Linkin Park To Participate In Upcoming New York Apple Event

[MacRumors]

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Linkin Park band member Mike Shinoda posted yesterday (http://www.mikeshinoda.com/blog/Linkin_Park/echo_award) (via AppleInsider (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/02/19/apple_taps_linkin_park_to_perform_at_secret_nyc_event.html)) that the band would be participating in "a special show that we’re doing in NYC in conjunction with apple."

Apple has been rumored to be planning a press event to take place within the next week or so (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/07/apple-event-in-last-week-of-february/) that will likely focus on the iPhone and iPod Touch's SDK. \

Apple often invites performers to play at its launch events, however Shinoda does not give much information as to what the event entails so there is a possibility that the booking may be totally unrelated to the rumored press event.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/19/linkin-park-to-participate-in-upcoming-new-york-apple-event/)

[BRLawyer]

I can only say one thing: Linkin Park sucks BIG time...as well as other nu-metal craptastic bands from the US...

[justflie]

I'm sure he'll get a friendly phone call from Apple asking why the heck he thought it would be a good idea to mention that...

[Eduardo1971]

WooWhoo!

Lets hear it for crappy music!

[thebeat]

Linkin Park Sucks! Negative Negativve!!!

[Shadow]

This is awesome. Linkin Park is my favorite band, Apple is my favorite company and now they're working together. :cool: :D

[timnosenzo]

Wow, Linkin Park.. thats too bad... they're freakin' terrible. :(

Ah well, Apple launch events are cool. Would they really go this far to launch the SDK?

[iHerzeleid]

Hybrid Theory wasn't bad at all...

[longofest]

Okay... i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I actually like Linkin Park.

Sorry haters :cool:

[gugy]

I agreed,
Linkin Park is pretty lame:mad:

[Martin C]

I wish I had tickets to that show, I live in NYC.

[slu]

Well, there will certainly be plenty of screaming...Linkin Park has that down pat!

In all seriousness, who cares? I mean Linkin Park does suck, but so does John Mayer and just about every musician Apple trots out there for these events. Just show me the damn products already.

[wake6830]

What, was Crazytown already booked?

[Asar]

linkin park is awesome. :D

[gzambran]

I am going to go out on a limb and say will we see a 3g announcement.

[bbplayer5]

Linkin Park bad?!

hmmm.. no.

[Asar]

I am going to go out on a limb and say will we see a 3g announcement.

your probably right. they wont let fcc ruin the surprise.

[gothamm]

linkin park may not be the best band out there, but they sure beat that old artist that performed at macworld this year.

[timnosenzo]

I mean Linkin Park does suck, but so does John Mayer and just about every musician Apple trots out there for these events.

Heh, very very true.

[xenotaku]

dear god, worst band ever. Apple....you suck. Not that I care, I'm not going...but anything that links the worst band ever with the best company ever....makes for one crappy combination.

man they suck. i dont understand how anyone can like the band. You need to have absolutely no sense of musical taste or history or theory to actually sit down, listen to that dribble and say "hey, this is actually good". I have never been able to decide who actually sucks more....Linkin Park or Smashmouth.

[Unspeaked]

Linkin Park performing only points to one thing: Apple is buying out the Zune.

[Martin C]

I am going to go out on a limb and say will we see a 3g announcement.
Not when they just released the 16GB model. People who bought that one up will be pissed.

[Peace]

I am going to go out on a limb and say will we see a 3g announcement.

your probably right. they wont let fcc ruin the surprise.

Not very often Apple introduces products at "secret events"

[xenotaku]

What, was Crazytown already booked?

hah!! Yeh...so was 98 degrees.

[.Andy]

I'm so avant garde I hate every band ever. I only listen to acts that play in their own garages. As soon as they get a pub gig I reject them as lyrical sell-outs and move on. I also post about it on the internet. Voted negative for this story.

[weizilla]

Linkin Park is going to be doing a lot of flying if they're going to be performing in NYC on a Tuesday:

Official Ticketmaster site. Linkin Park tickets, concerts and tour dates (http://www.ticketmaster.com/artist/703831)

[2Shae]

What's with all these people hating Linkin Park?
LP is one of the most popular (and IMO best) bands in the world. Oke, their latest album wasn't really that good, but overall I like Linkin Park...and that's coming from a Hip Hop fan.

[iHerzeleid]

hah!! Yeh...so was 98 degrees.

so was Limp Bizkit


:(

[Shadow]

dear god, worst band ever. Apple....you suck. Not that I care, I'm not going...but anything that links the worst band ever with the best company ever....makes for one crappy combination.

man they suck. i dont understand how anyone can like the band. You need to have absolutely no sense of musical taste or history or theory to actually sit down, listen to that dribble and say "hey, this is actually good". I have never been able to decide who actually sucks more....Linkin Park or Smashmouth.

Cheers for that. Thanks for insulting a load of people's personal taste, including mine. How about you say what you like so I can say how ********** s*** they are? :mad:

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean its bad :mad:

/rant

[swagi]

Linkin Park band member Mike Shinoda posted yesterday (http://www.mikeshinoda.com/blog/Linkin_Park/echo_award) (via AppleInsider (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/02/19/apple_taps_linkin_park_to_perform_at_secret_nyc_event.html)) that the band would be participating in "a special show that we’re doing in NYC in conjunction with apple."
...

I know, you rumor sites live from that info, but...

Did anyone on this side not see the obvious?

It will be a special iTunes-exclusive concert (same as AOL Sessions once was), maybe even an Unplugged concert (since MTV sucks so bad lately, at least over here in Germany). Nothing more, nothing less.

[gothamm]

you know what always pisses me off? When people hate on a band just because somebody else hates them. Thats my theory on how bands get hated on. some "cool" hipster guy accuses a band of being "unoriginal" and thus starts the wave of hatred. I think people hate on a band because they just want to fit in..

SO...you guys hate linkin' park. Thats cool, but what is your reason?

[pit29]

I'm sure he'll get a friendly phone call from Apple asking why the heck he thought it would be a good idea to mention that...

Let's see how long it takes until he takes it off the web site... Anyone for another link to Apples Developer Connection site? :rolleyes:

Anyhow, I would not mind if they ended up with another band at that event...

[Sky Blue]

I think Apple's Event is titled:

The Worst bands of the last 50 years.

Seriously, it seems like a iTunes Apple Store Festival/Recording like the London ones. I'm sure when it's revealed as such people can cry about no new MacBook Pros.

[bmk]

I'm so avant garde I hate every band ever. I only listen to acts that play in their own garages. As soon as they get a pub gig I reject them as lyrical sell-outs and move on. I also post about it on the internet. Voted negative for this story.

A man after my own heart.

[pine1045]

Unless it happens this weekend, it won't be for at least a month

Tue 02/19/08 Baltimore, MD 1st Mariner Arena
Thu 02/21/08 New York, NY Madison Square Garden Arena
Fri 02/22/08 Montreal, QC Bell Centre
Sat 02/23/08 London, ON The John Labatt Centre
Mon 02/25/08 Lexington, KY Rupp Arena
Tue 02/26/08 Nashville, TN Sommet Center
Fri 02/29/08 Oklahoma City, OK Ford Center
Sat 03/01/08 Albuquerque, NM Tingley Col. @ New Mexico St. Fair
Sun 03/02/08 El Paso, TX UTEP Don Haskins Center
Tue 03/04/08 Los Angeles, CA Staples Center
Thu 03/06/08 Las Vegas, NV The Joint
Fri 03/07/08 Las Vegas, NV The Joint
Sat 03/08/08 West Valley City, UT The E Center
Mon 03/10/08 Sacramento, CA ARCO Arena

[Cali_Man]

I'm so avant garde I hate every band ever. I only listen to acts that play in their own garages. As soon as they get a pub gig I reject them as lyrical sell-outs and move on. I also post about it on the internet. Voted negative for this story.

Psh, my favorite band hasn't even formed yet.

[EagerDragon]

Not my kind of music, never heard of them.
Makes no difference, no "don't care" buttom, can't vote.

[Montserrat]

Must admit I don't like Linkin Park, but certainly don't hate them, just not my thing - can't really understand hating bands.
Certainly wouldn't expect Apple to cater to me, as they're understandably into mass appeal. Not sure some Aphex Twin acid would go down well at one of these events :)

[terryzx]

Funny how once a band gets POPULAR even if the music is good...then SUDDENLY they SUCK:mad:

Kinna like METALLICA did....although that last album really did SUCK

LP is really good and very innovative innovative

AND they SELL OUT the BIG CONCERTY VENUES so having them do something for Apple is a big plus

[Mike Teezie]

you know what always pisses me off? When people hate on a band just because somebody else hates them. Thats my theory on how bands get hated on. some "cool" hipster guy accuses a band of being "unoriginal" and thus starts the wave of hatred. I think people hate on a band because they just want to fit in..

SO...you guys hate linkin' park. Thats cool, but what is your reason?

People aren't allowed to dislike bands just because they dislike them?

Linkin Park makes me cringe. I don't care how any other person alive feels about them. You like them, great. I hate them, great.

Do you need everyone to like what you like? Why do you care?

[pagansoul]

I love John Legend and Sarah Mclachlan. I like John Mayer. I like U2. I don't know any LPark music. I think Apple likes to experiment with their entertainment and that's a good thing.

[j-a-x]

Come on Apple, get a better band next time!

[Sky Blue]

you know what always pisses me off? When people hate on a band just because somebody else hates them.

I hate them because they're *****. If everybody in the world loves them, then yay for them.

[j-a-x]

Thu 02/21/08 New York, NY Madison Square Garden Arena


Hmm from those tour dates it seems like it has to be some time around 02/21 ! (or the weekend, I guess).

[t0mat0]

If you're going to say Linkin Park suck - I think it only fair you name a substitute that you think would do a decent job of it.

Apple have a decent range of artists. Some might be mainstream, but they're widely liked. Heck, Jose Gonzalez is on soon in London - already put an email for tickets to that Apple gig.

