've only just purchased the 32GB Touch.

And of course, if they release a 64GB model, your 32GB model will stop working, store fewer songs, burst into flames and club baby seals to death.

Doug

[siegelrj]

I would love to see a 64GB Ipod Touch but it may be too cost prohibitive in the near term. However, even more than that I would like to see memory card expansion (16GB SD cards are available for under $100). Sent email to Apple; fell on deaf ears and blind eyes.

[gloss]

And of course, if they release a 64GB model, your 32GB model will stop working, store fewer songs, burst into flames and club baby seals to death.

Doug

Winner.

[wrkactjob]

They better not release 64GB yet as I've only just purchased the 32GB Touch.

Yes I suspect marketing and making the maximum $ is as much to do with this as is the availability of the technology.

There will always be people who will buy every model as the memory gets upgraded and its a good companies job to exploit this market demand to create maximum profit.

You don't just give the public what they want, you tease them with a bit of leg first then a bit of thigh then....

[lofight]

I don't they'll release a 64GB ipod touch untill they can sell it 100$ more than the 32GB ipod touch with having some profit..
My guess goes to Macworld '09

[akonradi]

I don't they'll release a 64GB ipod touch untill they can sell it 100$ more than the 32GB ipod touch with having some profit..
My guess goes to Macworld '08
That time has come and gone, my friend. Macworld '09?

[aidanpendragon]

You could just make one Wii-style, 2 32GB-models duct-taped together.

[lofight]

That time has come and gone, my friend. Macworld '09?

:p I'm not quite in 2008 yet.. :p

[jonnylink]

If you keep waiting for something newer on the horizon, you'll never have anything in the technology field.Sounds like a good way to save money!!

Seriously though, you are right. However, if said technology isn't vital that isn't a bad thing.

Plus, some people (the Mac Crowd especially) could use a little extra waiting. We (I include myself) tend to have itchy mouse fingers when it comes to Apple products. I've decided to see how long I can hold out before getting an iPod Touch or iPhone. So far all's well— I'm excited that a better 3G phone might be my reward for being so patient.

[cbrain]

I'm not sure it's technically possible. The iPod touch uses the FAT32 filesystem (I think) which isn't compatible with storage over 32GB.

[dukebound85]

I'm not sure it's technically possible. The iPod touch uses the FAT32 filesystem (I think) which isn't compatible with storage over 32GB.

yes it is

ive had many external hard drives in fat32 format and way over 32gb ie 250,320, etc

[boz0]

I'm not sure it's technically possible. The iPod touch uses the FAT32 filesystem (I think) which isn't compatible with storage over 32GB.

Actually, not being able to build FAT32 filesystems of more than 32 gigs was just a builtin limitation in Windows XP. Earlier versions of Windows had this possibility.

Anyway, the ipod touch doesn't use FAT32, it uses HFS.

[cbrain]

Anyway, the ipod touch doesn't use FAT32, it uses HFS.

How can Windows write to it?

[wizard]

I know it sounds greedy, but when/if do you all think they will release the 64GB touch. I am in no need for an iPod right now, so I figure I'll just wait until they get bigger. Will it be this summer maybe? Or like a year? Thoughts?

I suspect well after mid year as that is when a couple of manufactures expect to have their 32GB chips on line. The scoop here is that they need two 32GB chips to get to 64 GB. Personally it is something I'm holding out for as my Itunes library is already at 28GB, that with no music. Those Sci-fi videos suck up a lot of disk space.

The trick for Apple is to be able to deliver the right product at the right price. The current recession will be a factor in the delivery of any product. If they can't get the right price point there simply won't be the demand to justify the upgrade. Frankly the 32 GB model right now is a bit on the expensive side for the current economic conditions. It is almost to the point that I'd like to see them bring out a fat Touch with a hard disk, especially if they can get to 200GB.

In any event I could see Apple making a compromise with a 48GB model. That would use one high capacity chip and an older 16GB chip.

Dave

[boz0]

How can Windows write to it?

The files are transferred through iTunes, to a specific service on the device, which then writes the files itself on the hfs filesystem. It is not Windows itself writing the files on a device it can directly access (like it would, say, on an external USB disk).

