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robrose20
Feb 19, 2008, 06:25 PM
Well, I finally checked out the MBA. I am not that impressed with it. First off it is the same size as the MB, thinner yes, but this the same size. Too be honest I didn't even notice that much of a difference in the weight when I carried it in a bag.

Now for what I liked. Sexy as hell, nice display, actually not that slow, like the trackpad.

It really isn't as advertised as an ultraportable, it is not worth the money, the blackbook (which sat beside it) had the same profile and occupied the same amount of desk space.

I would buy a blackbook any day over this thing. Its not worth the money ..

Just my 2 cents.



mr.light
Feb 19, 2008, 06:30 PM
It really isn't as advertised as an ultraportable, it is not worth the money, the blackbook (which sat beside it) had the same profile and occupied the same amount of desk space.


Does Apple bill this as an Ultra portable? I thought they just said ultra thin.

robrose20
Feb 19, 2008, 06:32 PM
Does Apple bill this as an Ultra portable? I thought they just said ultra thin.

ummmm..... unless I've had a massive stroke, it has been advertised as apple's answer to ultraportable computers...... I better get to the ER.

Theatrics
Feb 19, 2008, 06:36 PM
I agree. I think it is too expensive for what it is. I always thought of it as the pros equal out with the cons: Getting less, but in a thinner more portable package with better battery life, and so I figured the price would be the same as the macbooks.

mr.light
Feb 19, 2008, 06:42 PM
ummmm..... unless I've had a massive stroke, it has been advertised as apple's answer to ultraportable computers...... I better get to the ER.

Yup. Guess you are right. I Think I would get this though over a machine with a smaller screen. The black book is a full 2 pounds heavier than the Air. I do agree that it is priced a wee bit on the high side. But then again most Apple products are.

cedar
Feb 19, 2008, 06:44 PM
Well, I finally checked out the MBA. I am not that impressed with it. First off it is the same size as the MB, thinner yes, but this the same size. Too be honest I didn't even notice that much of a difference in the weight when I carried it in a bag.

Now for what I liked. Sexy as hell, nice display, actually not that slow, like the trackpad.

It really isn't as advertised as an ultraportable, it is not worth the money, the blackbook (which sat beside it) had the same profile and occupied the same amount of desk space.

I would buy a blackbook any day over this thing. Its not worth the money ..

Just my 2 cents.

They let you put it in a bag? Your Apple store is a lot more lax than mine, which had an alarm attached. Sorry you didn't like it, but it would be a boring world........ Being not worth the money?....that's all relative. It was worth the money to me.

cohibadad
Feb 19, 2008, 06:46 PM
the weight difference is dramatic when carried as I carry both. I guess if you carry it in your bag you probably would notice less, but I carry mine bare as I use it frequently on the go.

robrose20
Feb 19, 2008, 06:46 PM
They let you put it in a bag? Your Apple store is a lot more lax than mine, which had an alarm attached. Sorry you didn't like it, but it would be a boring world........ Being not worth the money?....that's all relative. It was worth the money to me.

Wasn't at an apple store, a friend of mine is an authorized apple reseller ...

cedar
Feb 19, 2008, 06:50 PM
Wasn't at an apple store, a friend of mine is an authorized apple reseller ...

That's good. Most places bracket their computers down so you can't even lift them to see how they feel. Footprint is not important to me but weight is.

chickenninja
Feb 19, 2008, 06:51 PM
well as far as processing and graphical power goes, its nearly the same as a macbook, the only thing its missing is storage potential and I/O but you gotta remember the macbook was the ultalight portable of yesteryear, now that the air is out the whole mobile linup is going to shift. the macbooks will probably move into a category similar to the 15" imac. of course there are 2 other market qweks of the air and the name is the most revealing of the 2 and that is that its the super-wireless product designed to test the waters for a computer yet to come that wont have any ports and will be entirely wireless, and the second market qwerk is to bridge the gap between ipods and macs
so bolth ipods and mac are slowly moving closer together. cause really the ipod touch is the ultra portable, whatever comes out to bridge the ipods with macbooks is going to hathe to be and will be absolutely stellar. how do i know this, its obvious. and i would expect a macbook update sooner than a macbook pro update because the air didnt replace the macbook. but i think bolth are fairly immenent.

ks-man
Feb 19, 2008, 06:57 PM
I think from a purely value point of view there is no question about it, you can do better. This is true of many Apple products. Granted here we are comparing one Apple laptop to another.