[Whorehay]

Hmm.. I wonder where it is. Maybe I'll catch a glimpse of them? How exciting.

[Asar]

Tue 02/26/08 Nashville, TN Sommet Center

a flight from nyc to nashville isnt long at all. not saying it'll happen, but its not impossible.

[iJon]

SO...you guys hate linkin' park. Thats cool, but what is your reason?

Last time I listened to Linkin Park my ears started bleeding. Actually I shouldn't hate on them too much, I saw them in concert back in high school. Granted that was 6 years ago and my musical taste has changed drastically.

As I always say though, there is a reason we don't share ears. Maybe Steve can get John Mayer to join them and it will be best worse Apple musical event in history.

jon

[Armsreach]

Unless it happens this weekend, it won't be for at least a month

Tue 02/19/08 Baltimore, MD 1st Mariner Arena
Thu 02/21/08 New York, NY Madison Square Garden Arena


I'm not mathematician, but last I checked, it didn't take two day to drive from Baltimore the NYC, or vice versa.

TOMORROW!!! (or not)

[Asar]

also, jay z did a 7 city tour in one day

[Eduardo1971]

Linkin Park bad?!

hmmm.. no.

Umm, yeah. I see your point.

Linkin Park is not bad. Horrible.

Yes, I could live with this.

[BornAgainMac]

I hope it is the SDK. And that Bill Gates is wearing an Apple T-Shirt in the audience and representing one of the developers to launch this new platform.

[kevd00d]

Too bad Apple couldn't get Third Eye Blind or LFO

[usingpond]

There goes Apple's indie credibility. To people wondering why this is such a shock, and how people must just hate "popular" bands (Linkin Park is not that popular), you must first consider these two things:

1) You have no taste in music. Not good or bad taste, just no taste if you think that's why people don't like this group, or any group for that matter.

2) Apple has used Feist and Yael Naim in advertising campaigns, as well as awesome indie bands at SoHo Apple Store concerts, like Annuals. You probably have never heard of any of these artists, but that doesn't mean they're less suitable for something like this.

[j-a-x]

If you're going to say Linkin Park suck - I think it only fair you name a substitute that you think would do a decent job of it.


How about "The Mars Volta"?
I would say they "think different" at least...

[Popeye206]

The heck with LP... we got new stuff coming!!!!!

Sweeeeeet! :D

[Sweetbike40]

I thought Linkin Park was like a one hit wonder band. Why such a small buget??!!!

anyway...can't wait for the event.

[kevd00d]

Yea...in the end, what matters most is the arrival of the SDK (hopefully!)

[emil.lofman]

you know what always pisses me off? When people hate on a band just because somebody else hates them. Thats my theory on how bands get hated on. some "cool" hipster guy accuses a band of being "unoriginal" and thus starts the wave of hatred. I think people hate on a band because they just want to fit in..

SO...you guys hate linkin' park. Thats cool, but what is your reason?

It's hard to explain. It's a gut feeling. Imagine if someone took the worst bands you know, put them in a blender and made you drink it? That's how Linkin Park sounds. Like the taste of bad musician puree.

Or wait, they sound like an ultra-commercial, watered down mix of lame teenage angst rock and crap rap! That's more it, actually!

Here's what I listen to, so you can hate me back. If you're a fan of Linkin Park, my bet is you don't know more than 5 of the top 50 artists I listen to (proving that I'm a mindless hipster wannabe wanting to fit in with the cool crowd, and that LP fans don't know much about music).

http://www.lastfm.se/user/emillofman/

[kornyboy]

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Unless it happens this weekend, it won't be for at least a month



Tue 02/19/08 Baltimore, MD 1st Mariner Arena

Thu 02/21/08 New York, NY Madison Square Garden Arena

Fri 02/22/08 Montreal, QC Bell Centre

Sat 02/23/08 London, ON The John Labatt Centre

Mon 02/25/08 Lexington, KY Rupp Arena

Tue 02/26/08 Nashville, TN Sommet Center

Fri 02/29/08 Oklahoma City, OK Ford Center

Sat 03/01/08 Albuquerque, NM Tingley Col. @ New Mexico St. Fair

Sun 03/02/08 El Paso, TX UTEP Don Haskins Center

Tue 03/04/08 Los Angeles, CA Staples Center

Thu 03/06/08 Las Vegas, NV The Joint

Fri 03/07/08 Las Vegas, NV The Joint

Sat 03/08/08 West Valley City, UT The E Center

Mon 03/10/08 Sacramento, CA ARCO Arena

Good point. Although it could actually happen between now an Thursday. Has Apple had one of these events on a Thursday in the past?

[Eduardo1971]

Funny how once a band gets POPULAR even if the music is good...then SUDDENLY they SUCK:mad:

Kinna like METALLICA did....although that last album really did SUCK

LP is really good and very innovative innovative

AND they SELL OUT the BIG CONCERTY VENUES so having them do something for Apple is a big plus

Meh; Linkin Park ALWAYS sucked-popularity has nothing to do with it (to me anyway).

Radiohead is also (very) popular; but I LOVE them!

I never cared for Metallica as metal was never my cup of tea.

[Rhinestorm]

Why are you guys complaining? I like Linkin Park, but why would you prefer those poppy jazz crappers over Linkin Park?

[CountPollen]

Hi,

Maybe they're not going to use L. Park for iphone/ipod touch, but for an event that rocks!
Like the now very long awaited MBP revamp. :cool:

Boy, if they don't upgrade the MBP soon, I'll have to switch back to Archlinux…
I really need a new laptop. So far I've been really happy with my '06 MB, but I need a stronger medicine ;)

Can't wait till next tuesdays.

Cheers,
Count Pollen

Macbook 2 GHz, 2GB RAM, 160GB HD, ipod nano 3rd gen.

[TonyPaco]

Wasn't this one of the same bands who didn't like the whole idea of iTunes because the ability to download individual songs "ruined the concept of an album". I believe it was LP, Metallica, RHCP, and Green Day.

Of course, when record labels tell you to jump...

[usingpond]

you know what always pisses me off? When people hate on a band just because somebody else hates them. Thats my theory on how bands get hated on. some "cool" hipster guy accuses a band of being "unoriginal" and thus starts the wave of hatred. I think people hate on a band because they just want to fit in..

SO...you guys hate linkin' park. Thats cool, but what is your reason?


Hey guys, you don't like my favorite band! You must not know what you're talking about!

Are you 14? I ask this not because of your obvious taste (though that is a valid point) but more because of your style of argument.

[mzd]

linkin park may not be the best band out there, but they sure beat that old artist that performed at macworld this year.
:rolleyes:
ugg. i know i shouldn't bite, but genre specific personal taste aside, if you honestly compare the two artists in question, randy newman has linkin park beat in lyrical depth, social message/impact, musical composition, and instrument proficiency.
not saying everyone (or anyone) has to like the sound of his voice or agree with his views, but the man is an extremely skillful and talented writer and musician.

[Philter]

That's pretty lame hiring a west coast band to perform in NYC.

[Cali_Man]

It's hard to explain. It's a gut feeling. Imagine if someone took the worst bands you know, put them in a blender and made you drink it? That's how Linkin Park sounds. Like the taste of bad musician puree.

Or wait, they sound like an ultra-commercial, watered down mix of lame teenage angst rock and crap rap! That's more it, actually!

Here's what I listen to, so you can hate me back. If you're a fan of Linkin Park, my bet is you don't know more than 5 of the top 50 artists I listen to (proving that I'm a mindless hipster wannabe wanting to fit in with the cool crowd, and that LP fans don't know much about music).

http://www.lastfm.se/user/emillofman/

What would your take be on someone who listened to say 75% of the music you do, plus bands like Linkin Park, Nickleback, or a Kenny Chesney. Sage Francis is pretty out there as far as your tastes go, but there you go.

[pine1045]

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Good point. Although it could actually happen between now an Thursday. Has Apple had one of these events on a Thursday in the past?

Where are the invites? I can see it now. Steve Jobs standing at the Time Square store, 3000 developers just happen to walk by, take a seat, Steve rocks the world with announcements and then Linkin Park plays. Random works I guess.

[drb6]

Here's what I listen to, so you can hate me back. If you're a fan of Linkin Park, my bet is you don't know more than 5 of the top 50 artists I listen to (proving that I'm a mindless hipster wannabe wanting to fit in with the cool crowd, and that LP fans don't know much about music).

http://www.lastfm.se/user/emillofman/

Wow, why so much hate. Music is the most subjective thing ever. Not so sure about composition, but how good one band sounds is entirely personal. And I hate the way people use music and bands to define themselves as this or that, most just come off as snobs, whether indie rock or rap. Define yourself sure, but not as better than someone else because of their favs.

[emil.lofman]

What would your take be on someone who listened to say 75% of the music you do, plus bands like Linkin Park, Nickleback, or a Kenny Chesney. Sage Francis is pretty out there as far as your tastes go, but there you go.

I'd say that you're 75% OK. And that it's time for me to begin listening purely to Deep house.

;)

[akadmon]

Linkin Park Sucks! Negative Negativve!!!

Two negatives make a positive.

[notnek]

As much as Linkin Park and Fort Minor suck, it kind of makes sense for Apple to book them for this event. After all, how many loops from GarageBand did Mike use for his first Fort Minor album? :rolleyes:

[Pine-Tree]

Hey, don't hate on Linkin Park, they're not THAT bad in my opinion. I like their earlier stuff like Reanimation (hip-hop collaboration) and the thing they did with Jay-Z.

Either way if an SDK does comes out or something exciting isn't that what truly matters here?

[slffl]

Sounds great!!! I love Linkin Park as well!

[JamesMcCain]

oh hell, I dont think LP lawyer's is likin' Mike right about now...

I can just see it now...

[saule cogneur]

Bottom line: Musical taste is subjective, and in terms of popularity, talent is arbitrary.