You can check this by logging into your ipod (using ssh or a terminal package) and entering the following command : df -T, which lists the filesystems and their types.

[zainjetha]

I reckon a 64GB touch would cause too much competition for Classic 80GB so a definite no for now..

[scorpio333]

Is there any evidence pointing to the fact that a 64GB drive is much more costly than the 32's? To be honest, I haven't searched around for info.

Also, could the fact no 32GB refurbs have been posted for weeks be a sign they're no longer being made? or that they're being replaced? I look a few times a day for them and haven't seen one 32 on the refurb page since early April. Just seems strange, but maybe someone has a logical explanation.

[akonradi]

Is there any evidence pointing to the fact that a 64GB drive is much more costly than the 32's? To be honest, I haven't searched around for info.

Also, could the fact no 32GB refurbs have been posted for weeks be a sign they're no longer being made? or that they're being replaced? I look a few times a day for them and haven't seen one 32 on the refurb page since early April. Just seems strange, but maybe someone has a logical explanation.
32GB chips are signifigantly more expensive than 16GB chips. The main evidence would just be pricing info from the chip manufacturers. As for the refurbs, that's completely irrelevant, especially as it took until January to get the new iPods onto the refurb store.

[wombat888]

"The real question is, do you really need all that space?"

I am continually amazed by people who ask this about mp3 players.

YES you need that space.

My collection is in my opinion average to somewhat large, and I am currently at about 30GB on my 5th gen iPod. That is with no videos, no photos. I could view videos and photos on my iPod, but I don't. On a touch, I probably would want to. That's also with no cached Web pages, saved notes, or anything else. All I have is my music collection and playlists.

When you consider that 32GB isn't really 32GB once firmware and bit/byte math are taken into account, I doubt my collection would quite fit on a 32GB touch. Even if I could shoehorn it in, that would leave no room for more music, or video, or a collection of photos.

I am tempted enough by the touch that I often think about getting a 32GB one, keeping both it and my 5th gen until a larger touch comes out, then ebaying both. But so far, I'm holding off.

Short answer, yes, some people need the space. If you don't have your entire music collection on your iPod, or close to it, that's cool. But don't assume that everyone uses their iPods the same way. My iPod is my "system of record" for music. I buy a CD, I rip it onto the iPod, and I store the CD, most often never to be played. My music collection exists only in two places, really - an external computer hard drive I use to arrange playlists and as a backup, and my iPod. I don't play the radio, don't play CDs much, don't play cassettes, don't play LPs, don't play 8-tracks. I play the iPod. I don't think I'm unique in this.

[wizard]

"The real question is, do you really need all that space?"

I am continually amazed by people who ask this about mp3 players.

I'm amazed myself with respect to this issue of storage space. Mind you I don't even have a music collection to speak of, but my interest in television shows and movies eats up space even faster. This doesn't even take into account other PDA functionality that can be had in a Touch / iPhone.


YES you need that space.

My collection is in my opinion average to somewhat large, and I am currently at about 30GB on my 5th gen iPod. That is with no videos, no photos. I could view videos and photos on my iPod, but I don't. On a touch, I probably would want to. That's also with no cached Web pages, saved notes, or anything else. All I have is my music collection and playlists.

Just a couple of years worth of Farscape came to 28 GB. Add in subscribed podcasts and other stuff and 32 GB is simply not enough.

Now people might ask can't you simple delete what you have already viewed. That certainly makes sense in some cases but not all. For example podcasts such as CocoaCast are a good reference to have access to constantly. In general though I want a system that is not limited by storage capacity for reasonable collections. This to reduce management concerns and to assure I always have access to needed programming.


When you consider that 32GB isn't really 32GB once firmware and bit/byte math are taken into account, I doubt my collection would quite fit on a 32GB touch. Even if I could shoehorn it in, that would leave no room for more music, or video, or a collection of photos.

Or applications which I suspect will become big on Touch. Once people realize that the Touch is more than a media delivery device some of that storage space is going to be converted to apps storage. So what might once have been 30 GB out of 32, may quick change to something like 26GB out of 32.


I am tempted enough by the touch that I often think about getting a 32GB one, keeping both it and my 5th gen until a larger touch comes out, then ebaying both. But so far, I'm holding off.