However for people who are willing to pay a little extra for the sexiness of it (and it is sexy), it is very useful for what it has. My wife and I have been using it for a week (I bought an ethernet adapter and will get the superdrive when it comes in stock) and we really love what it offers.

It is lightning quick for normal use and the battery has been great (often 4 hours). We knew we were going to pay more over the Macbook but we have been more than happy with the decision. If you are looking for the best value, this computer isn't for you. If you can afford and don't mind spending a little more money, you won't be disappointed.

Just my $.02

tMac85
Feb 19, 2008, 07:20 PM
you are paying for the "first" and the Design. Its the FIRST VERY thin computer. ( not just thin, there are others) and the design, as apple always does well, allows them to charge what they want. Its over priced, but overpriced for a reason.

Cybergypsy
Feb 19, 2008, 07:29 PM
Its not for everyone , but its sure for me.........

NC MacGuy
Feb 19, 2008, 07:37 PM
Have both. Giving the MB Black to someone else in the company. The Air is a much more sophisticated laptop. The Air is cool enough to actually sit in my lap unlike the MB. And no fingerprints. And nice keyboard w. backlighting. And non-greasy looking trackpad. And multitouch. And no creaky hinge or cheap looking plastic. And very bright display.. They are really two different animals and appeal to different demographics. My kids LOVE the MB. I need a professional looking computer for corp. meetings and the MBP was too large for travel and the MB always looked cheap and dirty. After three weeks with the Air I'm extremely pleased w. my purchase and hopefully you'd be as pleased w. a MB black. The Air's build quality is best Apple product I've seen in years hands down. I was never this happy w. the MB ever, and I went through a few of them. Overpriced? I don't think so. You absolutely do notice the difference in weight if you run through a lot of airports.

Munich
Feb 19, 2008, 08:07 PM
Hi fellas, I am very new to the Mac World, but I have more than 10 years of experience with Windows. I currently have a Dell XPS 1210, a T60P and a company's issued HP 14" that I not even recall the model.

I like the Air much more than the other 3 that I have, I used to love the XPS 1210 and now I could care less about it. And keep in mind that I still don't know how to use Leopard...But I will make the investment in learning it. I thought that I would sell it, and now I am hooked to it.

cedar
Feb 19, 2008, 08:14 PM
Hi fellas, I am very new to the Mac World, but I have more than 10 years of experience with Windows. I currently have a Dell XPS 1210, a T60P and a company's issued HP 14" that I not even recall the model.

I like the Air much more than the other 3 that I have, I used to love the XPS 1210 and now I could care less about it. And keep in mind that I still don't know how to use Leopard...But I will make the investment in learning it. I thought that I would sell it, and now I am hooked to it.

The Air is my first Apple computer also. Love it. I have two almost new PC's, a Toshiba and an HP. Makes me wonder how many Air buyers are also first time Apple computer buyers.

QCassidy352
Feb 19, 2008, 08:16 PM
I too just got to check one out for the first time, and I was very, very impressed. I cannot buy one because I need the greater number of ports on my macbook, but the air was amazingly light, yet felt extremely solid. It also feels very fast (very subjective, just from playing with it in the store). Also, great display, and the instant-on is pretty cool.

xparaparafreakx
Feb 19, 2008, 08:16 PM
I would buy a blackbook any day over this thing. Its not worth the money ..


Ill never buy a blackbook any day.

Macbook Air and Macbook Pro 17"

Air is light but since you don't care about weight, why don't you go 17"? Its only 2 pounds more, that like nothing right?

sushi
Feb 19, 2008, 08:23 PM
To the OP, to each his own.