Some people like screaming and simple power chord progressions; some don't. Is there really need to argue about it? LP is an A list band. They sell out shows, so maybe Apple is simply trying to appeal to different audiences.

P.S. Regardless of ones interest in LP. This rumor is a good sign and certainly more credible than the, "I know a guy who knows a guy" rumors we've been dealing with since MWSF 2008. (That said, I still believe Tailpipe).

[apple101]

I think that they should play angels and airwaves.
And the SDK would be FREE for the iphone owners and make iPod touch owners pay 20$ just like last update
:D

[7even]

People need to stop hating on Linkin Park :rolleyes: Just because you don't like the sound of their music doesn't mean they suck. saule cogneur pretty much hit the nail on the head a couple of posts above.

More on topic though, for some reason I can picture them performing around the time they have an official show in NYC, but next week some time between Tuesday and Friday would be more realistic. Gah, who knows. Hopefully there will be more info about the "event" soon.

[sonstone]

oh hell, I dont think LP lawyer's is likin' Mike right about now...

I can just see it now...

Come on, do you seriously think that he accidentally leaked this to apple insider of all groups? This is a completely staged PR move to get people talking about apple ahead of the event and to keep the fan boyz happy for a little while....

[Unspeaked]

Here's what I listen to, so you can hate me back. If you're a fan of Linkin Park, my bet is you don't know more than 5 of the top 50 artists I listen to (proving that I'm a mindless hipster wannabe wanting to fit in with the cool crowd, and that LP fans don't know much about music).

http://www.lastfm.se/user/emillofman/

So you listen to whatever Pitchfork tells you to? That's cool...

:p




That's pretty gay hiring a west coast band to perform in NYC.

Yeah, I'm sure they were taking into account the band's hometown when putting this together.

How dare they insult NYC like that. It's about time people in the rest of the world started treating New York with the respect the locals give it - in other words, acting like it's the greatest place on the planet.

:rolleyes:

[niemo810]

Why isn't this posted on Page 2? Performers at an Apple event is not something people look forward to discovering when they type in the URL for macrumors.

I can't wait for the new MBP!!
vs.
I can't wait for the performing artist at the next Apple event to be announced!!

Which one just doesn't sound right?

[muttley1211]

I don't care if there is an event next week or not...just as long as the SDK gets released.

[coryetzkorn]

Linkin Park may have lost their original nu-metal edge, but they are still an excellent band. They are true innovators like apple.

You hating LP = You hating innovation = You hating everything Apple stands for :eek:

I'm glad Apple is moving away from the older artists. Anyway, it should be about the mac, not the music.

[BRLawyer]

dear god, worst band ever. Apple....you suck. Not that I care, I'm not going...but anything that links the worst band ever with the best company ever....makes for one crappy combination.

man they suck. i dont understand how anyone can like the band. You need to have absolutely no sense of musical taste or history or theory to actually sit down, listen to that dribble and say "hey, this is actually good". I have never been able to decide who actually sucks more....Linkin Park or Smashmouth.

Yep, it's just amazing to see people liking those losers or any other nu-metal wannabe...I still remember when Korn said they were like the new heavy metal or the successors of Iron Maiden...these guys should just get back to the garage and listen to real rock instead of being such a ridiculous display of how low modern US metal has gone...not to mention Metallica and their painted nails, of course...

[Cuyahoga]

linkin park may not be the best band out there, but they sure beat that old artist that performed at macworld this year.

My ears just shed a tear...

[JCastro]

Can any of you honestly say that whoever plays is going to over shadow whatever is released? I don't think so...

[usingpond]

Yep, it's just amazing to see people liking those losers or any other nu-metal wannabe...I still remember when Korn said they were like the new heavy metal or the successors of Iron Maiden...these guys should just get back to the garage and listen to real rock instead of being such a ridiculous display of how low modern US metal has gone...not to mention Metallica and their painted nails, of course...

Aside from an onslaught of ellipses, this is pretty much it. ****** "Nü-Metal" -- that's right, with the umlaut. God. I'm not a huge metal fan, but even I can see it: They took one of the most badass genres of rock and turned it into "guys my girlfriend left me!!!! hlp plz". Basically what Green Day, Good Charlotte and Blink-182 did to punk. They intentionally made it commercial so that the lowest common denominator would buy the album.

This really has nothing to do with snobbery. It indeed has more to do with knowing what the frick about music. And don't give me that "but it sounds good!" BS. That's how the Nazis took over Germany!

[emil.lofman]

So you listen to whatever Pitchfork tells you to? That's cool...

:p

I just said so.

[...]proving that I'm a mindless hipster wannabe wanting to fit in with the cool crowd[...]

[chuckles:)]

Why isn't this posted on Page 2? Performers at an Apple event is not something people look forward to discovering when they type in the URL for macrumors.

I can't wait for the new MBP!!
vs.
I can't wait for the performing artist at the next Apple event to be announced!!

Which one just doesn't sound right?

The main point is that this supports the rumors of an upcoming event, not specifics about the band...

[bytethese]

I wish I had tickets to that show, I live in NYC.

You must have missed my craig's list posting, just sold 2 good seats today! Gonna be a great concert!

If Linkin Park is playing, hoping for more that just the SDK. New MBP's maybe?? :)

[slffl]

LOL, I love the people who think they KNOW that LP sucks because THEY KNOW MUSIC. Music has always been art, and art will always be subjective.

[roland.g]

I'm not a Linkin Park fan. But to see posts about them sucking or whatever is just your subjective personal taste. Seeing as this is about Apple news and an event and all you have to say is that you bag on Linkin Park.

Well that's about as subjective as me saying that you're a total idiot. A complete moron. Well, except for the fact that you are.

[Unspeaked]

I just said so.

[...]proving that I'm a mindless hipster wannabe wanting to fit in with the cool crowd[...]

Oh, so you're a contributer for Pitchfork! That's cool...

:D

[netdog]

Who really cares whether any of you like Linkin Park or not? It's a marketing strategy folks.

[usingpond]

LOL, I love the people who think they KNOW that LP sucks because THEY KNOW MUSIC. Music has always been art, and art will always be subjective.

Appreciation of music is subjective, but history of music is a science.

[jasonklee]

They could have booked (insert any band/artist), and people would still say (insert any band/artist) sucks, overrated, blah, blah, blah.

Seriously, who cares if you like them or not. I think it's a good move. And I'm not even a fan of Park.

[SirOmega]

If apple was having an announcement next week, wouldn't they have announced the event by now? Usually they give a week minimum on events. Well its the 19th and next Tuesday is the 26th....

Also, the first LP album was good, and its gone downhill since then.

[bmb012]

I'm going to say that Linkin Park has made a handful of songs that I enjoy very much.

Wuh oh! See what I did just there? :p

A friend of mine also bought their first cd randomly a year before they even hit the radio...

[netdog]

Appreciation of music is subjective, but history of music is a science.

History of music is equally subjective in choosing what is included, what isn't, what is deemed important, and how each period and artist is characterized. Wind is music. So is silence.

/rant

[Antares]

How could someone possibly vote negative for this? This is great news. Apple will be introducing/announcing something...how could that possibly be negative? Are people voting negative for the sake of voting negative? Or are people who "hate" Apple on this board and voting negative? I don't get it.

[mrrydogg]

This is why people can't read the forums, cuz a bunch a so called "experts" on everything know what is best for everyone. Linkin Park sucks, the MacBook Air sucks, the 2g Shuffle sucks, and on and on.

Give it a rest already, who cares who performs. It not something anybody is forced to watch. Just be happy Apple is working with a major band, instead of throwing Randy Newman out there. They don't have to have any artist and people would still be interested. But even with that said, I don't listen to Randy Newman, but I could care less that he performed. Good for him.

Get excited when its a band or artist you like, get over it if it isn't. Enough said.

[brianbobcat]

The timing and location just doesn't sound right. MiraMobile, which was the basis to the original rumor, is based in Oregon, and while Apple uses them in San Fran, why would Apple truck them, literally, all the way out to NYC when there's no doubt mobile production companies in NYC they can use. I know that when Apple still had MacWorld in NYC, they used a company called Masque Sound based in New York, so why wouldn't they do the same for video?

-Brian

[usingpond]

History of music is equally subjective in choosing what is included, what isn't, what is deemed important, and how each period and artist is characterized. Wind is music. So is silence.

/rant

Not really. Wind is certainly not music, it has no sense of human expression or emotion. Would you really put Linkin Park in the same ballpark as Mozart or Bach? It has nothing to do with a timeline, there are plenty of bands in the past fifty years that I personally would, but of course that's my personal taste as well.

But I think we can all come to that conclusion about Linkin Park. And that is why they are terrible.

[Stridder44]

Linkin Park wouldn't suck nearly so bad if that lead singer wouldn't scream like a little kid in every chorus of their songs. Otherwise they are pretty good.

[Eduardo1971]

:rolleyes:
ugg. i know i shouldn't bite, but genre specific personal taste aside, if you honestly compare the two artists in question, randy newman has linkin park beat in lyrical depth, social message/impact, musical composition, and instrument proficiency.
not saying everyone (or anyone) has to like the sound of his voice or agree with his views, but the man is an extremely skillful and talented writer and musician.

Word-up!

[mactastic1971]

Haven't we lost sight of the real reason this event is occurring?
I dislike Right Said Fred but Im not gonna make a big deal about it on a forum for :apple:

"I'm too sexy for my iMac"

[Zneo11]

Well, there will certainly be plenty of screaming...Linkin Park has that down pat!

In all seriousness, who cares? I mean Linkin Park does suck, but so does John Mayer and just about every musician Apple trots out there for these events. Just show me the damn products already.

I don't normally do this but in this case I am going to have to say "You sir Suck" Besides you get to see the product before the artist ever goes on. If you don't like it don't watch.

[swagi]

Appreciation of music is subjective, but history of music is a science.

And your point is?

Some of the greatest musicians (e.g. SLASH) still have to admit, they can't read notes, therefore won't follow scientific rules.