Short answer, yes, some people need the space. If you don't have your entire music collection on your iPod, or close to it, that's cool. But don't assume that everyone uses their iPods the same way. My iPod is my "system of record" for music. I buy a CD, I rip it onto the iPod, and I store the CD, most often never to be played. My music collection exists only in two places, really - an external computer hard drive I use to arrange playlists and as a backup, and my iPod. I don't play the radio, don't play CDs much, don't play cassettes, don't play LPs, don't play 8-tracks. I play the iPod. I don't think I'm unique in this.

I don't think you are unique either. What is good to hear about though is the stuff coming out of the labs that could completely replace flash in a few years. If some of this tech get to market we could see terabytes of storage at todays prices. Unfortunately I can't wait that long, its hard enough to hold off for iPhone 2

Dave.

[bpl323]

32GB works for me, but yeah, you need something that can hold ALL your music.

[EMILinator]

If you keep waiting for something newer on the horizon, you'll never have anything in the technology field.

so true, its not even funny.

[joeshell383]

I know it sounds greedy, but when/if do you all think they will release the 64GB touch. I am in no need for an iPod right now, so I figure I'll just wait until they get bigger. Will it be this summer maybe? Or like a year? Thoughts?

Greedy? How is it greedy? You're going to be the one paying for it.

[EMILinator]

you know i was looking at the patterns on wikipedia, and it's possible there will be an incremental upgrade in around fall, maybe just a simple hard drive boost or software upgrade.. but nothing this summer i don't think.

but since they just released the 32GB upgrade in february, there might be the possibility of a second generation iPod Touch around fall, instead of just the memory boost.. no way to tell though.

[ZiggyPastorius]

Not in the 1st generation Touch son, not in the 1st generation. Probably 2nd generation.

I thouht they were on 2nd gen now? When I just bought my touch yesterday, the lady said they increased the price because they got the 2nd gens in like a month ago.

[wombat888]

I thouht they were on 2nd gen now? When I just bought my touch yesterday, the lady said they increased the price because they got the 2nd gens in like a month ago.

We're on "first gen", in my opinion.

The only changes that I'm aware of since the first ones launched are capacity and firmware.

Do capacity and firmware warrant "generation" labels? I doubt it, but some may disagree.

The true "second gen" will probably take the all-plastic look of the upcoming iPhone, and possibly some other design/UI changes in the hardware.

[Xjett]

We're on "first gen", in my opinion.

The only changes that I'm aware of since the first ones launched are capacity and firmware.

Do capacity and firmware warrant "generation" labels? I doubt it, but some may disagree.

The true "second gen" will probably take the all-plastic look of the upcoming iPhone, and possibly some other design/UI changes in the hardware.

I don't think so at all, at least not for the iPod Touch. Just because it can do email now doesn't make it 2nd Gen.

[bozz2006]

so I've recently talked myself out of buying an ipod classic, because i don't need that much space, and the UI on the classic is far too jerky... I've told myself no new ipod until I can get a Touch with capacity higher than 32GB... What do you all think now? When may this happen?

edit: yes i know there are many threads on this topic, but I had a good time reading through this year-old one, and decided to post in it.

[Muncher]

so I've recently talked myself out of buying an ipod classic, because i don't need that much space, and the UI on the classic is far too jerky... I've told myself no new ipod until I can get a Touch with capacity higher than 32GB... What do you all think now? When may this happen?

edit: yes i know there are many threads on this topic, but I had a good time reading through this year-old one, and decided to post in it.

Of course it will happen, it's just a matter of when. I predict that the third gen iPod touch will come with a 64GB option. It just depends on when manufacturers can start producing affordable 32GB chips. (Yes, I know I said 32GB. The iPod touch uses two memory chips. The iPhone, on the other hand, is limited to one memory chip due to the extra electronics it carries, which is why the top iPhone has half the capacity as the top iPod touch.)

[mogzieee]

I know it sounds greedy, but when/if do you all think they will release the 64GB touch. I am in no need for an iPod right now, so I figure I'll just wait until they get bigger. Will it be this summer maybe? Or like a year? Thoughts?

One day.