For those who need a lightweight capable laptop, the MBA fits the bill. Most business folks that I know carry papers so the MBA is the perfect size footprint wise, and the thinness is nice.

instant hit
Feb 19, 2008, 09:11 PM
It really isn't as advertised as an ultraportable, it is not worth the money, the blackbook (which sat beside it) had the same profile and occupied the same amount of desk space.

I would buy a blackbook any day over this thing. Its not worth the money ..

Just my 2 cents.

strong words, my friend. taking the mba out of the context of its market. we could debate all day about what market the mba is for, but the fact of the matter is that the mb is for mainstream users, whereas the mbp is for the on-the-go professional or for those who simply "want to have it all." a simple google search for "ultraportable" yields notebooks in excess of $2000; not worth the money? in its context, the mba is certainly worth the money. you could argue for the eeepc, which also classifies as an ultraportable. but show me an ultraportable that doesn't sacrifice the keyboard, that doesn't generate heat in the worst of places, and that doesn't sacrifice productivity; and i'll show you an mba.

to beat a dead horse, it's all relative. it cost me an extra $600 to have something that puts the lap back in laptop. a macbook (or even the 12" pb) certainly could not step up to that challenge.

just my two cents :)

n8kwx
Feb 19, 2008, 09:17 PM
One other advantage of the MBA over a "blackbook" is the display. It is easily worth a couple hundred dollar premium.

The display in the MBA is much brighter (LED backlighting) and has a much better viewing angle.

In this world you get what you pay for. And there are things not obvious in simple "spec" analysis - like the display quality.

If we bought everything according to "specs" we'd all be driving Kia minivans. Best space per dollar ratio. And no one would buy a Ferrari. Poor space per dollar ratio...

mac jones
Feb 19, 2008, 09:21 PM
I think if sales are a bit slow they will drop the price about $200 to $300

The recent past being a guide, Apple has no aversion to this kind of pricing strangeness (iPhone)

Hence a reduction of negative threads in forums and actually a few "good deal" comments.

I do think the price needs to drop.

Thi
Feb 19, 2008, 09:27 PM
I'm surprise that the op doesn't feel a difference in weight. I played with one for the first time and it is much lighter. As far as purchasing it for my own personal use, I cannot justify paying the premium just to save weight & be slim. On the other hand I think its perfect for the ladies my GF is planning to get one and I think its perfect for her. Light, thin profile, and easy to carry around school. I'm a man, I don't mind carrying an extra pound or two especially if it packs more power. And yes I do think you might be a sissy for buying a MBA instead of a MBP. :p

steffi
Feb 19, 2008, 11:04 PM
Yeah I also wasn't impressed with the MBA. Since it had a keyboard and a screen and it ran stuff.

Well, I finally checked out the MBA. I am not that impressed with it. First off it is the same size as the MB, thinner yes, but this the same size. Too be honest I didn't even notice that much of a difference in the weight when I carried it in a bag.

Now for what I liked. Sexy as hell, nice display, actually not that slow, like the trackpad.

It really isn't as advertised as an ultraportable, it is not worth the money, the blackbook (which sat beside it) had the same profile and occupied the same amount of desk space.

I would buy a blackbook any day over this thing. Its not worth the money ..

Just my 2 cents.

Mikebuzzsaw
Feb 19, 2008, 11:20 PM
Well, I finally checked out the MBA. I am not that impressed with it. First off it is the same size as the MB, thinner yes, but this the same size. Too be honest I didn't even notice that much of a difference in the weight when I carried it in a bag.

Now for what I liked. Sexy as hell, nice display, actually not that slow, like the trackpad.

It really isn't as advertised as an ultraportable, it is not worth the money, the blackbook (which sat beside it) had the same profile and occupied the same amount of desk space.

I would buy a blackbook any day over this thing. Its not worth the money ..

Just my 2 cents.

Did anyone ask you for your opinion? Not to be an ass, but isn't it kinda arrogant of you to come in and state your opinion by creating a brand new unnecessary thread? There's a zillion threads with people ranting about the MBA... couldn't you post there? I mean come on, this is getting ridiculous. I might as well go start new threads posting about how the shuffle sucks because it doesn't have a screen, or the mac pro takes too much desk space, or how my coffee is too hot for my tongue.