Music may have some scientific phenomena to be discovered (like harmony), yet still the best music is improvised.

And Nu Metal is part of the music history, though dead now. Just like Grunge was in the 90s. Or Hard Rock in the 80s.

My point is: I liked Hybrid Theory, I adored ReAnimation (as it was much more industrialesque, which I liked) and since then...well Linkin Park innovated contrary to my style of music. So be it. My taste, their decision.

And back on topic: Maybe they should've chosen Nine Inch Nails, as Trent seems to be a very dedicated Apple user - those Garage Band tracks for remixing were a real cool marketing ploy!

Finally (just like posted some hours ago by me and another user): It will be a bloody session they record for iTunes. He is talking about a show in conjunction with Apple. Ever heard a show consisting of one or two songs?

[Peace]

The timing and location just doesn't sound right. MiraMobile, which was the basis to the original rumor, is based in Oregon, and while Apple uses them in San Fran, why would Apple truck them, literally, all the way out to NYC when there's no doubt mobile production companies in NYC they can use. I know that when Apple still had MacWorld in NYC, they used a company called Masque Sound based in New York, so why wouldn't they do the same for video?

-Brian


I agree with this. The Apple/Park thing in NYC has nothing to do with any product announcements.

It's more than likely one of those special iTunes concerts.

[deathshrub]

linkin park may not be the best band out there, but they sure beat that old artist that performed at macworld this year.

Go back to sleep, Cheney.

Please stop deleting my comments, mods. THANKS A LOT. :rolleyes:

[scrambledwonder]

I always thought that Linkin Park was a silly name. But the guys in the band probably laugh about it too—while basking in their platinum hot tubs filled with Evian, being fed faberge egg omelets by their nubile fans.

[Eduardo1971]

[QUOTE=coryetzkorn;4998558]
You hating LP = You hating innovation = You hating everything Apple stands for :eek:
QUOTE]

You are kidding right?:o

[goodwilldrums]

Linkin Park is a roller-coaster, Linkin Park is a roller-coaster, Linkin Park is a roller-coaster...
Because like a roller coaster, Linkin Park may seem dangerous or appear rebellious while in fact it’s perfectly safe for family fun, the danger is an illusion, and they’ve been duped by marketing hype.

[mactastic1971]

I always thought that Linkin Park was a silly name. But the guys in the band probably laugh about it too—while basking in their platinum hot tubs filled with Evian, being fed faberge egg omelets by their nubile fans.

Dont you mean a Cadburys Cream Egg?
I think you'd break you're teeth on a Faberge Egg...

[MikieMikie]

Dont you mean a Cadburys Cream Egg?
I think you'd break you're teeth on a Faberge Egg...

Yeah, but the imagery is everything.

[noodle654]

Linkin Park= Horrible

Why are they going?

[hob]

Linkin Park + Apple = I don't think so... we'll see...

[scrambledwonder]

Dont you mean a Cadburys Cream Egg?
I think you'd break you're teeth on a Faberge Egg...

Well, yeah. But it's just a silly hyperbole to illustrate extravagance. Also known as a joke. Sure, not a very good one, but a joke nonetheless. ;)

[mrowl]

nothing new around here, is there?

You are voting negative because of the associated BAND??? :rolleyes:


You should be voting POSITIVE because we have another confirmation of an Apple event in the next week!


same old crap from you folks.

[James17]

I quite like Linkin Park.:)

[mactastic1971]

Well, yeah. But it's just a silly hyperbole to illustrate extravagance. Also known as a joke. Sure, not a very good one, but a joke nonetheless. ;)

I'm sorry... Even though I've lived in the states for years, I understand that some of the locals dont get the british cynicism...

[Niiro13]

Shuffle news, Apple event news, SSD news....all are fun.

But seriously, who cares what band plays at the event? =/

[netdog]

Not really. Wind is certainly not music, it has no sense of human expression or emotion. Would you really put Linkin Park in the same ballpark as Mozart or Bach? It has nothing to do with a timeline, there are plenty of bands in the past fifty years that I personally would, but of course that's my personal taste as well.

But I think we can all come to that conclusion about Linkin Park. And that is why they are terrible.

I see no reason to put either in a ballpark. Mozart was a genius who created music that I find wonderful. Great. But I also get chills every time I hear the You Never Give Me Your Money reprise or listen to Jagged Little Pill. Comparing them is strictly subjective.

[phoxrenvatio]

who cares if linkin park is playing, honestly... unless you're going to wutever the event is, who cares?

[scrambledwonder]

I'm sorry... Even though I've lived in the states for years, I understand that some of the locals dont get the british cynicism...

I thought that British cynicism was supposed to be clever.

[JRomero]

Apple should get Led Zeppelin to play, ftw.

[Eärendil]

Guys you are really just complaining because its the only thing you can do right....

Come on so you are saying that a band that actually composes their music and writes their lyrics sucks, how atupid.

So yeah turn the radio up and listen to some of your fergie and gwen steffani and some ***** like that.

Those artists don't even know what they are singing.

[twoodcc]

i don't really picture linkin park playing at an apple event, but i'm looking forward to it either way

[PkennethV]

I hope they play more than one song:)

[neilperry]

How about "The Mars Volta"?
I would say they "think different" at least...

While I'm a huge fan of TMV and not so much of Linkin Park, I think TMV would be an even worse choice than LP for an Apple event. Their live shows certainly are "different" and I doubt many people would be too big of a fan of 10-15min long solos they usually have during their liveset.

[skorpien]

I seriously think that the point to the whole rumor being posted on MR is being missed. It's not that Linkin Park is playing, or whether or not they are good. This is lending (some) credibility to the rumor that Apple's hosting an end-of-February event. That's all it was meant to do. Let's not drag personal taste into this and make it a 200 page flame war.

[El Carbonite]

If I remember correctly, Steve Jobs recently played a Linkin Park music video at Macworld for the AppleTV demo I think. Not sure.

[jb510]

Did anyone consider this might be something like the live concert Apple is doing in the UK?

The Echo quote doesn't have any dates associated with it, they could be talking about a show 6 months from now.

[mactastic1971]

I thought that British cynicism was supposed to be clever.

Only if you get it.

[Teddy's]

Let's not drag personal taste into this and make it a 200 page flame war.

At least the artist in question is not 50 cent. That thread was an ordeal.

Lol! I can't wait for new MBPs... this is getting more like the "PowerBooks G5 next tuesday" rants.

Btw, Simian Mobile Disco did a great performance at soho:p

[alt]

Linkin Park "sold out" a long time ago.

[puckhead193]

i don't mind linkin park. It seems as if apple is trying to get more "hip" bands. instead of these old farts to attract more the youth...

[scrambledwonder]

Only if you get it.

Sorry for the rude comment mate. I'm having a bad day. I'm sure that if you and I were face to face I'd find much more compelling and defensible reasons to dislike you.

[TimTheEnchanter]

ugh, attachment didn't stick, try again....

[mactastic1971]

Sorry for the rude comment mate. I'm having a bad day. I'm sure that if you and I were face to face I'd find much more compelling and defensible reasons to dislike you.

Go back to desolation wilderness and treat yourself to some yoga dude. You need it.

[TimTheEnchanter]

try this again....

People! You are all missing the real point here. I have 3 simple words....
Special Edition shuffle
I'll probably get sued for posting this, but here's a banner ad for it which I got from a solid insider contact (that is a very, very high positioned Apple executive which will go nameless).

[Astro8973]

geez people! just because they wont be playing techno or classical doesnt mean they suck. linkin park is a decent band.

[t0mat0]

Least Linkin Park could have dones was to have outed some Apple product (Look at the MacBook Air).
Roll on Tuesday.

Edit: Lol - the Special Shuffle Edition of Linkin park and Nu metal rock music. I like the concept. You can't sell them as gifts for work employees for corporations I guess...

[skorpien]

Least Linkin Park could have dones was to have outed some Apple product (Look at the MacBook Air).
Roll on Tuesday.

Techno produced live on a MBP with a laser show... *drools*... hehe
Nah, a techno show (although it would be cool) wouldn't work well either.
All I care about is whether they release the MBP finally...

[diamond.g]

Techno produced live on a MBP with a laser show... *drools*... hehe
Nah, a techno show (although it would be cool) wouldn't work well either.
All I care about is whether they release the MBP finally...

Someone like System F (my personal favorite) or Judge Jules would be great. :D

[powermac_daddy]

he is going to introduce the new Macbook Pro?

[dansai]

I gotta say that I do personally like Linkin Park, some of their music is amazing, but I will agree they're musical talent isn't exactly up their with the greats. I just find them fun to listen to when I'm in the mood, you know?

And secondly, Linkin Park has been in with Apple for a long time now. Their DJ, Mr Hahn has used Macbook Pros exclusively for triggering samples, loops, Vinyl controllers etc etc. ever since I can remember, and every song they've ever recorded has been on a Mac, when either in the studio or at each member's "home studio" (Mike has pointed this out on numerous occasions)

And yes, I realise I know WAAAY too much about Linkin Park, haha. I just digg their sound & am a studio engineer so I have to research into these things :)

[Spritey]

In all seriousness, who cares? I mean Linkin Park does suck, but so does John Mayer and just about every musician Apple trots out there for these events. Just show me the damn products already.

Good to remember that (as we say it in Norway):

taste is like a butt; divided ;c)

[koshper]

The main point is that this supports the rumors of an upcoming event, not specifics about the band...

which is ironic considering the main points raised on this thread are whether people like the band (!!!!!!!?????) and not what event could it be and why would they have that style of band for it.

I always read these threads hoping they stay on topic but they never do.

main questions it may raise I think are - what date could it be if they're performing at it?

and

what products would they have any possible relevance to that could be announced?

likelihood of apple announcing a linkin park mac mini/macbook pro special edition? - please can someone create a mock up of this, that would be funny.