[sushi]

so I've recently talked myself out of buying an ipod classic, because i don't need that much space, and the UI on the classic is far too jerky...
The Classic is good if you want to carry large amounts of data (music & videos). However, the interface is a bit clunky compared to the touch. And you can do so much more with the touch.

Gut feeling is that we will see a 64GB version by the end of summer. It will depend on chip availability and cost.

[bozz2006]

right. 32GB chips are still pretty spendy, i think. and some are saying that flash prices are actually rising. maybe has to do with manufacturers keeping up with demand? makes sense to me.

the classic's UI is just too clunky for me, and I honestly don't need 120GB of storage. it's just that 32GB isn't enough for my tastes. 64GB will do me fine. i'm just worried that when it is released I won't have any money. Got a kid on the way and... I've heard they're kinda spendy!

[sushi]

Just think, 10 years from now we will be wondering how we got along with only 32GB of memory. :p

[Muncher]

Just think, 10 years from now we will be wondering how we got along with only 32GB of memory. :p

As we watch UHDTV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_High_Definition_Video) on our contact lens/iphones and float around in hover cars :D.

[bozz2006]

As we watch UHDTV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_High_Definition_Video) on our contact lens/iphones and float around in hover cars :D.




I can't wait to get my hoverboard...
http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/modernmaterialist/2008/07/hoverboard01.jpg

[TrevorD]

Does anybody even know if Apple has purchased any significant number of 32GB flash chips?

[Beric]

Does anybody even know if Apple has purchased any significant number of 32GB flash chips?

Since we aren't expecting an update till September (or are we?) why would Apple be buying the chips now?

[TrevorD]

Since we aren't expecting an update till September (or are we?) why would Apple be buying the chips now?

Oh, I havent heard anything about September. In fact, noone has heard anything at all. It was just a question to see what came up.

[Pukey]

[SNIP] Cool Hoverboard Pic Here [SNIP]

YES! THAT'S what I'm waiting for! Nice! Hoverboards for all!
I always did want one of those.

It sounds ridiculous, but you could almost say in a 'round about way I've been waiting for a decent capacity (64GB) iPod Touch since 2005 (in theory at least). Back then I was saying to my friends (and I'm sure I'm not the only one) "Why don't they come out with an iPod that can get on the internet? It only makes sense for Apple since they could make even more money from people buying their music off the iTunes store even when they're not at their computer." I suppose you could say the technology wasn't there yet, but PDA's and phones were doing this. True though, those are different devices with different ends in mind. Thankfully the iPod Touch did come out (the touch part an added bonus which I never imagined). Now since it first came out I've just been waiting for the right capacity and with some luck and another few months wait, maybe a decent price. We're almost there...I hope!

[sushi]

While I realize that this is a different type of product and memory, you can get a variety of 64GB USB thumb drives for $120 or less these days.

We may not be that far off seeing a 32GB iPhone and 64GB touch.

[MattG]

Add me to the list of those patiently waiting...if they introduce a 64GB Touch for the same price point (or less) as the current 32GB, I'll be all over it. I had a Classic and didn't really care for it. I won't be purchasing another until they have a Touch with more capacity!

[ghostee]

I'm waiting on this too. Really need to replace my 60gb photo soon, having constant troubles with it. The number of times I've had to smack it against something or pop the case open and push on the cables to get it working is ridiculous. :rolleyes:

[Ivan P]

Oh, I havent heard anything about September. In fact, noone has heard anything at all. It was just a question to see what came up.

It comes from the fact that Apple, for many years now, has done the major iPod refresh in September; there's no reason why this year would be any different.

[kevzy]

MIght we see the 64GB today? The store is down.....

[sushi]

MIght we see the 64GB today? The store is down.....
Apple US store is up.

My guess is over the summer.

Edit: Store is down now. Weird. Down. Up. Down.

[kevzy]

Could also be the 4GB shuffles that apparently been rumored.

I think that if the 64GB is held off until the Summer people will put off buying since a September revision, price drop would only be a couple of months away.

[Stitch30]

Could also be the 4GB shuffles that apparently been rumored.

I think that if the 64GB is held off until the Summer people will put off buying since a September revision, price drop would only be a couple of months away.