Everyone has their preferences. Some like macs some like windows. Some like the air some like the macbook. I just don't understand the need to create a zillion threads about this. Don't like the MBA? Don't buy it. No one is forcing you to fork over cash for a laptop. I don't like Saabs.. that's why I will never buy one. What I'll never do is go to a Saab forum and post about my opinion about it. /rant


The Macbook Air is fantastic if you can live within its limitations. That's it. End of thread!

steve31
Feb 19, 2008, 11:32 PM
display and backlit keyboard are a huge reason I chose the MBA over the BLK MB. The display in the MB dose not come close to the LED display in the MBA. I also have a MPB which makes it a easy choice to pick the MBA as my second notebook. For an ultra portable it is VERY powerful and I can do just about anything that I do with my MBP on it. But clearly its not for everyone....it was not made to be an only computer! I dont understand all the bashing about the MBA....is it better Apple has added more product choices to there line up???;)

ctt1wbw
Feb 20, 2008, 03:50 AM
display and backlit keyboard are a huge reason I chose the MBA over the BLK MB. The display in the MB dose not come close to the LED display in the MBA. I also have a MPB which makes it a easy choice to pick the MBA as my second notebook. For an ultra portable it is VERY powerful and I can do just about anything that I do with my MBP on it. But clearly its not for everyone....it was not made to be an only computer! I dont understand all the bashing about the MBA....is it better Apple has added more product choices to there line up???;)


Two of the reasons I bought it as well. Plus the weight issue is a big concern for me, since I have to use a cane to walk, thanks to the Navy ruining my knees.

And as for it being the same size as a Macbook... I think we should sue Apple for that. There's no reason that it can't be half the width with the same size screen, no reason at all. :rolleyes:

mrklaw
Feb 20, 2008, 03:59 AM
what odd comments.

Its not worth the money, yet you'd buy a blackbook which is a perfect example of somethign costing more for no extra functionality?


First, ultraportables are expensive. Can't justify that cost? fine - thats not something you're in the market for.


second, I think there are things on the MBA that increase its value completely aside from the portability aspect - backlit keyboard, LED screen, multitouch gesture touchpad are the big ones. Those things would IMO justify a price bump over eg the blackbook. So its actually pretty good value.

lewisozz
Feb 20, 2008, 04:44 AM
Well, I finally checked out the MBA. I am not that impressed with it. First off it is the same size as the MB, thinner yes, but this the same size. Too be honest I didn't even notice that much of a difference in the weight when I carried it in a bag.

Now for what I liked. Sexy as hell, nice display, actually not that slow, like the trackpad.

It really isn't as advertised as an ultraportable, it is not worth the money, the blackbook (which sat beside it) had the same profile and occupied the same amount of desk space.

I would buy a blackbook any day over this thing. Its not worth the money ..

Just my 2 cents.

The macbook air is a wonderful computer if you cal live with a little less power. The weight and the "thinness" is well worth the loss in a little power and a few ports that are getting old like ethernet. Every heard of wireless ??and a optical drive. Every heard of a little thing called iTunes !!!!

Tosser
Feb 20, 2008, 05:39 AM
[…]you gotta remember the macbook was the ultalight portable of yesteryear.
That is simply contrary to reality. The MacBook was _never_ considered an ultralight by anyone. Not even by a long shot.



you are paying for the "first" and the Design. Its the FIRST VERY thin computer. ( not just thin, there are others) and the design, as apple always does well, allows them to charge what they want.

No, it's the first very thin Apple. Not the first very thin laptop.


What I don't get, is the OP, stating he would buy the BlackBook? The BlackBook? It's a premium priced MacBook – yet another Apple product, where you pay extra for design. And the MB is even worse in this sense, as you pay extra for a different color. Now, if you would have said the MB (full stop), it would have made sense.

strong words, my friend. taking the mba out of the context of its market. we could debate all day about what market the mba is for, but the fact of the matter is that the mb is for mainstream users, whereas the mbp is for the on-the-go professional or for those who simply "want to have it all." a simple google search for "ultraportable" yields notebooks in excess of $2000; not worth the money? in its context, the mba is certainly worth the money. you could argue for the eeepc, which also classifies as an ultraportable.