[Phormic]

Well of course Apple chose an act with wide commercial appeal to please the lowest common denominator. What did you expect? A guy playing avant-garde jazz with a Tibetan nose flute?

[thirdeyeopen666]

Well, there will certainly be plenty of screaming...Linkin Park has that down pat!

In all seriousness, who cares? I mean Linkin Park does suck, but so does John Mayer and just about every musician Apple trots out there for these events. Just show me the damn products already.

This is true... but at least these other artists don't have a singer that doesn't realize you're supposed to stay in key.

Cheers for that. Thanks for insulting a load of people's personal taste, including mine. How about you say what you like so I can say how ********** s*** they are? :mad:

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean its bad :mad:

/rant

You're really insulted because the guy doesn't like a band you like? I'm going to assume your post was sarcastic.

[thebeat]

http://www.rofl.name/images/roflcopter.gif

fake, I don't even think they would write "Lets be honest, we have 1gb of inventory to clear out".. and also, if its real, go ask him when the new MBP's come out.

[JustMarci]

London gets Nick Cave...we get Linkin Park?

Suck.

[kockgunner]

this confirms apple's end of month event then. if not, it means we're having 2 apple events!

[oban14]

fake, I don't even think they would write "Lets be honest, we have 1gb of inventory to clear out".. and also, if its real, go ask him when the new MBP's come out.

For future reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parody

[Rhinestorm]

If you guys hate Linkin Park so much, what if they bring in the retarded Soulja Boy?

[ajmccoll]

I don't understand, you all bitch and moan about the lack of [insert product here] updates and events, and then when an event is "leaked", you all bitch and moan because you hate the band that they got to play at said event. I can't wait until the actual event happens and you then all come here to bitch and moan about the new products or lack thereof.

I've been an active reader of this site for over and year and half, and I've noticed that nobody ever seems happy about anything, theres always a negative aspect it seems. Apple isn't forcing you to listen to a Linkin Park CD, or forcing you to buy anything from Linkin park. They got a band to perform at an event, thats it. If the event is streaming on Apple.com the next day, don't watch the performance.

[macman2342]

Yes this confirms an apple event will take place sometime around Linkin Park's concert at Madison Square Garden.

Here's why I'm excited. I can't imagine Apple would hold an event complete with a musical performance simply to announce the intangible iphone SDK. I bet they're going to announce the 3g GPS iphone 2. They have to announce it six months ahead of shipping to get FCC approval, so announcing it now will get it out by July, like iphone 1.

Also, Garmin recently announced their GPS phone coming out 3rd Quarter 2008. Apple needs to stay competitive, and it would be in their best interest to beat it to the market, and top it (but that part's only natural ;) )

What do you think?

[billabong]

Yes this confirms an apple event will take place sometime around Linkin Park's concert at Madison Square Garden.

Here's why I'm excited. I can't imagine Apple would hold an event complete with a musical performance simply to announce the intangible iphone SDK. I bet they're going to announce the 3g GPS iphone 2. They have to announce it six months ahead of shipping to get FCC approval, so announcing it now will get it out by July, like iphone 1.

Also, Garmin recently announced their GPS phone coming out 3rd Quarter 2008. Apple needs to stay competitive, and it would be in their best interest to beat it to the market, and top it (but that part's only natural ;) )

What do you think?

Sounds cool but... Maybe some love for Canada too?....

[mcbane999]

Considering that apple appears to be missing an entire CPU generation (Penryn) on the MBP due to distractions such as apple tv, perhaps the choice of band is a fitting celebration of missed opportunities.:mad:

[oban14]

I think Linkin Park sucks (I've always associated them with your average 7th grade younger brother's music taste) but they certainly sell quite a few albums and are one of the biggest bands in the world. I don't know how big Nick Cave is in the UK, but I imagine he's much bigger there than he is here.

Just because you or I would prefer to see the Flaming Lips or Wilco doesn't mean that it would make as big a splash or have as big an impact, so I understand their choice. Who knows? Maybe they'll debut new Macbook Pros there as well.

[DaBrain]

linkin park may not be the best band out there, but they sure beat that old artist that performed at macworld this year.

Thanks a Lot! I just spit out coffee all over my mac--))) :D

[DaBrain]

Not my kind of music, never heard of them.
Makes no difference, no "don't care" buttom, can't vote.

Now that's a great idea! a Don't Care Button, man I wish macrumors would add that!

[berkleeboy210]

So, If they say it's "secret" does that mean we won't get to find out what's going on during it at all. and the press has been informed already and we are kept out of the loop until it's over?

[milatchi]

Linkin Park To Participate In Upcoming New York Apple Event

Yuck!

[Stella]

How could someone possibly vote negative for this? This is great news. Apple will be introducing/announcing something...how could that possibly be negative? Are people voting negative for the sake of voting negative? Or are people who "hate" Apple on this board and voting negative? I don't get it.

No, you don't.

Possible reasons maybe:

- Crap band
- people don't believe the rumour
- they aren't interested in iPhone SDK
- they think the voting system is a complete and total waste of time ( and vote negative )

Doesn't mean they are 'Apple haters'.

[dcsipe]

Can't believe I read through all these comments in hopes of something that was actually related to the event, not whether or not you're cool or not for liking Linkin Park.

I don't really care for Linkin Park myself, but if you do, then you'll enjoy the event all the more so kudos to you.

For those of you that think you're so cool for not liking Linkin Park, how many albums have you sold? How many concert tours have you had? If you're such knowledgeable experts of music, how many albums have you produced, or how many musicians have you trained that became famous???

And for that matter, if you're so cool, how come everyone knows who Linkin Park is, but no clue who you are???

[gothamm]

Thanks a Lot! I just spit out coffee all over my mac--))) :D

yeah, maybe its just me. I don't even listen to linkin park. But Randy Newman? who the hell listens to Randy Newman? I guess the older crowd. I am 20, so if someone put a gun to my head and i had to chose, it would have to be linkin park.

[thirdeyeopen666]

Can't believe I read through all these comments in hopes of something that was actually related to the event, not whether or not you're cool or not for liking Linkin Park.

I don't really care for Linkin Park myself, but if you do, then you'll enjoy the event all the more so kudos to you.

For those of you that think you're so cool for not liking Linkin Park, how many albums have you sold? How many concert tours have you had? If you're such knowledgeable experts of music, how many albums have you produced, or how many musicians have you trained that became famous???

And for that matter, if you're so cool, how come everyone knows who Linkin Park is, but no clue who you are???

Pretty sweet false logic there, fella. I'm not sure why it is that because I'm not famous that I'm not allowed to like a band... but you go right on ahead with your reasoning. Additionally... being "cool" has nothing to do with being well known in a 'worldly' sense, or otherwise.

[usingpond]

Okay, so far we've seen these arguments in defense of Linkin Park:

1) How many records have YOU sold?
2) They're better than ****** pop bands.
3) They write their own stuff.
4) If you don't like them you're just trying to be cool.

Seriously people? Is this the best you could come up with? This is why crappy pop-metal, or really any pop-rock crossover bands exist, because of this mentality of defensible mediocrity. Is this all you require of the music that shapes and defines our culture? Selling records? Being better than the lowest rung on the ladder? Writing their own songs?!

And reason number four is just insulting everyone's intelligence.


Edit: People care so much about this because Apple's niche market is represented by the music and art it portrays to the rest of the media. Traditionally, Apple has invited indie and/or well-respected bands, typically ones that those hip folks in their twenties are paying close attention to. Apple plays to trendsetters, because Apple IS a trendsetter. In this case, Apple is playing to the lowest common denominator, and we are all fearful of Apple becoming just that.

[aznkid25]

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but Linkin Park wrote this song called
"Numb", and Jay-Z did a remix of it. So maybe at this event, Linkin Park and Jay-Z will be there to perform it. The reason I mention Jay-Z is because wasn't there a rumor that Jay-Z was going to launch a record label with Apple? This could be the event where this might happen. What do you guys think?
Here is a Wikipedia link to the song I am referring to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numb/Encore

[usingpond]

yeah, maybe its just me. I don't even listen to linkin park. But Randy Newman? who the hell listens to Randy Newman?

Maybe people born before 1988? Jesus. Do you know who The Beatles are?

[gothamm]

Maybe people born before 1988? Jesus. Do you know who The Beatles are?

yeah, they are a group of insects which have the largest number of species :rolleyes:

[TimTheEnchanter]

fake, I don't even think they would write "Lets be honest, we have 1gb of inventory to clear out".. and also, if its real, go ask him when the new MBP's come out.

For future reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parody

LOL oban! Thank you, at least someone got my humor! :D

thebeat: YES! Of course it's fake. Apple would never make a "baby poop" brown shuffle nor admit they're clearing out old inventory. Oh, and my contact says new MBPs in New York on this Thursday at 9:05 AM CET... count on it! ;)

[kitki83]

Hey thats must awesome for Linkin Park to do, they prob more Mac fanatics than some you the MR peeps.

I can think in my head how the show will start.

The band walks out, guitar rips and that angry dude who screams in the songs just shouts, "WEEEETGGGOOOTTTTTTHEEEENEEWWWWWIIPPPHHOONNNEEEESEEECCONNNDGGEEENRAAATTTIOONN!!!!!"


Seriously I totally see that happen.

......=P

If its iPhone 2 with 3g and software updates I am all over that thing like Britney to being trashy.

[jouster]

fake, I don't even think they would write "Lets be honest, we have 1gb of inventory to clear out".. and also, if its real, go ask him when the new MBP's come out.

Fake, huh? Wow. Nothing gets by you.

[motulist]

Randy Newman? who the hell listens to Randy Newman?

You do.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005271/

[philbeeney]

Perhaps I'm an old fart but who are Linkin Park? :o

[usingpond]

Perhaps I'm an old fart but who are Linkin Park? :o

Don't ask, in this case, ignorance is indeed bliss.