That's it. You said it. I lost my 16gb iPod Touch a couple of weeks ago. Can't find it anywhere and I'm heartbroken.

Now I need a new Touch but I'm afraid that Apple might come with an update/price drop in the near future. If that doesn't happen, at least I'm sure that new iPods will be introduced in september. I don't want to spend 400$ (I live in Canada) on an iPod and then see a better one for the same price or less.

So I'll hold my hard earned money until I see a revision. Meanwhile, I'll have to get used to live without my dear Touch and holding to my Nano only.

[da151]

Now that the shuffle has been released is it fair to say the touch will not see an update soon?

[kevzy]

Now that the shuffle has been released is it fair to say the touch will not see an update soon?

In February 2008 the shuffle was upgraded to 2GB and the touch was upgraded to 32GB. The iPod touch upgrade came in early February with the new shuffle coming two weeks later.

Hopefully we'll see a 64GB iPod touch by the end of March.

[da151]

In February 2008 the shuffle was upgraded to 2GB and the touch was upgraded to 32GB. The iPod touch upgrade came in early February with the new shuffle coming two weeks later.

Hopefully we'll see a 64GB iPod touch by the end of March.

Thank you, that is helpful. I will continue to hold out.

[Davy.Shalom]

Well, my first hard disk was 20 megs. Of course, before that, you had to make do with 360k or 720k floppies.

The real question is, do you really need all that space? I'd be slightly annoyed to have bought a 8 Gb in January if the 16 Gb's price dropped in Feb, but honestly, what I've got is more than enough to put a couple movies, 24 animes, 30 or 40 CDs and still sync my mail and address book.

Unless you can't access your iTunes library for a couple weeks, that should be quite enough, shouldn't it?

Yes I agree. The large capacity iPods are bought by those who want to take all of their music wherever they go. That way they never have to waste time syncing it. I am fine with 8 gb. I have 5 GB of rock music and the other 30 GB classical that is in my library is played through a stereo system. It suits me but lots of people are picky.

[wombat888]

"The real question is, do you really need all that space?"

The real answer is, yes, why do you ask? It's funny to me that this is a recurring question. It translates to, "I use my iPod in a particular way, why don't you use your iPod in the same way?"

When discussing things like iPods, "need" is a loaded term. You don't need an iPod to have any feature or do anything, really.

But for many of us, it's a barrier to not have our complete digital collections loaded at one time. I am keeping my 5g 60gb iPod until the Touch matches its capacity, because that's more important to me than the Touch's other features ... though I want those, as well.

[naquadah1]

already heard Apple was extending the length of time between releases of updated Macbooks due to the economy. guessing that delay is applies to iPods as well.

[Dnz]

I am also holding off... its rather annoying.

I want my whole library, and yes I dont feel the urge to spend a lot of money on something which wont be as awesome in maybe 2 or 3 months.. considering ppl have been expecting it since earl 08, it MUST be right around the corner right..?

[Frienemie]

The doubling of max. capacity, from 16gb to 32, happened only five months after first product release, so this year is probably a very good bet... likely at least two months before Xmas, I would have thought, given the importance of the holiday season for product sales.

So, sometime between July and first week of November?

im betting september as most ipod come out around then

[alphaod]

im betting september as most ipod come out around then

That is half between mentioned dates.

[keenan wolf]

Apple have just announced that there will be no more size increases in the iPod range until people on message boards stop asking when then next one is coming out...

really? was it an email announcment? cuz i didnt get it... can you tell me where to find it? :p:p:p

[NC MacGuy]

really? was it an email announcment? cuz i didnt get it... can you tell me where to find it? :p:p:p

You didn't get the memo? September 15th.

All 8Gb iPod Touches should be cleared from stock with the back to school promotion ending the 8th of Sept. We will roll out new 64Gb models Tuesday the 15th of September.

[migsev]

How plausible is a 64gb iPod touch? Are memory cheaps cost effective enough for Apple to produce them in the near future?

I've been holding out for the longest time for a bigger touch. My 5.5 just seems so dated now. :(

[Tallest Skil]

At the September update. End of story. :cool:

[rdowns]

At the September update. End of story. :cool:

I'd take his advice to the bank after his stellar record of predictions for WWDC. :rolleyes:

[Tallest Skil]

I'd take his advice to the bank after his stellar record of predictions for WWDC. :rolleyes:

Can you prove me wrong? :D

[wizard]

How plausible is a 64gb iPod touch?