I wonder if you meant that the MBA is for the on-the-go professional? Because, it's obvious that the MBP is, but since the OP doesn't mention that, you must mean the MBA?

Further, since when is a MBA an ultrportable? It's a light and thin laptop. Nothing more, nothing less. And there's nothing wrong with that at all. It's just not an "ultraportable".

to beat a dead horse, it's all relative. it cost me an extra $600 to have something that puts the lap back in laptop. a macbook (or even the 12" pb) certainly could not step up to that challenge.

So, you're saying that neither the 12 inch PB or the MB is a "laptop"?? You do realise that the MBA has almost the exact same footprint as the MB, and is much bigger than the 12 inch PB, right?
Your statement is simply nonsensical: What makes the MBA more of a "laptop" than the 12" PB? Don't give me weight, as that really shouldn't matter much, when talking about it sitting on your lap.

robrose20
Feb 20, 2008, 06:28 AM
Ill never buy a blackbook any day.

Macbook Air and Macbook Pro 17"

Air is light but since you don't care about weight, why don't you go 17"? Its only 2 pounds more, that like nothing right?

I'm waiting for the MB Aircraft(carrier)... thank you.

lewisozz
Feb 20, 2008, 06:46 AM
Whey will they start shipping ? It cost 700 to ship it !!!

instant hit
Feb 20, 2008, 09:34 AM
I wonder if you meant that the MBA is for the on-the-go professional? Because, it's obvious that the MBP is, but since the OP doesn't mention that, you must mean the MBA?

Further, since when is a MBA an ultrportable? It's a light and thin laptop. Nothing more, nothing less. And there's nothing wrong with that at all. It's just not an "ultraportable".

"professional" was the wrong word choice regarding the mbp; fine, you win that argument. what i meant to argue was the mbp is for on-the-go artists specializing in pro audio, video editing et al.

i'm not going to waste my time trying to reason why the mba is an ultraportable; simply put, you and i have differing definitions as to what constitutes an ultraportable and we'll never arrive at an agreeable conclusion. if you can explain how my ibm x31 is more ultraportable than my mba -- after all, it has a smaller footprint -- i will stop using the ultraportable moniker.

So, you're saying that neither the 12 inch PB or the MB is a "laptop"?? You do realise that the MBA has almost the exact same footprint as the MB, and is much bigger than the 12 inch PB, right?
Your statement is simply nonsensical: What makes the MBA more of a "laptop" than the 12" PB? Don't give me weight, as that really shouldn't matter much, when talking about it sitting on your lap.

selective quoting, i see. taken by itself, that statement is nonsensical. however, had you quoted the entire post you would understand how the mba makes it more of a laptop than the mb or 12" pb -- heat. this is why the term "notebook" has been more widely accepted in defining a portable computer, regardless of form factor.

Tosser
Feb 20, 2008, 10:46 AM
"professional" was the wrong word choice regarding the mbp; fine, you win that argument. what i meant to argue was the mbp is for on-the-go artists specializing in pro audio, video editing et al.

Actually, that wasn't the problem. I was wondering howcome you tossed the MBP in there.



i'm not going to waste my time trying to reason why the mba is an ultraportable; simply put, you and i have differing definitions as to what constitutes an ultraportable and we'll never arrive at an agreeable conclusion.

What a cop out. While we're at it, why not call the PB 12" "pocketable". It's in the same league. "Ultra" is quite a bit more portable than "very portable" or even "super portable".


if you can explain how my ibm x31 is more ultraportable than my mba -- after all, it has a smaller footprint -- i will stop using the ultraportable moniker.
Actually, I don't consider that one an ultrportable either It's borderline "just a small laptop".




selective quoting, i see. taken by itself, that statement is nonsensical. however, had you quoted the entire post you would understand how the mba makes it more of a laptop than the mb or 12" pb -- heat. this is why the term "notebook" has been more widely accepted in defining a portable computer, regardless of form factor.