[aznkid25]

Perhaps I'm an old fart but who are Linkin Park? :o

http://www.myspace.com/linkinpark

[skorpien]

Oh, and my contact says new MBPs in New York on this Thursday at 9:05 AM CET... count on it! ;)

For your sake I hope you're not being facetious... or rather for my sanity's sake :confused:

[thebeat]

Fake, huh? Wow. Nothing gets by you.

you don't even know me.

[philbeeney]

Perhaps I'm an old fart but who are Linkin Park? :o

Don't ask, in this case, ignorance is indeed bliss.

http://www.myspace.com/linkinpark

Ahhh, ok not really my cup of tea.

But I'm not going to rate this negative or positive because nobody knows in what context they're doing this gig for Apple.

[knelto]

fake, I don't even think they would write "Lets be honest, we have 1gb of inventory to clear out".. and also, if its real, go ask him when the new MBP's come out.

WRONG. The real reason it's fake is because the picture was not taken in an elevator. Personally I'm waiting for the PowerPod G5 Shuffle...

[milesdavis]

Linkin Park being involved tips me off to what the announcement might actually be about:

New Ipods without audio functionality.

That would be the only just collaboration between Apple and Mike 'every song has exactly the same melody/harmony including the ones I produce for other artists like Lupe Fiasco' Shinoda.

It would be crazy if we could get a few scratches over the chorus!!!

-MD

[sethypoo]

Hybrid Theory wasn't bad at all...

Hear hear, Hybrid Theory was a great album. There current one though...brings new meaning to craptacular.

[dwman]

This guy on you tube did a dead-on parody of LP. His singing isn't all that great, but listen to the lyrics. He basically busts on the band for all their songs sounding the same.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JYNRhzX6gw8

[dcsipe]

Pretty sweet false logic there, fella. I'm not sure why it is that because I'm not famous that I'm not allowed to like a band... but you go right on ahead with your reasoning. Additionally... being "cool" has nothing to do with being well known in a 'worldly' sense, or otherwise.

Either your typing needs some work or you aren't making sense. I never said that you couldn't like a band because you weren't famous. My point was that people are acting like they "know" music so well and feel the need to define (or lack thereof) why the band sucks.

So it's false logic to say someone doesn't know what they're talking about when they aren't in a famous band themselves, produced no music, isn't in the music industry and isn't a music critic for a living?? I guess by YOUR logic, everyone is an expert on everything then.

Since I'm guessing you are the expert on 'cool', what exactly is the definition??

[Duncan-Idaho]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A93 Safari/419.3)

Let me be the hundredth person to say Linkin Park sucks horribly. Just listen to any random Led Zeppelin track, then put on a Linkin Park song. There is no comparison. Using Zeppelin as a rating tool, one soon realizes musical talent does not exist in the world today. And if you hate Zeppelin, I'm sure there's a local insane asylum that would be glad to have you...

[7even]

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Let me be the hundredth person to say Linkin Park sucks horribly. Just listen to any random Led Zeppelin track, then put on a Linkin Park song. There is no comparison. Using Zeppelin as a rating tool, one soon realizes musical talent does not exist in the world today. And if you hate Zeppelin, I'm sure there's a local insane asylum that would be glad to have you...

Let me be the hundredth person to say that music, like any other type of art, is subjective. I'm not a fan of Led Zeppelin, but I wouldn't go out of my way to say that they suck or anything :rolleyes:

I wish people could stay more on topic lol

[Shagrat]

I'm so avant garde I hate every band ever. I only listen to acts that play in their own garages. As soon as they get a pub gig I reject them as lyrical sell-outs and move on. I also post about it on the internet. Voted negative for this story.

Wow! So you probably must like every band I'VE ever played in.

Never sold out by actually performing live.

(Heh-heh!)

Never actually listened to any Linkin music myself, but if it were Foo Fighters...then count me in!

... What did you expect? A guy playing avant-garde jazz with a Tibetan nose flute?


(looks into camera with smug grin...) !Mnnn! Nice!!

[Shadow]

You're really insulted because the guy doesn't like a band you like? I'm going to assume your post was sarcastic.

I'm not insulted because he doesnt like LP (its great that he doesn't, makes it easier for me to get tickets ;)), I'm insulted that just because I like LP he/she makes unfounded claims of LP fans having "no sense of musical taste or history or theory". For all he knows, I could be a huge fan of U2 or whoever he/she likes, or a holder of a degree in musical history/theory (I dont like/have either, but that's beside the point).

I'm fine with people saying "I done like LP", just as long as they dont insult me because I do.

[koobcamuk]

I'm so avant garde I hate every band ever. I only listen to acts that play in their own garages. As soon as they get a pub gig I reject them as lyrical sell-outs and move on. I also post about it on the internet. Voted negative for this story.

What a legendary post.

[newrigel]

Get Judas Priest!
Judas Priest would be killer!
I can see it now... Halford throwing a Mac Book Air down on the stage and piercing a high note...

[latestmonkey]

Well I just went on youtube, found a linkin park video, watched it... and the conclusion is that they do in fact suck.

How formulaic can you be?

Ben Folds was right on (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlGCTWL6djo) even if he wrote that song about Korn.

[philbeeney]

Get Judas Priest!
Judas Priest would be killer!
I can see it now... Halford throwing a Mac Book Air down on the stage and piercing a high note...

Now that I would pay good money to see. :D

[ChrisK018]

First Apple gets some deal going with Starbucks-swilling numb skulls and now they have Linkin Park playing their events? What's going on?!? Are they trying to create some vortex of suckitude?

Bad Apple! Bad!

[hyroboarder]

What, was Simple Plan already booked? :p

[ert3]

A band for just an SDK, (EVEN IF IT IS A SH**Y ONE).

Makes you wonder what else they have waiting around the bend.

[BrianFD3S]

I'm so avant garde I hate every band ever. I only listen to acts that play in their own garages. As soon as they get a pub gig I reject them as lyrical sell-outs and move on. I also post about it on the internet. Voted negative for this story.

I love you a little.

---

Sure, I don't like Linkin Park a whole lot, but what does it matter? If having to put up with LP mid-keynote bothers you, it's not a big deal to fast-forward.

If they had Radiohead playing, I wouldn't FF. I would dearly love to see Steve Jobs have a dance-off with Thom Yorke during Idioteque.

[TimTheEnchanter]

For your sake I hope you're not being facetious... or rather for my sanity's sake :confused:

ugh! do the time conversion. New York on this Thursday at 9:05 AM CET :cool: ;) :D

[Cygnus311]

http://www.threadless.com/blogproduct/917/I_Listen_To_Bands

[mzd]

Well I just went on youtube, found a linkin park video, watched it... and the conclusion is that they do in fact suck.

How formulaic can you be?

Ben Folds was right on (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlGCTWL6djo) even if he wrote that song about Korn.

pretty sure that song was about limp bizkit. ben folds dons the trademark red cap when he plays it live. but regardless, that song is classic! that and limp bizkit and korn are basically interchangeable.

[stupidregister]

Appreciation of music is subjective, but history of music is a science.
History is not science. Do you also think astrology is science?

This really has nothing to do with snobbery. It indeed has more to do with knowing what the frick about music. And don't give me that "but it sounds good!" BS. That's how the Nazis took over Germany!
You l like the sound of C better than C#? Oh noes!!! But that is how the Nazis took over Germany!!!

[ydb1914]

History is not science. Do you also think astrology is science?

you made my day...can't stop laughing...thanks:D

[tothelimit]

i haven't had a chance to read all the way through the posts on this thread... but has anyone confirmed that media/press has been invited to an event tomorrow? i've seen a few posts citing Linkin Park's tour schedule... showing that they'll be in NY tomorrow. and I think I saw someone saying a 'source' told them the MBPs might be coming tomorrow (I've heard that before). I was just wondering if any media has been invited, because if apple is releasing anything I'm sure they'll want cameras there.

[stupidregister]

you made my day...can't stop laughing...thanks:D
Really? Not sure why, unless maybe you've confused astrology with astronomy.

[ydb1914]

Really? Not sure why, unless maybe you've confused astrology with astronomy.

don't worry, i know what you meant & the difference between the 2....major in science :cool:

[tothelimit]

i forgot to add...

i'm also sorta confused by this... if this linkin park thing is really planned to coincide with the SDK release and/or MBP update (or any hardware release, really)... why? there seems to be no connection :confused: has apple historically had musical guests for releases that are not music/itunes related? (i mean aside from MAJOR events like Macworld)

could it possibly just be like a surprise in-store performance?

[usingpond]

History is not science. Do you also think astrology is science?

Well I didn't mean literally, though you by all means have the right to point that out. I meant that history is typically supported by facts and concrete evidence, conjecture, and all that. In that regard, it is much more like science than art.

My point was that we can argue all day whether or not a band has a good sound to us, but something we can't really argue (though on forums any argument is possible I suppose) is the history of music. If you are a popular music nerd like I am, you'll understand what I mean when I say Linkin Park sucks.

Please just remember music nerd =/= music snob.

For example, almost everyone loves Zep. I don't really care for them that much, mostly because I don't really dig arena rock for obvious reasons, but at the same time, they certainly don't suck. I reserve the word "suck" for a very specific instance, and that is usually Linkin Park and Dave Matthews Band. When you look at popular music from an analytical approach, there is certainly an objective means for deciding what "sucks."

[SamIchi]

I'm so avant garde I hate every band ever. I only listen to acts that play in their own garages. As soon as they get a pub gig I reject them as lyrical sell-outs and move on. I also post about it on the internet. Voted negative for this story.

:D

Bottom line: Musical taste is subjective, and in terms of popularity, talent is arbitrary.

Some people like screaming and simple power chord progressions; some don't. Is there really need to argue about it? LP is an A list band. They sell out shows, so maybe Apple is simply trying to appeal to different audiences.

P.S. Regardless of ones interest in LP. This rumor is a good sign and certainly more credible than the, "I know a guy who knows a guy" rumors we've been dealing with since MWSF 2008. (That said, I still believe Tailpipe).