I'd have to say the chance is very good but it does depend upon which direction Apple moves the Touch devices. Here I'm thinking physical size more than anything as I can see arguements for both smaller and larger devices.

If Apple truely tries to embrace a portable movie/video iPod I could see memory going even higher. If that is combined with a highly optimized machine for game play I could see a huge demand on storage.

Are memory cheaps cost effective enough for Apple to produce them in the near future?

I'd have to say yes. Just look at the price on SSD using multi level flash. All Apple needs is Flash fast enough to play back 720P video, this put the cost into the low end of SSD. That is not to say it will be dirt cheap for the dense storage model just that it would be manageable.

I also have this idea that Apple might consider using drive modules in future devices. The thought here is to get access to wear leveling support instead of DIYing it. AIR shows what the potential is here. This would only be in a high end and larger device.


I've been holding out for the longest time for a bigger touch. My 5.5 just seems so dated now. :(

Hold out a bit longer! We are not likely to see new devices until after the current back to school program ends. I don't know when that is exactly,so check your self. The reality is if the iPods get the same love iPhone got the wait will be worthwhile. Then there is the good possibility that they will get an even better update more focused on gaming and other hardware demanding apps.



Dave

[rdowns]

Can you prove me wrong? :D

About a 64GB iPod touch? No.

Since you asked, you really ought to think about how you post on this forum. You post with "authority" as if you know more then the rest us. The fact is, you don't. It quite possible your advice prior to WWDC steered quite a few in the wrong direction.

To wit...

Is this a possibility? I'm buying a macbook this week and i don't want it to be outdated after a couple of days? Are there any rumors along these lines?

thanks

And your response...

Not really possible at all.


How did that prediction work out?


oooh or should i wait? rumors of upgrades june 8th?

And your response...

None. Buy one.


In a thread asking about what may happen to the MB at WWDC, a user asked...

I'm curious to know what you think will happen (if anything) at apples keynote.

Your response...

Absolutely nothing.

Do you know what WWDC is? Any idea?


and then you added...

If the white MacBook is killed, the unibodies will have a price drop.

If the white MacBook becomes the MacBook and the unibodies become little "Pro"s like some people are insanely thinking, prices will stay the same.

They CAN'T bump the processor. Nothing exists to BUMP it to!

And what would it matter, eh? Less than .2 GHz is absolutely meaningless. You can't notice it. The next real update will be Clarksfield or Arrandale.


Then you added this gem

Because WWDC is a developer conference, has nothing to do with laptops, and there are no chips to which they can bump.

The next update will be Clarksfield (if they can beat the heat) or Arrandale.


Wait, it gets better.

Macs will never have card readers. Steve and Jonathan don't like holes in their designs, and it would have to be cut into the unibody.

Never, then, extends to their deaths, provided their apprentices do not share their design philosophies... but that's not likely.


Then you smacked us down using your logic.


There won't be an update until November, says logic.

Of course, according to you, we didn't need to even watch the keynote since you knew exactly what was going to happen.

I see 80% App Store, 2% snippet at the end for Snow Leopard release date, everyone there gets a near-Gold-Master copy, etc...

10% how well we've been doing (at the beginning), and either 7% One More Thing and 1% musical guest or just seven more percent App Store.

Lighten up, Francis.

[MacNut]

Did you ever know that your my herrrooo, your everything I would like to be..:p

[jessica.]

I can fly higher than an eagle,
'cause you are the wind beneath my wings.

[MacNut]

I can fly higher than an eagle,
'cause you are the wind beneath my wings.I think I butchered the first line.:o

[jessica.]

I think I butchered the first line.:o

With your poor grammar you did. :p
I kid I kid ...

[mkrishnan]

The Wasteland embraces this thread. Like a long-lost friend with whom one is overjoyed to be re-acquainted, the wasteland bears no malice to any of you. While you may have wandered away from the love of the wasteland, the wasteland has not forsaken you, and has not forgotten you. You are loved.