Selective? That smacks of "twisting words". However, I did no such thing. On the contrary, I even quoted more than necessary
But you're right, so let's take a look:

The entire post from your hand looks like this:
strong words, my friend. taking the mba out of the context of its market. we could debate all day about what market the mba is for, but the fact of the matter is that the mb is for mainstream users, whereas the mbp is for the on-the-go professional or for those who simply "want to have it all." a simple google search for "ultraportable" yields notebooks in excess of $2000; not worth the money? in its context, the mba is certainly worth the money. you could argue for the eeepc, which also classifies as an ultraportable. but show me an ultraportable that doesn't sacrifice the keyboard, that doesn't generate heat in the worst of places, and that doesn't sacrifice productivity; and i'll show you an mba.

to beat a dead horse, it's all relative. it cost me an extra $600 to have something that puts the lap back in laptop. a macbook (or even the 12" pb) certainly could not step up to that challenge.

just my two cents :)

If you notice, there are two paragraphs (well, three, but the last one is just toppings).
In the post of which you accuse me of being "selective" I first responded to your first paragraph, and after that responded to your second.

Further, when someone says "it brings the lap back in the laptop", that surely must mean, that the other's weren't "laptops", that you somehow consider them as "non-laptops". And when questioned as to why that is, you accuse the questioner of being "selective".

Frankly, I think you're intellectual dishonest.

netdog
Feb 20, 2008, 10:59 AM
Well, I finally checked out the MBA. I am not that impressed with it. First off it is the same size as the MB, thinner yes, but this the same size. Too be honest I didn't even notice that much of a difference in the weight when I carried it in a bag.

Now for what I liked. Sexy as hell, nice display, actually not that slow, like the trackpad.

It really isn't as advertised as an ultraportable, it is not worth the money, the blackbook (which sat beside it) had the same profile and occupied the same amount of desk space.

I would buy a blackbook any day over this thing. Its not worth the money ..

Just my 2 cents.

It's not for everyone. Between the MBP, MB and MBA, however, a huge number of people have a choice that really does suit their needs. The MacBook definitely offers some things that the MBA doesn't, and hence will meet some users' needs better. Same can be said for the MacBook Pro versus both the MB and MBA.

diabolic
Feb 20, 2008, 11:05 AM
Sexy as hell, nice display, actually not that slow, like the trackpad.

That's actually pretty positive based on how predisposed you were to hating it based on all your previous posts.

cedar
Feb 20, 2008, 11:20 AM
I think too much is being made of what an MBA is not. I personally think that it is a brilliant strategy of Apple to present a sexy, high visibility product, with lots of slick, appealing advertising, to a market segment who has never looked at Apple products. Sure, it's a small market segment, but it's also an affluent one. Baby-boomers, corporate executives, coffee-shop haunters, it has some appeal to all. And most of all, it gets people into the store where there is a whole array of other products that this market segment might latch onto.

Consultant
Feb 20, 2008, 11:27 AM
Well, I finally checked out the MBA. I am not that impressed with it. First off it is the same size as the MB, thinner yes, but this the same size. Too be honest I didn't even notice that much of a difference in the weight when I carried it in a bag.

Now for what I liked. Sexy as hell, nice display, actually not that slow, like the trackpad.

It really isn't as advertised as an ultraportable, it is not worth the money, the blackbook (which sat beside it) had the same profile and occupied the same amount of desk space.

I would buy a blackbook any day over this thing. Its not worth the money ..

Just my 2 cents.

Well other people liked it, even some who said they will not be getting MBA changed their mind:
http://barefeats.com/macair.html

instant hit
Feb 20, 2008, 12:11 PM
Frankly, I think you're intellectual dishonest.

thanks for the ad hominem. i was hoping for a more productive discussion but based on your posting habits you always want to be right. but i'm not going to play that game. last word.