Atleast some people on this board have some sense.

Linkin Park is a roller-coaster, Linkin Park is a roller-coaster, Linkin Park is a roller-coaster...
Because like a roller coaster, Linkin Park may seem dangerous or appear rebellious while in fact it’s perfectly safe for family fun, the danger is an illusion, and they’ve been duped by marketing hype.

Who's looking for danger? This is music.

What I don't understand is why people hate on certain artists. If you don't listen to them who the hell cares. Did Linkin Park touch you at night?

[mactastic1971]

American Idol...
Now I think we can all agree that it sucks !!!
I hope Apple ask Sanjaya to put his mowhawk back on and perform.
Hahahaha

[usingpond]

What I don't understand is why people hate on certain artists. If you don't listen to them who the hell cares.


This is why some people care:

... talent is arbitrary.


People care because we, as the human race, have a vested cultural interest in making sure that we have only people with talent performing music. Talent can be developed, those without it are simply not interested in developing it (or too lazy).

You know, just because you don't give a flying bleep about a band does not mean that no one else has the right to. Popular music, like government, is something we all own, and must take responsibility for. We elect popular artists like we elect officials.

If you don't understand what I'm talking about, great, who cares. But don't just say stupid crap like people don't have the right to mention anything bad about your favorite band or whatever. It's like saying people can't attack Bush. That gets you labeled as a "fascist," why shouldn't what you people are saying?

[SamIchi]

Please just remember music nerd =/= music snob.

For example, almost everyone loves Zep. I don't really care for them that much, mostly because I don't really dig arena rock for obvious reasons, but at the same time, they certainly don't suck. I reserve the word "suck" for a very specific instance, and that is usually Linkin Park and Dave Matthews Band. When you look at popular music from an analytical approach, there is certainly an objective means for deciding what "sucks."

That to me right there says music snob.

People care because we, as the human race, have a vested cultural interest in making sure that we have only people with talent performing music. Talent can be developed, those without it are simply not interested in developing it (or too lazy).

You know, just because you don't give a flying bleep about a band does not mean that no one else has the right to. Popular music, like government, is something we all own, and must take responsibility for. We elect popular artists like we elect officials.

If you don't understand what I'm talking about, great, who cares. But don't just say stupid crap like people don't have the right to mention anything bad about your favorite band or whatever. It's like saying people can't attack Bush. That gets you labeled as a "fascist," why shouldn't what you people are saying?

I never said that no one has the right to hate. I don't care, hate all you want, say this band sucks, or that artist has no talent. I just see it as pointless, when you should be enjoying music for what it is.

You're comparing popular music to the government? Get the hell out of here. The government runs our lives, pop music, not so much. Sure I support artists I like, but if they make an album I don't like, I sure as hope it doesn't effect my life as a citizen of this country. I think the entertainment business has got into your head a little too much.

[usingpond]

You're comparing popular music to the government? Get the hell out of here. The government runs our lives, pop music, not so much. Sure I support artists I like, but if they make an album I don't like, I sure as hope it doesn't effect my life as a citizen of this country. I think the entertainment business has got into your head a little too much.


1) Government is not here to "run our lives" go read the constitution.
2) Music DOES run some people's lives. For some, their entire life revolves around music. It really doesn't matter to you, and that's fine. Think of it how some people here have their lives revolve around Apple. We think it's pretty geeky, but to them it's an entire lifestyle.
3) The fact that you see it as an "entertainment business" punctuates what is wrong with Linkin Park and all the other "entertainers." Musicians do not (or should not I suppose) exists solely to entertain people.

I think you watch a little too much MTV dude. It's fine, we probably all do. I hate to sound like one of those FREE YOUR MIND DUDE people, but like I said it's not about "entertainment." There used to be a degree of artistic integrity within popular music.

[mactastic1971]

1) Government is not here to "run our lives" go read the constitution.


Except the US government ban the US media from filming dead troops coming back from Iraq? I'd say that's not freedom of speech !!!

Government = Media = same *****
Have you watched Bowling For Columbine ???
This nation is run on fear.

[ChrisK018]

I am a music snob and I can't stand Linkin Park. There. I said it. How many people who first heard them when their age did not end it end in "teen" actually like them?

I'm a little annoyed that Apple would want to give money to those dopes to hear them play, but whatever. If Apple associated with the music-snob type bands I like then 10 people would show up with their arms folded and quietly nod their heads. Sweet.

Also a bit let down that there is a Zune commercial with the Shins and an HP add with Flaming Lips. It's only slightly more fun to love a band than it is to hate on some other band.

[usingpond]

Also a bit let down that there is a Zune commercial with the Shins and an HP add with Flaming Lips.

This. THIS.

Apple has been bested in cool points. Is this what you people want to happen?! This has been Apple's entire strategy for a decade!

[jpine]

I am a music snob and I can't stand Linkin Park. There. I said it. How many people who first heard them when their age did not end it end in "teen" actually like them?

I'm a little annoyed that Apple would want to give money to those dopes to hear them play, but whatever. If Apple associated with the music-snob type bands I like then 10 people would show up with their arms folded and quietly nod their heads. Sweet.

Also a bit let down that there is a Zune commercial with the Shins and an HP add with Flaming Lips. It's only slightly more fun to love a band than it is to hate on some other band.

I need to get out more. I have not even heard of Linkin Park. Then again, I am over 45.

[latestmonkey]

Other than the fact that Linkin Park is an affront to people with good musical taste, they simply are the wrong marketing message for apple. That's what's wrong with Linkin Park.

Apple's whole point is being innovative, creative, hip, and useful. Everything that Linkin Park is not. The world would not be a worse place if Linkin Park did not exist.

[FleurDuMal]

Linkin Park are still alive? I assumed they died along with the likes of Limp Biscuit...

[usingpond]

Who's up for signing a petition to Apple's marketing department? We cannot sit idly by and let this happen.

[BRLawyer]

Linkin Park are still alive? I assumed they died along with the likes of Limp Biscuit...

Good point; you may also add modern Metallica and Korn (with that stupidly arrogant four-eyed member) to the equation. I am happy to see that, apart from some PC lovers in this forum, there are still people with some sense of taste in music.

Linkin Park and any other nu-metal band (notably those coming from the US) suck, period. Anyone who disagrees with this simple fact should be suspended from this forum. :rolleyes:

[SamIchi]

1) Government is not here to "run our lives" go read the constitution.

I didn't mean literally run our lives... but there is truth to that statement, but that's for another debate.


2) Music DOES run some people's lives. For some, their entire life revolves around music. It really doesn't matter to you, and that's fine. Think of it how some people here have their lives revolve around Apple. We think it's pretty geeky, but to them it's an entire lifestyle.

Yea, fanatics, which brings me back to my point. It's not worth getting all worked up about it. We don't work for Apple, we don't work for "whatever band" we are just fans. But even with Mac vs PC, we have things to back us up, with music it's just art.


3) The fact that you see it as an "entertainment business" punctuates what is wrong with Linkin Park and all the other "entertainers." Musicians do not (or should not I suppose) exists solely to entertain people.

What's your point here? If they aren't there to entertain people, I dont' know what they are doing. It's their life, it's a business, unless they purely devote their music making for music sake and their peers, I don't see how pop musicians aren't just there to entertain. I don't know how this got to this point, but I'm just trying to say people take their fanaticism to seriously.



I think you watch a little too much MTV dude. It's fine, we probably all do. I hate to sound like one of those FREE YOUR MIND DUDE people, but like I said it's not about "entertainment." There used to be a degree of artistic integrity within popular music.

Actually I don't watch any MTV, I stopped watching years ago. Again the degree of artistic integrity in pop music is subjective, to think of pop music as anything other than an entertainment business, is totally delusional.

[pine1045]

Where are the moderators to sift through this crap? Linkin Park being a good bad or a crap one, petty arguments of government and the media. This is supposed to be about a possible "secret" event, what it might mean, when it might be, and what we might see. 90% of this trash has nothing to do with the article.

[Rhinestorm]

Don't ask, in this case, ignorance is indeed bliss.

No. Bliss is ignorance.

[mrat93]

http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/linkin_park/tours.jhtml

I say we'll hear something in the next couple days.

[pine1045]

http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/linkin_park/tours.jhtml

I say we'll hear something in the next couple days.

I hope you're right but has Apple ever made an announcement on a day other than Tuesday? Granted Leopard did come out on a Friday but we knew that ahead of time. I'm about at my rope's end waiting on a new MBP. It has just become ridiculous with the delay.

[mrat93]

I hope you're right but has Apple ever made an announcement on a day other than Tuesday? Granted Leopard did come out on a Friday but we knew that ahead of time. I'm about at my rope's end waiting on a new MBP. It has just become ridiculous with the delay.

I'm sure they have made announcements on other days. It makes sense.... a big band that happens to be in NYC who happens to be participating with Apple in NYC when Apple has something big expected due in late Feb.

[Sky Blue]

90% of this trash has nothing to do with the article.

Welcome to MacRumors!

[phillipjfry]

I do enjoy the posts that deplict how much linkin park sucks, but won't comment as to what their favorite band is or what they consider better :)

Linkin park = teh great

eye (ear?) of the beholder, I guess. :rolleyes:

[beatzfreak]

Just to add to the mystery, there were a bunch of Disney/ Pixar trailers on 14th street near the Apple store today. It's probably just a movie being filmed and has nothing to do with Apple.

Who knows.

[skorpien]

Just to add to the mystery, there were a bunch of Disney/ Pixar trailers on 14th street near the Apple store today. It's probably just a movie being filmed and has nothing to do with Apple.

Who knows.

Doesn't Disney/Pixar create CG movies? Maybe they're using some Mac Pros to do some rendering :p

[pine1045]

Welcome to MacRumors!

HAH! thanks

[TimTheEnchanter]

Just to add to the mystery, there were a bunch of Disney/ Pixar trailers on 14th street near the Apple store today. It's probably just a movie being filmed and has nothing to do with Apple.