Tosser
Feb 20, 2008, 12:20 PM
thanks for the ad hominem. i was hoping for a more productive discussion but based on your posting habits you always want to be right. but i'm not going to play that game. last word.

Haha, not only do you whine over a claimed ad hominum, you go on to completely ignoring the rest of the post where your earlier claims were challenged and found to not not hold water water. And after that, you come up with a further unsubstantiated claim, that I always want to be right.

You accuse me of being "selective" in my quoting, insinuating I twist words, and when showed otherwise, you choose to select a single sentence, ignoring any and all arguments in the post, focusing on and whining about one sentence. A sentence which must be the conclusion to someone using strawmen, and denying what was said, while all the while fighting hard in an effort not to be countered on his claims. That to me is indeed intelectual dishonesty.

Besides, I think you should look "ad hominem" up, and after that you should look up "intellectual dishonesty". When stating a behaviour is intellectual dishonest, that can hardly be said to be an AH. I guess you have to act like a victim though –*otherwise you have to use actual arguments.

Life's a bitch, but come now, surely, you can dodge better than that?

-hh
Feb 20, 2008, 01:38 PM
To the OP, to each his own.

For those who need a lightweight capable laptop, the MBA fits the bill. Most business folks that I know carry papers so the MBA is the perfect size footprint wise, and the thinness is nice.

Well said. Once a laptop is roughly 8.5" x 11", it doesn't need to be smaller in these dimensions. To go 'smaller', the key benefits are then its thickness and its weight.


I'm one of those 'business folks' (although stuck with Windows), and I spend a lot of time slogging through airports, trains, etc. I can see clear value in the ability to travel light & fast, although I do have to say that this is not necessarily universally recognized by all consumers.

For example, on my trip (which was just last week; my first one to Europe this year ... I had eight such trips in 2007), I had a coworker with me who is still clueless. Despite this only being a trip for a 2 day meeting, their bag was so weighed down that they couldn't hussle down an empty escalator to save the ~20 seconds needed to be able to catch the train departing from the airport. Thus, we ended up cooling our heels and wasting 20 minutes waiting for the next departure...and even then, nearly missed it AGAIN because their overstuffed rolling bag was so heavy, she couldn't lift it up a foot to get it onto the train's staircase step...it reminded me of the old Daleks joke where the robots are defeated (Dr Who reference...they can't do stairs).

In real world travel, every pound starts to add up in how it slows you down. Consequently, I no longer carry a spare battery pack for my laptop - - so much for the MBA's debates on 'non-user-replacable'. FWIW, for some overnight trips, I won't even pack a set of shoes...I'll have just the ones I'm wearing.


Thus for me, it all comes down to a basic question: when I'm out on the road, what am I willing to sacrifice (do without) for the benefit of being able to get around easier, including sometimes being able to make it home to my family sooner?

I doubt that there is a cut & dry answer, since we're all different with different priorities. But I will say that based on my personal travel experiences, that when you get out there and are moving up and down staircases on mass transit systems ... and with your carry-on bag hooked on your shoulder too ... the weight of stuff becomes quite important, because wheeled bags (and wheeled briefcases) are no longer an asset, but a liability.

The problem is that in the USA, this is very easy to overlook because the classical paradigm of many US businessmen is that they merely need to roll themselves (& their stuff) from the gate out to the rental car bus, where they'll pour themselves into a rental car and toss the bag into the trunk. As such, it is very easy to "load up" on extraneous junk (that rarely gets used) and not have to worry the reprocussions. These individuals often get a very rude awakening on their first trip where there's no rental car. Some learn ... and some never learn.

For me, I travel light. I've done 2 weeks on the road out of one carry-on bag, with a messenger bag for the laptop & paper files. Over the years, I know that this approach has saved me hundreds and hundreds of hours; the most recent example being this past September, where I was able to recover from a flight delay to hop an alternate flight with <5 minutes to spare, whereas if I hadn't, instead of arriving home 3 hours late, I would have been stuck overseas for an extra 2-3 DAYS until there would have been room on another homeward bound flight.


-hh