Who knows.

Interesting! That inside source just sent me this web graphic. Things are looking pretty weird for this event is all I can say. :eek: :D ;)

[eraser85]

I hope you're right but has Apple ever made an announcement on a day other than Tuesday? Granted Leopard did come out on a Friday but we knew that ahead of time. I'm about at my rope's end waiting on a new MBP. It has just become ridiculous with the delay.

I'm all for the new technologies etc.. but I really need a MBP to present my thesis among other things... I can't care less if they are going to update it the first day of March or later.. I'm gonna get one of the current ones the next Tuesday..

[deejemon]

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[latestmonkey]

Whether or not YOU like Linkin Park is really immaterial. As with the iPod ads, the music and artist are chosen to attract certain people. And that's probably not you. You're already here, aren't you. And it's probably not Steve Jobs' bag either. But it will work. And that's all that matters.

That's not entirely true. Your repeat customers are a key source of revenue. It's almost the same as automotive purchases. Let's say you bought a BMW. BMW spends an awful lot of money making sure you are happy with all the status and connotation that goes with buying a BMW (aside from actually making a good product of course) so when the time comes to rebuy, you don't defect to Lexus or Mercedes, etc. Is it not the same with Apple?

Sure, they have me hooked with OSX. I'm certainly never switching to Vista. But if Linkin Park is associated with itunes and, say, Radiohead is associated with Amazon's mp3 store, don't you think that matters to a lot of people?

[gusapple]

I hope you're right but has Apple ever made an announcement on a day other than Tuesday? Granted Leopard did come out on a Friday but we knew that ahead of time. I'm about at my rope's end waiting on a new MBP. It has just become ridiculous with the delay.

However, the Macbook Air was released on a Friday. So, there is a small small small chance that we will see the Event then. The problem is, though, that we already knew about Leopard and the Macbook Air before the release.

[crocodile05]

I have a feeling it was an awesome performance! All the nu-metal fanboys are fans for a reason....they like good music. besides, LP has since changed their sound.

[deejemon]

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[usingpond]

Okay, listen. I'm sick of this being even a discussion.

Linkin Park, Staind, Puddle of Mudd, and whatever other crappy nü-metalband that intentionally misspells their awful name, sucks. In fact, that entire genre is a pox upon most people's ears.

I know that's just one man's opinion, but one good way to tell whether or not there is a consensus on a band's suckage is whether or not people outside the genre like them. Nobody who doesn't like Nü-metal likes Linkin Park. Plenty of people who don't like indie rock, for example, like bands like Radiohead and Band of Horses. Plenty of people who don't like punk rock like the Clash. And plenty of people who don't like R&B/Pop like Gnarls Barkley. I am not personally promoting these groups but instead looking at them objectively.

Linkin Park and the rest of the genre are not respected among other musicians, music press, or people who don't listen to the genre. This is key. NOT RESPECTED. Nobody but their fans really think they are cool or compelling enough to be in a commercial.

Apple likes to use bands that there is a buzz around. Simply because your ear is not tuned to music industry buzz does not mean this band is not important. People like the next big thing, which is why it was a perfect moment for Feist, for example. When you have the next big thing in your commercial, people who pay attention to this sort of thing have their ears perked and their attention piqued, and will probably the respect the brand a little bit more for paying attention to what's going on in music.
Another advantage is attaching the music to a product before the song is mainstream. Then, when the artist suddenly becomes popular, people attach their single mentally to an Apple product.

Linkin Park is not new or catchy or respected. Apple artists are usually all three and always at least two.


If you happen to like Linkin Park, sorry I said they suck, yes that was my personal opinion. But look closely, there is probably some truth to what I said, try to be objective about it. I'm 21 and I can realize when a band I like sucks, hopefully you can do the same.

[luffytubby]

Okay, listen. I'm sick of this being even a discussion.

Linkin Park, Staind, Puddle of Mudd, and whatever other crappy nü-metalband that intentionally misspells their awful name, sucks. In fact, that entire genre is a pox upon most people's ears.

I know that's just one man's opinion, but one good way to tell whether or not there is a consensus on a band's suckage is whether or not people outside the genre like them. Nobody who doesn't like Nü-metal likes Linkin Park. Plenty of people who don't like indie rock, for example, like bands like Radiohead and Band of Horses. Plenty of people who don't like punk rock like the Clash. And plenty of people who don't like R&B/Pop like Gnarls Barkley. I am not personally promoting these groups but instead looking at them objectively.

Linkin Park and the rest of the genre are not respected among other musicians, music press, or people who don't listen to the genre. This is key. NOT RESPECTED. Nobody but their fans really think they are cool or compelling enough to be in a commercial.

Apple likes to use bands that there is a buzz around. Simply because your ear is not tuned to music industry buzz does not mean this band is not important. People like the next big thing, which is why it was a perfect moment for Feist, for example. When you have the next big thing in your commercial, people who pay attention to this sort of thing have their ears perked and their attention piqued, and will probably the respect the brand a little bit more for paying attention to what's going on in music.
Another advantage is attaching the music to a product before the song is mainstream. Then, when the artist suddenly becomes popular, people attach their single mentally to an Apple product.

Linkin Park is not new or catchy or respected. Apple artists are usually all three and always at least two.


If you happen to like Linkin Park, sorry I said they suck, yes that was my personal opinion. But look closely, there is probably some truth to what I said, try to be objective about it. I'm 21 and I can realize when a band I like sucks, hopefully you can do the same.

Well, I am 20 years(21 soon) and I love Linkin Park. I think they are a great Rock band, with catchy music. I like to workout to Linkin Park.
I am surprised that you are saying that, none but their fans find them compelling enough to be in a commercial.
I think exactly the opposite. Linkin Parks music is used in a great deal of videos in about everything... AMV, music videos... Linkin Parks music is very mainstream in my opinion, and it goes well with many things. It's mainstream collaboration of rock, pop, electronic, and hiphop all mashed into one.
I think this is the "center" of Linkin Park.
But then again, I honestly don't hate alot of music. I have my preferences, but most stuff that I hear I can tolerate just fine. And if I didn't, I wouldn't make long posts on the internet about why I didn't like them. Peace.

[usingpond]

used in a great deal of videos in about everything... AMV, music videos...

We can argue all day, but this right here is the pretty much the quintessential reason they are a bad choice.


Linkin Parks music is very mainstream in my opinion

This right here means the meaning of my post was completely lost.


Also:
I like to workout to Linkin Park


Listen, I know I'm coming off like a total troll, but music is something I get pretty emotional about. The idea of Nü-metal is completely revolting to me.

Are you joking?

[batchtaster]

Listen, I know I'm coming off like a total troll, but music is something I get pretty emotional about. The idea of Nü-metal is completely revolting to me.

Ergo, Apple should keep you (specifically, you) happy, and not use Linkin Park, because YOU don't like them. And, since you get "pretty emotional about" music, that also means your opinion is far more worthy or important. Again, therefore Apple should satisfy you rather than anyone else who might actually like Linkin Park, because clearly they are WRONG and you are RIGHT rather than it being a difference of taste.

Interesting planet you live on. Do they have oxygen there?

[usingpond]

Ergo, Apple should keep you (specifically, you) happy, and not use Linkin Park, because YOU don't like them. And, since you get "pretty emotional about" music, that also means your opinion is far more worthy or important. Again, therefore Apple should satisfy you rather than anyone else who might actually like Linkin Park, because clearly they are WRONG and you are RIGHT rather than it being a difference of taste.

Interesting planet you live on. Do they have oxygen there?


Did you do a search for Linkin Park or something?


I was being pretty objective about it; conceding that perhaps I have liked terrible bands (and I might even still like some). I did not say anything about my taste being better, or my bands being great.


Think abstractly for a moment. I welcome an intelligent, rational debate; but I really don't think you seem to want to do this. I think your ego is in the way.

[macwall]

Apple has introduced me to some new music that I really liked, but I don't think Linkin Park is capable of producing anything new. Have you heard their song mashups? It's all the same.

[batchtaster]

Did you do a search for Linkin Park or something?

No, I just did the same thing you just did.

I was being pretty objective about it; conceding that perhaps I have liked terrible bands (and I might even still like some). I did not say anything about my taste being better, or my bands being great.

Heh. "Objective", huh?

Linkin Park, Staind, Puddle of Mudd, and whatever other crappy nü-metalband that intentionally misspells their awful name, sucks. In fact, that entire genre is a pox upon most people's ears.

If you happen to like Linkin Park, sorry I said they suck, yes that was my personal opinion. But look closely, there is probably some truth to what I said, try to be objective about it.

Just as you were objective? Sorry, but bagging something out that someone enjoys does not escape a reply just because you dismissively suffix it with "try to be objective" (implying that anyone who disagrees with you and likes what you hate is not being objective). Particularly when it's dripping with superciliousness, urging others to "look closely"; that clearly they missed something that your superior intellect caught. You do not get to be the arbiter of taste, no matter how refined you think yours is, regardless of what subtleties you may have picked up that others have not. Look closely at yourself instead.

Think abstractly for a moment. I welcome an intelligent, rational debate; but I really don't think you seem to want to do this. I think your ego is in the way.

Pseudo-intellectualistic snobbery bores me. Your personal music taste is unimportant in Apple's marketing, is no more valid than anyone else's, and your attitute towards tastes that differs from yours demonstrates intolerance. End of story.

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Pseudo-intellectualistic snobbery bores me. Your personal music taste is unimportant in Apple's marketing, is no more valid than anyone else's, and your attitute towards tastes that differs from yours demonstrates intolerance. End of story.

Actually, being a twenty-something white male who lives in New York City and listens to indie and electronic music makes me exactly what Apple panders to; or at least tries to associate with. You don't even know what you're talking about.

Do you ever see Justin Long with spiky gelled hair, UFO pants and fly sunglasses? Sorry man, Nü-Metal is not counter-culture (read: "cool") enough for Apple to give a ****.